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_______INDIA1NZ______ |
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I am using my husbands trader name to inform the MB
community that as of reasons unknown,under my user name
'india1nz', I am no longer able to post on the message board.
When I try to it caomes up saying 'Sorry, you are unable to
post on the message board'....I am at a loss as to why this is
the case but will be ringing Trade Me in the morning to find
out as I had NO email to inform me of their
enforcement.
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seems that the new
rules |
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are kicking in and geez if I thought all that moderator
hooha sucked then I would hate to think what this new plan is
going to be like...
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oh thats so sucks Indy
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what new rules are you referring to grannypam? Have I
missed something? Let us know Indy if you get an answer, cheer
up :)
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the new rules are: |
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There are no more moderators. BUT, if enough complaints
are made about one trader they will no longer be able o post
on the mb. Did the mods all put in for my disablement on the
mb before being relieved of their status? At this stage, who
knows.
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omg when did these changes take
place? |
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So now we cant express our opinions in case someone takes
offence and complains about us? Hmmmm that stinks as well, IMO
Did they announce these new changes?
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no as yet.... |
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I got an email from them about the new changes when I
complained about my threads being removed. About a week
ago...they said they would inform everyone when they were put
into effect...(india1nz)
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so if they not in effect
yet |
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how come you are being singled out?
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| 8. |
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WHAT |
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so that means that certain traders who have a gruge
against another trader can get you riled up on the message
board then get all there little friends to vote you off. and
before you know it your gone. Great, looks like it goes from
back to worse.
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I have no idea |
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I just went to post and it came up with that message. And,
I have not sworn, abused anyone, advertised anything etc, I am
really at a loss as to why this has been done. I will find out
tommorrow though.
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whats the bet |
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that there are a few more out there that are having the
same problems but have no way of telling us...
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lyndav |
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thats exactly what will happen.
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| 12. |
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I was thinking the same thing
gp |
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and hubbys name will probaly be disabled tommorrow because
I used it to tell everyone on the mb.
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| 13. |
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Well India I guess |
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ill be joining you soon then. Hope you get it sorted out.
This is getting rediculous.
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So if I decide I don't like
grannypam |
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all I have to do is make up heaps of trader names and
complain about her until trademe disable her ability to post
on the message board. That just goes beyond belief.
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coolnzmum |
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yes, simple as that...apparently anyway. Obvioulsy this
function is not in use by the mb YET, so who else would have
that ability? Moderators or admin...although I see no reason
for admin to disable my mb facility - at all, and without
explanation I might add.
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is there |
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still moderators in action on this board?
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| 17. |
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OMG India |
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Help this is sorted real soon!
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Thanks sojo |
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and everyone else that has posted on this thread...I hope
to get it sorted in the morning.
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India This is
disgusting |
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I can gaurantee you I did NOT complain about you Hell if
this is the situation now then it's only a matter of time
before it's gone completely.I guess my days are numbered as
well. But there are a lot of traders that enjoy and agree with
your posts I for one agree with most of your postings... There
are way worse traders than you out there so I don't understand
this at all. It will be interesting to see this sorted.Being
waitangi day and public holiday tomorrow I doubt they will be
there but good luck I will be keeping my fingers crossed for
you. This is really out of control now..
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Thanks pow |
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And your right, this was done knowing the long week-end
was upon us. I will be interested to find out WHY and by WHOM.
I have read posts on here that are far more offensive and
attacking of others then any of mine have been.
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say what? |
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well india1nz, although you're not afraid to express
youself, I for one have never felt inclined to vote for any of
your posts to be removed. I might disagree with you from time
to time but if we all thought the same way then words like
debate, contradict, argue etc. would not even be part of the
language. Just when I thought everything was slowly getting
back to normal...
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| 22. |
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Well said soodanim |
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So do we know if this was a moderator thing or t.m
themselves that have done this as has been asked do we still
have mods? This is just amazing.
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| 23. |
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Thanks soodanim |
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(india1nz)
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| 24. |
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I may not |
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agree with some on here either but I sure as heck wouldnt
vote them off. I go away for a couple of days and everything
changes. India are you still alowed to go into the cafe, or
run auctions at all.? I dinno but I truely think it wont be
long before the whole message board will disappear
completly.
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| 25. |
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Yes |
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I can still go in the cafe (not that I ever did) and I can
still run auctions, well I think I can, I have a couple on the
go now but have not tried listing since all this.
