Navdi listens
* shadowdweller listening intently
* Sataru listens
* RavenWulf lays quietly
* Navdi smiles at Raven, turns back to Neva
<NevaPaws> How would you all feel about having a sister pack? The ShadowRunners have similar values in their pack as us. They do not 'talk' as wolves but they are like our pack, as they follow the wolven spirit greatly and have family bonds.
<shadowdweller> what would a sister pack entail?
<NevaPaws> We've never really discussed having a sister pack as a pack but I'd like to now.
* Navdi thinks it might be a good idea
<shadowdweller> ((I am wondering how it would change the way this pack functions))
<NevaPaws> As a sister pack, the members of the pack are treated as equal to pack. We stand by each other in times of stress and help each other out.
* Sataru thinks it might be good
<Nakomis> i'd love to have the Shadow Runners as a sister pack :)
<Sataru> I think it would be pretty cool
<Navdi> the more, the merrier =)
<NevaPaws> The way the pack function would not really change. We'd keep our ways and values and rules, but we would have the support of another pack. If one member is in need, or for advice.
<Navdi> that is good.
* NevaPaws smiles to Rave
<Sataru> that would be cool
<NevaPaws> would you like to add anything, Rave?
<shadowdweller> ((being a non member, I would wonder if the memebers of the other pack would fill roles in our pack, like dual hats))
* RavenWulf tail wags contently
* Lupa` nods slightly
<NevaPaws> (no, the ranks would stay within our pack for our members)
<shadowdweller> ((that is good to know))
<shadowdweller> ((would there be like, joint hunts))
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*** ChanServ sets mode: +o `Spirit
* AlaskanWlf gruffs a welcome to `Spirit Sweet Mystic's CareTaker
*** AlaskanWlf sets mode: +o `Spirit
<NevaPaws> (as a sister pack, Id believe the sister pack members have the privileges of hunting within the clearing in group hunts as members, ut that would be discussed)
* `Spirit pads in
<`Spirit> hello :)
<NevaPaws> (ut=but)
* `Spirit NUZZIES NEVIE!!!
<`Spirit> hi Nevie!!
<NevaPaws> Hey Spirit :)
<Nakomis> hey Spiri :)
* shadowdweller moves to Spirit....nuzzies her gently (did not think you would make it))
<`Spirit> ((me either :/ ))
<NevaPaws> (Nak, can you rp to Spirit in pm)
* `Spirit nuzzies ShadowDweller :)
<`Spirit> how is everyone!?
* NevaPaws nuzzles Spirit
* shadowdweller slurps Spirit's muzzle lovingly
* Sataru smiles to SPirit
<NevaPaws> (meeting started)
<`Spirit> hehe
<`Spirit> hi Sat! Long time noe see ;) 
* `Spirit licks Shadow
<Sataru> Yeah
<Nakomis> (okies)
* Sataru votes for the sister pack
<`Spirit> :)
* StariWlf does too
<Sataru> :)
<`Spirit> ^.^
* `Spirit pads over to the meeting and sits next to ShadowDweller...perks her ears
<shadowdweller> ((as an assessment in waiting do I have a vote or no))
<`Spirit> ((oh, Kovie is here too ))
<NevaPaws> (its not really a vote...tell us your opinion shadow :)
* AlaskanWlf pads over to the edge of the clearing's boundaries, stopping to raise her leg on a tree to mark it clearly as the pack's territory, tail swishing contentedy
* `Spirit smiles and perks her ears
<shadowdweller> (I think a sister pack is a great idea, knew relationships, new actions)
<NevaPaws> what do you think about the Sister pack, Spirit, Kovi?
* `Spirit nods agreeing with ShadowDweller..
