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Continued from Part 2,

1889

Chdn. 1889 pg. 57  Birmingham Miscellanies  Sister Annie Harris, who has until recently been meeting with the brethren in the Masonic Hall, has returned to our fellowship.

BIRMINGHAM MISCELLANIES

Chdn. 1889, pg. 122  Sister Hannah Kendrick has returned to our fellowship from the Masonic Hall.

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The following is yet another comment by bro. Roberts directly to the point.  How do you deal with the brother who is personally sound, but willing to fellowship those who are in error.  The Nicodemites answer is that we are not responsible, so we fellowship the sound brother regardless of who he associates with.  Note how that differs from the advice bro. Roberts gives, which is actually a quote from a letter written to a sister "years ago" which shows bro. Roberts views on this point have not changed.

ECCLESIAL NOTE

Chdn. 1889, pg. 265-266  A brother writes:—“I should be so glad if you would, in the next number of the Christadelphian , point out the inconsistency of brethren declaring themselves to be at one with us on the inspiration question, and yet fellowshipping those who do not so declare themselves,” and who, therefore, in view of the introduction and favourable reception of partial inspiration, leave their position open to a doubtfulness and uncertainty that interfere with that hearty fellowship that is based on identical submission to the ways of God.

We cannot better comply with this request than by reproducing the substance of a letter written a considerable time ago to a sister who was in a hesitating attitude:

You say our basis of fellowship ought to be ‘our mutual fellowship with Christ and acceptance with him.’ If we could be sure of such a basis, there would certainly be no cause for dispute, but how can this be? Who knows whom Christ regards as acceptable? Who can tell whom he accepts as in fellowship with him? He has not yet spoken on these questions, which he expressly reserves till our meeting in judgment. It would be a delightful rule of fellowship; but it does not exist, in the absence of a knowledge that Christ only possesses. The only practicable rule of fellowship is a common attitude of fealty to the truth as based upon, and including the fact, that the Bible is in our age the only source of knowledge as to what that truth is; and that it constitutes this source through being a writing wholly given by inspiration of God, and that such inspiration cannot err. If the friends you refer to will declare their faith in this, and their readiness to require its acceptance in their basis of fellowship, they will remove the obstacle that is in the way. If they will not, the responsibility of the breach rests with them. If they cannot, the fault is not with those who are unable to compromise the one truth which is the foundation of all other divine truth in our age. When, instead of gladly saying they believe the Bible to be wholly and unerringly divine, and that they will not receive in fellowship those who doubt it, they act the part of apologists and defenders of those who have sought to undermine its authority by teaching it is only partly inspired and characterised in many parts by error, what alternative have we but to stand aside? Actions are louder than words. Instead of uniting with the friends of the Bible, who contend for its truth against the whole Laodicean community from John O’ Groats to Land’s End, they try to thwart the efforts they have made to extract the leaven that has been placed in our midst, and employ every artifice and every opportunity of damaging their influence. It is for every man and woman to read the situation for themselves. It is a question on which there can be no compromise. If your friends hold the truth on this most vital matter, and are prepared to be faithful to it in fellowship, let them restore union by allowing the fact to be known. The remedy lies with them. If you identify yourself with them under present circumstances, you identify yourself with spiritual ambiguities that strike at the root of all spiritual health. You will not take us with you, but will leave us behind. Two cannot walk together, except they be agreed on fundamental principles. Those who occupy our position cannot be satisfied with anything short of divine certainties heartily endorsed. It is an evil thing to lessen the divinity of the Bible in any degree. If we say “Godspeed” to such a work, you know John’s declaration that we are partakers of the evil. It is not pleasant to be thus particular; but we have no choice. Paul commands us to hold fast what he taught, whether by word or epistle ( 2 Thess. 2:15 ). The complete inspiration of the scriptures is one of the things he taught ( 2 Tim. 3:15 ). He commands withdrawal from those who do not submit ( 2 Thess. 3:14 ). We must, therefore, act the disagreeable obligation of the present hour, or act in opposition to apostolic rule to which we profess to be subject.

You can easily settle the question of duty by proposing these interrogatories to your friends:—1. Do you believe the Bible to be wholly inspired of God? 2. Do you believe the Bible so inspired of God to be infallible? 3. Are you prepared to renounce the fellowship of all who teach or believe, or fellowship the doctrine, that it is only partly the work of inspiration; or who, believing it to be wholly the work of inspiration, believe that it is characterised by error? Right answers to these questions would remove not only your difficulty, but that of thousands of others.

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Reunion efforts between the Christadelphians and the separated brethren go on.  There are pages and pages of discussion between Temperance Hall and Masonic Hall in Birmingham.  None of it is recorded here, as the question of fellowship was not discussed.  Others are commonly reported, with varying degrees of success.  Often they are done on poor foundation, and as a result, met with skepticism, or outright rejection.  Kiddermister is among the earliest of these failed efforts.  The news of this reunion was treated as a withdrawal from both ecclesias.  Note that even though the issue of Inspiration could not, at the time, be resolved, there was no question that the Worcester brethren in Kidderminster were in fellowship with "the Masonic Hall" brethren, which was the new location/name of the "New Street" brethren, and so the reunion was treated by the Christadelphian, as another division, neither side being fellowshipped.

KIDDERMINSTER

Chdn. 1889, pg. 558  Brother Kimberlin having announced the accomplishment of a re-union among those here separated on the question of inspiration, brother Walker wrote as follows:—“You say . . . ‘a meeting was held at which it was shown that your views were similar on all matters essential to salvation.’ In view of the question at issue, this is not distinct enough. Do the Worcester Street brethren with you believe (1) that the Bible is wholly-inspired of God; (2) and that it is therefore infallible; and (3) will they with you, so believing, refuse fellowship to those who believe otherwise, or who, while themselves believing this, would fellowship disbelievers. An affirmative answer to these questions . . . would be something that the Christadelphian could publish with thankfulness and confidence.” Brother Kimberlin replies—“We have on more than one occasion heartily avowed our belief in the entire inspiration and infallibility of the Bible, from which we have not departed. Of course you know the ecclesia has not assented to the resolution adopted by the Temperance Hall brethren, but practically our basis is the same.”—The Kidderminster brethren are in fellowship with the brethren in the Masonic Hall, Birmingham, whose position on the question of inspiration is made clear by the correspondence appearing elsewhere in this issue. Their basis is therefore not “practically the same” for while professing “belief in the entire inspiration and infallibility of the Bible” they fellowship those who declare emphatically that the Bible is not “infallible in every jot and tittle,” or who, in other words profess belief in an entire inspiration that is not absolutely “entire” at all, a position that will destroy confidence in the Bible in proportion as it is logically adhered to.—C. C. W.

LEICESTER

Chdn. 1889, pg. 601  Brother Gamble writes:—“If no intelligence from Leicester has reached you for some months past, it is not because we are asleep or grown weary in the Lord’s work, but rather because we have had so little to report in the ordinary way of intelligence; in fact, so far as adding to our numbers is concerned, we appear to have come to a decided halt. Since our last, brother and sister Herne and brother Burton have resigned fellowship and returned to those who tolerate partial inspiration.

Chdn. 1889, pg. 603  Writing later, (in November) he says:—“We still continue to hold forth the Word of Life in this place to the very few who attend. Sister Brown (who has been separated from us for about three years on the partial inspiration question), has returned to our fellowship. She said in answer to our questions that she had ‘no sympathy whatever with partial inspirationists,’ and that she would abide by our constitution, which was a source of joy to us all. The ecclesia has found it necessary to withdraw from brother and sister Chilton, for maintaining their belief that Paul was not inspired to say that women should not speak in the ecclesia.

Chdn. 1889, pg. 604  N. Q.—We are not quite aware of the position of the Birkenhead ecclesia. We rather think they are in fellowship with the jot and tittle objectors of the Masonic Hall, and not with us at the Temperance Hall. They would doubtless inform you on application.

IRVINE

Chdn. 1889, pg, 35-36  Although you have not been receiving any intelligence from us for some time, we are still rejoicing in the hope. We were cheered with a visit from brother Shuttleworth, on his way from Glasgow to Kilmarnock. He delivered a lecture in the Town Hall on the 24th October, subject: “The Grand Old Bible.” There was not a large attendance of the alien, but we were much edified ourselves, also a number of brethren from Kilmarnock. I have also to report the return to us of a number of brethren and one sister, who left us some time ago in sympathy with those that tolerate the doctrine of partial inspiration. Also brother Colter, who was recently immersed with those who meet in the Institute Hall, has seen his way clear to our position, and is now in fellowship with us Matthew Nisbet .

1890

Chdn 1890, pg.  33  From Birmingham Miscellanies 

Brother Priest has united himself with the jot and tittle objectors of the Masonic Hall, after a vain attempt to dissuade him from so unwise a step. He said he liked the people better. If this is a good reason, some of us would soon be in the Church of England. We must be faithful to the honour of God’s word whatever present company it may commit us to.

Chdn. 1890, pg. 38  Hamilton .—Brother Parkin reports that brother and sister Scragg have left this city, and gone to the States Their address is 1037, Locust Street, Makeesport, Pa. they would be pleased to know if there are any of the household of faith near to them. If so, they would be glad if such would call at the above address. Brother Williams, of Waterloo, has been visiting here. During his visit he submitted a resolution to the meeting, which was as follows:—“Whereas, there is dissatisfaction on the part of some of the members of this ecclesia in regard to our position in relation to the question of fellowship with believers in partial and fallible inspiration, and whereas, we desire to remove all barriers to pure fellowship upon the question involved, we hereby unreservedly express our belief that the Scriptures of the New and Old Testaments as originally given by and through the Deity, were wholly inspired, and therefore infallible in all their parts; and we further state that we will not knowingly fellowship any who believe otherwise.”—This resolution was adopted, but brother Parkin says that immediately afterwards some of the brethren expressed themselves as believers in partial inspiration, which made him feel that he and sister Parkin had no alternative but to stand aside. We hope there is some misunderstanding about this.

Chdn. 1890, pg. 42  J. E. J.—We have no knowledge of a meeting in Edinburgh that refuses to fellowship partial inspiration.

DUNDEE

Chdn. 1890 pg 73  I am happy to inform you that sister George A. Terras, from Cupar, Fife, has come to reside here. She is anxious to cast in her lot with those who believe in a wholly-inspired Bible. Consequently she requests you to state, through the Christadelphian , that henceforth she ceases to Fellowship those who hold on to a doubtful position in this question. She herself repudiates the doctrine of partial inspiration, and believes the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament were wholly inspired, as originally given.— Thomas Mitchell .

CUPAR FIFE

Chdn. 1890 pg 116  We, the undersigned brethren and sisters meeting in Cupar Fife, desire it to be made known through the Christadelphian that we repudiate the doctrine of partial inspiration, and believe that the Scriptures are the inspired and infallible Oracles of the Deity throughout, and do refuse fellowship to all that believe otherwise.— James Brown, John Young, Mrs. Isabella Walker, Maggie Walker .

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Bro. Thomas Williams published an article in his magazine, which urged the incredible care and concern we must have for the ecclesia.  Bro. Roberts printed the article as it raises many important points that faithful brethren are anxious to observed.  But it also overstated certain points, points which eventually resulted in bro. Williams leaving the faithful path, himself.  One of those related to his handling of Paul's dealing with the ecclesia at Corinth.

Chdn. 1890, pg. 172-174

Remarks on the Foregoing

Every spiritually-minded brother and sister will cordially respond to the definition of the ecclesial institution as a divine tabernacle, pitched “in the midst of a waste howling wilderness of unenlightened humanity;” and all such will cry a hearty “Amen!” at the suggestion of “almost inexhaustible patience and carefulness” in our dealing with such an institution. Yet some care is needed in the deductions we draw from Paul’s attitude to the Corinthian ecclesia. Some have argued on that attitude in a way to nullify his express directions in other cases, which can never be intended by the writer of the foregoing remarks.

Paul had authority as an apostle which he could use with decisive effect in case of need. It was authority he had received “not for destruction but for edification” as he said: but still it was authority which he was prepared to use, “since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me.” ( 11 Cor. 13:3 .) He could say “if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man and have no company with him.” ( 11 Thes. 3:14 .) We all know that men having authority in any matter to fall back upon, are naturally patient and gentle to a degree not so easy where there is nothing but argument and equal influence to set against the teaching of opposition. This has to be considered in judging of Paul’s tone and attitude towards an eeclesia in so corrupt a state as the Corinthians. But as to the right attidude towards such corruptions in the abstract, we must gather them where that is the subject in hand.

Paul recognised the original character of the Corinthian ecclesia as “God’s building,” and argued against the various corruptions and doctrine and practice that prevailed at the time of his writing. But he did not mean that these corruptions were to be disregarded in fellowship. On the contrary; in the case of fornication referred to, he said “ Put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” ( 1 Cor. 5:13 .) He found fault with them at their indifference, and that they had not “rather mourned that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from you ” (verse 2 .) His argument goes powerfully against retaining such: “Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven .” (verse 6 .)

When he says “Judge nothing before the time” ( 1 Cor. 4:5 ), he is speaking of the brethren’s personal judgment of himself—a thing forbidden concerning all brethren, and a thing that cannot accurately be done. He is not speaking of ecclesial attitude to wrong doing. He does not mean that we are to shut our eyes to manifest disobedience or denial of the truth in our own midst. On the contrary, he makes the enquiry as if to something well understood and notorious:—“Do ye not judge them that are within?” ( 1 Cor. 5:12 ) that is, in the cognisance of manifest evil-doing, to the extent of refusing to eat with any man called a brother who is a fornicator, &c. (verse 11 ). So, though he argues with some who denied the resurrection, we are not to conclude that he regarded such a denial as compatible with a continuance of fellowship if persisted in. We must judge on this point by expressions directed expressly to the question of how error persisted in is to be dealt with. On this, he does not speak ambiguously. Even to the Corinthians, referring to an approaching third visit, he expresses the fear that he should be found such as they would not like. He only writes in the tenour of apparent toleration, “lest,” says he, “being present, I should use sharpness according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification and not to destruction” ( 2 Cor. 13:10 ). “Shall I,” enquires he, “come unto you with a rod, or in love and in the spirit of meekness? ( 1 Cor. 4:21 ). “Being absent now, I write to them which heretofore have sinned and to all other, that if I come again, I will not spare ” ( 2 Cor. 13:2 ).

In other epistles, the indications are quite explicit (and it cannot be that he contemplated our ignoring what he says in one epistle because of what he has said in another). To Timothy, he plainly says, “Withdraw thyself” ( 1 Tim. 6:5 ) from a class of professors whom he describes as “proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words,” who “consent not to wholesome words even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ.” He also says: “Avoid profane and vain babblings and oppositions of science falsely so called, which some professing have erred concerning the faith” (verse 20 ). He also advises him to shun certain “babblings” personated by Hymenæus and Philetus, “ who concerning the truth have erred, saying the resurrection is past already .” To Titus he says, “A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition, reject” ( 3:10 ). To the Romans: “Mark them who cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned and avoid them ” ( 16:17 ). John speaks plainly to the same effect: “If any man bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house” ( 2 Jno. 9–10 .) And the messages of Jesus to the seven Asian ecclesias are all more or less in the same strain.

It is all according to reason; for if we were at liberty to ignore departure from the faith and practice of the Gospel, it would certainly happen in the long run that both must vanish from our midst. Friendliness would indispose a man to be critical; decay would set in as the result of the indifference. Thus the ecclesia would prove the reverse of the pillar and ground of the truth. No community can ever hold together that winks at the denial of its own principles. It cannot be that the foregoing article is intended to advocate such a thing, or to inculcate anything opposed to something so obviously scriptural and reasonable as the maintenance of the faith and practice of the Gospel by the refusal of fellowship where they are denied.

What must be intended is the discountenance of individual secession from an ecclesia on insufficient grounds. Against this mistake, the argument is powerful, and will be upheld by every discriminating friend of the truth. We perpetrate a wrong against Christ if we separate ourselves from his brethren on the ground of some personal grievance against one or more in their midst. There is a right remedy for this; and if from any cause, we cannot apply it, let us forbear. In such things, we are to practice the “almost inexhaustible patience and care” spoken of, and even in matters of error, we must be quite sure the wrong is espoused, and give every one an opportunity of repudiating the wrong, before we resort to the extreme and irrevocable remedy of separation, by which we throw the issue entirely on the final judgment of Christ. There may be cases in which we have no alternative, but it is far better if we can settle differences before we meet Him.

Editor.

 

HUDDERSFIELD

Chdn. 1890 pg 196   We are glad to report the increase of our Ecclesia by the return of brother Walker Beevers, latterly in fellowship with the tolerationist meeting. We received this letter from him:—“March 9th.—Dear Brother Heywood,—I am wishful to be in fellowship with your Ecclesia, being fully convinced I have been in fellowship with those that countenance partial inspiration.—Yours in the one hope, Walker Beevers .” (Brother Heywood narrates circumstances proving the allegation contained in brother Beever’s letter.)—I am also pleased to report the immersion into Christ of Eusebia Cheetham , daughter of brother F. Cheetham, also of my daughter, Rose Heywood . There is much comfort in having our children walking with us in the wisdom of the Word.

Chdn. 1890, pg. 233  from Birmingham Miscellanies 

We hear that brother Joseph Dorricott, who has not met with us since the turmoil caused by the sugar collapse, has united himself with the jot and tittle objectors of the Masonic Hall. (By the way, we do not use this designation in any contemptuous sense. God forbid that we should show contempt to any man. But we must be correct in our descriptions. “Brethren” simply and purely would be misleading, because this implies faithfulness to the word of God; which cannot be affirmed of those who hesitate to say the Bible is wholly inspired and infallible. They object to be called partial inspirationists, but they do say inspiration does not extend to “every jot and tittle.” Consequently, they ought not to object to a designation which literally embodies their own contention. We wish we could please them without sacrificing truth and duty. The Lord will judge between us presently.)

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Bro. Roberts makes an interesting comment about an event which took place in Birmingham, at a park, between the Christadelphians and the Partial Inspirationists..  It shows the seriousness of the division which had taken place five years previous.

