Actress Carla Gugino talks about her career so far, including her latest, Spy Kids, and costarring with Jet Li in The One.
Carla Gugino is one of those ubiquitously chameleonic actresses. Her name usually draws looks of confusion from film buffs, mostly because her oeuvre to date has been so varied that she's been literally lost in her roles. Mention that she was Pauly Shore's love interest in Son in Law or the platinum blonde who got shot in Snake Eyes and folks will get that glimmer of recognition in their eyes. But just a glimmer. To put it another way, she's not a star, but rather an actor. And that's meant as the highest of compliments.
Gugino is currently burning up the big screen in Robert Rodriguez' smash hit Spy Kids, which re-teams her with Antonio Banderas (the two literally shared a minute's worth of screen time back in 1995's romantic comedy Miami Rhapsody).
At any rate, Spence D. caught up with Ms. G. when she passed through San Francisco to promote Spy Kids. They talked about her diverse career, what kind of food she likes to purloin from hotel mini-bars, and whether or not Jet Li has taught her any martial arts moves, seeing as how they are working on a film together.
Here's what she told us.
IGN FILMFORCE: So Spy Kids is kind of like a reunion for you and Antonio...
CARLA GUGINO: Yeah.
IGNFF: Except this time around you get a lot more screen time.
CG: Exactly! We get much more screen time, which is very cool. Yeah, on Miami
Rhapsody we just sorta got to know each other on the set, but we had, I think literally
one scene where we said "Goodbye." So yeah, this was cool when I found out
Antonio was doing it. It's always nice when you go on a set and you know someone.
So when I got to Austin and got in the hair and make-up trailer and, you know, there
was Antonio "Hi! Hi!" and it just makes it...it's easier to start a movie on that note.
IGNFF: The thing that you got screwed out of on Miami Rhapsody was that you never
got to cut a rug with him. I mean he danced with just about every woman in that
movie, except for you. So did you get a chance to dance with him this time around?
CG: That's true. We did do a little dancing on the set of Spy Kids, actually. Because
Robert plays guitar, so we did a little bit of dancing and he's a very good dancer, I
have to say. But, yeah, not onscreen.
IGNFF: Your career has
been pretty extreme,
ranging from light-hearted
comedies to heavy dramas.
I tried to wade through
Jaded the other night...
CG: Oh my Lord! You
deserve a prize for that. I saw
once online that it was
referred to as "Carla Gugino's
lesbian movie." I didn't realize
that I'd done one.
IGNFF: But going from something like Son in Law, which is the Pauly
Shore piss-take, to a film where you're naked and beaten up on a beach
after having been raped is a pretty drastic character change...
CG: Right [laughs]. I am so sad that you reminded me of that.
IGNFF: And then to go to Spy Kids, that's something that a lot of actors
wouldn't dream of doing these days, you know actually stretching their
roles to the extreme.
CG: Yeah. You know, the thing is that I definitely do gravitate towards really
very, very different material. And I don't have a favorite genre. I mean, I always
sort of base it on instinct. And it does seem to be that after I finish something
that is very dramatic, I end up inevitably wanting to do a comedy or something
like that. Jaded was something – not to give it too much time – that was an
interesting idea, I thought, and the director's a very smart person, and there
were a lot of good elements sort of about it, yet I also think that I was in a place
in my career, it was early on enough that I felt that I could change more than I
really could change; that I could improve it more than...now I think I realize that
there is only so much you can do to make something, to elevate something. And
again, like I said, it's not that it was...there was a lot of potential there, but
ultimately, yeah, it ended up being a tricky movie. Uhhh, there was another
point that I was gonna say about that, but I can't remember what it was...
IGNFF: Actually, I was just trying to touch upon your range as an actress.
I mean a lot of young actresses these days get typecast as the vixen or
sexpot or the smart outsider or they just do the same kind of straight
drama over and over again. You've been able to be very chameleonic, you
know able to do something like Jaded where you go "Whoa! Time-out
now." And then you go "Hey, she was the wild girl getting a tattoo in Son
in Law and she was the informant in Snake Eyes. That is definitely
unique in that a lot of actors get stuck doing the same role over and over
again throughout their careers.
CG: Thank you. Totally. Yeah.
And you know what's interesting
about that is that I think for the
sort of "Who's Hot Now" thing,
fitting into a box really easily is
very advantageous. For having a
long career, one hopes, and this
is sorta what I base my choices
on, that if you do a variety of
things...you know, it's interesting
because it confuses some people
and they're not quite sure what to
do with you and other people,
thankfully, you know, appreciate the fact that you don't just play yourself, that
you can, in fact, transform into different characters. I find often in Hollywood
there are many people who play themselves really beautifully. And certain parts
are not that dissimilar from who you are as a person. And there are other parts
where you would like to think that you have nothing in common with those
characters, but you probably do have more than you think. It's interesting how
when you walk into a room in LA there's a sense of what you walk in, as is sort
of what you can do. So I spent a lot of time choosing different things to
hopefully show people that maybe that's not the case.
IGNFF: And it should be cool, too, in terms of maintaining your
anonymity.
CG: Yeah.
IGNFF: I mean I didn't know who you were by name. But once I had a list
of the films you've made in front of me, I totally knew who you were. I
think that's kinda cool, because I've actually bought into you as each of
the characters you've played rather than being "Oh, there's Carla G.
again."
