Hi All,

Below is my report on the 1999 Chemotherapy of AIDS Conference that I

attended last week.

Best,

Dave

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Chemotherapy of AIDS Conference

March 14-18, 1999

This year 105 people attended the 1999 Chemotherapy of AIDS Conference,

with 40% coming from industry. Compared to the 1997 conference, this one

was more subdued.

In 1997, virtually every presenter of new nucleoside analog inhibitors of

reverse transcriptase characterized the compounds as DNA-chain terminators.

This year not a single presenter mentioned the phrase DNA-chain

terminators. Experimental controls were as absent as they were two years

ago.

From my perspective the 4.5 day conference was largely a protracted yawn.

However, William Cameron's talk Thursday morning made the entire trip worth

while.

Cameron is on the faculty of the University of Ottawa. He is clearly an

expert in designing and evaluating clinical trials. He told me that he

consults for Canada's FDA.

While it was evident that Cameron fully accepts the HIV hypothesis of AIDS,

nevertheless, he completely demolished the viral load surrogate marker as a

substitute for morbidity and mortality end points in clinical trials. He

said that people don't die of HIV viremia. He also stressed that viral load

is ASSUMED to reflect quantitative effects. There was no basis for this

assumption. I should point out that over the previous four days virtually

every talk and poster (excluding mine of course) relied exclusively on

viral load measurements to determine the effectiveness or failure of

anti-HIV drug therapies.

Cameron illustrated with specific examples how easy it is to "engineer" a

desired outcome in clinical trials using viral load surrogate endpoints. In

order to guarantee a therapeutic effect one needs only to recruit

relatively healthy patients and observe them only for a short period of

time. This method works even for drugs that have no therapeutic benefit and

are actually harmful to the patients. The explanation he gave (I couldn't

have said it better myself) was that healthy people tolerate toxic drugs

better than sick people.

He gave as a specific example the DDI clinical trial disaster. Over a short

12-week study, DDI showed efficacy based on viral load. But after 12 weeks,

patients on DDI experienced severe toxicity. Robert Yarchoan of the

National Cancer Institute had discussed the severe toxicity of DDI just

before Cameron's talk, which only emphasized the point.

Cameron also showed that the placebo arm of a surrogate marker clinical

trial can also show a pronounced clinical benefit, indistinguishable from

drug therapy, if only the studies were allowed to go longer. The end result

is that there would be no difference between drug and placebo as long as

the drug was not toxic.

It should be pointed out that to date all protease inhibitor clinical

trials were terminated prematurely before it could be determined that

people taking the drugs actually lived longer and better lives than those

not taking the drugs.

Cameron suggested that any therapeutic benefits due to the HIV protease

inhibitors may result from their anti-microbial activities since many

pathogens have essential aspartyl proteases. (HIV protease inhibitors

inhibit other aspartyl proteases.) However, he told me later that the

people he'd seen on HAART looked like hell. They were wasting away to

nothing among other problems. He was clearly not impressed with the drugs.

I was sitting at the back of the room during Cameron's talk. I had a good

view of how he was being received. A number of people were noticeably

uncomfortable, for example Martin Markowitz of David Ho's Aaron Diamond

AIDS Research Center. About halfway through Cameron's talk, Markowitz

grabbed a newspaper, turned toward the wall and pretended to read it.

Cameron lecture received only short, polite applause. It was the only time

I applauded the whole week.

On to other topics. By and large the week was pretty boring. Nevertheless,

there were a few scraps of information that some may find useful.

On Sunday, Angela McLean of the UK defined what is meant by acute HIV

infection or acute illness. A person is acutely ill with HIV if he or she

has a detectable viral load, i.e. the presence of HIV RNA, and does not

have antibodies to HIV as determined by the ELISA antibody test.

This definition, of course, does not take into consideration those people

who are false positive for the viral load and antibody tests or people who

go back and forth.

McLean said that at the peak of acute illness with HIV that 6 new cells are

infected with HIV by each previous HIV infected cell. (Peter Duesberg told

me that in the laboratory one retroviral-infected cell will produce enough

virions to infect 100 new cells.) She said that cytotoxic lymphocytes (CTL)

kill wild-type HIV-infected cells in about 2 days. She went on to speculate

that CTLs do not kill mutant HIV-infected cells, implying that this was the

reason for the drug failures. McLean admitted during questioning that no

other infectious agent had been put through her analysis. That means there

is no way to judge the physiological significance of McLean's studies.

McLean made the curious statement that the better the anti-HIV drugs work,

the more likely they will fail. Figure that one out. After a week of this

stuff I think I know what she was getting at. Shortly after a person begins

taking anti-HIV drugs his viral load drops. The greater the drop, the

greater the supposed therapeutic effect. However, virtually everyone on the

cocktails eventually shows a rise in viral load. This rise in viral load

was interpreted by most at the meeting to reflect drug failure. However,

there were a number of attendees who pointed out that a rise in viral load

did not mean those patients were experiencing a increase in clinical

symptoms.