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new rules.... |
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wonder why these came in then. Oh yeah its because
everyone was bitching about the moderators - and now its got
worse. Well lets keep on bitching, then perhaps the MB will
dissapear altogether. Sorry you got caught up in the new rules
though India, didn't always agree with your posts but thats no
reason to lose your right to post.
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Has anyone heard anything
about |
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traderpoint.co.nz? has anyone had any dealings with this
site/company?
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LOL |
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Now THAT will get U tossed off :-)
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| 29. |
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nope |
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must have a looksie 1 day ............this is just
DOWNRIGHT stupid ...what have thay disabled you from posting
on the message board......OMG!!!!!!!!
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like being back |
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at school......
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why would that get me 'tossed
off'? |
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Others talk about ebay etc? geez, what IS this?
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| 32. |
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um er ,maybe kindy
then!!! |
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lmao
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wow |
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no warning nothing India.?
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India |
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I saw a thread the other day with a member mentioning that
site. Can't remember who it was or what exactly it was
about....but I remember a poster/s saying it was a no no to
even mention it, I have no idea why either.
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hmmm |
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now I can't say I always agreed with your threads india
but this is just plain weird! Can't wait to hear their
explaination!
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no, no warning
baylee12 |
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and the only reason I asked about that was someone
messaged me before about it...and like others have done with
ebay...thought I'd see what others thoughts were on the site -
that's all. How about you all tell me, what I can discuss on
here?
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um er ok....... |
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fetishes......bed wetting .......whacko jacko...,,... list
goes on......lol
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kat2nz |
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Of course we all don't agree with each others
threads/opinions BUT is that any reason for me to be unable to
post? I HAVE NOT sworn, abused others, advertised auctions,
etc. What I have done is state my opinion regarding the fact
that numerous threads of mine were removed by moderators (that
broke no rules what-so-ever)...someone p l e a s e tell me
what was wrong with that? I stepped on the wrong toes -
obviously.
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or |
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you could even pretend to be a .......wait for
it!............cat.....no offence...
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yes I suppose that might
work... |
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...but then again, the cats get pretty 'hot' in the
jacuzzi! lol
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read the bottom of the page when U
post |
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"Advertising - You may NOT advertise any auction, product,
or service." It's called "the competition"
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Hey india |
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When was the last time you posted on your name? Just
wondering because the last time I can remember that we
actually spoke to each other was in the (((hello))) thread,
remember? Had you posted since then? Grasping at straws here
lol.... this does seem so strange and extreme.
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RE No 27 |
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It is not an auction site. Click on what you are
interested in and it gives you the e mail address and the
phone number of the seller. Then you make contact and do your
business that way. Dont know who gets paid the commission, or
if this any.
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Is it? |
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another auction site then? ok...got ya! Thanks for that
morticia.
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sojo |
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yep, that would be it! lol. But re-read it and see what
you can find - I have and found nothing wrong in it!! ( I
don't think!!)....and thanks daisygirl, I did not think it was
another auction site either.
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I menshioned traderpoint the other
day |
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and it was in my GRrrrrrrrrrr thread when the outage
happened. Nigel posted in that thread after I menshioned it
and well heck he runs the site and he didn't say it was a
no-no. All I said was that I had gotten the chance to check it
out seeing as TM had that big outtage and it's not really my
cup of tea. I like the thrill of auctions, it's more like a
T&E online.
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| 47. |
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... |
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I'm with the others, you not being able to post does suck.
But in saying that I also think it could work as it's quite a
good way of keeping ppl inline. Some of the more abusive
posters will have to hold their tounges or god forbid use
their brains and think of a diffrent way to get their points
accross. I don't think you could get ya mates to make up new
ID's and complain, well ya could but i don't think admin would
be so blind as to not see what was happening. I don't think it
should have happened to you though Indi, you were mearly
starting your opinion and venting your fustrations.
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| 48. |
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yup |
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Like I said india I didn't know much if anything regarding
that site/name that daisy mentioned or the related thread
either. Anyways not sure about the 'hello' thread... it just
came to me that one minute we were talking and next minute
this. I was just wondering if that particular thread was in
fact your last port of call so to speak.(lol) May just be pure
coincidence and have nothing to do with whats happened here.
