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SUBJECT - BITING
TITLE - HE KEEPS BITING ME
DATE - 30/01/01


Question:
My new horse, a 16hh TBx is fine in every way except for when he is in the stable. When I am changing his rugs or tacking up he will often try to bite me. If I tell him off and smack him he just bites again! What can I do?

Answers:
I bought my mare last January so I've had her just over a year now and I've only just overcome her biting problem (well, still working on it).

I tried everything, being really nice and when she tried to bite just growling at her, to smacking and shouting at her and nothing worked, she would just come back for more.

Someone told me to take a whip with me whenever I handle her and as soon as she makes a move to bite or even threaten (even as little as pinning her ears back) I was to give her one firm smack anywhere behind the shoulder (so as not to make the horse headshy).

I am not one for hitting horses (prefer the kinder approach) but after being bitten badly twice I decided enough was enough and I've never looked back. I tied her up so she was loose enough to bite me and as soon as she threatened I gave her one hard smack on her side and shouted "no" at the same time. She just froze then carried on eating her haynet as if nothing had happened. I immediately carried on as I was (grooming at the time). When I got to the other side of her she threatened again and got another hard smack and a "no" and once again she froze and then returned to her haynet. Since that day she has only tried once or twice and has received the same treatment and now I can rug her, tack her up, groom, etc, without worrying about being bitten.

She is now a lot happier in herself, is working better and is a much friendlier horse.

You might not agree with the action, as I didn't to start with, but it is definitely worth a go. Biting is very painful - I still have a scar to prove it!

Try to work out WHY he is doing this! Check he is not in any pain? Are sure his tack and rugs are causing him no discomfort whilst being put on or during wearing? Make sure you give him no reason to bite doing everything slowly and gently. Otherwise, it may be that he has previously had ill-fitting tack and/or rugs, or been roughly handled during tacking/rugging up. Do be sympathetic and patient.

It sounds like someone may have been mean to your horse and either hurt or pinched them when doing the girth up or hit them with a rug strap or something in the past and of course your horse remembers it. As someone else said be sympathetic, and above all try to ignore it as the more attention you pay to it, the more your horse will do it. I have a thoroughbred with the same problem, and after 5 months he is finally starting to learn that I will not hurt him, and that biting me does not get any reaction. Do wear padded clothes for a while though until your horse starts to learn that it is not really a big deal.

I have just posted a message on the Horse Care board regarding the Vicebreaker (see Message board-horse care), The horse I ride is just the same, lovely in every other way except in the stable.

It could be that in the past someone has hurt him while rugging up or tacking him, or it could be a territory thing which is what we think causes our horses terrible behaviour. I try to discourage his aggression by pushing him away and shouting "NO!", then fussing and praising when he is lovely and cute, which he can be!!

The only thing to do is be very very patient. You must also be consistent, and make sure anyone else who handles your horse is aware of what you are trying to achieve. Good luck!


Hi, You could try clicker training which will encourage him to become more focussed on you. It has worked for many horses that I know. A lot of horses hate having rugs on, they do not realise we do it for their own good.

SUBJECT - SPOOKING
TITLE - SPOOKING
DATE - 30/12/01

Question:


I have a 9 year old 16.2 chestnut which I have had for a year. I am an experienced rider and have been riding for 25 years. On the roads and in the school I never have a problem, but when I am riding on the bridal path, it does not matter what pace, walk, trot or canter, he unexpectantly spooks. It is always over nothing. He just makes it up an excuse. It is as if he suddenly says to him self, "Ohh look there is a pound coin on the floor...", drops his head and should to the right and backside to the left. And there is no pound coin. It could be a little bird in a bush, or just a few leaves waving in gently with the wind. It all happens in a fraction of a second. I have come off already 3 times and now have changed my saddle to give more support. Nevertheless I feel insecure. If he did it in a full galope, he would kill me. I tell him off when he has done it, shout at him and if him a tap with the crop. he is ok than for 3 minutes or so But then he will try something else. Sometimes when he has not done something for some time, it is as if he thinks, " oh I have not spooked yet , I better give it a go" and a couple of minutes later, bang , there you are. It is hardly a relaxing ride. The problem is not isolated to me, he does with others who ride him as well. and the same applies if you are out alone or with others.