Chdn. 1890, pg. 273  From Birmingham Miscellanies  "A large and interesting tea meeting on Whit-Monday was preceded by a rambling visit on the part of a few to Sutton Park, where they spent a season in scripture reading and conversation in the quiet seclusion of the “North dell.” While so engaged, a number of those separated from us on the question of inspiration assembled on the other side of the little valley and sang “Brethren let us walk together.” It was very pretty, but misplaced. If there had been music for the Scripture words “How can two walk together except they be agreed?” we might have responded. Any other response would have been unsuitable, so we remained silent. Union has to be spiritual before it can be social.—In the evening, an unusually excellent meeting took place in the Temperance Hall. Brother and Sister A. T. Jannaway were present from London. Brother Jannaway much edified the meeting in an address on “Holiness,” the topic chosen for the evening’s meditation.—Brother Shuttleworth made some excellent remarks on the eve of sailing for Canada, where he has since safely arrived, if we may judge from the shipping telegrams."

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Bro. Roberts is again challenged to debate by bro. Hadley in the Visitor magazine and bro. Roberts declines.

Chdn. 1890, 274-275  Dear Brother Hadley ,—Thank you for the “proof” of your article, which I might not otherwise have seen, being too busy to read all the printed matter that comes through the Post.

Your remarks, I fear, leave matters exactly as they were. It is natural for you to object to a description conveying unfavourable implications; but verbal repudiation, however earnest, will not get rid of the sore. There is a method of getting rid of it, and it would be to me a great joy if that method were practicable for you and those with you. Get rid of the thing causing the description. The phrase, “jot and tittle” in this connection is not mine. It is your own (speaking of you all in a collective sense). It was used hundreds of times during the unhappy friction that ended in our separation, and was even formally employed in the recent correspondence; “not every jot and tittle? What about Paul’s cloak? What about this? What about that? Not every jot and tittle.” Such was the constant refrain. Have you changed in this? If so, there might be some hope of an end to the strife. If not it is idle to hope to gloss over the grievous issue. We cannot shut our eyes to the connection of the thing. The phrase, and the arguments buzzing around it were all used in defence of the view that had been introduced into our midst, that the Bible was only partly inspired, and that there was error in it; that its histories were not necessarily reliable, &c. We asked you to repudiate these views. You refused. You defended the men and the papers that advocated them. We had no alternative but to step aside from you. We did not cast you out. We have no power to do this. Whatever casting out has taken place has been your own act, due to your inability to unite in the position we were obliged to take. As soon as we are of one mind, nothing will be easier than to come together again, or at least to walk together as two bodies in fellowship. As soon as this unity is attained, I am prepared to submit to any personal censure as to the mode of separation employed. I am sure the censure will be very mild at the hands of those who are zealous for the word of God in this day of its extreme dishonour. But even if it is severe, I will make no difficulty on that head when you are prepared to allow the wholly inspired and infallible character of the Bible, not excepting even jots and tittles.

You deceive yourselves if you think it is a question of “human definitions” that is keeping us apart. It is meanings—not words, that are at issue. Our contention is that, by whatever mode, the whole Bible is the production of the Spirit of God in the men who wrote it, and therefore infallible in its jots and tittles. You do not agree with us as to this question of fact , and there is the trouble. If you did, our trouble would end: but as you do not, it would make it pleasanter on all sides if you would recognise the issue in its own honest character, and not maintain the issue and in the same breath contend there is no issue, as you do when you say, “We believe the Bible is wholly inspired, but not every jot and tittle.” This is like saying, “We believe the Bible is all-inspired, but not all inspired.”

Our resolutions have not been framed for the purpose of “shutting out” men at all, but for the purpose of shutting out the false and dangerous doctrines advocated by them. We were obliged to mention names for the sake of identifying the doctrines. Only those who sympathised with the doctrines could make any objection to this apostolic method:—“of who is Hymenæ is and Philetus.” It was no indifferent matter to us, however it might be with others, that there should be lurking among us a theory that undermines the authority of the written word of God, upon which alone, in this day of His hidden face, we stand.

It is not a question of Temperance Hall and Masonic Hall as to individual deserts. We judge no man. But in our spiritual relations we have to note the attitudes of men. We have to take men at their professions, provided their professions are not self-stultified. Whatever deficiencies there may be among the Temperance Hall brethren, they are prepared to affirm their belief in the wholly inspired and infallible character of the Bible, including all its jots and tittles. The Masonic Hall brethren are not prepared to do this. They say “not every jot and tittle,” and therefore “jot and tittle objectors” is their accurate description. To say that there are no particular jots and tittles that they object to, does not mend matters. On the contrary it makes matters worse; it makes all the jots and tittles uncertain. It makes the disease universal instead of limited.

You are comforted that some find you “not so bad as represented.” We have not spoken evil of you at all. We say you take such a position with regard to the Scriptures as to suggest doubt with regard to their divine character in all particulars. This is the plain issue, which no amount of elegant periphrasis can conceal. If imputing error to the Bible is no crime in the eyes of the common run of men, it is one of the worst of crimes in the eyes of all who seek to be the sons of God: unless it be exceeded by the doctrine that makes void the commandments of Christ.

Your proposal for platform controversy is very extraordinary. The cry is that you believe exactly as we do. If you do, why should you propose discussion? What is there to debate about? If you do not, why, after five years’ leisurely and deliberate consideration of the question; each man for himself; should we hope for any benefit from the heat of personal collision? Why subject the truth to the public shame, and its friends to the personal distress of a bootless wrangle among its professors? There is a time for everything. The time for debate is when good is to be done. There are men ready for strife and debate under all circumstances. We do not belong to them. We refuse to make sport for the Philistines.

Your request to have your relation defined is natural. It is not our fault if the definition must be unpleasing to you. You are allied with those who have cast a slur on the word of God by imputing error to it, and alleging its possible historical inaccuracy. Because of this, even if your own hands were quite clean of the transgression, an accursed thing is in your camp, which debars those who are striving to be the friends of God (much to their sorrow, though you may not believe it), from making alliance with you or wishing you God speed. If in this, we are wrong, we shall be reproved at the judgment seat; though we cannot help believing the Lord will be merciful to an over zeal (if it be such), having its root in regard for our obligations to him alone. If we are right, your position is one of great danger, and possible reprobation.

We should greatly desire that the embarrassment should end in your frank acceptance of the position which we regard as the only tenable one. Your answers to the following questions might end the strife.

1. Are you now prepared to repudiate the views of Bible authorship propounded and defended by brethren Ashcroft and Chamberlin over five years ago?

2. Do you believe that all parts of the Bible have been produced or compiled by the Holy Spirit in the writers,—the small matters as well as the great; and that the fact of such production or compilation secures infallibility in the expression of the meanings aimed at by the divine authorship?

3. Are you prepared to require the admission of this fact in all who claim or enjoy your fellowship?—Faithfully yours, Robert Roberts .

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We wrote earlier about Cardiff, how they had affirmed their position in harmony with Birmingham, but it was soon discovered that they continued to visit other ecclesias where there were errorists.  Bro. Roberts ceased fellowship, despite their affirmations.  Cardiff remained out of fellowship as shown by the following Intelligence, four years later.  Note how much the actions of Cardiff sound like the actions of some Central ecclesias.  They sooth their consciences by first reading a statement (like "We meet on the BASF") and then they discard all concern for the matter, even when it is clear that individuals who attend do not meet on the BASF, or such individuals translate the BASF in such a way as to nullify its doctrines, or such individuals may personally meet on the BASF, but are willing to fellowship those who do not.

CARDIFF

Chdn. 1890, pg. 276  Having obtained employment for a few months in Cardiff, I have removed here from Birmingham to find myself in complete isolation in the Truth. There was formerly an ecclesia in Cardiff, as reports in the back numbers of The Christadelphian will show, but it took the wrong side on the inspiration question.--E. Grimes

 

The above letter (pg. 276) brought the following response from bro. Hadley, along with the answer from bro. Roberts.  It is not really relevant to our discussion, but does exhibit the insistence the brethren had, that the truth remained pure, within the ecclesia.  Bro. Hadley's explanations would be accepted on face value by any brother.  But bro. Roberts was not willing to ignore the five years history they already had, and therefore what appears good on the face of it all, was rejected.

Chdn. 1890 pg. 315  

THE ‘JOTS AND TITTLES”

We have received a long letter from brother Hadley, in rejoinder to our remarks last month on his article. The material part, so far as the readers of the Christadelphian are concerned, is his answer to the three questions with which our remarks closed. This answer is as follows:—

“With regard to the first, which relates to the views of Bible authorship propounded and defended by brethren Ashcroft and Chamberlain, I say that if their views were what they represented them to be, I and many others are prepared to repudiate them very strongly. I did not, however, understand them in the same sense as you did; but even as I understood them I should consider that in some respects they went beyond what was defensible. I have never given unqualified endorsement to what the brethren named wrote, and the Masonic Hall brethren as an ecclesia have been careful not to do so. They have distinctly refused to be Ashcroftites or Chamberlainites, as brethren Ashcroft and Chamberlain would, I am sure, be ready to testify. I may further remind you that the support of their publications was insufficient to justify their continuance. On the whole, I do not think we can be held responsible for the views of those brethren. Some of the utterances of the Æon were strongly reprobated by leading brethren amongst us.

“Your second question is, ‘Do you believe that all parts of the Bible have been produced or compiled by the Holy Spirit in the writers; the small matters as well as the great, and that the fact of such production or compilation secures infallibility in the expression of the meanings aimed at by the divine authorship?’ Unless I was perfectly clear that this was not intended to mean the absolute verbal infallibility of the Bible (which to me is as yet not conclusively proved), I should hesitate to answer ‘yes’ to this question. I should prefer to answer in a slightly different form, which I submit meets every apostolic requirement. I prefer to say: I believe that (save and except all few passages of doubtful authenticity) the whole of the Bible was written by men who were enlightened by the direct operation of the Holy Spirit. I believe also that the Spirit helped them in the production and compilation of the books they left us, and that those books are infallible (or perfect) in the expression of the meanings God intended His prophets and apostles to convey to us. As to whether more than this ought to be affirmed, I reserve my judgment, there being some difficulties in the way of the verbal infallibility hypothesis which I do not see my way to overcome.

“Having thus unreservedly answered this second question, is it too much to ask you to point out any scriptural reason to show that my ‘inability’ to go further is a reason for being shut out of fellowship as being unfaithful to the Scriptures?

“The answer to question 3 is practically involved in what has gone before. I and those who are with me do require as a condition of fellowship, not indeed accord with some single definition, but a substantial recognition of the fact that the prophets, apostles, and evangelists spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit, and that therefore their message to us is God’s message.”

Remarks

These answers are more apparently satisfactory than really so. They do not repudiate the views of Bible authorship introduced by brethren Ashcroft and Chamberlain. They raise the question as to what those views were, and by implication charge misrepresentation on those who recognised them in their actual and intended character. This can yield no satisfactory basis of understanding. A frank recognition and rectification of the cause of separation is the only course containing hope of re-union.

The hesitation to say “Yes,” to question No. 2, is far from satisfactory. The substituted definition does not mean the same, or it would not be put forward in its place. Manifestly, it does not mean the same. It makes man the author of the Scriptures, with the Holy Spirit as a helper, which did not help to the extent of excluding error. This is the crucial point on which there can be no compromise. The Bible as a possibly erring book is a different Bible from the Bible that we recognise as a writing from the hand of God by man, which infallibly expressed his meaning.

We are asked to re-open the question for full debate in the pages of the Christadelphian . There is more than one good reason against this course. We are in the shadow of the Lord’s coming. It is not the business of the professed disciples at such a time to be discussing to what extent the Bible is divine. They should bend their whole strength to the work of drinking into its spirit, conforming to its requirements, and yielding to its influence in the hundred ways that belong to the high calling. All that is necessary for the reasonable and sufficient debate of the question has been done. Brother Andrew’s pamphlet on inspiration is itself sufficient for all purposes. The Christadelphian for 1884–5 and 6 contains what more may be considered needful for earnest minds. Anything further would be repetition. And anything further would be futile. Experience shews that when certain minds begin to handle subtle questions, their argument degenerates to a mere pulling of india-rubber backwards and forwards. “Argumentative conference” of this kind may be very entertaining to such as find pleasure in contention—(and there are such: it is no uncharity to recognise facts)—but it has no attractions for those who are earnestly bent on the divine purposes of this bitter probation. For ourselves, personally, we are toilsomely engaged (more and more) to an extent that quite precludes the possibility of our entering upon a work which seems so entirely a work of supererogation. We are up to the neck in the real work the Bible has been sent to do. Debating about how much divine the Bible is, would divert us from this work, and even if conducted successfully would leave the real work to be begun when we had finished. No, no; we have had enough of that. If our separated brethren are prepared to join us in this, in the real and loyal work of the truth, we should be ready to give their proposal a thankful consideration; but it must be on an understanding that imputes no error to the Bible—a crime for which no amount of identical knowledge or hope will atone.— Editor .

CARDIFF

Chdn. 1890 pg 316-317  On Sunday evening, the 13th July, after the lecture, a protest was made against my remark in Intelligence last month, “that they took the wrong side on the inspiration question;” the fact being, they say that they did not take sides at all, and that they have never been troubled by the question in their midst. For their own protection, however, against any brethren who might visit them, and who might be partial inspirationists, they agreed to the following resolution, which they read out before the breaking of bread whenever any strange brethren visit them: “We believe the Bible to be a true representation of the original Scriptures as given by the inspiration of God; and we desire the fellowship of those only who agree with this definition.” They say further, that the reason no intelligence has appeared in the Christadelphian from them has been, not because they were in sympathy with “the other side,” but because the editor refused to insert any until they had adopted the Birmingham declaration; and after a time—not liking to be left altogether out in the cold—they sent their intelligence to the Visitor .— E. Grimes .

(Our correspondent is mis-informed. It is not a question of “the Birmingham declaration”—on which we have never insisted. It is a question of the doctrine avowed in that declaration. There are various ways of expressing this. So that it is expressed, it does not matter about the form. The definition above quoted does not express it. It is worded in a way that steers clear of it. There is not a partial inspirationist the world o’er who would not say amen to it. To call it “a protection against partial inspiration” is therefore a delusion. “The Scriptures as given by the inspiration of God,” leaves it an open question what this was—whether it was a complete inspiration or a partial inspiration, and whether the inspiration in the case was an inspiration that could err, or one that we could trust to as infallible. Unitarians and others who believe that man is inspired as well as the Bible, could easily adopt such a definition, which makes everything of the question of whether our English Bible is a true translation, and nothing of whether the Word of God as originally delivered in Hebrew and Greek was a divine and infallible thing or not. When men refuse to let their meanings be known, a form of words is of no use. Look at the effect in the present case. Ambiguous words keep off the friends of the Bible. If their meaning is right, why not let it be know? “Because they don’t want to take sides.” If this is the object, their plan is a failure; for taking no side, they have in fact taken sides against those who are on the side of the Bible without ambiguity. Besides, what man will not, in the presence of Christ at his coming, be ashamed at not “taking sides” with His dishonoured word. Let the Cardiff trumpet give a certain sound, and the true soldiers else where will know what to do.— Editor .

HUDDERSFIELD

Chdn. 1890 pg 317  Brother Heywood reports the obedience of Mrs. Shaw (40), of Lindley, who, after a careful search into the truth, confessed the same, and was immersed on Wednesday last, making the present number of brethren and sisters 34. Others are interested, and seeking the kingdom of God. (Brother Heywood calls attention to the fact that brother Morton, whose visit to the Middlesbrough ecclesia was noticed last month, is not in fellowship with those who have made a stand against partial inspiration.)

CARDIFF

Chdn. 1890, pg. 356

On Sunday, August 10th, after the lecture, a meeting of the ecclesia was called (at which not more than half the members attended) to consider and decide upon an amended declaration as a basis of fellowship, which had been proposed by myself. In this declaration, the Scriptures, as originally given by God, were recognised as wholly inspired and infallible in all their parts, and our Bible accepted as a fair representation of these Scriptures, and a requirement made that assent to the above be given by all seeking their fellowship. The presiding brother announced that the managing brethren recommended that no change be made in the existing resolution. It was proposed by brother Collins, and seconded by brother Searles (their secretary), that my resolution be adopted. An amendment was proposed and seconded that no change be made. This amendment was adopted, with three dissentients, after a desultory discussion, in which it came out that the managing brethren were perfectly contented with the existing state of things, and considered a change now would be a reflection upon the past, and that a great objection was felt to the introduction of the word “infallible,” because it “emanated from Birmingham, and was not a Bible term.” And so we have the melancholy spectacle of brethren professing privately their belief in a wholly inspired and infallible Bible, stultifying themselves as an ecclesia, and proving conclusively thereby that their professed belief in the infallibility of the Scriptures is at least not very deep-seated. We shall now endeavour (God willing) to establish an ecclesia in Cardiff upon a proper basis. For the last two months I have antagonised the Mormons (who have a considerable following here), and the noisy, frothy members of the Y.M.C.A., and proclaimed the Truth every Sunday evening (when the weather permitted) in a large open space in Canton Street, to big crowds who had never heard it before, and much interest has been excited and opposition provoked by the clear, plain statements of the Bible. May Yahweh grant that the seed sown bring forth fruit to His honour and glory, and that the Son of His love be quickly revealed, taking vengeance on His enemies, and rewarding His servants the prophets and them that fear his Name.— E. Grimes .

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MIDDLESBROUGH

Chdn. 1890, pg. 358  Brother Robinson reports that circumstances here have compelled the brethren to adopt a resolution withdrawing from all who practice a loose fellowship with regard to the inspiration of the Scriptures. For a long time they were free of the trouble, but recently some claiming fellowship have taken the position of saying they belong to neither inspiration nor partial inspiration. Brother Robinson says they cannot consent to this. “Those who are not for us are against us.” For more information he refers to Christadelphian for December, 1884.