It seems only TM can tell you that india. I'm going to call it
a night now so best of luck sorting this out and best wishes
:-)
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Thanks sojo |
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I have posted in other threads after that one though...who
knows. Good night to you too...
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that site mentioned
previously |
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isn't an auction site, true... but TM isn't solely an
auction site either :-) and it is part of the biggie
classified site. lol so, if I mention another, "sell on line",
will I get booted off too? I am sure you can figure out the
URL from that :-)
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morticia |
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I never mentioned a 'sell on line' site before I was
'booted' off the mb. Were you around and did you see any of my
threads? Because you obviously don't know what you are talking
about.
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A sad situation
indeed |
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India1nz & I am sorry you are the first casualty of
the new rules/changes. I never saw any postings of yours that
justified the removal of your privilege to post on the MB. It
is also interesting to note that there are other members who
don’t trade on this site & probably never intend to, whose
postings have been more contentious are still able to
continue. At least you are a genuinely use this site as a
trader.
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thanks gamefisher |
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Hopefully, I can get this sorted asap and a reason given
as to why...
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This is Crap |
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pure and simple.
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sonya2 |
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where ya been, i thought ya wanted to get to the truth,
with da scruffy, he has been waiting for ya in the chat room,
are ya hiding from him, or is it ya just dont want to admit ya
wrong :)....
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India1nz |
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I sure hope you get this sorted out also.All the
best..Di
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oh and |
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sowwy to hear about your probs India1nz, best of luck
sorting it out..:)
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| 58. |
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Thanks Sonja &
Di |
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Hopefully.....
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pls excuse me as this is off
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but India can you tell me if babysitter books are too
young for a (sweet) 14yr old? I think she has read some last
year
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they would be fine for a 14 year
old Di... |
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My 10 year old has just finished them! - She loved them,
those and Harry Potter and anything to do with horses!!
lol
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off topic but.... |
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my 10 and 11 year olds have read them all...they liked
them.
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thanks ladies |
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she does read lots and lots of books but I was thinking
those easy read ones are like a *desert*, sweet and soft after
all the hard school reading.
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lol - your welcome
Di |
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I'm sure she would enjoy them!
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| 64. |
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Despicable |
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The TradeMe error message notifying india1nz of the
arbitrary removal of her right to free speech, and the banning
of her contributions to the TradeMe community can be viewed
from the TrustWeb Resources Twilight Zone page. I just hope
admin are open to reason in this matter, and that they haven't
gone down the path of over-reaction.
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| 65. |
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It doesn't seem
fair |
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that india was kicked off. I enjoy posting my views and
reading others. When you are alone for nearly 14 hours a day
MB is a great way of communicating with others.
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| 66. |
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well I hate the constant
bitching |
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about moderators, drives me nuts but I dont think that
should allow TM to disable india1nz. As has been pointed out,
none of the posts were defamatory or rude, no swearing etc.
The only reason I would think they may have done it was the
numerous times that india1nz made threads about Mods etc. One
was pulled, another started. Perhaps they thought you were
annoying? I found it annoying but I didnt reply as I didnt
want to be hammered for my opinion. I dont feel tho it
justifies you being banned from posting. What happened to
"Freedom Of Speech"? India1nz, I hope it all gets sorted
quickly and you can post again. As for me, I post on funnies
and ones I can help with now. I cant be bothered being ignored
in the rest! LOL.
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fair enough talka, |
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and thanks for posting.
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| 68. |
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Sorry to see this happen
India1nz |
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I certainly wouldn't have thought of your behaviour as
anything but persistant. I've never seen you being abusive or
using obscene language - and those are the only two things
that ever upset me. I hope this is resolved - and that as
someone can be complained about enough to be barred from the
MB, that they can also be reinstated by votes of confidence as
well.
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| 69. |
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Thanks kirinesha |
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Maybe they are using this as an example of what will
happen to others that have an opinion? lol...That's how it
feels at this end anyway...
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| 70. |
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morning india,.. |
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or should that be mourning,..sorry about whats
happened,..its the "Trademe way",..congrats on making jjbcs
site,..