Apart from this problems he listens well, he stops easily, the bit is ok, an ordinary snaffle. In the school he is obedient, enjoys his work and jumping. On the roads he is excellent. All things other horses would spook at he does not blink an eyelet. In the stable, you could not have an easier horse, when feeding he behaves no different from any other horse and he is good with people and liked on the yard. He has a flash nose band on when he goes out and a martingale. We feed him on a cool mix and he is out grazing at least 7 hours a day. I also had problems with him the field with other horses and I do not know if this is related. He is not that sociable with other horses. When he is out with one other he is ok, but in a small group, after a couple of hours, he starts to cause trouble and starts biting the others. I think he gets quickly bored. He is ridden daily sometimes twice a day. We feel its best to keep him busy. That is the picture.

Do you have any suggestions how to resolve it ?

Answers:
I sympathize immensely. After riding for 30 years, and having ridden a wide variety of horses and ponies, this is not an uncommon occurrence, and your certainly not on your own!

My last experience was with a friends horse who, compared with others, was not that bad, but if she decided she was in "one of those moods" that was it. I had her on loan, and got used to her moods. I would often spend the whole ride talking to her, saying things like "it's OK, it's only the wind" or "no, the blade of grass won't jump up and bite you!". We got so that she trusted my judgement, but that wouldn't stop her from suddenly cat leaping at the slightest little thing! Mr Bones, another horse I used to ride, had an inherent fear of the big round bales, especially those wrapped in straw, and dead trees. I spent nearly an hour one day trying to get him past a dead tree when out on a ride, and eventually got him past by asking a passing farmer to drive next to us to hide it! Polly backed into a ditch at the site of a dead Elder tree poking out of a hedge!!

So yes, horses do spook at the silliest things,(but we still love them dearly). To help you, I seem to remember Your Horse doing a feature a few years ago on the way Police Horses are trained - not to spook at any noises crashes bangs etc.. It may be worth contacting the BHS or one of the mounted Police sections to ask their advice and see if you can maybe hire their facilities. In the short term, lots of encouragement and talking (even if the locals do think you've lost it!!) and when your horse goes past something that he obviously thinks is terrifying, even if he crab walks, lots of patting and "Good Boy's" to make him feel he's achieved something.

hi , i know exactly how you feel, my horse is exactly the same except i have no school to ride in! i must say i just put up with it, hes 14 now exracehorse and i just put it down to him going senile! hes not dangerouse but he can whip round on a sixpence, but he always has ,he lives out at the mo and he is just the same when stabled, i just make sure i go far off places when hacking and keep going forward, he will not stand for a second if made too he will rear, he is just like that so i do know how you feel i too have done the softly softly approach and then went into the opposite direction and given him a good wacking, but he hyperventilates and makes him even worse ,i dont even carry a stick no more, i just grit my teeth pat him and throw the reins at him to let him know that the blade of grass really isnt a lion in disguise.so good luck and i do comiserate.

SUBJECT - TRAILERS
TITLE - TRAILER PARTITIONS
DATE - 28/02/02

Question:

I have a question regarding trailer design. My pony has recently broken the center partition in our 2 horse Rice trailer by leaning hard against it as we turn corners (very slow I must add!). It is a pretty solid wood frame with divider board that reaches the floor. I notice that most modern trailers have dividers that leave a gap of around 2 feet or so to the floor. I guess the horse is able to spread its feet wider with this design. On the other hand it may get into difficulty if it fell over and became stuck, or clashed with the other horse! I need to replace the partition. Which design should I go for, full or half partition?

Answers:
Just out of interest why does your horse lean on the partition - do you travel him on his own with the partition in - if this is the case then he likely leans on it as he is off balance. You should take it out when travelling him on his own - you don't say if you travel him with company or not. As far as partitions go - they have a gap incase the horse tries to lie down.
 
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