TREORKY (RHONNDA)

Chdn. 1890, pg. 399  Brother W. Lander is not responsible for the lateness of the subjoined intelligence. It was sent in time for publication in the last number of the Christadelphian , but certain enquiries had to be made before the way seemed editorially clear for the insertion of the communication from Morriston. Such delays and enquiries are exceedingly distasteful to the editor, he can assure all concerned; but they are unavoidable where any doubt arises as to the basis of action. It is a relief and a joy to discover there was no ground for them in this case. An impression having arisen that the Morriston ecclesia was not on a footing to allow of hearty fellowship on the part of those who are resolved to maintain the wholly-inspired character of the Bible, one of the brethren in the Rhonnda Valley wrote to the said ecclesia, and received the following answer (dated July 1st, 1890):—“We received your letter of 12th June last, enclosing a printed copy of the Temperance Hall Ecclesia, Birmingham, Statement of Faith, dated 1886, in due course; and in order to satisfy your brethren on the question asked in your letter, as to whether we, as an ecclesia, or any brother or brethren amongst us, hold views different to the above Statement of Faith, a meeting of our brethren was convened, and the statement was read carefully through, and we are now able to inform your brethren that we found nothing in it but what we could readily endorse, and for your guidance in the future we wish to add that the following resolution was put to our meeting and carried unanimously, viz.:—‘That inasmuch as that the Statement of Faith of the Temperance Hall Ecclesia, Birmingham, dated 1886, is a correct and concise statement of the things believed in and taught by us, that we now adopt the same in its entirety, as the Statement of Faith of the Morriston Ecclesia. And that in the future it be clearly understood by the Rhonnda brethren, and all other ecclesias, that in the case of any brother, or brethren, visiting us on the occasion of the breaking of bread, that our officials, if they deem it necessary, are authorised to examine such carefully, and to be satisfied as to their standing in the truth, and especially as regards their belief in a wholly-inspired Bible.’ And now, while believing that our standing in the truth is identical with those meeting with you at present, we hope in concluding that you will, when an occasion arises, take the necessary steps to dispel from the minds of all the true brethren of Christ any erroneous views which they may entertain concerning our brethren.—We remain, dear brother, yours fraternally, for the Morriston Christadelphian Ecclesia, John T. Jones , Secretary.

In answer to further enquiry, the following answer was received by brother Lander:—“Yours of 22nd inst. came duly to hand, and, in reply, I have to say that we cannot have anything to do with the Drill Hall brethren, Swansea, or the Masonic Hall brethren, Birmingham, as long as they take the stand they do.”

Brother Lander adds the following items:—

Since the opening of the Rhondda and Swansea Bay Tunnel, the brethren and sisters wishing to visit this district can now go direct to Aberavon, Port Talbot, and Swansea.

Brother Philip Phillips and sister, wife and family has arrived here safely, and are now residing at Tynewydd, near Treherbert. The brethren of Scammonville (United States) ecclesia will be glad to hear of their safe arrival here. They will be a welcome addition to the few in the one faith residing in Rhondda Valley, Brother Peter Graham, of the above ecclesia, came on a visit to this country with brother Phillips. We enjoyed his short stay with us. He exhorted us at the breaking of bread on Sunday, 6th of July, which we all enjoyed. After visiting bonnie Scotland and musical Wales, brother Graham has started for his home, where we hope he may safely arrive.

[Bro. Philip Phillips is my Great-grandfather, who came from the Rhondda Valley, lived in Chicago, Kansas, and then went back to the Rhondda Valley.  He ultimately returned to Canton Ohio.] 

Chdn. 1890, pg. 440

B. W.—“Progress” is a nice watchword, but it is possible to mistake retrogression for progression. This mistake is being made by all who regard partial inspiration and the loosing of the bonds and conditions of fellowship as evidence of progress. We are not ashamed to profess our identity with the standfast party. Why should we move away from what we are certain about? And do you think, if we were not certain, that we should stand aloof from popular circles into which we have many times been invited? Do you say we cannot be certain? Then we differ. There is an ever-learning and never attaining class—ever-debating and never settling—at home in endless froth-plungings like dogs in a puddle. They were extant in Paul’s day; they have not ceased since; they are active now. If you cannot recognise them, we do not quarrel with you; but we cannot deny our own senses. We must perforce exercise the prerogative of discrimination, and, knowing the right road in the dark, take it.

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Chdn. 1891

Reunion efforts take a front and center role in 1891, now six years since the start of the controversy.  A lengthy discussion comes from the intelligence from Bristol, which demonstrates what the division really was, and how thorough it was.  There are many things that go directly against the arguments of the Nicodemites as to the history of the truth here, but note especially that the brethren joining the Temperance Hall group, had to disassociate from the Masonic Hall group (originally called New Street) as a condition of fellowship even though they had testified that the Masonic Hall group had no one in it who believes partial inspiration.

BRISTOL

Chdn. 1891, pg. 28

Brother Bradley reports at some length the particulars of a re-union effected with the ecclesia meeting at Oddfellows’ Hall, in Rupert Street, from whom separation was made four years since in connection with the inspiration controversy. Brother Bradley speaks of it as “the cheering and encouraging turn that Christadelphian life has taken in Bristol.” The following are the principal features of the report:—“The two ecclesias have held five meetings together, at which the position of each has been fully and clearly stated and understood. The Oddfellows’ Hall ecclesia were almost unanimous in their belief of a wholly-inspired Bible, and the few objections made as to Paul’s cloak, Paul’s independent advice to brethren upon marrying, and a few other similar cases were fully argued and satisfactorily explained by the brethren of both ecclesias. Recognising the ‘divers manners’ in which it has pleased God to speak through the prophets and Jesus Christ, we had no difficulty in speedily disposing of an imagination which the brethren had innocently regarded as a fact, namely, that we believed the Scriptures to be inspired only in one particular way, by what is called verbal dictation. The verbal inspiration of the Scriptures is not a question of one way, but of divers manners or ways. The Holy Spirit exercises a guiding or controlling influence which excludes errror. The perfection of the whole being impossible without the perfection of its parts, reasonably excludes even the barest probability of any kind of discrepancy finding its way into the original writings.—At our first meeting, the great obstruction to a settlement was a strong impression that it was unscriptural for brethren to consent to human resolutions. The necessity for them was amply proved by showing the value of ecclesial rules for maintaining discipline, and the command to rebuke being of equal force to the one to comfort, made human resolutions the only scriptural course to take (in the absence of direct divine interference), being indispensable in emergencies where ecclesias become divided upon principles of faith. Another obstruction was in the form of a protest against discussing the merits of the original writings, it being urged that the present version was all that concerned us, and contained all the nourishment, stimulant, and comfort needful for our present existence. This matter was handled very ably by their own brethren, in demonstrating the impossibility of faith in a copy without faith in the original: copies being subject to the errors of transmission, &c. If there were errors in the original, our present version would be worthless, excepting to fanatics, who placed no value upon God’s gift of intelligence to man, and the acquisition of knowledge as being the first requisite predicated for obtaining eternal life. At our fourth meeting, it was anticipated that an understanding of agreement or disagreement would be attained, as it was considered that all points involved in a re-union had been exhaustively discussed. But an objection was then raised which, in its nature, was undoubtedly the one to test the hollowness or the substantiality of the grounds we had for justifying our withdrawal from them. The following is a copy of the resolution offered for adoption as the condition of re-union:—‘That the doctrine of the divine inspiration and consequent infallibility of the Scriptures in all parts of them (as originally written by prophets and apostles) is the first principle of that system of truth which forms the basis of our fellowship one with another in Christ, and that consequently we are unable to compromise that principle by continuing in association with those who do not believe it, or by fellowshipping those, who either directly or indirectly tolerate any teaching opposed to that doctrine.’ One of the brethren could not see his way clear to accept the resolution, as he had not knowingly fellowshipped any who taught the doctrine of partial inspiration, and he did not believe the doctrine was taught by any who were fellowshipping with the Masonic Hall ecclesia in Birmingham. If this were correct, the resolution would be superfluous, and our own inconsistency would be challenged and proved. We had no evidence with us in black and white to vindicate our position, and the meeting was adjourned for a week to allow time for producing proofs. At our fifth meeting, the position we took was sustained to the entire satisfaction of the brethren present, who constituted a majority of both ecclesias. . . . Duty is our watchword, love is our ambition, and in the flowery or thorny path of human sentiment, the children of God must unhesitatingly assert the supremacy of obedience to Christ’s commandments. To support or countenance false doctrine or wrong doing in our brethren is to share their responsibility by being partakers of their sins. This vexing objection to re-union was surrendered at the dictation of moral courage, and in a full realization of the warning:—“Therefore to him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” Rebuke and warning are the duties imposed upon a true rendering of the spirit as well as the letter of brotherly love, and demand that we withdraw ourselves from those brethren, who while they are believers in a wholly inspired Bible, yet by their actions support a doctrine which desires or stultifies the truth of their belief.The formal arrangements for reunion were completed yesterday; the ecclesia meeting in Rupert Street resolving to withdraw from all brethren associating in fellowship with the Masonic Hall ecclesia and extending an invitation to us to unite with them upon a basis of faith which recognises the above resolution as the first doctrine of truth. We had the company of brother Lowe at our meeting in the evening, after which we resolved to dissolve our ecclesia meeting in Bishopston, and to constitute ourselves with them into one ecclesia on the following Sunday morning, January 18th. Our conferences for re-union has served a good purpose in bringing us into closer contact one with another, in removing prejudices which a strong party feeling of separation has fed, and in giving each one of us an impetus to a more earnest appreciation of the necessity of unity and organization in the practise of those things we mutually profess, and of an intenser devotion to those divine principles of which all scripture teaching is but an elaboration.”

Brother Lowe, on behalf of the Oddfellows Hall ecclesia, transmits the following resolution adopted by them:—“That we establish ourselves as an ecclesia of Christadelphians, holding the belief of Scripture-teaching as expressed in the Birmingham Statement of Faith, and that we accept the doctrine of the divine inspiration and consequent infallibility of the Scriptures in all parts of them (as written originally by prophets and apostles) as the first principle of the system of truth which forms the basis of our fellowship one with another in Christ, and that consequently we are unable to compromise that principle by continuing in association with those who do not believe it, or by fellowshipping those who either directly , or indirectly tolerate any teaching opposed to that doctrine.”

A second resolution notifies the Masonic Hall body (Birmingham) of cessation of fellowship with them, and invites the fellowship of brethren everywhere who hold the same faith, and are prepared to take the same position in relation to the Scriptures. The brethren and sisters who constitute the united ecclesia (henceforward to meet in the Oddfellows’ Hall) are the following:—Brother E. and sister E. Lowe, brother W. and sister A. Palmer, brother F. A. Collins, brother and sister May, of Portishead; brother I. White, brother A. R. and sister S. C. Reed, brother W. Mills, brother W. and sister J. Allen, brother C. Beake, brother C. Wintle, brother G. Sutton, sister C. Gough, brother J. and sister E. Hollier, sister A. E. Hollier, sister F. Chandler, sister S. A. Cross, brother B. and sister A. E. Bradley, sister H. A. Bradley.

Prior to the fusion of the two ecclesias, brother G. Cornish and brother Stainforth, heretofore in fellowship with Oddfellows’ Hall, were requested to withdraw, on account of the doctrines introduced by them, and advocated in a pamphlet now in circulation. They did so, and took a number with them. Brother Bamford, of Oldham, thus refers to these doctrines:—

“I received to-day from brother Patchett, of Bristol, a copy of a 24 paged pamphlet by brother G. Cornish, jun., setting forth a number of vital errors in a most confident way, namely, ‘Christ, a substitute, died a vicarious death; Adam’s condemnation does not pass to his children; baptism not essential, but only good living; salvation for the good (?) of all ages and for infants, large resurrection, &c., &c.’ I cannot think such doctrines will receive a following among those who are enlightened.”

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More on Cardiff.  Bro. Grimes, who was alone in Cardiff following unsuccessful reunion efforts there, has now removed to Newport, and Newport enters into reunion efforts with Cardiff.

NEWPORT (MON.)

Chdn. 1891, pg. 28  Brother Grimes has come to reside in Newport. We shall find him a useful workfellow, you know. We are corresponding with the Cardiff ecclesia, with the view to fellowship. I pray God that the result may be satisfactory.

THE CHRISTADELPHIAN

(He is not ashamed to call them brethren.— Heb. 2:11 .)

February, 1891 pg. 67-68

A correspondent sends us an article cut from the Christian Commonwealth of January 15th, with mark at a reference to the Christadelphians. The article is entitled, “Why Men Divide.” It does not expound the subject undertaken. It dogmatises in shallow style, in flowing facile sentences, on a matter requiring deeper penetration than the article-writer evidently possesses. By “men” he means “followers of Christ,” and he thinks they divide because they do not see the advantage of union. At all events, that is what he says. It is a self-evident mistake. No man need go further than his own experience for its confutation. The Christadelphians do not stand off from the general body owning the Christian name from any idea that division is better than union. Speaking for ourselves, we mournfully submit to it as a necessity. Union with the great through would be a present advantage in every sense and way. But it is not a possibility with any man having discernment of what the Spirit teaches and faithfulness to what it requires. There is such a thing as “the truth” whether the common run of men know it or not. There is such a thing is “coming out from among” and “having no fellowship with” the indifference and error and evil that prevail, however many may have become insensible to the obligation. It is the recognition of these that lead to division, and not any insensibility to the advantage of union. The many are indifferent: a few are faithful. Hence the fermentation. It was Christ’s understanding of men and his foresight of the working of things among them, that led him to say, “From henceforth there shall be division.” The result is inevitable in an evil world, so long as there is any faithfulness left.

The article writer, arguing in favour of union, says, “. . Christadelphians attracted considerable attention while they were united in their pertinacity: but as soon as they were numerous enough to seem worth counting, schism began, and since that process set in, nothing they have said or done has excited even languid interest.” There is more than one false implication in this sentence.

1. It insinuates that withdrawal from errorists is an evil thing. —This is a fashionable sentiment, but it is not in accord with the mind of Christ, as expressed through the apostles. Love and union are beautiful. They are the most exquisite manifestations of intelligent life possible upon earth, and the earth will yet see their universal triumph when the purpose of God is finished. But meanwhile, there are other duties. The loving John, quoted by the writer, says concerning those who “bring not the doctrine of Christ,” that the faithful are to “Receive them not into their house,” and Jesus, in his message through this same John, commends one ecclesia for acting on this discrimination, and condemns another for not acting on it. To Ephesus he says, “Thou canst not bear them that are evil, but have tried them that say they are apostles, and hast found them liars” ( Rev. 2:2 ). To Thyatira he says, “Thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, who calleth herself a prophetess to teach and seduce my servants, &c.” Schism is the result of acting out these principles, and is a good thing if intelligently and faithfully done. It is a painful and apparently unfriendly process: but there is no choice with those who would be friendly to GOD first. It is one of the bitternesses of the situation that men holding fast by the faith originally delivered should be taunted with the eccentricities of men who were in native darkness a while back, and who, after being honoured by introduction to the light, only used their position to obscure it with their superficialities and worldly affinities.

2. It implies that apart from the divisions which the fermentations of error have produced among us, the truth attracted public notice, and that its success is to be measured by the fact and extent of this notice. On both points, we join issue. The truth never has received a public hearing. It has been an obscure and weak thing from the beginning. From its nature it cannot become popular, because it runs counter to human feeling in so many practical ways not seen at first. Its true friends know this, and they are not working to obtain public success or even public notice. They are simply carrying out orders. Christ calls for the exhibition of the light, and they exhibit it. Their operations in this respect are necessarily misunderstood by the public which judges from its own motives, and cannot judge in any other way. The Christadelphians cannot fail, because they are not aiming at what is humanly considered—“success.” They are simply engaged in doing their duty in the faith of a stupendous world-stunning success which is impending, and which depends on no human effort. Christ will shortly show himself on the earth, and put his hand to the work in a way that will startle so-called “Christian” mankind. True Christadelphians plod away with this in view. For this reason, they cannot be quenched by scorn or crushed by failures of any kind. The very last thing they desire is the attention and patronage of the “public,” which looms so large in all ordinary enterprises. Nothing is so dangerous to the truth as “respectability,” because the truth is a matter of God’s importance, while respectability is an affair of man’s importance. The two cannot work well together.

3. It infers that the truth is less effective now than it has been in unspecified previous times. This is contrary to fact. It is of course a matter difficult to bring to a definite test, but so far as tests can be applied, the result is not in favour of the writer’s suggestion. If some have seceded from us, many have come to us, and the process is steadily going on from month to month without any diminution in the rate of increase. The popular maxim “There are as good fish in the sea as were ever caught,” applies to the sea of human life as well as to the ocean.

The well-known maxim is also applicable, “No man is essential.” The truth is a thing of peerless excellence and power: and if some throw it up, their place is soon taken by others who have eyes and hearts; while others again, with intellect enlightened and a-fire, “hold on to the end” with a grip of iron. This process is quietly going on all the world over, while the Athenian newspaper gossips have dismissed “even the languid interest” which the misunderstood operations of the truth at first inspired in their somnolent bosoms. The work is in fact better at the end than at the beginning: for, with some exceptions both ways, the later crop of believers is of a higher moral and intellectual type than those who assented to the truth in the days of its first emergence from the dust.

Much, of course, depends upon the individual point of view as to how these things appear: but the facts, taken broadly, justify these rejoinders to the smooth-tongued article in question, which can only weigh with those who are captivated by appearances.

Chdn. 1891, pg. 149

The Christadelphian

(He is not ashamed to call them brethren.— Heb. 2:11 .)

April, 1891

God has been pleased to subject those who desire to conform to His word to what sometimes amounts to painful embarrassment, by having required of them things that at first sight are incompatible with one another. They are to do good to all men, and yet to be not unequally yoked with unbelievers. They are to be “in the world” and yet to “come out from among them and be separate.” They are to love their enemies and yet to love not the world. They are to be patient with the erring and yet to abhor that which is evil, and not to bear with men that are evil. They are to think no evil and yet to try professors. They are to submit to wrong and yet to refuse even to eat with men called brethren who espouse wrong doing, or error. They are to show hospitality and yet to receive not into their houses those who bring not the doctrine of Christ.

There is, doubtless, an object in prescribing these apparently conflicting duties. It sets up contrary mental currents that at last bring about a fine equilibrium of character which would not be attainable if duty lay all in one direction. But often the effort to conform brings distress, and it is impossible not to feel pity for men sacrificing one duty in their endeavour to conform to another.

These thoughts are suggested by an effort in Lincoln, which may be well meant enough in some directions, but which cannot receive favour from a complete enlightenment. It is an effort that tacitly invites us to repudiate the policy of insisting upon a wholly-inspired and infallible Bible as the basis of fellowship, by adopting a “basis of fellowship” that omits it. This document is most plausible in its wording, as all efforts in a wrong direction are; but in its meanings and implications, it is far worse than its promulgators probably intend or have any idea of.