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My partner has allowed
me |
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to use her nick to report that I, also, have been advised
that I'm not allowed to use the MB. No email, no warning -
just given the message when I went to write a post. Have sent
an email to TM for an explanation. Although not as lily-white
& pure as india1nz has been [in her postings &
trading, I mean ;-)] I thought my MB behaviour had improved
outta sight. Obviously TM don't think so. Am wondering, as so
many others will, once they've read this thread, how long they
will have the privilege. The irony is that I'm still allowed
to trade. No further comment in case my partner is also
disabled. crackerjack
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*crackerjack* - you
too?? |
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well, I wonder how many others? But, I have to agree with
you - none of my posts were as extreme as yours cj!!! lol -
The only one I can think of was the night all my threads
disappeared and I started naming mods (other mb users had
already done this - that's how I knew who they were!!)...and
that did not last long as they were all pulled within secs
(and yes as they should have been - the ones naming mods I
mean - I agree) but that is the only time I have 'overstepped
the mark' so-to speak.
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well |
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you cant say that this is surprising-as it was the logical
next step for little people with little brains who fervently
believe that they are contributing to the better good of
society. Perhaps if more people were proactive when this
censorship raised its ugly head-the power would not have been
transferred to the zealots and bigots that are now
commandeering your freedoms.
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The thing that gets me is
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I have just had a browse around current threads (top 100)
and there are so many here where people are personaly
attacking each other, using 'foul' language, starting
'debatable' subjects etc, as far as I'm concerned alot worse
then I ever posted - and I'm disabled from the mb? You've
gotta admit - this is too harsh - and there was no need for it
what-so-ever. And the funny thing is (not) that I was speaking
out about the non-consistant mods in the hope that other users
threads/posts would not meet the same fate as mine. Ironic
really. To all those that have posted here and have shown
their support - I appreciate it and thank-you. And to every MB
user out there - just remember - YOU could be next.
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| 75. |
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TM please
reconsider |
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Your chucking off the life of this message board. They may
be contentious and perhaps CJ shouldn't have ripped into the
moderators quite so much. As much as we hate each other and
post abuse and tirades we are enjoying ourselves.
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Re: #36-37...Things you CAN
discuss, continued. |
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Don't forget toilet paper and how you use it, and the more
detailed and graphic the description the better!.
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| 77. |
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Hey, come on TT. |
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I don't hate anyone on the MB & I enjoy your "lateral
thinking". [You been reading that Maltese?] Can't say I even
hate dubbya - just his policies. As for being the life of the
MB - please, please, we are a community in which all
contribute in their own way.
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rsm, I'd like to entirely agree
with |
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you but am not as brave in the face of adversity. Am going
to duck for cover until such time as my posting privileges are
restored. Hell, they may never be. If you also get disabled
maybe we should consider a rendezvous now? crackerjack
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hang in there |
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india1nz, this new ruling of theirs can only blow up in
their face, all it's going to do is make people register 2,3,
4 or more times then it will get out of hand as if you dislike
something you swear, moan and groan, get locked out - so what,
start another user name. maybe we all should start using
seperate usernames for auctions and MB. good luck
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Well, if I sit on the fence long
enough, |
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I shall probably get a paling up my, er, you know... but
anyway - if it's my house, I can choose whether people smoke
in it. If it's my house, I can choose what people come into
it. If it's my message board, I can choose who can post to it.
Having said that, I don't actually see why it has occurred to
these 2 users in particular, at this particular time, and I
have yet to read any posts from Admin advising the boards in
general that this is likely to occur if you are bad lil
posters :-)
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| 81. |
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This is bad...... |
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I enjoyed Crackerjacks and India's comments, i hope this
does get fixed.
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| 82. |
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testing...
testing... |
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hmmm can I still post?
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| 83. |
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chin up CJ |
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I am quite sure that sanity will prevail-as it was the
threat of the law that bought this about in first instance and
I am quite sure that your rights will again be reinstated once
TM has sought an legal opinion-as they are most definitely
breaking your BOR under the legal statute- plus I am sure that
it would not be difficult to prove harrasment/persecution as
it would seem they are consistently selective.
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| 84. |
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Geees CJ too |
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I had a bit of run in with him pointing out the need not
to be personal in his posting & indeed greatly improved
the way he posted & since enjoyed his debates. It seems to
me that those that were most outspoken against having
moderators are the first casualties of these draconian rules.
I wait with bated breath to see if I become one.
Unreal!.