* NevaPaws nods
* Navdi wags his tail
<NevaPaws> It's not official, but I'll keep the pack updated on the sister pack deal, ok? :)
<Sataru> ok
* Navdi nods
<`Spirit> mmkay
<`Spirit> thank you
* `Spirit nods
<RavenWulf> (( I will be putting the same idea to my pack tommorrow at our moot, you are allw elcome to attend as guests ))
<shadowdweller> sounds good to me
* `Spirit grins softly
<NevaPaws> (thank you :)
* shadowdweller grooms spirits fur
<`Spirit> ^.^
<Sataru> ((thanks))
* `Spirit grins and murr's softly as her fur is being groomed..
<`Spirit> thank you ShadowDweller..
<`Spirit> :)
* Navdi smiles
<RavenWulf> (( is in our clearing and ooc chans (#WolvenHeart and #WolfHeart (oos)) at 3:30pm EST ))
<NevaPaws> Ok, now, has everyone read over to new hunting page on the website?
* `Spirit nods
* Nakomis nods
<NevaPaws> (tell me how it goes, I cant make it bc i'm working)
* Navdi nodnods
<`Spirit> <Kovo> *nuzzles Lupa and listens*
<Nakomis> (okies Rave)
<RavenWulf> (( okies mom ))
<Sataru> i havent seen the hunting part yet.. will read it now tho
<`Spirit> ^-^
* `Spirit smiles softly..
* StariWlf (has gotta go :[)
<NevaPaws> What does every1 think? Do you agree with the hunting rules?
<NevaPaws> (ok Star *nuzzies* we'll send the log)
* `Spirit nods
<NevaPaws> (ok, Spirit)
<`Spirit> (awww :( Take care Stari!)
<NevaPaws> (er, sat I mean)
<`Spirit> *nuzzies*
<StariWlf> (*nuzzies*)
<`Spirit> ;)
* `Spirit grins
<StariWlf> (ruv rooz)
<shadowdweller> how do I find the hunting part?
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<NevaPaws> It's under Members pages, Hunting
<Lupa`> (( Sorry guys, i haven't been paying attention.. allergies are bad.. and it's getting late.. and i have to be up at like.. crack of dawn. I won't be on all weekend.. I'm going away. so.. if someone could send me the log monday? )) 
<Nakomis> http://www.angelfire.com/nv/tmyst/pack_hunt.html
* `Spirit (nuzzies Lupa)
<NevaPaws> (sure Lup, hope you feel better)
<Sataru> thx Nakie
<Nakomis> (okies Lupa *nuzzles* take care)
<Nakomis> yw
* Lupa` ((* nuzzles spirit, Kovo, Neva, Nakomis* sorry guys.. perhaps another time.. when i can read the screen...))
* NevaPaws sist next to Nak
<shadowdweller> (Lupa hope you feel better I have allergies too and hate them)
*** Lupa` has quit IRC (Quit: Well Off i go...Scratching my eyes out due to allergies and needing to sleep before i have to get up again. Wolven Pride * HOWLS*)
* `Spirit smiles
<NevaPaws> Does anyone have any suggestions or comments about the Hunting Rules? I'd like to make them official if all agree.
<shadowdweller> why do you have to be a pack member to hunt?
<NevaPaws> That is a privilege of being a Sweet Mystic.
<shadowdweller> but as an assessment, I would like to join also (in waiting)
<NevaPaws> The Pack must hunt to survive. And we could have visitors flooding the screen on hunts. It's a way to organize the hunts.
<Nakomis> visitors may hunt too
* `Spirit nods
<Nakomis> is hunting pack-only now Nevie?
<NevaPaws> As an assessment in waiting you may hunt if invited by the alpha, beta, or Hunter.
<shadowdweller> but as a person who has gone to the length of applying and being a "part" of the pack..should not some type of recognition in pack hunts be given
* NevaPaws nods to Nak, yes
* `Spirit perks her ears listing :)
<`Spirit> *listening
<shadowdweller> that seems to be the same recognition that visitors get isn't it...hunt if invited?
* Sataru reads the hunting page
<`Spirit> ^.^
<NevaPaws> Assessments also may hunt small prey.
<shadowdweller> what I am saying is, that as an assessment in waiting, would like to be more than a guest ya know
* Navdi perks his ears
* `Spirit listens
<NevaPaws> As Assessment in aiting, you would be invited before a visitor.