It formulates an impossible rule of withdrawal, which turns the ecclesia into a judgment seat of the Papistical order. The apostolic rule is to “withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly,” and from those who teach heresy, without reference to the question of what the Lord may finally think of them. And this rule is defensive in its bearing, not offensive. It means that we are not to be partakers of other men’s sins. John lays down the axiom that He that receives the holder of wrong doctrine or practices partakes of their evil deeds.

In withdrawing, we wash our own hands. We leave to God those whom we withdraw from. We are not authorised to judge or condemn them. But this document lays it down that we must not withdraw, unless we are prepared to maintain that the cause of withdrawal will make salvation impossible. This would erect an ecclesia into a spiritual judicature, deciding questions which the Lord has reserved for himself.

The document proposes “union with all who have not forfeited their right to the fully assured salvation.” How can such rule be carried out? How can we know who have and who have not forfeited the said right? It is calling upon us to pronounce on a matter beyond our jurisdiction, and that has been placed beyond it by the express command to “judge not,” “condemn not.”

The time for withdrawal is when men drift into unscriptural attitudes of faith or practice. These we note and separate ourselves from, without reference to the question of whether the offenders can be saved, which we cannot decide. And the withdrawal is not putting them out but going out ourselves , as the term implies. We simply go away, saying we cannot be responsible. The attitude prescribed by this “basis” would place the ecclesia in a chair of authority, with power of excommunication, arrogating the right to “cut off” or say the excommunicated cannot be saved.

Faithful men are more truly modest, while more uncompromising towards departure from the faith than the sentiments that inspire this basis. Faithful men say, “we have no power to cut off: Christ will do that. But we have power to withdraw; and this we will do with however much reluctance and pain, when the Word of God and its obligations are tampered with by whomsoever.” We will exercise this liberty unhampered by any assumptions as to the position of those who have technically “responded to the Gospel call.” The basis declares that all such are “in union and fellowship with the Father.” This is not true. There were many in the apostolic age who had “obeyed the Gospel call,” whom the Apostles repudiated as “enemies of the cross of Christ” ( Phil. 3:18 )—spots in their feasts of charity ( Jude 12 ); who claimed to be Jews but were not, but lied ( Rev. 3:9 ).

It is a fundamental principle as to the operations of the gospel, that “many are called but few are chosen,” and that “all are not Israel that are of Israel.” This is a principle which we cannot apply, and which we are not called upon to apply. We do not know who will be chosen of those who have been called. We have nothing to do with saying who will and who will not be saved, as regards profession of the truth. The thing we have to do is to take care of our own standing in relation to the prevailing corruptions. We refuse to be implicated in these, while entertaining the very best wishes concerning all men. We mingle with Bible charity the most decisive resolution not to be compromised by any class of men, whether they have gone through “the waters of baptism” or no.

Unless we observed this apostolically prescribed scrupulosity, the truth would soon be suffocated and disappear. Men who decline it are the enemies of the truth without intending it perhaps—all which will appear in a very plain light when the expediencies of the passing mortal hour are at an end in the manifested presence of the author of the seven messages to the ecclesias.

 

NEWPORT (MON)

Chdn. 1891, pg. 277  Brother Lander, in a letter omitted from last month’s publication, reports that brother Curnock is gone to Philadelphia, also that on May 13th, William Bryant (24), formerly Baptist, and of Abersychan, after showing evidence that he believed the things concerning the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ was immersed. This is fruit of brother Lewison, of Abersychan, who, no doubt, will be highly pleased to have a fellow-worker. Inter alia , I should think that brother Shuttleworth will have no difficulty in finding sufficient subscribers to his proposed “Lightstand Bible,” which will be a marvellous production, no doubt.

Writing again (June 14th) brother Lander refers to the reply which brother Grimes has written to the pamphlet issued against the truth entitled “A word of Warning.” He also states that the brethren have issued posters announcing a series of lectures in reply to the same. He also reports an ineffectual attempt to come to an understanding with certain in Cardiff, with the view to fellowship. They accepted the Cardiff constitution, and even avowed their belief that the Bible is inspired every jot and tittle, but they refused to discontinue the fellowship of those who cannot, or will not, make the same avowal, consequently the Newport brethren were compelled to cease communication and to allow things to remain as they are.

There was apparently a significant pamphlets circulated among the brethren in 1891 denouncing the fellowship position of bro. Roberts and those who stood related to Temperance Hall.  It was called "The Open Door," and appeals to the early writings of bro. Thomas.  It is answered in two parts by bro. Roberts.   A few months later, it is split apart, sentence by sentence and answered in January of 1892 by bro. F. G. Jannaway.  Remember this is now six years after the division.  It shows how the truth is under continual attacks by those who would carry it away, and how relentless we have to be in our defense of it.

Chdn. 1891, pg. 305-308

“The Open Door.”

A fine thing is an open door for proclaiming the truth, but not for the toleration and nursing in fellowship of ideas subversive of it. If the way is narrow in this respect, we can truly say it is not of our inventing or choosing or liking. It would be to our taste and advantage in every way to yoke with everyone in the free and easy spirit that is more and more finding favour in the world, as it draws near to the time when the Scriptures proclaim it ripe for destruction. But we dare not. The roaring thunders of judgment that will be set loose at the reappearing of Christ will sweep away the wide and snugly established and respectable refuges of lies that overspread our country; and with them, please God, we will not be found. All pleas for open doors are treacherous to the narrow way,—however well meant.

We do not doubt the sentimental sincerity of the writer of this pamphlet; but he evidently lacks the penetration required in foggy times like these. We require that state of the faculties described by Paul as “senses exercised by reason of use to discern both good and evil.” His defectiveness in this respect is shown by his taking sides with the evil with much pious protestation in favour of the good. We are sorry to differ with him in toto . In fact, nothing has ever been such an affliction as the necessity for action in this inspiration controversy; but there was no choice; and sorrow, however deep, does not alter facts.

Our friend characterises that action as “an effort to entirely change the basis of fellowship.” This is a complete misdescription. It was an effort to resist change—not to bring about change. The change proposed was that whereas the Bible had been regarded among us as the infallible word of God, we should henceforth be at liberty to regard it as only a partly-inspired and possibly erring thing. This proposal was not made in those words, but in a much more insidious manner—by the promulgation and toleration of doctrines that had been introduced to that effect. To exclude this leaven of corruption, the brethren were called upon to recognise the foundation upon which we had stood from the beginning. If some did not know we stood on that foundation, the misconception was theirs and had to be dispelled. We cannot believe the misconception existed unless we suppose an amount of obtuseness which no one would care to own to. If the Bible were not the infallible word of God, where was the sense of making the teaching of the Bible a reason for our faith? The man who calls the assertion of the divine character of the Bible “the addition of a crotchet to the scriptural basis of fellowship” only shows either that he does not understand the situation he is criticising, or that he is in sympathy with the view that calls that character in question. No wonder, therefore, that he speaks of the formal assertion of that character as “an unscriptural resolution.”

Our friend requires his history as well as his doctrine correcting a little. It is not true that the editor of the Christadelphian took steps to “eject by sheer force” those who would not consent to the dutiful attitude in the case. The attempt was rather on the part of some of the latter to force themselves “by sheer force” on a fellowship for which they had become unfitted. What happened was this (as our friend tacitly invites correction, we state the facts):—

The issue having been created on this most vital subject, I convened a friendly private meeting of those who took part with the introducer of the false doctrine, in the hope of possibly inducing them to adopt such a statement of their position as would admit of a continuance of harmony. Perceiving we were hopelessly at variance, I then asked them peaceably to retire. This they refused to do; upon which I said if they did not voluntarily retire, they would compel me to take measures to effect a separation, as I could not accept responsibility for the doctrines that were being advocated. They said they would leave the responsibility of that with me, and the meeting ended. I had no alternative but accept the responsibility. What I did was to issue a circular addressed to each brother and sister individually, explaining the position, and asking each one who saw matters as I saw them to indicate the fact by returning a declaration to that effect. The result showed a majority of our number in the right mind. I then convened a meeting of that majority.

Our object was peace. There had been debate and wrangle enough. There was no object but an evil one to be served by any more of it. I therefore did not ask those who were of an opposing mind. At this majority meeting, we used our power as such to dissolve our association, and to re-incorporate ourselves upon a basis that unambiguously affirmed the wholly divine character of the Bible. We then sent an invitation to the dissentients inviting their adhesion to our position, and intimating that unless they saw fit to adopt it, we should not expect the continuation of their fellowship. But not meaning anything personally discourteous, we engaged a room for them, until they should see fit to make arrangements of their own: and we also offered to divide our effects with them pro rata .

The “six stalwart brethren” who have struck our friend so painfully were used for no aggressive purpose whatever. The picture of ejection is a picture of the imagination. Our dissenting brethren were all admitted to the hall on presenting themselves. The stalwarts were only used as a barrier against access to a particular part of the room, and this because of those who were disposed to force themselves upon us, and so make our separation abortive. Had there been no barrier, this would certainly have happened. The incident has been magnified and distorted to our reproach. This was to be expected. The incident itself we could not escape, except by a course that would have been to the detriment of the truth afterwards: and it is expected of us that we be wise as serpents, while harmless as the dove.

What has been called “these high-handed proceedings” may be differently described by Him who commended brethren in the seven messages for things that would be condemned far and wide in the nineteenth century. That they should be condemned by those who necessitated them is most natural: that they will be condemned by Him in whose service they were adopted, we do not believe. The day will shortly declare. We would advise our critics to wait lest they be found condemning what God will commend. It will not be the first time He has praised energetic measures in His service ( 2 Kings 10:30 : see verses 20–25 ). Our critics deny that the acts in question were acts in His service. Well, in this they deny the truth, as a little common-sense ought to show them. What other object could we have in such proceedings? Was it the way to preserve friends? Was it the way to create influence? Was it the way to promote temporal aims? Was it not the way to put everything in peril? We know the answer: this open-door pamphlet re-echoes it: “It was a case of Diotrephes loving to have the pre-eminence.” What can we rejoin but that in this again the critics err grievously against the truth. We love much the pre-eminence of Scriptural views and principles, and we have always laboured to promote the pre-eminence of every man whose influence we believed contributive to this preeminence. For our own pre-eminence, in a personal sense, we have an actual and absolute distaste. Even if it were otherwise, they ought not to begrudge it as men professing to have the interests of the truth at heart, seeing it has tended to the pre-eminence of those same interests: for with what result have we lived and laboured for nearly 40 years? Has it not been the exaltation of the Bible and extension of its influence? If we have ever stood in anybody else’s way, it has been with pain, and because their influence was not manifestly promotive of spiritual influence, but the reverse. It has not been because we desired our own pre-eminence. It has been our mortification to be suspected of such feelings. We forgive those who entertain such humiliating suspicions, and who circulate such hard speeches against us. Very likely they think they are true. At the same time but a little sense ought again to have saved them from such a mistake. When a man desires pre-eminence for the sake of it, he never makes arrangements likely to interfere with it. Had we been animated as our open-door friends allege, we should not have given the place which we did to the man whom they followed to their hurt when he wandered from right ways. We know the answer that is ready even to this. The Lord knows the absolute untruthfulness of all these malevolent suggestions that have been made, and the unmixed disinterestedness of the measures so industriously misrepresented; and he will have a terrible word to say to those who are guilty of the misrepresentation if He forgive not.

The facts are simple, and require no distorting to be intelligible. We imagined the ex-pastor of Rock Ferry Congregation to be a man who not only admired and understood the Bible, but could be entrusted with its defence, and the defence of its teaching, against a world in arms. So long as we thought this, we accorded him implicit trust and boundless co-operation in the gratitude that such a help to the truth was calculated to inspire in this day of small things. But when, to our dumbfounded astonishment, he began to shew enmity and to contend that the Bible was not to be called the Word of God, and that there were errors in its composition due to fallible authorship (and this as the mere echoist of Dutch and German critics whose plausibilities he was not penetrating enough to see through), we were caught in a trap. There was no alternative but war. This war continues and will not end, so far as we are concerned, except with death or something much better. Persons have taken sides from various motives. Some, no doubt, honestly imagined new truth had been discovered, and to this day have been unable to deliver their minds from the mist of controversial difficulties in which they became enwrapped.

Whatever were the motives actuating various classes of opponents, there was for us but one practicable course, and that was to insist upon the unerring character of the Bible as the word of God, as the first principle in our basis of fellowship, and accept whatever sacrifices this might involve. These have been great; but regret on this account is out of the question. If they had been a hundred times greater than they were, we could not repent of a course which, whatever enmity may surmise, was dictated by a single consideration for what is called for at the hands of servants of God in a day of universal contradiction of His truth.

Our plausible friend of the open door steps forward with the suggestion that “cool blood” may have brought a different view of the affair, and should end the strife. If that means that those who have faltered are now prepared to profess acceptance of the Bible as the unerring word of God, there will be something joyful to consider. If it means that those who have insisted on this may be disposed to relax in their insistance, we can only say, so far as we are concerned, that he is woefully mistaken. Our blood is not cool on this subject, and never has been for 40 years. We shall go in to Christ’s presence for weal or for woe with the cry of No surrender on the question of the Bible. If we must be condemned and cried down on account of this attitude, we bear it in sorrow.

The argument from Dr. Thomas is inapplicable, unless our friend maintains that the doctor’s scriptural enlightenment was complete from the very start. In 1837, he was only beginning to feel his way in many things. He spoke of the whole Campbellite community (to which he belonged) as persons only “beginning to emerge from the smoke of the great city (Babylon) ,” and it was to persons in this position that he applied the expression of opinion quoted by our friend, in italics, that in performing acts of dis-fellowship, they were “overstepping the bounds of modesty, decorum, and discretion and propriety.” In later writings, from which we could precisely quote, if need arose, he plainly laid down the apostolic doctrine that to have fellowship with error in doctrine or practice, was to be responsible for it. Why should our friend go back to 1837, when Dr. Thomas was still in darkness? Why should he have the doctor’s remarks of that date “written in letters of gold on every Christadelphian periodical”; and the doctor’s later utterances concealed away out of sight in common printer’s ink? If Dr. Thomas of 1837, is “our justly esteemed Doctor,” what is Dr. Thomas of 1862 when he advised us to withdraw from the fellowship of Dowieism because of its ambiguous attitudes? Is he not likely to have been more “justly esteemable” after 25 more years acquaintance with the Scriptures than when he was “just emerging from the smoke of the great city?” Why should we be asked to “go the whole way with the Doctor” in 1837, and not the whole way with the Doctor in 1862? There is manifestly here a sympathy with the immaturities of partial enlightenment.

The quotation from the Doctor’s answer to David King in 1848 seems to bear out our “open door” friend’s view about non-fellowship, but only seems. Even if it really did so, we could not allow it to have any weight against Paul’s doctrine on the subject. But it does not do what it appears to do.

The situation must be taken into account. There were no ecclesias in existence. There were Campbellite meetings disposed (some of them) to receive the truth. Dr. Thomas was operating in connection with them in the public exhibition of the truth. David King found fault with the Doctor for doing this, and said he ought to have nothing to do with them after practically dis-fellowshipping them by his re-immersion on receiving the hope of Israel. The letter from which the quotation is made is the Doctor’s answer to this. Its essence lies in the remark, that the position was one of “bearing and forbearing with one another in hope that all will come to see the real truth, on which side soever it may be.” The time came when decision on this issue had to be taken, and then, with a new situation, new phases of duty forced themselves on the Doctor’s recognition, and among others, the duty of receiving those only who received the truth. His negative reference to Paul’s Corinthian attitude was not one he afterwards insisted on. As for “the dark spirit of Popery,” &c., it is his description of the spirit he recognised in the man to whom he was writing. He could not mean that the spirit of conformity to apostolic precept was of this character, and among other precepts is the one to “withdraw from every brother” who refuses to consent to the wholesome words and works of truth ( 1 Tim. 6:3–5 ; 2 Thess. 3:6 ). But, as before said, Dr. Thomas would not be put forward as an authority for any course that could be shown to be opposed to the teaching of the Word.

(To be continued.)

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The following article is a couple of articles out of chronological order, but it is the continuance of the above article.  It is of such importance historically, that I thought I would keep these two pieces together.

Chdn. 1891  pg.  346-347

"THE OPEN DOOR”

Our friend of the “open door” pamphlet divides his effort into two parts:—First, his address or opening remarks on the situation in general, in which he tries, by the aid of capital letters, to put Dr. Thomas into antagonism with a movement which he would certainly have espoused with all his heart; and, second, the so-called “correspondence” with brother Sulley, consisting of one brief note of courtesy from brother Sulley, and two prolonged epistolary elbow-jerks from our friend, in attempted justification of his attitude, from a Scriptural point of view. “Open the door” is the cry. It is a good cry on the face of it, and it is unpleasant to appear so ungracious as to seem opposed to such a good thing.

An “open door” suggests hospitality and kindness; and no man of sense and goodness would desire to be identified with anything else. But there are times when the friends of God have to submit to a wrong appearance in the case. It is one of the hardships of their position in the present evil world, that they have often to act as if they were unsociable, and illiberal and cantankerous, and even conceited. They are hampered by considerations of right and wrong that do not trouble the lovers of pleasure. They have accepted rules of action and a policy of life that are absolutely unintelligible to those who live for the present life merely, in whose eyes they are liable to appear morose and censorious cynics. In the very first century, they wrongly acquired the reputation of being man-haters, because they strove to obey the apostolic injunctions: “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world;” “Come out from among them, and be ye separate;” and because the ordinary relations of life did not weigh with them when incompatible with their enthusiastic fealty to Christ and his Father.

Well, there is pure reason at the bottom of their action, however unfavourable that line of action may appear in the light of popular maxims. For this reason they can submit and wait. There is a time to accept the odium of the narrow way, and to appear in men’s eyes far other than the man of God is in his own inner self, and it is such a time when men are shouting for an open door where God has closed it. When a man comes in the name of the truth and consents not to the truth, John says, “Receive him not into your house.” If a man even consents to the truth but disobeys the commandments, Paul enjoins that with such an one we are “no, not to eat.” This is very unpleasant; but there is no alternative if we are to submit to apostolic law which will outlast all law. Our friend of the open door pamphlet says he will not be a party to disunion. In this he is disobedient, if men seeking union are disloyal to the truth, which is the basis of union. Christ commended the brethren in Ephesus for finding out and discarding unfaithful professors: he condemned the brethren in Pergamos and Thyatira because they suffered false teaching and false teachers in their midst ( Rev. 2:2 , 14 , 20 ). Had our friend been at Thyatira, and carried out his policy of refusing to be a party to disunion, he would have been on the side condemned by Christ.

