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Subject Questions & Answers with Shayk Abu Hamza

Questions & Answers with Shayk Abu Hamza Wednesday, February 19th, 6:30-9pm

Speaker: Shayk Abu Hamza Venue: Oxford House, Derbyshire St., Bethnal Green, London E2.

By: Shahin [Eaglet1163@yahoo.co.uk]

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I received this invitation:

“Dear Brothers and Sisters
We are honoured to announce an evening of Questions and Answers with Scholar, Daiee and Mujahid Shayk Abu Hamza.

As Muslims we are ordered to verify news that comes from disbelievers, hence the media distortions should be shunned in favour of direct dialogue. Inshallah we would like to provide you with the opportunity to openly question the Shayk directly on any matter related to Islam. “

I did not have to be asked twice to attend, because Abu Hamza is known for speaking the truth without fear or favour. You may disagree with him, but you cannot doubt the sincerity of the man.

The last time I heard him give a talk was on 9th October 2002 in Central London. Prior to that event I had negative opinions of him as a speaker: I thought he was a ‘fanatic’ incapable of saying anything other than “support the Taliban” after hearing him give a sermon at the Finsbury Park Mosque in 1995. I failed to see how supporting an organization, which had been established by the Pakistani secret service with the backing of the CIA and the Saudi regime, would be in the interest of the Ummah. Had British Muslim men gone to Afghanistan, the Taliban would have imprisoned most of them for the crime of not having facial hair and there was Abu Hamza having the cheek to ask us to send money to them!

I avoided attending the Finsbury Park Mosque for a several years. However, I changed my mind and decided to attend Abu Hamza’s talk in October 2002 as by that time he was universally reviled by Kuffar (Non Muslim) organizations such as the FBI (Federal Bureau of Incompetence as far as I am concerned) and all other bodies and institutions which make it their business to slander, and attack Muslims whether it be by words or deeds. He had earned the anger and hatred of the Kuffar, as was evident in the attacks upon him in the Kuffar press such as the Evening Standard and Sun etc. Therefore, I decided that he ought to be heard. The fact that the enemies of the Ummah hated his guts certified his credentials as a sincere Muslim with the good of the Ummah at heart. Moreover it established in my mind that whatever he said would come straight from the soul based upon his fear of Allah. I had also learned by then that he lost both hands and an eye while performing military Jihad in Afghanistan against the Kuffar Russians. That told me that his love for his fellow Muslims was unquestionable and immense, which elevated him above his detractors for whom a sacrifice would mean avoiding their favourite breakfast cereal for a day perhaps.

I am glad I attended Abu Hamza’s talk in October 2002. It was a good presentation. He spoke with clarity and in a captivating style, punctuated by his inimical earthy humour. The audience extended the duration of the talk with their numerous questions – the best kind of appreciation!

I arrived late at the Question and Answer session on February 19th but still got an hour of the presentation. There were two journalists from the newspapers – one from the Evening Standard. A BBC documentary film crew was also present. This is how Abu Hamza performed: –

Abu Hamza’s replies to questions from the audience:

Question: what are the real reasons behind America’s war against Iraq?

Reply:

America has seen a trend of rising unemployment and fewer resources in its economy. The East has resources and cheap manpower. The problem for America as a consumer of resources is that many Third World countries will want greater control over their resources and their affairs in general. America wants greater control over the Third World’s resources. They are already in the Arabian Gulf and want an endless supply of cheap oil. If they leave matters alone for much longer they foresee a rise in Islam in the Middle East. They need to take over the land and punish those who oppose them.

American soldiers help to reduce unemployment, as the military is a major employer. The Zionists have ambitions in Iraq too. They need certain events to take place at certain moments, which they have in common with American Christian Fundamentalists. The two are collaborating to help bring about Armageddon – the massive world war before the coming of Christ. American Christian Fundamentalists believe in the return of Jews to Israel, the rise of an anti-Christ, a new world government and a final battle of Armageddon as key features in God's plan. This must be fulfilled preparatory of the Second Coming of Christ. The Zionists are very happy to cooperate as they receive huge amounts of aid from the Christians in the interest of hurrying along Armageddon which is believed will take place in the Middle East.

The September 11 attack was designed by the Zionists to speed up the attack on Iraq and to control Muslims before they got out of hand. The removal of Saddam Hussein was a crucial part of the strategy because they saw Iraq as their biggest potential threat to them gaining total mastery of the Middle East. Israel would have to win broad American support for the plan to succeed.