<shadowdweller> cool
<`Spirit> ^.^
* `Spirit grins softly...
<`Spirit> Feel the POWER!
<`Spirit> lol
* Navdi smiles
* Nakomis griggles
<`Spirit> ^.~
<Nakomis> so visitors may hunt if invited?
<Nakomis> it says visitors and assessments in waiting may hunt big prey if invited, but what about small prey?
* `Spirit perks her ears
<shadowdweller> can the rules be changed slightly, that if an assessment in waiting desires to hunt, that person must be opted in?
<NevaPaws> well, as of now visitors cant hunt with the bot but we can change that
<`Spirit> ((have to leave at 9:30 PM my time :/ ))
* `Spirit nods
<NevaPaws> Assessments and pack members can hunt small prey
* `Spirit nods agreeing
<NevaPaws> if visitors were allowed to hunt small prey, id think the channel would turn into a hunt channel and be flooded
* Nakomis nods
<shadowdweller> I know, I am talking about a "pack hunt"  it seems that if everyone was busy, no one would want tot alke the time to bring in a person....
<shadowdweller> and if that were the case in a big hunt an assessmetn in waiting would just wait
<NevaPaws> shadow if you are present when a group hunt is called and wished to hunt, as assessment in waiting, we would make sure you were invited.
<Nakomis> i'm sure that wouldn't be the case dweller
* `Spirit smiles softly
* Sataru finishes the hunting page
<Sataru> i agree with it
<shadowdweller> okay
<`Spirit> ShadowDweller is a fantastic hunter by the way. He made the kill on our last hunt :)
* `Spirit smiles
* Nakomis nods :)
<NevaPaws> But we make it a point for those that have advanced to Full Assessment and as Pack members, they may hunt w/o being invited. Gaining Full Assessment takes patience.
<shadowdweller> No I made the last hit LOL
* NevaPaws nods
<`Spirit> ;)
<shadowdweller> just at the right place at the rigth time
* `Spirit grins
<`Spirit> hehe
<`Spirit> and great moves to!
<`Spirit> lol
<`Spirit> He mutilated the mosse!
<`Spirit> big time !
<`Spirit> *LOL*
<Nakomis> hehe
* `Spirit griggles softly..batting at ShadowDweller's muzzle, poking fun ^.^ hehe
* shadowdweller shyly backs away, tucking tail in embarassment
<Sataru> so wats next in the meeting?
<`Spirit> gege
<`Spirit> *hehe
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* AlaskanWlf gruffs a welcome to IceFang Sweet Mystics Assessment In Waiting
*** AlaskanWlf sets mode: +v IceFang
* `Spirit bounds off to Shadow tugging his tail to come back :)
* `Spirit greet's IceFang
* IceFang looks to Spirit and wags his tail.
<`Spirit> hello, how are you IceFang
<IceFang> I otay... How are yew?
<`Spirit> glad you can make it IceFang, I am good thank you :)
* IceFang grins.
<`Spirit> my name is Spirit, I am the Sweet Mystic's CareTaker :)
* NevaPaws smiles, watching (then sees what next on the list ;)
<IceFang> Hewwo ^-^ Im IceFang, Da Assess in waitin :D
<`Spirit> :D
<NevaPaws> Oh yea, on the Contact page I need email eddys from Navdi, Satie (kada and mill, who arent here)
<NevaPaws> (eddys=addys)
<Sataru> mines kmarsh4@bellsouth.net
<Navdi> (( Navdi_ligai@hotmail.com ))
* `Spirit perks her ears
<NevaPaws> k, thanks)
<NevaPaws> And another thing for the site, would you guys like to have a Past members page?
<`Spirit> hmm..sure :)
<`Spirit> I think that would be nice
<Sataru> that could be cool
* Nakomis nods
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* Navdi nods.
* `Spirit smiles softly...listening
<shadowdweller> who would keep it up to date...would that be the alphas job?