He quotes scripture in defence of his policy, but it is with a want of discrimination which we may hope time will correct. He quotes from the parable of the tares: “Let both grow together until the harvest”—both the tares and the wheat. We cannot understand such a quotation unless our friend means to argue that we are not to obey the commandments which direct us—1, to treat a lawless brother after proper warning “as a heathen man” ( Matt. 18:17 ); 2, to avoid those who walk contrary to the apostolic doctrine ( Rom. 16:17 ); 3, to put away from among ourselves a wicked person ( 1 Cor. 5:13 ); 4, not to keep company with any man that is called a brother if he be a fornicator or a railer ( 1 Cor. 5:11 ); 5, to withdraw from every brother that walketh disorderly ( 2 Thess. 3:6 ); 6, to have no company with any man who refuses to submit to the apostolic writing as to the commandments of the Lord ( 2 Thess. 3:14 , 1 Cor. 14:37 , 38 ); 7, to withdraw from perverse disputers who consent not to the wholesome words of the Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness ( 1 Tim. 6:3–5 ); 8, to turn away from men having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof ( 2 Tim. 3:5 ); 9, to reject a man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition ( Titus 3:10 ); 10, and to receive not any who bring not the doctrine of Christ (2 Jno. 10 ).

It must be evident that there is something wrong in a construction of the parable of the tares that would have the effect of nullifying these reasonable commandments (reasonable because unanimous submission to the faith and practice of the gospel is the very basis of association in Christ). The parable and the commandments are not in collision at all. They refer to two different things. What the commandments refer to is self-evident. It is to the discipline of ecclesial life. What the parable refers to is the seed-sowing operations of the Son of Man in the house of Israel, as shown in Nazareth Revisited , page 138. In this operation it was needful that the tares should not be uprooted till the wheat was grown, otherwise the ripening development of the wheat would have been prevented. The development of the righteous requires that the wicked prosper contemporaneously with them for a time. But to contend that because the wicked are tolerated in the land of the living while the righteous are being trained, therefore we are not to obey the commands concerning those who become insubordinate to apostolic requirements in the community of the truth, is not to illustrate a “right division of the truth,” but to perpetrate a glaring instance of the reverse. Our friend’s contention would justify all the absurdities we have heard contended for in our time. We have met those who say there ought to be no withdrawal for false doctrine; and we have met those who contend there ought to be no withdrawal for wrong behaviour, because the Lord is judge. If our friend’s use of the words, “Let both grow together until the harvest,” is a legitimate use, then both positions would be right. If so, there ought to be no separations from a professing body on any ground. Why, then, have our friends separated from the sects and denominations? To be consistent with their contention, we should all return to the churches.

The belief of the truth and submission to the commandments is “the true basis of apostolic fellowship.” On both heads, the sects and denominations are impossible communions for those who are subject to the Scriptures; and in so far as on either head, any body of people become uncertain or lax; they are in the same position. When they question or leave in doubt the authority of the Scriptures as the infallible work of inspiration, they unhinge that which is naturally, the beginning and foundation of all spiritual truth in our age. This is the mischief that has caused the disunion our open-door friend laments. It is not “the method or manner,” but the fact and effect of inspiration that is in question. This has been reiterated times without number; but our friends choose to ignore or evade the issue. Yet its reality is manifest in everything they write. Even this open-door friend cannot quote Paul’s statement on inspiration without quoting it in the non-committal form that commended itself to semi-sceptical Revisers: “Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable, &c.” He says he never came across anyone claiming to be a brother who denied this yet; denied what? That every inspired scripture is profitable. That is not the question. The question is what is inspired scripture? this or that; all or part? Here is where we part—either because the question is answered wrongly, or because an answer is refused, on personal grounds, or because if rightly answered the questioner wants it not to matter as regards communion with those who cannot or will not so answer.

Then our friend objects to the phrases, “infallible” and “wholly-inspired,” on the ground that they are unscriptural expressions, and, therefore, presumably representative of unscriptural ideas; for what else can the remark mean, that “those who hold unscriptural ideas are obliged to go outside the lids of the Bible to get phrases to convey their meaning.” What is this but saying he does not believe the Bible to be wholly-inspired and infallible? If he said so plainly, he would only say what the more candid of them honestly believe. Some in their blindness deny there are such persons as partial inspirationists among the separated brethren. The editor of the Investigator , who is in fellowship with them, knows better, and candidly avowed the other day in conversation with the editor of the Christadelphian that there are partial inspirationists among them, and that the Bible is not loved among them as it ought to be. This we know to be a true testimony.

To talk as our open-door friend does of such an issue as “a squabble about a non-essential point of doctrine” is only to show that he has not estimated the scriptures aright yet, or the bearing of the controversy that has been raised. To stand up for the scriptures against those whose doctrine would undermine them, is not “wasting precious energy on fratricidal strife,” but employing it in the commendable work of “contending earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints.” And this will not be to their dishonour in the day of final adjustment, but otherwise, if sincerely and humbly done. Those who take this course may be accused of causing the divisions. The accusation is only as true as Ahab’s accusation against Elijah that he was the “troubler of Israel.” Ahab was the true troubler, for it was his course that caused the trouble by compelling Elijah to act his part. The responsibility of division rests with those who refuse to avow their faith in the complete inspiration of the Scriptures, or who while affirming it do so with a reservation which prevents them from avowing belief in its infallibility; or who believing and avowing both, hold on by those who deny both. There can be no open doors with faithful men to such ambiguities. The only open door they can have to do with is the open door of the narrow way that leadeth unto life.

  NEWPORT (MON.)

Chdn. 1891, pg. 316  In the report last month, under this heading, of “an ineffectual attempt to come to an understanding with certain in Cardiff,” the statement is made that “they accepted the Cardiff constitution”; this ought to have been Newport constitution. It was a slip of the pen on the part of the editor.—There has been further communication, but no favourable result is yet reported.—Withdrawal has taken place from brethren Shepherd and Cross for continued absence from the table; brother Harry Edwards has separated himself.

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So even though the Cardiff ecclesia accepted the Newport Constitution, as they had previously affirmed to Birmingham that they had no partial inspiration believers in their ecclesia, nor would they permit them in their ecclesia,  they are refused fellowship because they remain in fellowship, and travel to ecclesias which do harbor errorists.  I cannot see any way that the Nicodemites explanations can account for this behavior, and in all the ecclesias who continue association with Temperance Hall.

ROMSEY

Chdn. 1891, pg. 318  Circumstances have arisen which necessitate my removal from Wimborne to this town. I found sister Godwin here, who had been living in isolation for some time. Sister Godwin had been in fellowship with those who countenance partial inspiration, having been introduced to the truth by friends on “the other side.” After a careful consideration of the position, she has been enabled to take the uncompromising attitude, and now breaks bread with sister Morris and myself. We are looking forward to being able to do something in the cause of the truth here.— Andrew Morris .

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Another brother in Wales elects to stand aside from Cardiff, and the other ecclesias in fellowship with Cardiff, and he has his correspondence published, while Cardiff still can't.

LIANDAFF

Chdn. 1891 pg. 476  This comes with my kind love to you and yours, and all the brethren with you. I cannot agree with the Cardiff brethren. One of them stood up and taught that the Bible is not an inspired book altogether. Before that, I thought I was aboard of the old ship, but looking aloft, I saw that they had not the old standard flying at the masthead, so I drew up anchor and about ship and left them, and sent to the old admiral and got a new chart of directions, fully understanding the articles therein named. I came in contact with brother Grimes, who handed me the Guide . I had never seen this before. If I was in power, I’d give every Christadelphian one of these Guides . One brother has been asking me for one. With love to all, I remain, your brother in the one hope of the redemption of Israel.— Morgan Rees .

Chdn. 1892

LANDAFF

Chdn. 1892 pg. 29  I was very pleased to see my last letter in the Christadelphian . But there is one correction which I should like to make. When I said “one of them stood up and taught that the Bible was not an inspired book altogether,” I omitted to say that it was in Swansea that these words were uttered, by one, however, who belongs to the same body as the “Cardiff Ecclesia.” Morgan Rus .

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In 1892, bro. Roberts travels to Glasgow Scottland, where the truth has done very poorly.  Bro. Roberts is surprised and encouraged that there are even 50 brothers and sisters who come to his lecture.  While there, he is challenged to debate the subject of fellowship as applied to the way the partial inspiration question is being handled.  Now if our Nicodemite brethren are correct, there is no reason for debate on the subject at all.  The brethren should simply state their position and invite fellowship on that alone, like Cardiff did, (and was rejected.)  Or they just focus on sound brethren, and withdraw from the unsound, which was done in countless ecclesias (though those now are regarded as out of fellowship by bro. Roberts.)

Bro. Roberts refuses the debate.  He says there is no reason to debate a subject long settled in the minds of the brethren.  So not only did bro. Roberts believe as the Bereans do, and as this history demonstrates he both believed and practiced; but he didn't even think there was any room for the discussion of any other practice.  Should we fellowship sound brethren who can't see their way clear to stop fellowshipping those associated with error?  It was not even something worth talking about.

What were the ideas that this Scottish brother wished to advance?  We don't know, but we can tell what articles on fellowship follow this visit.  In fact, an article called "Ecclesial Fellowship" printed in two parts, in the February and March issues of the Christadelphian is a point by point answering of an essay written against the fellowship of the Christadelphian.  This article is included in "The Doctrine of Fellowship" and has been on our web site for years, here. This article is despised by Central apologists, and its author, F. G. Jannaway (who was the first editor of The Berean Magazine) is singled out for particular condemnation. 

Every objection to the position taken by bro. Roberts on fellowship is condemned in the article by the writer, and defended by bro. Jannaway.  In fact, all the objections raised by Nicodemites are dealt with in this article.  I have been told by Central apologists that this was not written by bro. Roberts, and therefore cannot be attributed as his position.  Can we not understand how ridiculous this is?  Can anyone honestly suggest that bro. Roberts ran a two part article which taught false doctrine on separation and fellowship, at the exact time that he was trying to get ecclesias to declare themselves, and stand aside from partial inspiration theorists?  Does anyone seriously believe that bro. Roberts ran an article teaching false doctrine on fellowship, when ecclesias were attempting reunions on some unsound basis, and at a time where he has been directly challenged to debate the subject?  Does anyone really believe that bro. Roberts was not aware that a debate could have been forced upon him, and then he would have to defend this article, since it appeared in his magazine? 

Finally, we invite you to search the correspondence for protests lodged against this article.  There are none.  Look at bro. J. J. Andrews article complaining of the way the matter was handled, and there were many complaints.  Where are the complaints against this article?  What there are, are some 15 records of bro. Jannaway's lectures and exhortations in many ecclesias; a record of his associations with Temperance Hall, Birmingham; a note that an ecclesia invites him to assist in a baptism examination, referring to him as a beloved brother; and a pamphlet contradicting the writings of a former Christadelphian named Nichols.  So what does this mean?  It means that the brethren were already in agreement with these thoughts, or the editor suppressed any dissent  Either way, it shows that the position of bro. Jannaway was the position of the true Christadelphian body in the days of bro. Roberts.

Chdn. 1892, pg. 60-61

17. W .—It is usually believed that in this act of fellowship we bid God-speed to all with whom we partake of the sacrificial emblems.

18. F .—True, we do so believe, and when you give reasons for believing otherwise, we will deal with such and give you testimony to support our belief. We shall also have something to say of our belief that breaking of bread is simply an act of fellowship, and not its sum total. But go on.

19. W .—It is usually believed that we involve ourselves in the responsibility of errors of belief that may be held by them or unrighteous conduct that they may practise.

20. F .—True also; provided ( a ) that the errors affect first principles; ( b ) that the unrighteous conduct had not been repented of, and ( c ) that we are cognisant of such errors of belief and conduct.

21. W .—And we have refused to break bread with brethren, whose faith we know to be identically our own, because they are not prepared to disconnect themselves from others who hold an error of belief upon some point or other.

22. F .—If by “some point or other,” you mean errors referred to in paragraph 20, we are justified in so refusing, and the grounds for such refusal will be manifest as we proceed with our arguments.

23. W .—Our fear has been that the responsibility of error would be transmitted to us through the medium of one, who had himself become subject to that responsibility through the act of fellowship.

24. F .—What do you mean by “responsibility transmitted?”

25. W .—To make myself clear by using a simile that has been quoted before to convey the same thought—that evil either of faith or practice is conveyed from one to another by the act of breaking bread, much in the same way as uncleanness was conveyed from the leper, through another who came into personal contact with him, to a third person, a fourth, and so on.

26. F .—Then your understanding of the matter is not correct. As to responsibility being transmitted through mediums, we have never held any such idea. A man is only responsible for his own errors (and quite enough too). We believe that if he knowingly fellowships false teachers, he is responsible for so doing, but that is a very different thing to having the particular evil of such teachers transmitted to him. By careful reading, you will observe that “knowing” was an important element in the law to which you refer. ( Lev. 5:3 .)

27. W .—Now if this principle be a true one, it———

28. F .—But we have not contended it is, and, therefore, there is no need to speculate as to where it leads, or what the results may be of the application of such principle.

73. W .—We cannot fellowship false doctrine concerning the teaching of the Scriptures without being in agreement with it, and therefore believing it.

74. F .—That is not true; the Scriptures declare we can fellowship false doctrine without believing it. One illustration will suffice. In the chapter already referred to ( 1 Cor 1:10 ), we have seen that Paul tells his brethren that those who eat of the sacrifices offered to idols are “partakers” (original same as fellowship in verse 20 ) of the altar, and therefore fellowship all represented there by, which in this case were demons or idols (for all gods but the true one are idols) Now you have admitted that they did not eat with the idols (paragraph 55) but with their worshippers, and the Corinthian believers knew with Paul that an “idol is nothing in the world” (1 Cor., 8:4 ); therefore it is clear from Paul’s counsel to them that they could fellowship false doctrine without being believers in it themselves.

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VISIT TO GLASGOW

Chdn. 1892, pg. 111-112  Some months ago, the Editor of the Christadelphian accepted an invitation from the Glasgow brethren to visit Scotland and to spend at least a fortnight at various places in the south-western part of the country. When the time drew near, sister Roberts was in a state forbidding her husband’s absence; and the Editor wrote to suggest the deferring of the visit to a later period in the year, at the same time consenting to come in case arrangements had been made that could not be cancelled. The brethren replied that some arrangements of the kind referred to had been entered into, but that perhaps the best way would be, under the circumstances, to shorten time and limit the visit to Glasgow. This was accordingly decided on, and when the time came (Jan. 30), sister Roberts having meanwhile made encouraging progress, the Editor duly took the train at Birmingham for Glasgow, starting at 11–30 and arriving at the Central Station, Glasgow, at 6–45, after a journey of terrific speed. Several tried friends of the truth were awaiting him at the station, and conveyed him to Nielson’s Temperance Hotel, where a private sitting-room and bedroom were at his disposal for five days. (We thank the brethren for this arrangement which allowed of usual writing work being done and limited mortal strength being conserved for platform duty on both of which points we frequently suffer when we have to chat at meal tables with friends. But as the old lady said, we “make no complaints.” We should be ashamed of ourselves if we did. Cheerful resignation and contentment is the apostolic rule: “Nevertheless,” as Paul has it in another connection, “if thou mayest be free, use it rather.”)

Next day (Sunday, January 30th), we met a large gathering of brethren and sisters in the meeting of the brethren at the South Side. Several were present from other places. It was encouraging to see so many true friends after the desolation wrought throughout Scotland by the partial inspiration pestilence, and the animosities fanned by evil speaking. In Glasgow itself it seems there is an ecclesia numbering 50, who stand firm for the Bible. After all the havoc that has taken place, we were surprised to learn the number was so large in the circumstances. We had thought about 20 or 30 was the extent of the muster roll. Of course, we know that numbers have nothing to do with it; numbers come and numbers go. Still, it is pleasing to hear of numbers on the right side. It is part of the pleasure that will be excited by the spectacle of the multidude that no man can number. In the evening there was a good audience in the Bazaar Hall, a central building, to hear of the place occupied by the Jews in the scheme of the Divine work on the earth. There was similar audience on Tuesday (“The Bible Inspired”), and on Thursday (“The History of Error”). At the close of the Tuesday night meeting, one of our separated friends offered to debate on the question of fellowship as affected by wrong views on inspiration. We answered privately that we were prepared to debate with those who denied inspiration, but should regard it as a waste of time to debate a question on which, after much controversy, the minds of the brethren were made up. Such a discussion could be of no public benefit. Debate is only serviceable when it can be made a means of serving the truth by exhibition in sharp issue with error in public. There are debates which could only have the effect of lowering and weakening the truth in the eyes of the public without any compensating advantages to those who take the side of error. Such debates belong to the category of “striving about words to no profit but the subverting of the hearers,” which Paul forbids. In these we decline to engage, whatever may be said in the way of taunt. We are no lovers of debate. We never submit to it except as a means to an end. There are those who love it for its own sake. They are all alive when there is something to be debated, and all dead when the only attraction is the thing established in debate. This is not the spirit of the truth. Those who are of the truth have David’s relish for its positive verities, and David’s aversion to the mere strife of tongues, which led him to wish the wings of a dove that he might “fly away, and be at rest” ( Psa. 15:6 ).

