April 3, 1970

Globe, Arizona



“Not Ray! Who then?” Ray’s wife asked him.

Body -- spirit -- soul -- God! -- many worlds -- many universes -- many galaxies, like pebbles on a beach, so vast. Each galaxy set up for man[‘s] expansion.

“Which is most important?”

God!

“Who is God?”

God is everything.

“Not one thing?”

Not one thing, but everything. God is -- is God!

“[Who] do you want to tell me about?”

In the beginning -- in the beginning God gave man[‘s] spirit because He was lonely. Then [man’s] spirit was not enough, because spirit always knew of God -- in spirit -- so many spirits -- so many, many spirits.

Then God thought, “I SHOULD [MAKE] MAN, FOR I HAVE USE [FOR, OF] THIS [MAN].” Before, before there were many gods, like our God, before [the two] worlds, many worlds.

[Editor’s note: At this point, part of the recording from which these words were transcribed was erased and recorded over. The short tape on which these words were recorded had run out by the time Ray’s wife was given instructions on how to awaken him. So she rewound the tape to this point and recorded her instructions. They have been moved to the end of this transcript.

Throughout this conversation, their television set is playing in the background. His wife appears to have left it on when Ray fell onto the sofa in a coma-like seizure. When she saw he was safe, she’d quickly grabbed the tape recorder. In the five years since his 1965 brain injuries, Ray had never spoken during the coma-like seizures, nor had he ever been awakened. She thought his neurologist might want to hear these whispers.

The part of the recorded message that wasn’t recorded over continues here, with her question.]

“Where can we prove this?”

Cairo. In Egypt (cough), in Egypt. I was there. And he came and he said, “Form thy a church for one God.” I built Him a temple.

“What was your name; do you know? We can find out later.”

[Note: throughout this conversation, their television set is playing in the background and one hears the normal sounds of a household.]

I built Him a temple, and God, God sends him [to me.]

“What did God say? Can you hear me? Ray?”

Not Ray.

“Why can’t I call you Ray?”

Ray is of this plane. I, by my name who speaks through him -- who’ve taken possessions of his body and his soul, there to guide him, that others may learn through him -- that they may learn a way to God.

“What can Ray do to help you?”

For Ray is I, and I am Ray.

“Can you help him?”

Yes. [said lovingly.]

“How?”

Every day, in his walk, in his speech, sometimes he grows irritable with people. The reason is because in his conscious state his mind projects such force, and he does not understand it all.

“How can we help him understand it?”

Love, understanding, and listen to him.

“Don’t I? [she said, a little shortly.]

Sometime.

His missions and my mission are to bring man back to God -- for when he awakens he will have new knowledge that he has not had before, for he will be able to speak of things I have thought of, and to think knowledge -- [He] will be closer to God. Closer to God.

“How will he know when you want to come again?”

He will know. I have told him once before that the key --

“Where is the key?”

There are other interfering powers.

“Should Ray wake up now?”

No. There are other -- there are other things which you should ask: one of yourself, one of your mother, one of your aunt, one of your father. I am not permitted to give information about personal souls without consent of souls; only if you ask.

The key can be opened by yourself. You must relax him; make him rest. He shall have this knowledge; therefore, placing him into a trance state.

“Should he place himself or should I, and how should he?”

It would be easier for him if you did this for him.

“How often?”

The time or [how] often does not matter -- only should he have proper rest in between. When he becomes weak, it is easy for me to come through, but this could kill his body.

“How can we help his body?”

Rest. Rest, relaxing of his nervous system.

“How?”

Massaging the lower and upper part of his back and neck, using vibration, not as has been used before -- the vitamins....

[Note: As these words were spoken, the tape ran out on the small recorder. She rewound the tape to the middle, recording over some of the message to get these instructions on how to wake Ray up.]

...He can awaken, but they are very weakened. You should tell him he will feel better, but tell him how he will feel better -- both body and mind. Tell him to remember all things he has heard and seen, and therefore, he will gain a knowledge of my voice. Tell him that his body, all parts, and detail them, will feel better when he awakens, that he will feel completely rested.

Now I am growing very weak, very weak.

“Then you rest and I will waken Ray.

“Ray -- Ray? It’s time to....”

[At this point the recorder was turned off.]

 

[This transcript has been compared with audio tape recording for accuracy.]

 

Copyright © 1970 by A. Ray Elkins, through whom these words were spoken, Globe, Arizona.