<NevaPaws> the webmasters, me and Nak
* `Spirit nod
<`Spirit> *nods*
<shadowdweller> sounds good to me
<`Spirit> yup
<NevaPaws> Ok, looks like thats everything we wanted to discuss. Does anyone have an questions about what was discussed or anything else that needs to be discussed?
* `Spirit nods to Nevie
<`Spirit> I do
* NevaPaws perks an ear
* `Spirit steps forward a bit
* Sataru lisens
* Nakomis looks to her sister
<`Spirit> I had a thought..
* NevaPaws listens
* Navdi perks an ear
<`Spirit> I was wondering, that since Nevie has to do alot of hooman stuff (like schooling and such), like, if Nevie is gone for a long time, then could Nakie be the temporary alpha? That way things will flow a little bit? Or since Nakie is old enough, help lead the pack with Nevie, like you both be alpha's or something like that??
<`Spirit> Thats what I was just wondering
<NevaPaws> As Beta, Nakie is the Acting Alpha when I am absent :)
* `Spirit nods :)
<`Spirit> ahhh mmkay ^.^
* Nakomis smiles
<`Spirit> thank you :)
<shadowdweller> Can I ask something?
<NevaPaws> And I have all the confidence that Nakie makes good choice as Acting Alpha, she is a great Beta and leader
* Navdi nods and smiles
* NevaPaws nods to shadow
* `Spirit nods nods :)
<`Spirit> yes!
<Nakomis> thanks :)
<shadowdweller> I know that some wolves require more training than others...but it seems that it could take along time to move through the first two stages
* Nakomis looks to Dweller
<Sataru> shadow.. i cant speak on everyones behalf.. but  i know i had to wait awhile to get to a member..
<shadowdweller> I would like to suggest that there be specific time periods. where assesssments in training...
<shadowdweller> and assessments could ask to be tested
<shadowdweller> and if pass the test, move forward
* `Spirit steps back to where she was sitting, then lets ShadowDweller talk ^.^ Listening..
<Sataru> and it was worth the wait
<Navdi> yes.
<Sataru> assessment isnt a testing period..
<Nakomis> if a wolf truly wants to become a pack member, then they should me patient. it's not a matter of "testing" a wolf to see if they are fit to be a pack member, the wolf needs time to get to know the pack members and the packmembers need time to get to know the wolf
* Nakomis nods to Sat
<Sataru> its a period for u to get to know the apack and know everyone else
<NevaPaws> we dont like time periods, bc everywolf is different in advancing to Full Assessment. Our 'tests' can't really be tested bc membership is based on loyalty, commitment and interaction within our home.
* NevaPaws nods to Nak and Sat and smiles
* Sataru smiles
* `Spirit nods
<shadowdweller> trust me when I tell you I understand that.....who and how is that determination made...lets say Neva, that most of the time I am on...Naki or you are not on either
<shadowdweller> who then can determine the loyalty of the assessment in waiting?
* `Spirit listens
<shadowdweller> I ask this because many times when I have been with Spirit and Kovo, and they went into the clearning, no one was there
<Navdi> when everyone is comfortable with having you around, you move up.
<Navdi> as did I
<Sataru> me 2
<NevaPaws> Forming bonds with our pack is the most important part of becoming part of our family :) we listen to our members and we try to come on when the assessment is on. we find ways.
<shadowdweller> I am not trying to be argumentative at all....honestly
* `Spirit nods
<NevaPaws> These are good questions shadow and I'm glad you are taking part in the meeting. It shows you are serious about our pack.
* Nakomis nods
* Navdi looks at Neva and smiles
* `Spirit nods agreeing with Nevie
<NevaPaws> For examples these little things are what make advancements, interaction, communication. You are doing a fine job as Assessment in aiting.
<NevaPaws> +W
<Nakomis> loyalty is shown when an assessment makes an effort to participate in meetings and pack events, interact and get to know packmembers. when we see the wolf is doing these things, it shows their commitment and interest in the pck and they will be advanced
* NevaPaws nods agreeing with Nak
<Sataru> yeah
* `Spirit smiles softly..