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Chdn. 1892, pg. 360  Worcester (Mass.).—“It is a good while since we sent you any intelligence from this place. We are still earnestly contending for the one faith in its purity, ‘keeping our garments unspotted from the world,’ and preparing ourselves for the return of our Divine Lord, for whose return we daily watch and wait and pray. We continue every first day to remember Him in the appointed way, and to set forth some phase of the glorious promises made of God unto the fathers, and the near approach of our great High Priest and elder brother. The brethren and sisters of this Ecclesia are united in the strongest ties of love and unity, and our prayer is that the Master when he comes will find us a united happy band, having no fellowship with any except those who hold in high esteem the Bible as a wholly-inspired and infallible guide for the children of men. It we are ever taken in on this matter, it will not be knowingly. We wish to acknowledge that we were taken in unawares about a year ago by a brother Healey, of whom we learned afterwards that he was in fellowship with those who believe in a partially inspired Bible. We also had brother Jas. Stokes apply for fellowship, but on being questioned as to his faith we found that he was not a believer in the inspired word of God. When asked if he could prove any of the Bible to be inspired his answer was that he could not, but he thought that the question of inspiration ought to be left an open question. What an absurd position for a man claiming to be a Christadelphian. This Ecclesia could not entertain the thought for a moment. We are in hope of other additions to our Ecclesia soon. We held our annual fraternal gathering the 4th of July, at brother Goddard’s, some four miles north of the city. We had the pleasure of several visitors, namely, brother Joshua Eastwood, and wife of Lawrence Mass, sister Cullingford, of Hitchburgh, Mass., brother and sister Bariow, brother George Handley (and a young man not yet in the faith) of Providence. R.I. Also brother Corney and sister Boynton, of Spencer, Mass. Our morning meeting opened at 10–30. At 7 o’clock we started for home, everyone feeling that we had had a good and a profitable time—a foretaste of the things to come.— C. C. Mann .

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Here is an interesting note from bro. Roberts dealing with a matter "world wide."  A group of brethren in Pittsburg were separated, one faction (the one responsible for the following note) is in fellowship with the separated brethren at the Masonic Hall, and the other group in fellowship with Birmingham, Temperance Hall.  The Masonic Hall group sent correspondence to the Christadelphian, and it was published.  The group in fellowship with Temperance Hall protested and clarified the issue.  Now the matter was straight, and group in fellowship with Masonic Hall, would no longer be regarded as in fellowship.  The group out of fellowship wanted some details straightened out, which bro. Roberts allowed.  But the matter remained unchanged. 

The important point is that the fellowship standard established in Britain, was established throughout the world, and the Temperance Hall fellowship, and the (now called) Masonic Hall fellowship, were completely distinct organizations, and they had no fellowship with each other.  The new group had their own magazine, recorded their own correspondence; and the two groups went on with life, except for the occasional shift in position by brethren.

Chdn. 1892, pg. 443-444  Pittsburgh (Pa.)—“Will you please insert the following in the Christadelphian :—‘There is a notice in the March number of the Christadelphian from brother Mosley, of West Bromwich, referring to intelligence in the February number from the Pittsburgh (Pa.) U.S.A. Ecclesia. There is a mistake or two in brother Mosley’s communication I wish to rectify. At the time of the division at Great Bridge I, Charles W. Hardy, had not obeyed the truth, and therefore cannot be included in the five referred to. Secondly, the other four did not go from the separated meeting. It was brother Mosley and those who followed him who separated themselves from the old original ecclesia at Great Bridge. Thirdly, the four referred to believe now as they did then and always have done, that the Bible is the Word of God, and is the only book given by God to men that contains the will and purpose of the Deity in regard to this earth and mankind. That in this Book alone is shown the way to life eternal. This position I endorse myself.— Chas. W. Hardy .”

[This is satisfactory so far, but not entirely so, We insert it merely because the persons affected have been called in question in the Christadelphian , and might feel they have a right of reply, which they have under the circumstances. The reply leaves matters where they were. Brother Mosley separated himself from a body that refused to avow belief in the wholly-inspired character of the Scriptures as a condition of fellowship, and who, therefore, made themselves parties to the great wrong that was being done by the advocacy in our midst of partial inspiration. The said body is in fellowship with those in Birmingham and elsewhere who befriended partial inspiration. Brother Mosley had, therefore cause to impugn the intelligence from Pittsburgh in the way he did, and the foregoing answer does not dispose of his objection.— Ed. ]

WEST BROMWICH

Chdn. 1892, pg 483  The arranging brethren of this ecclesia call the attention of the Pontypool ecclesia to the fact that brother Challinger (printed Challinor), concerning whom intelligence appears in the September Christadelphian , was not of our ecclesia, but was a member of the Partial Inspiration Meeting at Great Bridge. The Lectures for the month have been:—October 9th, brother Mosley; 16th, brother Bower (Birmingham); 23rd, brother Hughes (West Bromwich); 30th, brother Hollier (West Bromwich). We had the company of bro George Walford .

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The following is a really clear, simple, and to the point statement by bro. Roberts.  Belief in the truth is not a sufficient basis for fellowship, if you fellowship with error.  That is what Bereans believe.

Chdn. 1892, pg. 484  W. S.—The belief of the truth is not a sufficient basis of fellowship if it be allied with wrong-doing or nullifying doctrine. We are commanded to withdraw when that is the case, as you know, and from those who would countenance the wrong even if they would not themselves perpetrate it. You would recognise this in the case of drunkenness, or the denial that Jesus came in the flesh. There are various forms of wrong-doing and spiritual leaven. When your discernment is quickened, you will see that the doctrine of partial inspiration (or the toleration of it in fellowship) is in the category.

Chdn. 1893

Bro. Roberts encounters a Baptist who understands truth, but is unwilling to leave the Baptists, due to all the good he can do among them.  Does this not sound like our Nicodemite brethren?  Bro. Roberts tells him that while he remains a Baptist, he is responsible for fellowshipping Baptist principles.  Is this not the same thing we cease not to warn our Nicodemite Central brethren about. 

Bro. Roberts brings out another point, sometimes referenced by bro. Thomas in his "hounds and hares" comparisons, which I believe is a more significant and dangerous problem for our Nicodemite brethren.  Not only do the Nicodemite brethren support brethren who are astray, they fail to offer aid and support to those few brethren striving to obey divine precept.  I suspect that this is the worse problem.  I really see nothing wrong with trying to educate and help those brethren who have gone astray.  This work is a testimony to that.  But I know I could never fail to associate myself with, and work hard in support of the poor and feeble community of brethren who are acting in obedience to God's commands. 

Chdn. 1893, pg. 31  "Journeyings by the Editor"  November 26th.—A rapid journey in the dark (commenced at 7 p.m.), in two hours covered the 110 miles or so, that lie between Birmingham and Bristol. These enforced idlenesses in the train give opportunity for many thoughts—some too subtle to be expressed, some too heavy to be carried—all large, wide, and more or less laboured. But an end comes to all mortal exercises once in 24 hours, as there is bound to come the supreme ending once in a lifetime. In the 24 hours’ arrangement, we stop to begin again. It will not be so with the life-stopping. We shall truly resume thought at the resurrection, but not in the weak and laboured fashion that belongs to mortal man walking in the darkness. Strength and light, efficiency and joy belong to the immortal. We have to hurry on to this mighty goal, saying to each little duty, and each episode—pleasant or otherwise, “This is the way to the kingdom for us.”—At the end of the journey, two sisters, Mills and Bellamy, waited the train, and conveyed me, via a suburban line, to the house of brother Palmer, in Shaftesbury Avenue. Many women—shall I like Solomon say most women?—are insipid and frivolous. If I do so, it is not because men are usually wise. It is only the impartial noting of facts. How lovely it is when it is otherwise, when knowledge and wisdom, and intellectual interest are allied to the grace and kindliness that naturally belong to the gentler sex. “A woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.” True sisters are women who fear God and delight in all His ways. It is a double pleasure to meet such. To have a convoy of such is a small spark of Heaven below. At the house of brother Palmer, three brethren peeped in and saluted and departed, almost with the rapidity of a pistol shot. How is it that people you like are as coy and scary as the fawn, while those who always give you a capital opportunity of exercising charity &c., &c. (the discerning reader can finish the sentence).—Under brother Palmer’s kindly and hospitable roof, a good night’s rest brought the light, and in due time the meeting for breaking of bread at Oddfellows’ Hall, where there was a goodly muster of brethren and sisters, including visitors from adjacent parts. Brother Thomas, of Bath, presided. Brother Mills (whose enterprise I would praise if I were not afraid of wounding) had inserted in the public advertisement of the evening lecture a statement of the subject that would be treated of in the morning’s address at the breaking of bread. Not a single stranger responded to the call. Perhaps it was because the stranger did not feel called to the morning meeting; for in the evening, he came in large numbers that filled the hall. The subject: “Heaven upon earth by and bye”; Brother Morris presiding. In the audience were several interesting people who stayed behind to have a chat. One was a gentleman who thoroughly believes the truth and shows the liveliest interest in it, but who has not yet realised that the belief of it brings with it the duty of separation from those who believe it not. He was remaining with the Baptists, and thought he might do an acceptable work to God among them. I pointed out that according to Bible precept, he made himself responsible for Baptist doctrines by remaining in fellowship with them, while on the other hand, he practically turned his back on the feeble community that were struggling for God’s sake against tremendous odds to keep the flag of Bible truth aloft in the world. He answered all questions in the frank and unreserved manner of a thoroughly honest man. I shall be surprised if a man of his Nathanael type should be able for any length of time, to keep a position which he must find more and more untenable as he makes increasing progress in the knowledge of the Scriptures. Another gentleman was brother Mills’s father, who seemed favourably disposed to the truth. but complained of the condemnation of others who were sincere according to their light. I told him it was from no love of condemnation, or lack of respect or sympathy for honest men that the advocates of the truth appeared in so offensive a light. It was a simple question of what were God’s requirements of men under the gospel as originally promulgated by the apostles. If an earnest man had knowledge of what these were, he could not but be definite and strong in enunciating them in their bearings against an error-filled world like that in which we lived. Earnest men would enquire whether the contention was true—not whether it was unkind; because if it was true it could not be unkind, however apparently so. No, doubt truth could be spoken in an unkind way, and of that I offered no defence.—Another was a lady, who was once with us, but is now in uncertain waters. She wished to be friendly; but friendliness off the right foundation is a weakly, withering thing. The flesh is a fading flower; and we are all flesh. The truth belongs to the eternal, and friendship here is as stable as the universe. I advised her to reconsider her position. I thought my advice was not welcome. There will come a day when things will appear in a very different light from what they appear now.

BATH

Chdn. 1893, pg. 33  Since our last we have, in addition to our usual meetings, had a visit from brother Roberts, who gave us a lecture on Monday, November 28th, to a good audience. Subject: “Where did the Bible come from, what is it for, and why do people so generally fail to understand it?” We have also had a visit from brother Guest, of London, who lectured Sunday, 11th December. Subject: If a man, shall he live again?” The meeting was well attended. Brother Cox has removed from London (Fulham Ecclesia) to this place. He was enlightened in the truth in this city, but moved to London, where he obeyed the truth. He has now declared for a wholly-inspired Bible, and his determination not to fellowship partial inspiration. Sisters Rowell, Chipping Norton, has paid us a visit during the month. Sister Gertrude Daniels was immersed November 3rd, and not May the 3rd as reported.— J. Thomas .

LONDON (NORTH)

Chdn. 1893, pg. 36  Barnsbury Hall, Barnsbury Street, Islington, Sundays: 11 a.m. and 7 p.m.; Wednesday and Friday: 8 p.m. —Brother Owler reports that during the month several additions have been made to the ecclesia. On December 7th, Mrs. Pella Woodruffe , wife of brother T. Woodruffe, was immersed into the saving name in the appointed way. Sister Hamer has left London for Leeds. We have received back in fellowship from Wellington Hall (which left on the inspiration question in 1885) brother and sister King, Sister Alice King, brother Pyle and brother Blay. Sister Crawley, of Newton Abbott, has also come to reside in London, which we omitted inadvertently at the time. The attendances on Sunday evenings are well maintained.

NORTHAMPTON

Chdn. 1893, pg. 37  Sister Lizzie Cole (of Leicester), has come to reside here; through being united in marriage to brother Thorneloe. We have also received into our fellowship, brother and sister Eling, late of Lincoln, who have previously been on “the Other Side,” but have now subscribed to our Basis of fellowship. Lectures for the month have been as follows:—“Prophecy” (brother Wood, of Tamworth); “Treasures in Heaven” (brother Batty, of Birmingham); “What is a Soul? Can it die?” (brother E. Challinor, of Birmingham); “Christ’s work on earth not yet complete” (brother Smither, of King’s Lynn).— G. Handley .

Chdn. 1893, pg. 71  Birmingham Miscellanies  Brother Joseph Dorricott has returned to our fellowship from the Masonic Hall. He left us at the time of the sugar troubles, but found no rest among those separated from us on inspiration. He ceased meeting with them over 12 months ago, and now desires to forget the past, and to set his face earnestly towards the Kingdom of God.

HEDNESFORD

Chdn. 1893, pg. 76  Brother Harry Jackson, jun., reports the obedience of Elizabeth Twigger , wife of brother Twigger; also of Samuel Cooper , husband of sister Cooper, jun., who put on the sin-covering name in the way appointed, the former being immersed at Birmingham and the latter at the house of brother Dawes. The number of the ecclesia has also been increased by the removal from Clydach Vale of brethren Berry and Green. The brethren in that locality were as sorry to lose them as the Hednesford brethren were glad to gain them. Also, brother Jackson reports the return of sister Genders to fellowship, she having expressed herself as being fully in harmony with the position taken by the ecclesia on the question of inspiration.

 

Chdn. 1893, pg. 120  Toronto .—I have much pleasure in reporting the addition of three to our numbers since last writing. Sister Cutler , wife of brother Cutler, senr., who since the separation has been meeting with the Cecil Hall party, having arrived at the conviction that the attitude we have assumed in regard to partial inspiration is the scriptural one, has thrown in her lot among us

KILMARNOCK

Chdn. 1893, pg. 154  Brother McDougall reports that the ecclesia here has recently passed through some trouble, arising from the necessity of withstanding the corruptions of partial inspiration and unsound views of fellowship, &c., &c., &c. The conclusion of his report, however, shows the healing of the trouble to some extent. It arose from brother Clelland’s, jun., association with some who are not in a sound position, which led the ecclesia to refuse its fellowship to him. On this his father and mother, brother and sister Clelland, brother and sister McCrindle, sister Culbert, and brother Culbert, junior, left in sympathy. Subsequently brother Culbert took a similar course to brother Clelland, which had to be similarly dealt with by the ecclesia. “Before sending in our report, the ecclesia was willing that an opportunity should be granted to those who had left, of returning to fellowship if an agreement on Scriptural grounds could be arrived at. Accordingly invitations to a meeting for this purpose were issued, to which they responded. This meeting resulted in brother and sister McCrindle resolving to return to our fellowship. They have now come to the conclusion that in order to be in a position to maintain the truth in its purity and entirety, it was absolutely necessary to avoid having association or fellowship with those who were separated from us on the question of inspiration and fellowship, &c., &c., &c., as they consider that to have fellowship with these would be equivalent to having fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, as they had become convinced by what they had heard while with them, that the Truth is not with them. Through lack of understanding the true character of the situation, they had considered the ecclesia had acted arbitrarily and without Scriptural warrant in refusing fellowship to brother Clelland, junior. But having discovered the facts, they have come to perceive that the ecclesia was not only just in its action in this case but had exercised much patience and forbearance.” Brother MacDougall concludes: “I need scarcely add that it gave us great satisfaction and joy to see brother and sister McCrindle in their old places at the breaking of bread on Sunday, 12th March.”

NEW ZEALAND

Chdn.  1893, pg. 200   Auckland .—“I am sorry to inform you that eleven brethren and sisters with myself had to separate from the Auckland ecclesia, owing to their alteration of basis, by cutting out the negative aspects and a belief in partial inspiration of the Scriptures. We meet each first day of the week at brother and sister Walker’s residence, Arch Hill, to remember the death of our Lord. Brother Matthews, originally of Birmingham, is one with us, but has left for Invercargill.”— S. Harrison .

NEWPORT (MON.)

Chdn. 1893, pg. 480  We have during the month received a very pleasing communication from Abergavenny, in which brother H. C. Edwards, solicitor (who has been appointed as recording brother, pro tem .), informed us that slightly more than half the Ecclesia, which hitherto has been in fellowship with “Partial Inspirationists,” have now cut themselves off from their old associates, and decided in favour of fellowship only with those who maintain “the complete Divine Inspiration, and consequent infallibility of the scriptures as originally written by God’s prophets and apostles.” They have always held the scriptures to be wholly inspired and infallible, but have heretofore maintained a neutral position in reference to the division caused some years ago by the agitation of the doctrine of partial inspiration. They have asked for help in the lecturing department, and we have arranged to send brother J. Lander for Oct. 15th, when a free discussion upon “Our Unity and Welfare, and the Interests of the Truth” has been decided upon by our brethren there. We hope to hear a good report from our brother when he returns.

Chdn. 1893, pg. 480  J. M.—The person you enquire of is not in fellowship with us. No doubt the partial inspiration community could tell you something of him.

LEEDS

Chdn. 1894 pg. 41  Wellington Road .—We are sorry to state that brother and sister T. E. Howe did not join the Huddersfield Ecclesia, as suggested last month, but those at Brighouse, who tolerate partial inspiration, &c., &c. Lectures this month have been by brethren Pickles, Grimes, and Suggitt.— G. B. Suggitt .

STOCKPORT

Chdn. 1894, pg. 408  It has been painfully evident to us during the past month that we are not yet beyond the dominion of the King of Terrors. On November 30th our sister, Jane Richardson, fell asleep, aged 26. She has been suffering from illness all the summer which developed into consumption. Our brother, Henry Mead, also fell asleep on December 1st, aged 79. Of him it can be said, he “came to his grave in a full age, like as a shock of corn cometh in his season.” He experienced the truth of the psalm concerning those who attain four score years, having for some time been partially disabled by rheumatism. We have laid our brother and sister away, taking comfort in the thought that they had hope of a better resurrection, and that our separation will not be a long one. It has been necessary for us to withdraw from brother Wm. Smith, as we find he fellowships those who support the theory of partial inspiration. The attendance at our public meetings has of late been encouraging.— S. F. Willson .

Victoria (B.C.). — Brother Drysdale takes occasion, in ordering some books, to say:—“I have just been in the truth about two and a half years. It was through reading your Christendom Astray and through talking with a brother Buckler that I was led to see the truth. I used to be a Presbyterian. I am sorry to see the trouble at present over the resurrectional responsibility question, and hope it will soon end.”

