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No Choice?

Dangers of "Original Sin" Theology

Much nowdays has been said about the ability and inability of a person to decide to do what they want to do.

Many pro-abortionists incorrectly claim that anti-abortionists have no choice, cannot make a choice, presume that humans choosing anything (other than committing the sin and crime of abortion) is impossible, and are against choice as a human capacity.

"Abstinence only forever" is what the prurient and sexually immoral blurt out, when in fact what the opportunity instead is: "abstinence against premarital or extramarital fornication and adultery, but plenty of spousal sex with the spouse during marriage."

They dishonestly - like the Serpent in the garden who said: "Did God say that you shall not eat of any tree in the Garden" and said: "You will not die" - are both overbroad and leave out crucial qualifiers.

The fact of the matter is that to decide to not commit abortion homicide is itself a choice and an option which one has the original capacity to make.

The doctrine of "original sin" means that both I and you the reader must (and not of our own freewilled volition, if we have not already) automatically be forced (by our own original sin) to murder Jews, to rob the Federal Reverve Bank, to assassinate Trump and/or whoever, to brutually rape and dismember any singular or number of teenaged females, to detonate a massive explosive within the White House, and much more.

Sins which pre-Trump, pre-teenaged females, pre-demotion-by-explosives Adam never thought of committing, nor perhaps could commit at the time.

And we cannot do anything about it to prevent ourselves from doing such atrocities.

Consider the case of Jesus Christ, the perfect human who never sinned. Was He destined for succombing to natural death if He had not first been murdered, or (better yet) allowed Himself to be murdered? Was He born with Eve's and Adam's so-called "sin nature?"

"But His God nature overrode His human nature" some would blatter, "thus obliterating His human nature entirely."

Ecclesiastes 7:20 Surely there is not a righteous man on Earth who does good and never sins.

Does that include Jesus? If not, the possibility is that He was not a man, but was only God. Correct?

Does the Lutheran liturgy of: "we are in bondage to sin and cannot free ourselves" plus: "we are by nature sinful and unclean" apply in the case of the Lord Jesus?

If so, Scripture lies by stating that He never sinned, being that Christ (assuming that He was an actual man) must also have "been in bondage to sin" and "by nature sinful and unclean."

And here we get back to the forbidden word: "choice," rather than being forced to do evil because "we were born that way" (as some homosexuals wrongly claim in trying to justify their proclivity to be fags and their acts of actually being queer, saying perverted things and doing perverted actions).

Romans 7:18 (paraphrase) I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my dirty, filthy, rotten, stinking, accursed, evil-Holy-Spirit-cursing-and-blaspheming, pathetic-Christ-reviling, third-finger-up-to-God, Hell-destined flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it.

He apparently not only could not do anything which was right (even asking God for help), but also would not do anything which was right? Yes?

And God is responsible (though not to blame) for it?

Galatians 3:22 [RSV] But the scripture consigned all things to sin, that what was promised to faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
Galatians 3:22 [KJ21] But the Scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

Remember, it was God the Creator who put the Tempter in the Garden, and created Satan (the Devil) in the first place, although it is questionable to assert that God forced Lucifer and his fallen angel associates to rebel and get ousted from Heaven.

Whatever happened to "free will?" Does not the Devil have it also, as do we? Is the Devil also guilty of "original sin" and could not do anything about it back then, now, and here ever after?

James 1:13 [RSV] Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted with evil and he himself tempts no one;
James 1:13 [LIT] Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God. For God is not tempted by evils, and He tempts no one.

Hey, which is it: "cannot be tempted" or instead: "is not tempted." Two very different things. Cannot be both.

So God Himself has no choice to screw up or not screw up? Or, is it instead of a "can" Himself sin, simply "does not" Himself sin (as the Literal Version puts it)?

Titus 1:2 [RSV] in hope of eternal life which God, who never lies, promised ages ago.
Titus 1:2 [KJ21] in hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised before the world began,

Which is it: "never lies" or instead: "cannot lie." And is it: "ages ago" or rather: "before the world began?"

I like the RSV on part of that one, but not the "ages" wording.

God Himself does have a choice. As did, does, and beyond, Satan and the demons. As do we. But we know, by etched-in-stone assured Scriptural proclamation, the fateful choice which God and the evil ones have already made, and that they fully intend to never choose differently . . . forever.

IF original sin, or having to automatically sin is true, then the following verse does not apply to us humans:

Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live,

Now, is it true that we cannot keep ourselves from doing nothing but sinning (and specifically doing all or most or some of the dastardly acts of anti-patriotic terrorism mention at the beginning of this essay), and thus automatically die because of it?

First Corinthians 15:22a For as in Adam all die . . .

Aha! Proof of "original sin!"

Not so fast! Lest I be like Satan and truncate or maladjust the complete story (or "the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey said), that verse ends as follows:

First Corinthians 15:22b . . . so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

Impossible to choose to be alive in Christ?

Do we have any choice in the matter, or will that also be forced upon us against our will?

What if a person does not want to burn in Hell forever? Will they be forced to, because of "original sin?"

Can we choose to not sin, and decide to not murder babies and non-babies, to not rob the Federal Reverve Bank, to not assassinate Trump and/or whoever, to not rape and dismember any singular or number of teenaged females, and to not detonate an explosive within the White House?

"God made me do it?"

Who's "God"? Sure that "it" wasn't the Devil? Are you playing God? Do WHAT?

What's the "it?"

Romans 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it.

What's the "it?" What is "right?"

Sounds like "we are in bondage to sin and cannot free ourselves" plus "we are by nature sinful and unclean" . . . and the immutable prediction is that we will die - no matter what (like Christ died, albeit prematurely or by being murdered and allowing ourselves to be murdered, gradually or suddenly)?