Brendan Larder of Virco UK Limited began Monday's session on anti-HIV drug

resistance. There are now 5 HIV protease inhibitors available. The

ubiquitous viral load is the work horse of anti-HIV research and therapy. A

rise in viral load in people taking the anti-HIV drugs is interpreted as

drug failure due the appearance of drug resistant mutants. However,

responding to a questioner, Larder stated that the presence or absence of

mutations have nothing to do with "viral load resistance" seen in people.

This was echoed Tuesday by Philip Furman of Triangle Pharmaceuticals in

Durham, NC. Furman said that even a person with multiple inhibitor

resistant mutant HIVs responds to the protease inhibitor combos as

determined by a reduction in viral load in the first week. Furman did not

explain this curious observation.

Later that morning, Jaap Goudsmit of Holland continued the drug resistance

story. He began by contradicting the media reports that drug resistant

mutant strains of HIV represent a growing threat. Goudsmit said that

inhibitor resistant mutants are not transmitted from person to person. This

was due to the very poor fitness of the mutant virions. In Holland, the

appearance of mutant HIV resistant to reverse transcriptase inhibitors

peaked in 1995, he said.

Goudsmit made the obvious point that with antibiotics, the appearance of

drug resistant strains of bacteria, for example, increase with drug use. It

puzzled him that with increased drug use the appearance of drug resistant

mutants of HIV actually declined in Holland.

On Tuesday I had an interesting conversation with Che-Chung Tsai, a

pathologist at the University of Washington, Seattle. I learned that

T-cells pass through the entire lymph system, including all tissues, in 2

hours. At least 85% of T-cells reside in the gut. Because of this, he asks:

why doesn't AIDS start in the gut?

Dr. Tsai works with monkeys in his AIDS research. He said that HIV grows

2-3 times as fast in monkey lymphocytes but monkeys don't get AIDS and do

not incorporate HIV pro-viral DNA.

At the evening session on Tuesday the speakers tried to blame the metabolic

abnormalities seen in people taking the protease inhibitor combos on HIV. I

asked Kathleen Mulligan of UCSF why not treat a bunch of animals with HAART

(PI combos) and see what happens? The moderator interrupted saying that my

suggestion was irrelevant since the animals don't have HIV. That, of

course, was precisely the point: to separate the effects of the drugs from

HIV. Later a fellow in the audience told me that he was disappointed that

my question was not answered. He clearly saw the simple logic behind the

proposed experiment.

On Saint Patrick's Day our old friend Martin Markowitz of the Aaron Diamond

reported on their on-going study of 27 people still on HAART. As in 1997,

Markowitz didn't say a word about how those 27 people had been doing over

the past 2 years on the drugs. Two years ago I asked Markowitz if his

patients on HAART were doing better, the same, or worse while on the drugs.

He didn't answer after asking the question three times. He knew I was in

the audience, but this time I decided not to ask. If his patients had been

doing well I'm sure he would have let us all know, especially me.

Wednesday included a discussion of long-term non-progressors: those folks

who in spite of having either antibodies to HIV or HIV-RNA do not get sick

after 20 years and longer. Eric Rosenberg of Massachusetts General Hospital

said that viral load goes up and down in people whether they take the

anti-HIV drugs or not. In people taking the drugs, the therapy is given

credit for the reduction in viral load. In long-term non-progressors, the

immune system is given the credit for low viral loads or reductions in

viral load. Again, Rosenberg admitted without knowing it that the secret to

long-term non-progression is not taking the anti-HIV drugs.

Thursday, Anthony Japour of Abbott Laboratories cited the 1998 paper by

Palella et al. [Palella FJ, Delaney KM, Moorman AC, et al. Declining

morbidity and mortality among patients with advanced human immunodeficiency

virus infection. The New England Journal of Medicine (1998) 338(13):

853-860] as the best evidence that HAART was responsible for the decline in

AIDS deaths. After his talk I pointed out that the paper by Palella was not

a report of a clinical trial but was a retrospective survey. He

acknowledged that fact. Then I asked him didn't he think it unusual that he

used a survey and not a clinical trial as the best evidence that HAART was

extending people's lives or at least improving their quality of life? To

his credit, after the coffee break he acknowledged to the audience that his

earlier reference had been to a survey and not to clinical trial data.

Japour made it clear that clinical endpoints are no longer used in clinical

trials of anti-HIV drugs. The viral load surrogate is the sole basis for

determining clinical efficacy. Drug toxicity is apparently the only

clinical outcome that is noted. Current Phase III clinical trials are not

even blinded; they are open labeled. Both the physician and the patient

know whether they are on the drugs.