<`Spirit> yup
* Sataru agrees with both Nak and Neva
* Nakomis smiles
<shadowdweller> my hope is to be seen as a pack member who can be counted on
* NevaPaws nods
* `Spirit nods nods
* `Spirit wags her tail some, then tucks it close to her side
<NevaPaws> we hope all our members can be counted on :) That's why it takes great effort and patience to advance :)
<Nakomis> (i'm sorry wolfies, but i really gotta go afk for a bit)
* `Spirit smiles softly...
<NevaPaws> (okz, Nak)
* `Spirit is someone who can be counted on! :)
*** Nakomis is now known as Nakie{afk}
<Nakie{afk}> (i'll bbs)
* NevaPaws smiles
<Sataru> i have a question...
<`Spirit> (kk)
<Sataru> i kinda asked neva about it...
* `Spirit perks her ears to Sat
<Sataru> but im gonna open it up jes a bit
<NevaPaws> I just need to say, since our 1 year anniversary was yesterday. This pack has made it so far because of the commitment of its members.
* NevaPaws nods to Sat
<Sataru> i would like to have some role in the pack...
* Navdi turns to sat and listens
<Sataru> i feel like im not doing my dudty by not doing something for the pack
* `Spirit grins
<Sataru> i see most everyone else has some sort of duty within the pack.. and i would like to help out 
* Navdi smiles at Sat
<NevaPaws> every member has a role. Being a member is very important (you should read the rank page under All members) ..but if you wish to have a specific duty we will keep our eyes and ears open, but patience is needed. :)
* Navdi would like something similar...
<Sataru> i agree with u neva
<shadowdweller> since his name has Satar in it......how about the pack "howler"  songster LOL
<Sataru> i will be glad to be patient
<shadowdweller> just kidding
<Sataru> jes wanted you all to know that im ready if needed
* NevaPaws smiles to Sat and nods to Nav in acknowledgement....thank you
<Sataru> :)
<`Spirit> hehe
* `Spirit grins
* AlaskanWlf prances around the clearing, grinning wolfishly, tail waving happily.
* Navdi nods, thankful
* NevaPaws smiles
<`Spirit> :D
* `Spirit nuzzles AlaskanWlf
* AlaskanWlf murrs loudly and paws `Spirit, nuzzling softly.
<`Spirit> hehe
* NevaPaws griggles
<NevaPaws> anything else to talk about?
* NevaPaws looks around
* `Spirit perks her ears
* `Spirit thinks a moment
<Sataru> not that i know of
* Navdi looks around
<Navdi> guess not
<Sataru> oh  and im sorry i was gone for so long..
<NevaPaws> (I'm already brainstorming the next meeting, hehe ;)
<NevaPaws> It's ok satie :)
<Sataru> :)
<`Spirit> hehe
<shadowdweller> can I make another suggestion...on the bios somehow, can the date that each "rank" is given be put
<shadowdweller> to make sure that an exact time is 'known'somehow?
<NevaPaws> sure, I think we can do that. 
<`Spirit> :)
<`Spirit> good idea
<NevaPaws> we have a history page, but we can add the dates ranked to the members page as well
* Navdi thinks itīs an exellent idea
<shadowdweller> it was just a thought\
* NevaPaws smiles and nods
<NevaPaws> thank you shadow
<`Spirit> ^.^
<`Spirit> nice thought then :D
<`Spirit> lol
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* NevaPaws grins..anything else?
<shadowdweller> thank you for listening
<NevaPaws> thank you for contributing :)
<`Spirit> *thinks*
<Sataru> not that i know of nevie
* NevaPaws looks to Spirit
* `Spirit shakes her muzzle
<`Spirit> nuthin I can think of :)
<`Spirit> for now 
<NevaPaws> ok :)
<NevaPaws> I'll call this meeting to an end, thanks everywolfie :)