Will we expire - no matter what?

John 11:25 Jesus said to her: "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live,
John 11:26 and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?"

What's that: ". . . .whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die" heretical garbage (IF it is, in fact, ridiculous and absurd goofy trashtalk)?

The first part of John 11:25 is understandable, of: "whoever believes in me, though they die, yet shall they live" in view of the inevitable future resurrection.

However, it seemingly contradicts the second part of that verse, in that why should someone who "believes in" Christ die at all in the first place?

The answer is assisted by the little but absolutely crucial phrase in the second part of the verse:

". . . whoever LIVES . . ."

In other words, IF either one of us, or both, perfectly obey all the Moral Law, and therefore never have sinned in any way, nor are sinning now in any way, nor ever will sin in any way, death cannot claim us, and our never-dying-nor-will-die immortal destiny is (like it was with sinless and perfect Jesus) guaranteed - unless we, like the Lord, allow someone to crucify us by environmental pollution, acts of violence, whatever.

Only "the soul who sins" shall die.

Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold," all souls are mine; the soul of the father as well as the soul of the son is mine: the soul "that" sins shall die.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul who (not: "that") sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

Not the sins of Daddy Adam.

Whether we have been born into a sinful environment, and even experienced aspects of that sinful environment while yet in the womb.

Clearly and obviously, we all have been born into sin - not born sinning, even automatically, even as bawling and fussing infants and children of wrath becoming wrathful with an uncomfortable sinful environment, suffering from imperfect somewhat-negligent abusive parents (too stupid to realize that we are too cold, too warm, hungry, needing diaper change, craving non-abandoned affection, weary and tired, anxious to move around rather than being constrictively bound in a blanket, whatever) and environmentally-conditioned sinning.

The fact of the matter is that we, as fallible humans, can choose to not sin, and as pre-born children have previously chosen to not sin (but by conscious freewill decision?):

Romans 9:11 . . . though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad, so that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of His call . . .

Wait a minute! "Done nothing either good or bad?"

How does that jive with "original sin?" And presumed "automatic death" for those who automatically are of necessity and by default forced to be "in bondage to sin" and "by nature sinful and unclean?"

Is there some disconnect here relating to the following "original sin" insinuations or inferences?

Psalm 51:5 "Behold" (i.e. see and think about, or simply be aware of and consider, or merely: Hey!), I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Does that mean that Davy's probably-shamefully/non-shamefully?-naked-at-the-time pseudo-mom conceived Davy during an act of lurid and lewd fornication, whether in some brothel or whatever? With fake-daddy's lustful compliance?

So how, IF such was the case, did that, then how did that, misaffect fetal-concepted-babe Davy?

Psalm 58:3 The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies.

Did they also go astray when yet in the womb as pre-born (not "un"-born) babes? How could they "speak lies" as bloody newborns emerging from the womb suddenly shrieking out rebellious semantic expletives of English-slang vocabulary?

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."
John 15:16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should stay around; so that whatever you ask the Father (not "Mother") in my name, He (not "She") "may" ("may" or instead "will"?) give it to you.
Acts 22:14 And he said: 'The God of our fathers (not "jewish mothers") appointed you to know His (not "Her") will, to see the Just One and to hear a voice from His (not "Her") mouth."

Sounds like one heck of a miserable Lord-Church courtship resulting in headed-for-divorce marriage: The Bride or Wife has no say in the matter. It's all HIS choice. Right?

John 15:16 implies that we have no choice in the matter of God choosing us. We cannot do anything about that, yes?

Or, can we? And then is it also a question of will we?

Did Jeremiah have to accept the consecration God appointed for him after Jeremiah was born and, (having "reached the age of accountability" and thus being of conscious capacity to choose) automatically have to go along with that? Or not?

Does our presumed "original sin" disability to choose, or (illogically then, as to the first stated premise in this sentence) choose only to do evil and not good, tie in with the following verses?

Deuteronomy 30:19 I call Heaven and Earth to witness against you this day, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life, that you and your descendants may live,
Proverbs 1:29 Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the LORD,
Proverbs 3:31 Do not envy a man of violence and do not choose any of his ways;
Philippians 1:22 If it is to be life in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me. Yet which I shall choose I cannot tell.

Mute point, Moses of Deuteronomy and Solomon of Proverbs and Paul of Philippians - IF you (and I) have no choice in anything anyway. Because of "original sin."(?)

Original sin, you know. Very original. Cute. Kinky. And we are to blame for Eve's screwup in the Garden?

Because of "original sin" at fault for even seeking God and asking Him to save us, keep us from temptation, and deliver us away from evil -- hideously and arrogantly and flagrantly defying our blessed and sacred and holy, non-conquerable and omnipotently-all-powerful Original Sin?

Why seek God or ask Him anything if we are already lost and damned by the Insurmountably-Mighty Original Sin? And the morgue, casket, and cemetery await our repose - even if we always"believe in" [perfectly-on-time-and-always-completely-providing-for-us] Jesus" and always "live in Him [who impeccably, consistently, and completely gives us all we need and crave and on time)?"

Invalidations against (not of) the false Theory of
[internally-must-sin/innately-forced-to-terroristically-transgress]
"Original Sin" are:

1. The Doctrine of Divine Atonement by Christ
2. The Doctrine of Freewill Choice to
a. repent and be forgiven because of Jesus
b. have Divine Atonement, plus present, not merely future, improvement apply to onesself
3. The Doctrine of the Possibility and Actualization of Purification and Sanctification
4. The Doctrine of Divine Guidance and Protection against Overwhelming Temptation against
Mandatory Submission to Commit Gross Illegal Atrocities Deserving Prompt Execution.

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