A. P. Blyth, on behalf of self and others, fearing they may be considered reprobates, writes a correction of Victoria intelligence, appearing in the January number of the Christadelphian . The correction, however, relates merely to details and not to the main act of their sympathy with partial inspiration. They say: “It is incorrect to say we would not subscribe to their ‘Constitution’ because we ‘had never considered the question’ of inspiration, we having been conversant with the ‘Inspiration Controversy’ from the beginning. We could not agree with their ‘Constitution’ because it demanded acceptance of a theory of inspiration which we could not endorse. We differ from them in our interpretation of several of the sayings of Christ and of the apostles, which, of course, does not necessarily mean a ‘loose interpretation’ as a matter of fact. Then, again, we are accused of speaking ‘evil of some of the brethren.’ This is behaviour we are not guilty of. But we did criticise the actions and sayings of such as yourself and other brethren who have taken part in the ‘Inspiration Controversy.’”

[That is to say, the main facts alleged are admitted, only they are described in the softer language of an elastic periphrasis. There was no need for the correction.— Ed. ]

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The following article is not related to the Inspiration Divisions, but sets the principles of fellowship as practiced by bro. Roberts so clearly, that it is impossible to leave it out.  The London ecclesia split.  Ecclesias "elsewhere" were perplexed as what to do.  Bro. Roberts explains, you can't fellowship both.  But isn't that exactly what our Nicodemite brethren recommend? This is a confirmation of bro. Robertson of Liverpool who made the same plea to the brotherhood in 1885, page 520.

Chdn. 1895, pg. 232

FELLOWSHIP DIFFICULTIES ON THE RESPONSIBILITY QUESTION

This is creating fellowship difficulties. The London brethren have divided, as all are aware, and visitors from London find themselves in a doubtful position when they go into the provinces. Even brethren in the provinces are asking, What are we to do? It is a painful issue, because of the doubt that many feel whether the form and degree of punishment to be awarded to knowing rebels against the light should be a question on which difference of view should interfere with fellowship. The solution appears to form itself under two heads—1, order; 2, doctrine.

On the first head, it is clear that where an ecclesia has split up into two mutually exclusive sections, ecclesias elsewhere cannot be in fellowship with both. The question of which section to fellowship would therefore be determined by the question of which section ecclesias elsewhere agreed with, because in all doubtful cases, the truth turns the balance.

It may be more satisfactory to see clearly under the second head—doctrine. The question as agitated has become more than a question of whether enlightened rebels will rise to punishment. It has become a question of God’s claim on the human race, and the principle on which He enforces that claim. The deniers of the resurrection of the disobedient say that they cannot rise because they are “condemned in Adam.” This is as much as to say that they have no sin of their own to answer for. As a matter of fact, this ground is boldly taken by some, that men are not to be considered sinners, except as in Adam; that is, they are “held guilty” of Adam’s sin, but not of their own. We have known of cases where the very obedience of the gospel in baptism has been denied to have any bearing on pre-baptismal sins.

All this has a much wider bearing than the mere question of whether rejectors will rise. It is not necessary to re-argue the question, and to shew the grounds on which it has been maintained from the beginning of the work of the truth that God has a claim on the submission of mankind, apart from their condemnation in Adam, and that their responsibility to this claim is a question of their knowledge of its existence, and of God’s demand for its discharge. It is sufficient to point out that a new doctrine is brought to us and an old one denied on the ground of a misconstruction of apostolic language. The “law of the spirit of life” is wrested from its meaning of immortal life, and made to apply to natural life, as if, when Christ said, “If thou wilt enter into life ,” he did not mean enter into immortality . The result of this misconstruction is to deprive the Gospel of its character as a testimony against the sins of men as well as an invitation to eternal life, and therefore to weaken its power in our hands. Not only so, but it comes in an aggressive attitude. It is no longer a dim and doubtful opinion as to the extent of the punishment of a certain class of offenders, but the dogmatic affirmation of the doubtful opinion as a principle of divine truth, and the challenge and condemnation of divine truth as a lie, and that too under the presumptuous claim to be a “keeper of the sanctuary.” This is a different situation, and has naturally forced the question of fellowship upon the attention of the brethren in London, where this departure from the truth has taken a formative and organic shape; and through them, has raised it everywhere. Time will re-form the shattered elements. Consistency ought certainly to keep all who think the sanctuary is being defiled from claiming fellowship with those whom they regard as guilty of this sacrilege. This consistency on their part will relieve the brethren who deny the charge from the embarrassment of having to say to them—“The basis of fellowship is unity of mind as to the ways of God. You have departed from the unity that existed. Therefore, the responsibility of the breach that has resulted is not ours.”— Editor

DERBY

Chdn. 1895, pg. 357-358  Athenæum, Victoria Street.—Sundays, 10–30 a.m. & 6.30 p.m.; Wednesdays, 8 p.m.We very much regret that brother B. Parsons has decided to cast in his lot with those who tolerate partial inspiration. We continue to let the light shine; but now, as ever, few come to the light.—W. Clark .

SOUTH AFRICA

Queenstown .—It is a considerable time since there appeared any intelligence from Queenstown. We have not been idle, but the reverse. The advent of brother and sister Harper, from Warrington, England, quickened the ecclesia into new life in the direction of a public effort. Hitherto we have not had brethren amongst us who felt equal to lecturing, but for the last three months we have had lectures by brother Harper every Sunday, and several seem interested. There seemed every prospect of spiritual prosperity until three weeks ago, when the inspiration question came to the front with disastrous results to the ecclesia. The origin of the matter was the arrival of a letter from the Secretary of the Fraternal Visitor to brother Bushell, enclosing one from a prominent brother intimating his desire to come out to South Africa for health sake if there seemed an opening in a business way. There was also a request for intelligence to be sent to the Visitor of the doings of the ecclesia. Objection was taken to the sending of any intelligence to an organ espousing a cause with which we had no sympathy; and while sympathising with the brother and desiring to help him, there could be no question of fellowship with anyone holding the doctrine of partial inspiration. It then became manifest that some in the ecclesia were willing to fellowship anyone and ask no questions on inspiration, and also espoused the cause of the party from whom the ecclesias have separated, contending that the doctrine of partial inspiration was not taught by the party represented by the Fraternal Visitor . Several meetings were held, and evidence produced from their own writings endorsing and advocating partial inspiration as the explanation of the errors to be found in the Bible. The upshot of the matter was that brother and sister Harper withdrew from the ecclesia, and followed by three others, brother Bushell retaining our meeting-room and contents. The following are the names of the brethren who are meeting together on the basis of a pure Bible. Brother and sister Harper, brother Aston, and brother and sister Gibson. At present we meet at brother Gibson’s for breaking of bread.— Geo. Gibson .

ABERDARE

Chdn. 1895, pg.  470  We regret that after a long absence from the table brother Eynon has now thrown in his lot with those who fellowship partial inspiration. We are encouraged, however, by having increased audiences at our lectures, as a result of an extra effort in the distribution of handbills.

MERTHYR

Chdn. 1896, pg 154  It is my painful duty to report our withdrawal from brother Samuels, in consequence of his persistence in making charges publicly against a brother, in opposition to the law of Christ. Our numbers are small—only five, but could be augmented if we would but lower the standard, and admit the advocates of partial inspiration. Though few in numbers, we feel individual effort to be as necessary as in larger ecclesias. We are still in our hired room, 51, Castle Street, where we meet every first day of the week to exhort one another, and “to shew forth the Lord’s death till he come.” We also do what we can to train up our children in the way of life, and sow the good seed on alien soil as opportunity offers. For two years we have kept before the public a standing protest against a false theology by advertising Christendom Astray in our local paper, with what results we know not; but this we know, no one has disputed the truth of the advertisement. Sister Jones, of the Mumbles, recently on a three weeks’ visit to relatives at Merthyr, has been one with us during her stay, and has cheered us by her presence. So would all others of like precious faith visiting here.— A. Jones .

Chdn. 1897, Pg. 404

ANSWERS TO CORRESPONDENTS

By the Editor .

A. F. C.—Jesus tolerated Judas because Judas outwardly conformed to the precepts of righteousness during the three years and a half that he sustained the part of “one of the twelve.” Jesus knew him, but did not act on a knowledge that could not have been appreciated by either Judas or the other disciples. He waited till Judas should reveal himself, which is the divine procedure with us all. Though a thief, he perpetrated his embezzlements under pious pretences: “Ought not this ointment to have been sold for three hundred pence and given to the poor?” If Jesus had expelled him from the apostolic body before his real character was manifest, it would have caused confusion, besides removing a needed instrument for the hour of betrayal.

Chdn. 1897, pg. 466-467  An anonymous “Plea for Unity” is being anonymously circulated in Birmingham and the country generally. Anonymous productions are not usually entitled to much respect, but a glance at one or two remarks in this may not be an unwarrantable departure. Passing over its veiled personalities, and coming to the matter that brought disruption, we notice the writer says:—

“As regards their inspiration we are all, as a matter of fact, agreed upon this point, at least so far as my experience goes, we have never met with a brother who does not believe in the inspiration of the Scriptures; but we have met with some who do not believe in the inspiration of all the Bible, because, though the Bible contains all Scripture truth, it contains in addition many interpolations, many of which were detected and expunged when the revised translation was made.”

He ought to remember that the author of the “Exegitist” article on partial inspiration affirmed that imperfection of the original Scriptures. (See the summary of the matter in the pamphlet “The Inspiration of the Bible”); and the “Exegitist” itself can be produced if necessary. It was the toleration of this doctrine that raised the “barrier” which remains to this day, and can be removed only by agreement in the truth. “Can two walk together except they be agreed?” The writer of the “Plea for Unity” continues in justification of diversity of opinion in opposition to the unity of mind that the Scriptures inculcate:

“I suppose there are not two to be found who hold in every particular the same views as each other Those portions of the Scripture which God has intended to be held uniformly by us as vital are plain and easy to understand, and are understood and believed by us. But in dubious or doubtful passages about which different views are held each and every one of us should have the freedom to decide for himself when he sincerely believes his views to be the truth of the matter; to our own master we either stand or fall.”

Which “portions” are these? How does the writer know what “God has intended?” “The Scriptures cannot be broken” is the saying of Christ, who hesitated not to hang an argument on a word, and in hearing whom we hear Him who sent him. The suggestion that a body of “delegates with full power to act” shall “finally settle the differences” is futile in the absence of that hearty agreement which would infallibly result in the manifestation and preservation of “the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.”—C. C. W.

Chdn. 1897, pg. 471-472  WOLVERHAMPTON. —I regret omitting to confirm the West Bromwich intelligence of a few months ago of the removal of brother and sister Hollier to this town, and we recently have been further gladdened by the addition brother and sister Wilkins, of Handsworth. Having for a long time been sincerely desirous that a re-union with the Opposition in this town (indeed general re-union if possible) could be accomplished, we ventured to make the first move with that object; so in May last ten of us made the following overture to the brethren here who are in fellowship with the Masonic Hall meeting:—“May 31st, 1897. To the brethren and sisters meeting in Stafford Street Co-operative Hall, Wolverhampton. Greeting. There are now ten of us in this town out of fellowship with you, and we purpose (if the Lord will) forming into an ecclesia, with the object of holding regular meetings as central as possible for all, but before doing so we should like to approach you with a view to re-union if such could be brought about, but please understand (to be brief) it would have to be upon what is known as ‘the Birmingham Temperance Hall basis.’ At the same time we don’t wish you to feel that you would be coming over to us, since we are in the minority. But we are each prepared to come over to you and join you heartily upon the above understanding. Therefore we make this overture to you, each desiring to pass the remainder of our sojourning here together with you (if possible) in the bonds of love and peace, forgetting those things which are behind, &c. If you entertain the idea, or have any suggestions or proposals to make, please let us hear from you as early as convenient. Meanwhile, yours with love. Signed, brethren and sisters Hollier, Clarke, Bennett, Ford , and Brooke .” On June 22nd we received the following reply:—“Dear brethren and sisters,—Greeting. Your letter of May 31st. We have given same our consideration, and beg to inform you that we believe in the inspiration of the Scriptures and we cannot deviate from it. Enclosed is a copy of our Rule 1, to which all desiring fellowship with us must assent. Should you entertain the idea of meeting with us on the above understanding, we shall have pleasure in taking you into fellowship with us. Meantime, yours, &c., A. M. Jordan , Secretary. P.S.—Rule 1. That we meet on the basis of the one faith as defined in the Scriptures, together with a rejection of the fables current in the religious world and that all who desire fellowship with us must assent to the same before fellowship is permitted.” This we considered to be simply an evasion and no reply to our letter in any sense, so we did not address them further. But to our surprise each of us received from them on September 20th the following note:—“September 20th, 1897. Dear brethren,—On Sunday last it was decided to hold a meeting on Sunday next, 26th inst., at 6.30 p.m., in the Co-operative Hall, Stafford Street, Wolverhampton, to discuss the question of a re-union with the brethren and sisters who are not in fellowship with this ecclesia, to which meeting you are cordially invited. Yours, &c., A. M. Jordan , Secretary.” So we naturally concluded that they had some concessions to make, but we found they refused to even look into the cause of the division or face the matter at issue in any way, but played upon the necessity of love merely, and professed to see no reason why we should not join them. The writer of this report asked them if they considered the Birmingham Temperance Hall basis to be unscriptural in any particular? And the reply was, No! Then the writer asked them why should they expect us to leave (or cut ourselves off from) that basis? To which we could get no response, excepting an assertion that their basis was quite as scriptural, as they had never changed. To which the writer (although wishing to avoid personalities) at once pointed out to them Paul’s excellent advice which they had unfortunately not respected, viz., Romans 16:17 , but they would not acknowledge the un-wisdom of their action in still supporting the Masonic Hall brethren, who, instead of “marking those who caused divisions contrary to the doctrine which we had learned,” and avoiding them, had condoned with and fellowshipped the leaders of it, who have since proved themselves unstable. However, no argument would convince them of their inconsistent position, and although they state they would not “knowingly fellowship any who holds partial inspiration of the Scriptures,” yet they fellowship others who are questionable. Still wishing to do all in our power towards re-union we finally expressed our willingness to unite with them providing all other ecclesias become reconciled, which we know must (if it ever obtains) be upon the Birmingham Temperance Hall basis. Brethren Hollier and Watkins also put questions, but could only get evasive responses.— C. A. Brooke .

Chdn. 1897, pg. 497-498  MERTHYR. —Our numbers are the same as when we last reported. We still meet at the Victoria Buildings, at 6 p.m. every first day of the week, to “exhort one another,” and “shew forth the Lord’s death till he come.” And we also do what we can to convince all “that the Lord has spoken good concerning Israel.” I write especially at this time to inform all whom it may concern that we have received a communication from the Aberdare ecclesia, dated November 8th, which reads as follows, viz.: “We are very pleased to inform you that union has been concluded between the brethren of Cwmaman and Aberdare upon the following basis:—1st. That we do not believe in the doctrine of the ‘partial inspiration of the scriptures,’ and will not fellowship with any who believe in such doctrine. 2nd. That we return to the basis which existed before the division of the brethren in 1885, it being understood that the first proposition be the only difference.—Signed, Wm. Marshall , Rec. bro.” While neither expressing approval nor disapproval on the action of the two ecclesias named, we thank the Aberdare ecclesia for informing us of the step they have taken, and hasten to inform through the Christadelphian all other ecclesias who are not so informed.— S. Jones .

[A very nebulous basis indeed, the value of which remains to be seen, and must be tested.—C. C. W.]

 

Chdn.1898, pg 92  Akron (O).—Brother Jas. Barnes sends an energetic rejoinder to the paragraph from Akron in the December issue. He emphatically denies the allegation of the holding of the partial inspiration doctrine by the Akron ecclesia. He says that out of their thirty-eight members “not one but believed and do now hold with Paul to Timothy, that all Scripture divinely inspired is profitable for doctrine, &c.” But that was not what Paul said to Timothy. He was speaking of the Holy Scriptures familiar to Timothy from childhood, and his assurance was that all these were God-inspired and profitable, &c. If the brethren with brother Barnes believe this, and will say so, their disclaimer will be of some weight. Their belief, as expressed above, leaves the door open for the thing complained of by those separated from them. As to the counter allegations of brother Barnes against the others, who but the Lord can straighten out all the crooked places? It is often impossible even to judge correctly at a distance.

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Chdn. 1898, pg. 124

CROSS CURRENTS IN ECCLESIAL WATERS

I.—Plea for Unsound Union

Before I left Birmingham, I said to brother Walker, “When I am gone there will be proposals for re-union, I have no doubt, with those who went out from us on inspiration. It is a question on which there can be no compromise. You will know how to deal with it.” I had not been many weeks landed in Australia, when a pamphlet was sent out to me which someone had put into circulation, entitled “A plea for unity.” The subject calls for the following remarks:—

Unity is a beautiful and desirable thing, but it has conditions that cannot be forced, and it requires no pleas. Where it exists, it asserts itself like a law of nature. Union may require its pleas; it is union the well-meaning brother means. He has used the wrong word.

Disunion exists because of the want of unity (oneness of mind). The author of the pamphlet would have the disunity ignored, and the union brought about in spite of it.

Union has advantages. There has been much talk of late years of “the re-union of Christendom.” The scheme is favoured by many who would sacrifice oneness of faith (or indeed faith of any kind) for the sake of seeing all sects fused into one church. It was supposed that the Pope himself was in favour of the scheme; so he was, provided all accepted the Roman Catholic faith, in which, so far as theory was concerned, he was more consistent than the rest.

Among ourselves, there was a similar movement twenty years ago. Records of it will be found on page 538 of the Christadelphian for 1877—under the heading “Proposal for Re-union.” In that case, the cause of disunion was disunity of mind on the subject of the nature and sacrifice of Christ. The remarks made then are applicable at the present time, when the particular disunion existing is due to disunity of mind on the more serious question of the character of the Holy Scriptures. We remarked then as follows: “Union and peace are results springing from preceding conditions” . . Those from whom separation took place “would rejoice to accept the restoration of fellowship if it were offered on the basis of truth accepted and error discarded: but they cannot accept it on the basis of a form of agreement which would cover up and compromise the real issue. . . To ‘let bygones be bygones’ is a reasonable proposal when the ‘bygones’ are of such a nature as to be sorrowed for and repudiated: but those to whom a return is proposed have no bygones to repent of so far as their course in this particular matter is concerned. They acted with a good conscience before God, with sorrow they were compelled to act, but seeing no alternative: and they are in the mind to act so again if necessity call for it—which God forbid. Their position now is the position they occupied then. If the issuers of this pamphlet desire to take part in this position as the result of a conviction that they have been seduced into a wrong position, those to whom they wish to return will gladly welcome their fellowship in it. But let there be no misunderstanding. There can be no union without unity.”