Four months before the September 11 attacks, there were demonstrations everywhere supporting the Palestinians against Israel. So, another news item had to be created to demonise Muslims. In the meantime, many naïve Muslims in the USA thought that they could play the same political game as the Zionists by forming their own lobby group similar to the Zionist lobby. They began lobbying American politicians. Initially they had some success. The world began opening its eyes to Palestine. The Zionists saw they were losing the public relations battle. They realised something had to happen to put the Muslims in a bad light. Many Muslims see America as the root of the suffering of the Muslims. Some of them were used to carry out the attack.

The FBI, who planted a spy into an Islamic organisation, carried out the 1993 attack on the World Trade Centre. He was a criminal who was bribed to plant evidence upon sincere Muslims and then give evidence at court against them, which he did. Although the bomb went off in the basement, the building remained standing. So they had to try again.

Steel does not collapse. If you look at the sequence of events before the twin towers collapsed it looks like a series of explosions. The pictures show the symptoms of an explosion: - the flash of light and the dust being blown upwards against the force of gravity as in an explosion. (Abu Hamza used his knowledge of civil engineering to give a detailed account of how the building collapsed as a result of explosives being planted at key structural points).

The Zionists have a concept of ‘Eretz’ Israel, or Greater Israel. This includes present day Israel, and the whole of Arabia to Iraq. It also includes the holy cities of Mecca and Medina and is shown in one of their coins. The Zionists encouraged immigrations of millions not just from Russia and Eastern Europe but also from Ethiopia. They need to increase their population to help them achieve the aim of Eretz Israel.

American involvement in Israel is unquestionable. In the last three years what have been the resources to support the Israeli armed forces? They have no natural resources. They get their military funding from the USA and the major banks.

Q. What is your solution?

Reply:

The solution is in the Qur’aan and Torah (the eventual annihilation of the Jews has been predicted). They (the Zionists) are stupid. They are creating hatred for them throughout the world. Eventually, the people will not be sorry when that happens (the final annihilation of the Jews).

The Jews can live peacefully in the Islamic state as they did in the Ottoman Empire, when they even reached important positions in the Ottoman state. They are moving all the time to create trouble and ignite wars. They are igniting a war against Iraq. Allah is using the Western people against them as we saw in the march on Saturday.

Allah promised that the Jews would be the subject of torture and suffering for killing the Prophets and for their evil policies. They were cursed by the prophets Solomon and Jesus (peace be upon them). They see all non-Jews as no better than donkeys. They see themselves as God’s chosen people and superior to everybody else. If you are not from their lineage then you are booty to them.

Q. Will there be more show trials of Muslims?

Reply:

Yes. Especially in Germany where there are many Muslims. Britain is following that too. Here the police resisted the law to arrest on suspicion of committing terrorist offences. However, some police officers when they are after promotion will arrest on suspicion to make their work record look good.

The last defence for human rights is the justice system. Some judges are trying to be honest. Some are bribed. You expect the worst. We are living near in a condition similar to the Meccan time: - we have the right principles but not the power.

Government ‘scholars’ are telling us to avoid speaking the truth. We have to tell the truth without being insulting. People are frightened of coming to talks such as this one. There is a climate of fear amongst Muslims.

Q. What are your views on suicide bombings?

Reply:

According to Islam this kind of attack is not a suicide. You cannot sell your own soul. You are not supposed to harm your body. It is a major sin. It is not ‘kufr’ (disbelief). We cannot say for certainty that the one who commits suicide will go to the fire. Allah may forgive him. It is a martyrdom bombing if it is done in the cause of Allah. It is a tactic and not a strategy in response to certain actions by the enemy.

It qualifies as martyrdom when the following conditions are met:

1. It is in the cause of Allah – to raise the word of Allah. If you are attacking a Kuffar (Disbelieving) army then it is being done for the cause of Allah. Equally, it could be done to save the poor who do not have an army to defend them, even if they are not Muslim. These martyrdom operations act as a deterrent and are carried out by people who do not have a conventional army with weapons.

2. It has to be the only way to do the effect – it is a tactic of war. When Allah tells us to fight ‘them’ – He refers to the ones who are the enemies of His message so that they get torture and suffer disgrace at your (the Muslim’s) hands. These are the aims of the martyrdom bombings.