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| 85. |
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let's face it
though...... |
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we are all individuals with different views/personalities,
of course we will not always see eye to eye, but is that any
reason to remove someones ability to post on the public MB? As
far as I am concerned that is discrimination. I, crackerjack
and no doubt others have been singled out and made examples
of. Fair enough when there are MB users that are obviously
abusing the system all the time by breaking the 'rules'
continualy. There was not even a warning email to say we were
out of line in a thread/post and what post/thread they were
refering to. There seems to be a hell of a lot of accusations
and insinuations on this message board - but no PROOF to back
it up. I went into the cafe last night and an ex-mod in there
starting accusing me of abusing people in my threads?? -
anyone that read my threads (and there are alot of you out
there) know damn well I NEVER abused anyone. As I said, alot
of finger pointing with NO evidence behind it...
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| 86. |
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Now we really DO need an
alternative |
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auction site. This might only be a message board but once
you get totally annoyed with the actions of management and
mods on this board, you can easily get fed up with the whole
deal, trading and etc. I cpuld easily set up an alternative
message board site exactly like this one but that's not what's
wanted. It's the ability to be able to text chat with people
you have or might trade with now or in the future. Oh well, I
have got back to regular reading and some posting on here but
If this is how TM treat non violent MB participants it's not
worth belonging.
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| 87. |
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your right Di |
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this mb was great for keeping those communication channels
open for past, present and future trades. Such a shame it has
come to this. What were those awards this site won? What were
the names of the net magazines? Net Guide was one...
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| 88. |
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IF ONLY TM |
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put as much effort into enforcing their "your bid is a
legal binding contract" as they have done in policing the MB
the auction site would be a better place.good luck india1nz
hope to see you back on here soon.
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| 89. |
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Well said,.. |
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aussieo,..
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| 90. |
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Imagine how you would
feel? |
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Not being able to post under your own user name? I really
do feel like I am breaking a 'rule' now!! lol ((HELP))....I'm
an outcast...I want a trial, with a judge and a jury of my
peers!! (fellow MB users)....don't kill india1nz on the
mb!!....*sob*... *wahhhhhhhhh*...sorry just going a little
crazy here...
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| 91. |
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well so far |
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I am still able to post and I have said way worse than
india. Hope you get it sorted as this kinda things give you a
gut wrenching feeling.
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| 92. |
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me too |
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but I am feeling very insecure...like I am waiting for the
guillotine to drop..a damn awful feeling wondering every time
I push that button whether its gonna be the one that see me
off......
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| 93. |
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This is what I got when I tried to
post: |
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Ooops! Sorry, you are not allowed to use the messageboard
Please press the 'back' button and check your entry. Thanks.
If the problem you have encountered just won't go away and has
you stumped, please have a look in our online help or, failing
that contact us for assistance.
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| 94. |
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ooops! - now that is what I say to my children over 'spilt
milk', Not allowed - another thing I say to my children on a
daily basis!, Stumped - yeah, well I am definately
that!!!
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| 95. |
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india1nz, there's a
possibility |
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that the Human Rights Commission may give a ruling on what
has happened to us. Before even approaching them, I'll wait
for TM's reply to my email. Perish the thought of a class
action because I dislike the being involved in suits.
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| 96. |
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Right beside you
cj |
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my user name on here @ yahoo.
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| 97. |
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my REAL user name
... |
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| 98. |
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India1nz, thx for
that. |
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Strange that we seem to be the only ones singled out for
this "special" treatment. I'm awaiting TM's reply before any
other action. But....if it's unsatisfactory my hackles will
immediately rise lol.
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| 99. |
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yes, I agree |
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I will be speaking to someone though - I have already
emailed - but will ring as well (Holiday today!!)...I think
more of a personal one-on-one discussion is needed rather than
through an im-personal email - or an 'automated'
email!
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| 100. |
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oh ok - I'll do
it! |
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bumpity |
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bump!!!!!
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Your case for persecution and
discrimination |
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looks stronger and stronger with each passing minute at
the moment, india1nz - "straining out a gnat and swallowing a
camel" could describe the treatment you have received in light
of recent posts by others...
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finished reading this thread, totally amazing - Best of
luck to you both :O)
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To india and CJ |
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I was going to stay out of this issue, not because I feel
whats has happened is right, just for sanities sake.I was
staying away so the baggage that lurks beneath the muddy
waters wouldnt try and turn this into another scrapping
venue.However much I dislike or disagree or agree as the case
may be from time to time with either of your opinions on the
TM mb I still feel like alot of the other posters before me
that this is very unjust treatment.Good luck to getting it
sorted post mortem.
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