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Subject:jailbird and rage against the machine
Date:Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:40:08 -0800
From: ninja@nccn.net (Tom Servo)

Now, I am certainly not very knowledeable about history, but I'm pretty
sure that the incident descrbided in Jailbird about Sacco and Venzetti was
made up. If not, please forgive me for being such a moron.

Regardless, in their new video "No Shelter", Rage Against the Machine
alludes to this incident. In several scenes they show either a guy in an
electric chair with a name tag of Sacco or Venzetti, or a line of electric
chairs with a sign that says Scottsboro. I think that's a pretty cool
allusion. The song is anti big business I believe. I hope this hasn't
already been covered.

--
"If God dropped acid, would he see people?"
-- Steven Wright


Subject: Re: jailbird and rage against the machine
Date:17 Aug 1998 20:38:28 GMT
From: fixedmycat@aol.com (FIXEDmyCAT)

>I'm pretty
>sure that the incident descrbided in Jailbird about Sacco and Venzetti was
>made up.

I am pretty sure that the material about Sacco and Venzetti was based on fact,
where as the material about the Coyahoga massacre was based on fiction or
folklore.

Somehow, I'd prefer to think they are both fiction, since they are both so damn
depressing.

Darrell


Subject: Re: jailbird and rage against the machine
Date: 18 Aug 1998 05:07:58 GMT
From: jessef1016@aol.com (JesseF1016)

Learned about it in history class before reading the book, so I'd have to say
it's true. (I won't try to sound arrogant and claim I knew about it before
then. I'll admit I'm ignorant as f**k.) However, I did see the video today,
and, indeed, it got me thinking about the book.



Subject: Re: jailbird and rage against the machine
Date: 18 Aug 1998 02:28:11 GMT
From: yrahyar@aol.com (YRahyar)


>>I am pretty sure that the material about Sacco and Venzetti was based on
>>fact,
>
>Yes it was. I saw a special about it on either the discovery channel, or the
>history channel, I don't remember which one.

History Channel, I think. I remember some of it. Anyway, I'm not sure if it was
in the introduction to Jailbird (or if there was an introduction to Jailbird)
or somewhere else, but I recall Vonnegut writing that he was surprised that the
Sacco-Vanzetti thing wasn't more well-known these days. The first time I read
about it was in Jailbird, and after that I was surprised about it too.