3. It heals the breasts of the believers. Sometimes people die from shock if all their money is stolen. What about those who lost their lands and their homes and their children? Who will fight for them? Because of these operations He gives repentance for those who he likes. It has an amazing effect for the morale of the innocent victims of Zionist crimes. The Ummah is short of weapons. Martyrdom operations are a tactic and it shows brotherhood. It shows that believers are willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake of Allah and the Ummah. What greater love is there?

Q. Some allege you are not qualified to be a proper scholar, in other words you are ignorant. What do you say to that?

Reply:

What qualifications did Omar (the second Khilafah and a companion of the Prophet) have? What Qualifications do all scholars have? They wrote books and had opinions. These big scholars did not have a special qualification qualifying them to be scholars.

It is important to be educated and have qualifications. But many scholars are now studying under the sponsorship of tyrants, which means they are compromised. Their qualifications are meant to satisfy the particular tyrant who is sponsoring them. As soon as a scholar differs from the ruler’s stance then he is kicked out.

In medieval times people had to rely on sheikhs who were plentiful and practically cheaper than paper! That is why they said you must rely on a sheikh. Today, information is available in books and computers. All one has to do these days is to read. You can even phone a scholar for an opinion. We have direct access to Islamic information these days.

Nobody can tell you that he is a sheikh to shut you up! These days’ compromised scholars try to shut up criticism by asking, “Who is your scholar?” as if only scholars have monopoly on the truth! When Omar told the people that they were paying too much dowry in one of his khutbas (sermons). A woman stood up from the congregation and told him that he was wrong and Omar thanked her for it! He did not ask, “Which scholar do you follow? What are your qualifications?”

If you speak on a matter of religion then all you have to do is to bring your evidence. There is no age barrier. Even a child is entitled to talk on Islamic matters if he has the evidence from Qur’aan and Sunnah (actions and sayings of the Prophet – peace be upon him). If you can show the evidence then nobody can rightly dismiss you for not being a scholar. The Qur’aan tells us that even the Queen of Sheba who was a kafir said something correct. Truth is linked to Allah. Allah is the ‘Truth’ because that is one of his names. You cannot undermine the truth.

Q (From an Evening Standard Reporter) Are you Extreme?

Reply:

What is the balance between extreme and non-extreme? I came from Islam. That is why I think that Islam is the middle of everything – the middle path. You might be the extremist! If you are sincere then you need to tell me what is extreme. (The questioner failed to define ‘extreme’ and did not answer Abu Hamza).

I never advocated violence against British people.

Q. (Again from the Evening Standard reporter) Are you mad?

Reply:

What do you mean by mad? I told you that what I say comes from Islam. You might be unbalanced from where I am. Let me ask you a question, were you created or did you create yourself?

(No reply

Were you created or did you create yourself? (No reply) When you answer that question then we can talk.

Q. Should the Ummah be revived?

Reply:

In Bosnia they forsook their religion and trusted the United Nations (UN). After three years of losing the war they realised that they had to return to Islam. When they did that, then they retook their own territory back from the Serbs and looked like winning the war. The Kuffar became seriously worried and pressured the Bosnians to stop fighting and sign the Dayton agreement. They will have to pay the price for trusting the Americans. The example for us in the UK is the Prophet (peace be upon him), who when being surrounded by disbelievers had to give the message without being confrontational.

Whenever we make a statement in support of the British public that is never reported! Do not believe the media. Help each other and that way at least achieve something. The priest of Saint Thomas’ church defended me. The media did not report that. Rumsfeld did say that he would bribe journalists to make life difficult for Muslims.

If there is an Islamic environment somewhere, then the Muslims can help each other. We need to talk to the non-Muslims. We need to set an example of good behaviour. Muslim traders ought not to overcharge customers. Islam grew in Indonesia because of the good behaviour of the Muslims who settled there from the Middle East.

People will not respect us if they see us hustling for money. Some people say, “If we judge Islam by the behaviour of today’s Muslims, then I would never accept Islam.”

Certain people with their own agenda have hijacked Islam. The non-Muslims are not interested in Islam. At Finsbury Park, we put tables outside the mosque with Dawah (Islamic propagation) material laid out and many people have accepted Islam.