These remarks, just twenty years old, are strictly applicable to the present case. Agreement as to the wholly inspired and infallible character of the Scriptures is the very first condition of association on the basis of belief of what they teach. This agreement was broken by the promulgation of a theory to the effect that the Scriptures were partly human and erring. There were those who accepted this theory and those who could not, and there were those who were disposed to make it a matter of indifference. Cleavage was the inevitable result of such a situation.

The author or authors of the present “plea for unity” are not the only persons “saddened” by the “divisions and estrangements that have taken place,” but union without unity is not the remedy for the sadness. And union with unity will never be a general thing till the Lord is here. He said there would be division even in families about him. And it has been so; and it is not going to stop till he end it.

The only practicable rule of operation at present is fellowship on the basis of oneness of mind. It is a rule fraught with embarrassment and pain, but it is not of human appointment and cannot be set aside where faithfulness to the word of God is not extinct. To confound this rule with the Corinthian schisms that gloried in particular men after the flesh, is a serious mistake. The “plea” shows some heat against those who are described as “every assumed leader amongst us.” I suppose I am intended as one of those, and as such, I am to be “repudiated once and for ever.” There is either misunderstanding or malice here. I am no “leader” except as a man’s individual actions may influence others. I have always repudiated the imputation of leadership. I but do my own part on the basis of individual right. I claim no authority. I dictate to no man. I only act out my individual convictions, and advocate my individual views. Which of the demurring brethren do not do the same thing? Why should they find fault with me for doing what they do? If others are influenced by what I do or say, is this wrong? Is it not what the critics are aiming to do? An enlightened man would refuse to be responsible for such an unreasonable criticism.

If the remark is inspired by the malice of envy or the pain of being opposed, it cannot be reasoned with, and must be left. It is not the first time in the history of the work of God that accusations of taking too much upon them have been brought against those whose only crime has been unsought for prominence and influence in the carrying out of a faithful course.

These and other hostile allusions are in contradiction to the recommendation of the pamphlet to abstain from “any allusions of ill-will to any living brother,” and from all references to the occurrences of the past. Also, there is a want of correspondence between the timid anonymousness of the pamphlet and the appeal to heroic courage of “the three Hebrew children” in carrying out the course recommended—viz., the appointment of “delegates” to meet and “finally settle the differences which exist.”

This proposal stamps the author as either a neophyte or else as a man lacking experience of the ways of men as they are in fact, and not as seen through the distorting medium of newspaper columns. “Delegates” have no power to settle matters of faith, conviction, or duty. You may give them power to engage a hall or enter upon a printing contract, or any other secular matter in which you covenant beforehand to be bound by their decision. You cannot delegate the decision of spiritual issues. This is wholly a matter of individual responsibility in which no man can bind or absolve another. When you appoint “delegates” to settle questions of duty, you abdicate individual conscience and set up a spiritual tyranny akin to the “councils” which have already for ages desolated the world. The only practicable method of work in an age when God has chosen to be silent is for each man to judge for himself and as many as are of one mind to work together. The proposal to “appoint delegates with full powers to act,” and that “their decision for unity shall be final,” is the proposal of a man who may want peace (which is a good thing on the right foundation), but who does not understand what he is proposing. Unity is oneness of mind. The idea of delegates deciding that other people shall be of one mind is on a par with the idea of an Act of Parliament to settle the weather. If he says, “Oh, no; we mean oneness of association, and not oneness of mind,” then he is inviting us to ignore oneness of mind as the Scriptural basis of oneness of association. to which there can be but one answer. If oneness of mind be not the condition-precedent of oneness of association, then let us return to the churches and chapels with all speed. Why stand apart from the orthodox communions, with their many advantageous connections and associations, for the sake of a spiritual fad, if the one faith is not essential to the one body?

Twenty-one years ago, in the Christadelphian for 1877, I had to withstand an esteemed relative in words which I cannot do better that repeat, as entirely suitable to the present connection:—It is a thing apostolically enjoined, a thing commended by the highest reason (to contend earnestly for the faith in its integrity, and to stand aside from all who corrupt it). It is a thing, the absence of which in the first century, led to wholesale corruption, and would in our day have already destroyed the distinctive features of the truth. In the arduous battle for the truth, it is a thing beset with many difficulties, and a true friend of the spiritual order would not increase those difficulties by protesting against it, but would rather abet and encourage every tendency in the direction of faithfulness in this gloomy and unfriendly age. Then there is the proposition that “Christadelphianism is not a finality.” If this were our opinion, we should be found altogether elsewhere. We would not sacrifice present respectability and present ease for the sake of a thing admitting of uncertainty and requiring further “enquiry.” In this point we totally differ from all our critics. We are certain we have attained to the truth, we are positive, we have no doubt. The truth is not with us an object of search, or a subject of investigation, it is a possession and a finality, and this confidence is not a matter of assumption or an idiosyncrasy. It is founded on a lifetime’s incessant daily reading of the Scriptures. The critics may call this “infallibility,” but it is nothing more than reasonable confidence. A man does not require to be infallible in order to be certain that he sees the sun. Then the critics condemn confidence as to the teaching of the Word. They either mean that we never can reach to the full assurance of faith, or that their view of the case and not their neighbour’s is the infallible one. If the former be their meaning, they convict themselves of belonging to the class condemned in the Scriptures, who are “ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.” If the latter, it is a choice of infallibilities, and we do not hesitate to reject theirs.

“Progress” is a pretty word, and “stemming the current of progress” a dreadful crime, of course; but there is progress two ways, and we cannot accept the guidance of the critics as to when the progress is backwards and when forwards. The backward progress of things in the first century was pushed forward with “good words and fair speeches, which deceived the hearts of the simple.” We are one with those who hold the truth as a finality, who do not require to “lay again the foundations”; but who, strong in faith and filled with all wisdom, are engaged in the work, not of discussing the truth, but advocating it for the development of a people who shall be found in all assurance of faith, looking and preparing for the second appearing of the Son of Man in power and great glory.

Paul commands the brethren to “all speak the same thing,” and to be “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” ( 1 Cor. 1:10 ). How strangely, by the side of this, does the statement of this pamphlet read: That “certain differences of opinion are necessary to progress,” and that these differences are to be “appreciated rather than otherwise.” What can we do but hold by Paul and reject the pamphlet. We can understand the sentiment of the pamphlet as applied to matters of science where knowledge comes from investigation, and investigation is stimulated by conflicting theory; but it is income prehensible in reference to the faith of Christ except on the hypothesis already rebutted—that this is a matter of uncertainty. The advocacy of “differences of opinion” as a matter of advantage among brethren will please well a certain class; but it will not find any favour among true saints who have come, and are helping others to “come unto the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God . . . being henceforth no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of men and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.” In fact this principle of unity, as opposed to “differences of opinion,” distinguishes the true brethren of Christ from mere opinionists, who have a smattering of the truth; but who, though “ever learning,” are never able to come to a knowledge of it.

To the charge of holding “that the knowledge of Scripture, in the writings of Dr. Thomas, has reached a finality,” we plead guilty. If we were ignorant or unfamiliar with the Scriptures, or were like those who when they attempt to write or speak, have to look at them through the telescope of dictionaries, concordances, and such like, we should not have ground sufficient to entertain this conviction; but our acquaintance with them in daily intercourse for a lifetime enables us to be confident on the point. Our reading has not been confined to the Scriptures, or to the writings of Dr. Thomas. We have read what others have to say in many realms of human thought. We have, therefore, all the materials to form a judgment; and our judgment is distinctly to the effect imputed—that, in the writings of Dr. Thomas, the truth is developed as a finality, and that they are a depôt of the Christian doctrine. In this sense we are “committed to Dr. Thomas.” Dr. Thomas has been laid aside in the grave for a season; and so long as God permits life and health, we shall defend the mighty results of his labours against all ridicule and opposition from friend or foe. Were he in the land of the living, some who are in hostility would be in a different attitude towards him. When he reappears, they will be ashamed. Meanwhile, God, who used him in the doing of His work, lives to note the gap made by his death, and the results which were not unforeseen to Him. In His sight, and with His help, we shall hold fast to the truth brought to light by his means; and, please God, will rejoice with him at the near-impending realisation of all the hopes of the saints, in the day when the bitterness of present warfare will only add sweetness to the hour of triumph. We shall try and endure the odium which calls this a dictatorial spirit. The clear perception, strong choice, and resolute defence of that which is true and good is not the offspring of dictation; nevertheless, if enemies or friends choose to consider it so, we must heed them not. It is this spirit that enables a man to say at last, “I have fought a good fight: I have kept the faith.”

We recognise in sorrow and compassion, the painful position of all men who love the good things revealed in the Scriptures, and incline to pursue the course that is right, and yet find themselves in a strait between their desire to live peaceably with all men, and their resolution to walk in faithfulness to the Gospel to which they have been called. We have from the beginning suffered from this agonising embarrassment, and can sympathise with all who suffer in the same way. This sympathy takes off the edge of the resentment we should feel at the odiums cast upon us by many who love peace and misunderstand our attitude. At the same time, it cannot relax enlightened determination to persevere in the policy of the past. Dr. Thomas recommended that policy, and we have found it the only practicable one; to give the truth the benefit of all doubts, and to accept such co-operations only as uncompromising loyalty to it might allow. There are, of course, extremes in the application of this principle to which Dr. Thomas himself did not go, and to which we cannot lend ourselves—(where unrevealed details admit of variety in opinion). But as regards the great general truths involved in “the things concerning the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ,” there is no tenable ground between returning to the churches, or restricting our ecclesial associations to those who yield an unqualified assent to these elements of truth. First among these elements of truth is the character of the Bible as the product of divine and unerring inspiration. No “pleas” for union can be listened to which in any degree leaves this an open question.

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As bro. Roberts' probation expires, the ecclesias continue to fight the same battle.  Note that the position of Cardiff is consistent over the 12 years of controversy, claiming to handle each problem at their door.  And the position of the ecclesias in fellowship with bro. Roberts is consistent as well.  If you can't declare for the truth, and withdraw from all other not declaring for the truth, you cannot remain in fellowship.

Chdn. 1898 pg. 134  SWANSEA .—Here the ecclesia has been involved in trouble on account of attempts elsewhere to bring about reunion without the necessary oneness of mind as its basis. The Swansea brethren have felt it necessary to issue a statement explaining the situation. The following are extracts from it:—

Inspiration and Fellowship, Swansea .

On October 19th, 1897, Aberdare informed the Swansea ecclesia they were united in fellowship with brethren at Cwmaman. Swansea, understanding this to mean that Cwmaman had changed their attitude with regard to the Temperance and Masonic Halls, Birmingham, expressed their satisfaction. Very shortly, it appeared the action of Aberdare had been misunderstood by Swansea, and that, instead of Cwmaman having come over to Aberdare, the act of Aberdare had placed the brethren there in fellowship with Cardiff; and that it was supposed Swansea was now united to ecclesias they had been compelled to hold aloof from for a period of years. Swansea, therefore, enquired of Aberdare, if Cardiff were in fellowship with the Masonic Hall, Birmingham, stating, “if so, Swansea was unable to fellowship Cardiff.” To this a somewhat indefinite reply was returned, and explanations were made personally to brother Pugh, who was present at an Arranging Meeting, Swansea, and who said that “Aberdare had been drawn into allying itself with Cwmaman and Cardiff, through misleading statements to the effect that the said ecclesias were not in fellowship with the Masonic Hall.” This was communicated to the R. B., Aberdare, and, in response (November 29th, Aberdare asked for a meeting of ecclesias concerned, “to remove misunderstandings.” Swansea, therefore, wrote asking Cardiff “to state definitely if the Cardiff ecclesia had renounced the fellowship of the Masonic Hall, Birmingham, and allied itself with the Temperance Hall, Birmingham.” Cardiff answered, “they had never taken sides,” that “they dealt with individual cases as they came up,” and that their position was expressed in the following, which they read when strangers appear among them: “We believe the Bible to be a true representation of the Original Scriptures, as given by the inspiration of God, and we desire the fellowship of those only who believe the same.” The decision of the Swansea Arranging Brethren, communicated to Cardiff, was that “they reget to find the position of the Cardiff ecclesia is unchanged.” As Aberdare elected to retain the fellowship of ecclesias with whom Swansea is not in fellowship, it became necessary to lay the following proposition before the brethren here:—

Proposed by brother Randles, and seconded by brother Tilling:—

That the correspondence which we have recently had with the Cardiff ecclesia, has shown that they are not in a position in which we can fellowship them; their attitude on the question of the Inspiration of the Scriptures being the same as it was twelve years ago.

That the controversy on the Inspiration of the Scriptures was then decided by this ecclesia, and the belief and attitude adopted by the Temperance Hall ecclesia were then upheld.

That the Cardiff, Cwmaman, and other ecclesias were unable to take the same stand as ourselves; but on the other hand adopted the position taken by the Masonic Hall ecclesia, Birmingham, and thus placed themselves out of our fellowship.

That the recent act of the Aberdare ecclesia in extending their fellowship to the Cwmaman and Cardiff ecclesias is a surrender of the position taken by the Aberdare ecclesia twelve years ago.

That we cannot compromise ourselves with regard to the Inspiration of the Scriptures by recognising and approving such surrender.

That we, consequently, hereby regretfully declare the Aberdare ecclesia out of our fellowship, unless they retrace their steps and take up the same position, with regard to the Inspiration of the Scriptures, which they took twelve years ago, to which position this ecclesia still adheres.

The consideration of this proposition was postponed for a month, during which time many efforts were made, in private, to show Aberdare that it had involved itself in a matter of wrong fellowship. It was afterwards carried.

A brief review of the Inspiration Controversy of twelve years ago is appended, and it is shown that Bible-nullifying views exist to this day among those who refused to repudiate the doctrine of partial inspiration.

Chdn. 1898, pg. 176  SWANSEA. —We very much regret to announce the loss of brother and sister Hughes, by removal to London, where they will be united with the Brixton ecclesia. It will not be easy to fill the position in which brother Hughes has so well served the brethren in Swansea. The last three months have been much occupied with the consideration of fellowship with Aberdare. We have sent you a printed statement of the whole case. At present, we regret to say we are not in fellowship with Aberdare, owing to that ecclesia having allied itself with the Masonic Hall, through Cwmaman and Cardiff. Every effort was made to bring about a right attitude on the part of Aberdare before taking the final step, but, so far, without success. — Thomas Randles .

Chdn.  1898 pg. 218  ABERDARE. —A communication is to hand from brother Marshall, stating the circumstances under which Aberdare united with Cwmaman, and afterwards with Cardiff, and therefore with the Masonic Hall ecclesia in Birmingham, who say in the latest circular issued that “information is not available that will enable us to affirm the absolute absence of error from the original Scriptures.” The position of Aberdare is substantially as reported in recent intelligence from Swansea, which correctly described it as a “surrender.”

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We see an interesting final note, as the matter closes for bro. Roberts.  Ferndale announces that they withdrew from some over the doctrine of resurrected rejectors, which had been raging in the brotherhood since 1894, but has been ignored in this over view.  Those leaving Ferndale, were immediately received into fellowship in Aberdare.  So we have seen the Dowieites withdrawn from, who received the Clean Flesh folks when they were withdrawn from, who received the partial inspirationist folks when they were withdrawn from, and now willing to receive those who believed that enlightened rejectors will not be judge.  When you are willing to ignore error in fellowship, your fellowship becomes quite large. 

Chdn. 1898 pg. 174   FERNDALE. —Although our reports do not appear very often, we are still endeavouring to keep the word of life before our fellow-mortals that are in darkness. We have been encouraged by other additions to our number in the way appointed. On December 12th, Ernest Hooper (24), formerly Salvation Army; Henry Hooper (18), formerly neutral; William Williams (29), formerly Calvinistic Methodist; March 5th, Edith Cadogan (27), sister in flesh to brother Arthur Cadogan, formerly Church of England. At our last business meeting the following resolution was adopted:—“That we believe that the Scriptures teach that enlightened rejectors will be brought forth to resurrectional judgment, and therefore we will not fellowship any who believe or teach otherwise.— T. Richards .

Chdn. 1898, pg 219  FERNDALE. —Since last report, there has been a secession among us. Brother T. Richard, recording brother, his sister-wife and daughter, brother Reece Jones and sister - wife and son, and three more young brethren, have renounced the position they held as shown in the Christadelphian for last month (see Ferndale intelligence) and have joined in fellowship with the Aberdare ecclesia, who, it will be understood, are not standing clear in regard to the “Partial Inspiration Controversy.”— Isaac Smith .

Bro. Roberts probation now ends.  The matter of fellowship will be greatly compromised as a result of the workings of the next editor, bro. C. C. Walker.  Exactly what happened with bro. Walker is hard to say.  Historically, it would seem that the association of bro. C. A. Ladson with bro. Walker was not a good thing.  He was reluctant to stand against him when he needed to, and the end result was a collapse of many of the doctrines held dear during the first forty years of the truth.

In 1956, the exact wording consistently refused by bro. Roberts in the above material, was accepted by the Temperance Hall brethren, by this time called "Central" fellowship.  It took awhile, but bre. Ashcroft, Chamberlain, and Hadley won...for now!  The ideas expressed in the "Open Door" won...for now!  J. J. Andrew won...for now!  What is lamented on the web sites, hosted by our Central "Nicodemite" brethren, is simply the outworking of the policies bro. Roberts protested against with such vigor.  He warned that if the inspiration of the Scriptures was permitted in the slightest manner, then it would only be a matter of time before all doctrines came under attack.  We are now 60 years beyond the acceptance of partial inspiration, and what Church doctrine has not been printed in some Central publication?  Was the crowning corruption the Endeavour magazine arguing that the Trinity, and the doctrine taught by bro. Thomas was the same doctrine?  One would think so, but it will only get worse as Jezebel is suffered to seduce God's servants.

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