This was done on September 15, 2002 during Skatefest, though we were outside in the rain. Trevor sings.

Josh: You’re actually from Boston and around Boston.

Trevor: Yeah, I’m from Wakefield.

Josh: Do you think it’s weird that a lot of this hardcore and metal is coming out of Boston still?

Trevor: I think it’s a really strong scene. There’s a lot of bands that play, and gives more influence to bands. I grew up listening to Overcast, and just so many great bands came from this area. Shadows Fall is from here now. It’s just definitely a really good scene.

Josh: I don’t want to sound like I’m dissing bands because I like a lot of these bands, but a lot of what you find in hardcore these days, and just the whole kind of genre, is they just seem to put a whole lot of melody into it, where they have breakdowns. True, I listen to that, I’m not bad mouthing it, but you’re actually a band that’s not doing that. Is it weird now that it seems to be kind of the way bands are going?

Trevor: I think at first, it was kind of like, the thing to do. Like, it would be a popular thing and then that would be the end of it. But now there’s so many bands that do it. I think it’s influencing what other bands are doing, what they hear from bands that are popular. That’s what they hear. Kids who are starting bands aren’t going to hear older bands. But, if they like doing it, then that’s their thing. I sing in one song. Nothing wrong with singing in one song, you just shouldn’t overdo it.

Josh: It just seems to be against the norm right now, to find some just straight out hardcore and metal.

Trevor: Kickin’ ass you mean?

Josh: Yeah.

Trevor: I miss bands like that. The one song I actually sing in, it’s a real heavy song. That’s why I put it in there. There’s one part that’s melodic, so I figured why not sing in there. But it’s not going to be an emo song, because it’s too heavy around it. I like stuff that just kicks ass, that makes you go crazy. That’s what makes it fun. I don’t like kids crying at our shows. I want them to have fun and mosh.

Josh: What do you think of your stance right now where people seem to be putting you up in a place right now with Poison the Well and Shai Hulud?

Trevor: If that’s the case, then that’s a huge honor. I don’t really think of us as being that big. But to be taken into a context with those other bands... Shai Hulud is awesome. I’ve listened to Shai Hulud since they put out their first full length. And they actually influenced my first band, before this band.

Josh: What’s going on with Eulogy right now?

Trevor: They’re putting out our new EP. Then we have one more full length with them, on our contract and then we’re looking for a different label. Everyone at Eulogy is awesome, but we’re getting a better offer from a bigger label right now. We’ll still work together, but we’re not sure how yet because we’re not sure where we’re going to end up. It’s a good thing though. It’s some sell out thing. It’s not like we’re signing to some big label, like Def Jam or something. We’re still going to keep it underground.

Josh: Where exactly will you go though? Something like EVR or Victory?

Trevor: EVR and Century Media is where we’re looking and talking to right now. No lawyers or anything involved yet, but it will probably happen around the spring or summer. You got it out of me, man. (laughs)

Josh: Do you think it’s better to play tours or shows with a lot of bands that sound like you or are just in the same genre, or do you like it better when the bands are different?

Trevor: I like to mix it up. We actually played a show with Thursday. I don’t know how it’d go over as a tour, but... I do like playing with bands that are heavy. I’d love to tour with Poison the Well, bands of that stature and that we’re friends with. As long as the bands are cool and we can get along.

Josh: It’d be cool if you opened for a band like the Juliana Theory, because then all the little girls there would be like, “AHHHH!!!”

Trevor: We actually did a few shows on the Warped Tour and it was kind of like that, because of all the pop punk kids. There was a hardcore scene there though. But a lot of the pop punk kids were like, “Why is he screaming?”

Josh: She told me- but she’s not a reliable source...

Trevor: You’re not reliable?

Clair: What did I tell you?

Josh: When you said about Warped Tour, and that they put out this comp. and put From Autumn to Ashes on it because hardcore is “getting big”.

Clair: Yeah, they wanted to attract more hardcore kids.

Josh: What do you think about the idea of hardcore getting big?

Trevor: I have no idea. We weren’t asked to be on the compilation, so who cares. But good for them. We like them, so buy the record.

Josh: Do you think hardcore is getting more popular though? Because even bands like Thursday and Glassjaw who may not be straight up hardcore or metal, I think they’re still going to kind of open the door for more bands like that.

Trevor: I think it’s getting more popular. I don’t think it will ever be as popular as it was in the ‘80’s or ‘90’s. Without the help of Headbangers Ball, it won’t ever be as popular as it was. That’s one of the main reasons why I like a lot of the bands that I did growing up. That’s how I got into the scene with bands like Metallica, Slayer, Anthrax, Megadeath and the popular metal at the time. But I think it helped a lot of the hardcore bands at the time to get popular. It’d be so cool if that show came back. That show got so many people into so many good bands. And they got rid of MtvX and replaced it with Mtv Jams, which is stupid because most of the music on Jams is what Mtv plays anyway.