The land is fertile for dawah. Sadly, Muslims are becoming more apologetic rather than active. Many sisters are more active than the brothers.”

Personal Comments:

The Question and answer session had been advertised in ‘Islamic events’ on the Internet and had been generally publicised within the Muslim community. We have heard so much about Sheikh Abu Hamza from the Kuffar media. It was an opportunity for anyone with a fair mind to question him directly and form his or her own opinions. I attended with the intention of asking some difficult questions about his character. I asked him the question about his credentials as a scholar.

I was pleased that Abu Hamza presented himself for questioning on February 19th. With the coming Crusade in Iraq, the British authorities began an uncompromising campaign against active Muslims. They decided he was one of the most active as the one who has consistently told the truth irrespective of whether or not the Kuffar found it politically correct! They employed every dirty trick known to them to silence him. The raid on the Finsbury Park Mosque was politically motivated and part and parcel of Poodle Blair’s Crusade. As the place had been under surveillance for the past four years with a police camera aimed at the front door. It is laughable that any self-respecting terrorist would be seen within a mile of that place! Despite the much-hyped arrests, nobody has been charged with terrorism offences, which was the ostensible excuse for the raid. Anyway, there is no need for me to rubbish the Government’s excuses for the raid on the Finsbury Park Mosque as eminent writers such as Faisal Bodi of the Guardian have already done it in detail.

The police raid on the Mosque was one prong of Poodle Blair’s attack upon the Ummah. The other one has been media attacks e.g. the ‘Hook’ headlines in the Sun. Can you imagine any other disabled person being attacked in this way? What is even worse is the gang of sell-out ‘Muslims’ lining up behind the Kuffar media in attacking our brother. Where is the British tradition of fair play? Unless of course you include kicking a man when he is down to be fair? In this case the man has no hands and only one eye. All he is doing is talking about Islam. A rich Arab ruler or organization is not sponsoring Abu Hamza. He is doing that as a service for the Ummah. This is a critical time. What is the alternative to people such as Abu Hamza?

The alternative is sell-outs such as the MCB (known in activist circles as the Munafiq Council of Britain), which was established by the British Labour party for the benefit of the Labour party. It boils my blood when these sell-outs act as the self-appointed ‘representatives’ of British Muslims, when nobody elected them to represent them! Here is a small example of their sell-out credentials: stating it was alright for Muslims in the British army to kill their brothers in Afghanistan if their conscience allowed it; the MCB attended a free dinner at the Crusader American embassy in London while the preparations for the attack on Iraq were under way last November; generally supporting the Bush-Blair crusader axis; justifying the police attack on the Finsbury Park Mosque etc.

Last night I heard the James Whale show on Talk Sport Radio featuring Sheikh Abu Hamza, Inayat Bunglawalla from the MCB, a Zionist Rabbi and a Christian priest. They debated various issues for about three hours starting at 10 p.m. During the programme, everybody including the Kafirs James Whale and the Rabbi referred to Abu Hamza as ‘Sheikh’. Except for Bunglawalla (or Bungle as the Muslim activists call him), who referred to Abu Hamza as ‘Mr.’, not even as ‘brother’! His contempt for the Muslim activist was coming across loud and clear. By comparison, Abu Hamza referred to Bungle as the ‘Brother from MCB’. Bungle had far more respect for the Kafirs than a Mujahid. The thrust of his statements was to apologise for Islam and be as politically correct as possible to the Kuffar.

You have Government Scholars in the Arab world who make a living from ‘selling’ dodgy ‘fatwas’ justifying their corrupt paymasters. We have similar such sell-outs here in the UK – e.g. Zaki Bedawi, the friend of the apostate Rushdi and certified as a ‘reformer of Islam’ by the anti-Islamic journalist Alibhai Brown of the Independent. There was Ghiasuddin Siddiqui, the self-styled leader of the defunct Muslim Parliament mouthing off against Abu Hamza in the Sun – a few flicks away from the photo of the topless girl!

This week a friend sent me an article by MPAC who have also joined the Kuffar chorus of ‘Abu Hamza’ the ‘Extremist’. This is a small example of the misinformation they were spouting off about him in a spineless personal attack on Tuesday 18 February 2003, perhaps to get on the good side of MI5 – I have quoted MPAC in italics and I have added my comments in red:

Tues - Feb 18 2003
MPAC Media ALERT


Does This Man Represent ‘YOU’??