Robert Yarchoan of the NCI admitted that HAART has made the process of

clinical trial drug evaluations very difficult. He recommends that we go

back to extensive clinical trials of mono-therapy in drug naive people. The

current process is so complicated that it is virtually impossible to

conduct a clinical trial and interpret the results. In other words, we

don't know what the clinical trials are telling us. The FDA representative

in the audience said that the FDA supports mono-therapy on a case by case

basis.

In addition to relating the fiasco of the DDI clinical trials discussed

above, Yarchoan went into some detail about another tragedy: FIAU. FIAU was

supposed to treat hepatitis B and was approved after a short clinical

trial. However, after people were taking FIAU for periods just a little

longer than the clinical trials, they began dying at alarming rates before

the FDA finally pulled the drug off the market.

Yarchoan admits that the NCI is currently testing AIDS drugs that are

"likely to have severe toxicity," e.g. F-ddA.

Jeffrey Murray of the FDA gave a talk on the design of Phase III clinical

trials. By way of background, normal phase III clinical trials run from 1-4

years and cost $30-50 million. However, as of 1997, the FDA changed the

rules for anti-HIV drug clinical trials. Murray said this change was based

on a new knowledge of HIV pathogenesis. Maybe he was referring to David

Ho's viral dynamics stuff.

Accelerated Approval Protocol is as follows:

24 week double-blind study; all patient should receive standard of care (he

immediately then said this changes by the minute); report viral load

proportion below assay limit; show that CD4 cell changes are consistent

with viral load; report viral load vs proportion below 400. He said that

relying on mean changes in viral load is too limiting.

Pediatric clinical trial:

48 weeks based on last patient entered; all should receive standard of care

(i.e. AZT); report time to virologic failure (i.e. rise in viral load);

report proportion below assay limit; show consistency between CD4 and

clinical event.

Murray acknowledged that the FDA has not formally validated the HIV viral

load assay. Nevertheless, he said that, "the time to loss of virologic

response (i.e. how long it takes before a rise in viral load) is in a sense

a clinical endpoint." He even said that "the FDA believes in viral load."

That statement gave me the shivers. The FDA should be in the business of

evaluating evidence--not beliefs.

Murray said that failure is defined as viral load rebound. He also said

that "active drugs do not arrest symptom progression and certainly does not

return the patient to normal." This is probably why Martin Markowitz never

talks about how well his 27 patients are doing after 2 years on HAART.

Regarding safety, Murray said that toxicity studies in humans should last

48 weeks with 300-600 people evaluated over 6 months and a smaller number

over 1 year.

The FDA now asks for metabolism data for all trials. Jules Levin of NATAP

(a gay activist group in New York) told Murray that the "Community" will be

watching for the FDA to require metabolic abnormality measurements in

clinical trials.

During the question period a guy in the audience proposed that the rise in

viral load may not represent drug failure but actually immunological

success. He based this twist of viral load interpretation on the rise in

CD4 cells is the same patients.

Following Murrary's talk, William Cameron tore to pieces the viral load

mania as I described at the beginning.

David Ho's talk was Thursday evening, following the banquet. It was much

ado about very little. He reported on 8 selected patients who had been on

HAART for some time and had no detectable viral load. They took biopsies

from a variety of tissues and examined 175 different tissue sections for

the presence of replicating HIV. They found 13 sections containing at grand

total of 19 cells replicating HIV. I repeat: 19 cells in 8 people. Even if

this were true and not an artifact, this number of cells is physiologically

irrelevant. A guy in the audience asked Ho how significant were those 19

cells? Ho answered that when HAART was stopped that the viral load

rebounded, implying that those few cells were responsible for the rebound.

Concluding, Ho said that "long-term non-progressors have something

important to tell us." They certainly do but not what he wants to hear.

Finally, I presented a poster on Tuesday by Peter Duesberg and me on the

Drugs-AIDS Hypothesis. Surprisingly, it went quite well. The 18 copies of

the AIDS Dilemma paper by Duesberg and me were all taken during the poster

session. I only took 18 because I thought hardly anyone there would want to

be seen reading it. The 20 copies of my HIV kinetics paper were all gone in

30 min. That paper was certainly less threatening and could actually be of

use to some of those folks. Some people even came up and asked questions.

What amazed me the most was that instead of avoiding me at meal times (we

all eat together at Gordon conferences) my table was almost always full

even though I made a point of being the first to sit down. It just goes to

show that things are hard to predict.

David Rasnick

1600 B Treat Ave. #2

San Francisco, CA 94110

415-826-1241 (phone/fax)

rasnick@mindspring.com