CG: That's so good. I mean, I'm really happy with that. You know, the reality is
the only reason to have your name really well known is so that you have better
choice in projects. And for me, that's the only plus side of that. Eventually you
have to get to that point where people know who you are so you can green light
a movie or whatever. It's all those business aspects of things. But yeah, also it's
funny I have red, short hair in Spy Kids and now that I have long, brown hair,
you know, I look totally different. I saw Robert Rodriguez the other day and I
hadn't seen him for a few months and he was "Carla? I didn't recognize you."
And I was like "Okay, if you don't recognize me then I can certainly wander the
streets fine."
IGNFF: I hear that you're shooting what is tentatively called The One,
the new Joel Silver-produced Jet Li movie.
CG: Yeah, they asked me to do that and I didn't have to go through the
audition process, which was very cool. I play three characters. One of them is
sort of a mean vixen who detonates a bomb. Another one is I play the wife of
Jet in a different universe and he's a cop and I'm a veterinarian. There's small
action stuff, but I don't do any martial arts.
IGNFF: He didn't teach you any Shaolin crane style or other positions?
CG: No, no. You know, this is a man who's been doing it early on. I think
when he was like 11 he went and demonstrated for President Nixon. And he's
been doing it since he was like six. So I think the idea of teaching me a quick
move would probably be incredibly offensive [laughs]. So though I'm tempted
to ask I sort of decided [not to].
IGNFF: And he hasn't offered up any free lessons at this juncture, either,
I gather.
CG: No, he hasn't. He's a really amazing guy; he's a Buddhist and really just
sort of a very peaceful person. So really his martial arts come from a completely
different place than, you know, I would think. But, yeah, that movie they asked
me to do. It's nice, as time goes on to just sort of have [the luxury of not going
through the audition process]. And, hopefully, maybe that's what doing an array
of parts does for you.
IGNFF: Hey, did Robert sport
his little hat during the shoot?
CG: [laughs] His little fisherman
cap? Yep, yep. Which is so
funny, 'cause having done Snake
Eyes, you know, Brian DePalma
also wears like his khakis. Which
I've talked to people who
worked with Brian 1-, 15 years
ago and they asked "Is he still
wearin' the khakis?" And I said
"Yeah!" I don't know what it is
about directors; I guess it's whatever's the most comfortable for them [laughs].
IGNFF: You were easily in the best of the Pauly Shore movies...
CG: I had such a fun time. You know, it's funny because a lot of people really
love that movie and it's a movie that for me is not really that reflective of who I
am as an actor. And yet I would say that some of the most passionate fans that
I have are from that movie. People will come up to me and say, "I've seen that
20 times!" It's actually a fun story. He's a really funny guy and I think that's an
example of someone who maybe got into a rut of a certain kind of role, 'cause I
actually think that he's more versatile than what we've seen him do. We had a
great time. I was sort of trepidatious about doing that movie and then I went
and tested with him and he and I had such a fun time that I was like "Okay, I'll
do this movie." It was great. You know, Flea was in it; it was just a fun movie.
A long time ago, now.
IGNFF: Trepedatious, man, that earns bonus points.
CG: [laughs] Oh no! But I hate that when I read some sort of an interview and
it's like "Oh, like they didn't get that out of a thesaurus!" Did I use that word?
And I even used it without noticing. You know, I used to be made fun of as a
kid for being really articulate; it was sort of like a strange thing. I don't know
how it happened.
IGNFF: When you get locked down in a hotel like this doing the press
dog and pony show, what's the first thing you grab outta the mini-bar in
your room?
CG: Heh-heh-heh....well....let's
see...probably those roasted
cashews. Yeah, it would be
between them and the M&M's,
you know? But you gotta mix it
up, especially if you're travelling
from city to city, 'cause, you
know, too many M&M's gets a
little [much]. And then of course
if there's any sort of dark
chocolate around, that would be
my first choice over anything.
IGNFF: If you weren't acting, what would you be doing? And to tie into
that, what's the worst gig you've even had to do in order to squeak by
during lean times?
CG: I was really lucky to bypass that. I mean, lucky I guess, really lucky on that
level. I also sort of bypassed, like in a way, my teenage years, because I was so
obsessed with being a professional actor, so I missed probably a lot of fun. But
I started acting when I was 15 and I got emancipated and I was able to support
myself, which was amazing. I got some help until I did my first movie, which
was Troop Beverly Hills, which sort of got me enough money to say, "I'm not
moving back home, I'm living on my own." What else would I do? I don't
know, which is sort of the scary thing. I think at this point now, I would really
like to do more producing, as well. I think right now, probably for the next 10
years, I'm so excited to finally be at the age where I can play some of the roles
that I'm really excited to play. And play women and not girls. But that time for
actresses, as we all know, is relatively short in terms of the amount of roles that
come your way. I'm happy to be at the beginning of that period of time. But I
would like to be able to, in 15 or 20 years to be able to be doing more
producing because I do also find it to be part of the creative process. And it
doesn't matter so much how many wrinkles you have on your face and all that
kind of stuff. Ummm, yeah, I just sort of fell in love with acting. I know that
people have said it a lot "If there was something else I would be equally as good
at I might have, at really frustrating times decided to switch and do that," but
since I don't know what that is, I'm stuck with this! [laughs]