Abu Hamza never claimed to represent anyone, and he certainly has nothing to do with the cowards demonstrating their political correct credentials to the Kuffar!
Every time he (Abu Hamza) opens his mouth he dents the Islamic public image and tarnishes our reputation with his mindless rhetoric. What image of Islam does MPAC want with the Kuffar establishment? Why did MPAC fail to give an example of the alleged ‘mindless rhetoric’ and let the Ummah decide whether or not Abu Hamza has tarnished our reputation? Do they think the Ummah is so stupid that only MPAC ought to do the analysis?
Every word he utters is a generation back for us. Which words are they? If he said, “Please may I have some potatoes” then that would be a “generation back” according to MPAC? Do not exaggerate - if you cannot string a proper argument together – it makes you look stupid!
Every public appearance he does fuels the fire by giving the Zionists an edge over us…Which public appearances have given the Zionists and edge over u? Where is your evidence?
Abu Hamza has said nothing to support our position in the west with his rhetoric (Give an example. The fact you said “this is evidence” proves you have not heard him speak. Why do you seek the support of the Kuffar West? Is not the support of Allah enough?). If anything, he has given the tabloids and the Zionist propaganda machine ammunition to use against us and brand us all in the same category as him (If I earned the hatred of the Kuffar Tabloids I would consider that a great achievement. Allah says in the Qur’aan that the Jews and Christians will never be happy unless we become one of them! I would love to be in the same category as a man who actually fought jihad for the sake of Allah!). It’s not that he's not a lovely fellow, that I am sure he’s not but he cannot make a logical argument stand on any interview and always utters mindless remarks that make us all look stupid and ignorant (Again, MPAC failed to give examples of alleged ‘mindless remarks’ and in any event their own mindless article is evidence of them actually being stupid and ignorant!).

MPAC did not give a single example to substantiate their personal attack. Neither did they back up their allegations with evidence from Qur’aan and Sunnah. I accuse them of creating Crusader propaganda because only the Kuffar establishment will benefit from them backbiting Muslim activists. Not only that, MPAC have consistently refused all invitations to meet with Abu Hamza and question him. MPAC knew about the Question and Answer session on February 19 but did not bother to show up. If you disrespect someone then do it to his face or shut the hell up, otherwise you will certify yourselves as cowards and liars!

We are at a critical time as an Ummah. We can either sink or swim as a unity. The whole crux of Islam is unity: One Allah and one Ummah. We get that drummed into us every time we attend congregational prayers and see images of Hajj. The least we can do in these times is to help and support our brothers in our towns and cities. There is a war against Islam, both within and beyond the UK. The ones in the direct line of fire are the most active in the Ummah. People such as Sheikh Faisal and Abu Hamza have been targeted because of their piety and love for the Ummah. Abu Hamza has a family to care for, and yet he goes out of his way to spread the Deen (faith). As an invalid, it would have been excusable for him to sit at home and do nothing because he already made his sacrifice. Instead he chose to remain active and struggle for Islam despite his disabilities. The amazing thing is that a crippled man is more courageous than any of the maggots bad-mouthing him in the media!

I am sick of able-bodied people with comfortable homes, nice jobs and with no real record of physical sacrifice constantly calling their activist brothers ‘Extremist’ just to pander to Kuffar opinion. I have named a few of them. The least we can do is to pull together as a community and offer even moral support to the activists who work day in and day out for Dawah.

Every new Muslim is a victory for the Ummah and a defeat for Kufr (disbelief). How can we expect help and mercy from Allah if we constantly attack activists? If we want help from Allah then we must earn it. We can make a start by sending messages of support to people such as Sheikh Abu Hamza who has organised Friday prayers on the pavement outside Finsbury Park mosque – what a great example of Dawah! This has been televised all over the world. Therefore, the real congregation is several hundred times greater than on the actual pavement!

We may feel regretful that we are powerless in the face of the imminent crusader attack on Iraq, but we all the have the means to support activists in spreading the deen. The least we can do is not disrespect pious brothers and sisters. I do not claim to be pious. I am as Westernised as you can get, but if I do not at least speak the truth then what hope is there!

If you wish to make your feelings know to MPAC their e-mail addresses are:

fahd.karwa@mpacuk.org
sophia.desai@mpacuk.org

ma_jinnahuk@yahoo.co.uk

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