Information:
Pix:
Performance:
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- Mechanics
- Big
Loader
- Review
by Rocky
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Updated:
February 14, 2000
Welcome to the reconnaissance page. I will try to display the information
in a cohesive format that will allow easy printing. The following information
has been compiled by me during my gun review for APG and through email
and discussions conducted at the newsgroup rec.sport.paintball
First off I will have to state that the gun has been on the market for
about a year now. It was offered up to the public in the early part of
1996. Although the gun is well designed and Tagline has tried to make it
the best product that they can, there are a few areas of improvement/refinement
that needs to be done. The following info should be used as a resource
for players when they have questions regarding this gun and what its current
limitations are.
If you have anything to contribute to this forum please contact lum@earthlink.net.
I will try to place as much information, time permitting, to help fellow
players.
Cost
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The gun retails at $519.00 U.S. for just the body only (no clip), and it is manufactured and distributed
through ATS. A bit
steep for a paintgun, but worth it for what it can do. Check out their pricing
page.
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Where can I get this paintgun?
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Contact ATS directly or check your local paintball store to order one for
you. Check my Resource
Page for phone numbers. ATS should be able to get you a gun pretty
fast due to their highly efficient production assembly plant. Skanline
and I&I do have inventory of the guns if you prefer to order through
them. But one of the most knowledgeable dealers out there where you can
purchase a gun and get very good tech advice is through F.U.N.
Supply.
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Contact Numbers
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For general listing
of pertinent phone numbers and addresses to purchase the TS1 or Aftermarket
Products.
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Specifications
General listing of parts are located on the Parts
List
Weight: 2 lbs. 5 oz. without tank
Length: 21 5/8" from end of barrel to the standard back bottle
ASA, 33" with tank attached
ASA with integral filter assembly
Firing mechanism: closed bolt, nelson based
Internals: non ferrous stainless and brass
Regulator: internal
Designed Cycling Speeds: 12 rounds per second (rps) at full auto
utilizing co2 - factory set, 14-15 rps with N2/HPA
Designed Working Temperature Range: 30-80 degrees
Designed Working Pressures for N2/HPA: 700-900 psi input pressure
(adjust the gun's regulator for optimal performance)
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Barrel: 13 ½" without breech
sizer, 14 5/16" with breech sizer
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Material: Black anodized aluminum
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Muzzle break: 2"
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Spiral porting: 1 ¼"
Manufacturing: 4 step process where the barrel is first honed,
then burnished, anodized, and honed a second time .
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Breech Sizer Quantity: 4 sizes provided (Spares cost $10 each, through
ATS)
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Material: clear anodized aluminum (7/8" long)
Shroud: 8" in length
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Frame Length: 9 ¼" long
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MATERIAL: 65% Ceramic/Glass fiber reinforced nylon resin composite
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Material Manufacturer: Thermofil, Inc.
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Material Name: NSC Esbrid Ceramic Fiber / Glass Fiber Reinforced
Nylon (NSG-730A)
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Specific Gravity: 1.81
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Hardness: R 120/M97
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Tensile Strength: 24,000 psi
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Tensile Elongation: 3%
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Flexural Strength: 38,000 psi
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Flexural Modulus: 2,100,000 psi
Sight: Removable and adjustable to 4 distances (10, 15, 20,
and 25 meters)
Front Loader Capacity: 60 rounds (1 loader is supplied in the
package but if you want to purchase more, they can be bought for $16.99
US each, through Tagline/ATS)
Clip Magazine
Capacity: 25 rounds max., 20 rounds functional capacity (Extra clips
may be purchased through Tagline/ATS and are retailing for $39.99 US).
New clips are being designed and its public release will be June 1, 1997.
New clips will have stronger impact-resistant frames; a heat-treated surgical
stainless steel chain drive (blue in color from the heat treating); an
improved chain retaining guide to prevent the unit's chain from hopping
off the spokes and becoming out of time; improved guide rollers at the
top of the chain drive; and last but not least, a deflector wheel at the
base of the chain drive to prevent balls from bottle-necking and jamming
the chain drive mechanism.
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Bolt: diffuser
style. Current bolts are heat treated for durability due to contact with
the sear latch. The color of the current bolts are GREEN
from the heat treating.
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Velocity Adjustment: down the barrel with supplied adjustment
tool
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Rear assembly removal by unscrewing 4 machine screws
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Integrated Air Filter located at the ASA, and an internal
filter inside the gun to prevent debris from entering the regulator
assembly
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Custom designed black hard-shell carrying
case
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12 ounce chrome moly tank (Approximately 800 shots)
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Bottle of gun oil
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30 Minute Instructional Video
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90 day warranty on parts and labor - You can also send in your gun
for upgrades during the warranty period.
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Player Q & A
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The FAQ page is
now up and running!
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THINGS NOT TO DO
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Try not to use the back bottle connection and
connect that 12 oz bottle to it. If you do connect the bottle
to the gun directly, you will probably freeze up the gun. This gun hates
liquid. Another thing that connecting the bottle in this fashion will do,
is make it harder to sight down the gun. You will end up hitting that bottle
with your face mask every time.
SUGGESTION: Get a bottom line (use a Traccer type
of external hose bottom line. It should fit the TS-1) A second thing you
might try is run the gun with a remote setup. You could also change your
grip with a 45 grip and then attach anything you want on your 'gun.
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Do not gas up the gun with the clip magazine engaged
in the gun. If you do this, the gun will misindex the chain
drive in the clip and could cause a "crash" in the feeding system. Hint
- watch the video that comes with the gun first, before you gas up the
paintgun.
THINGS TO REMEMBER
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Remember to shake the gun. This will help to get the rounds in the front
loader to feed into the clip magazine. Tagline recommends a gentle rocking
motion to help the balls feed.
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Make sure that you do not overfill the front loaders. Overfilling will
make it very difficult to have the balls roll out of the loader and feed
into the clip.
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Use the correct breech sizer on your barrel. A sizer that is too small
will not allow balls through and could end up breaking paint. A sizer that
is too big will not hold onto the balls, and you will end up having them
roll out of your barrel. Remember to carefully screw on the breech sizers,
the threads are very thin and you could end up cross threading them. Spare
sizers cost $10 each through ATS.
INCREASING THE SPEED OF THE GUN
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You can polish the face of the sear
that latches onto the back lip of the bolt assembly. By doing so, there
will be less friction where these two pieces of metal come into contact.
But just remember that it is a hell of a lot easier to remove metal than
to replace it. So just polish the sear sparingly first. A dremel with a
polishing tip and a light touch should do the trick.
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If you take a trigger apart (by tapping
the horizontal stainless pin out) and study it for a while (see the cad
image first) you will understand this possible mod.
At the rear of the trigger piece is a vertical spring that pushes the trigger
forward. You could theoretically put some spacers directly under
the rear end of the trigger piece so that it will fire with very little
pull of the trigger. The spacers will actually be pulling the trigger backward
due to their position. Just a little spacer should shorten the trigger
pull. I haven't tried this mod yet because the trigger I have is
already light enough. If you do want to experiment you could glue a piece
of sheet plastic to the bottom of the trigger piece and then try it out.
If the spacer is too big then the trigger pull will be too light. Sand
it down with a fine grit sandpaper just a hair and try it again until your
trigger is the way you like it.
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For some reason or another, if you increase the pressure in the regulator
a bit, the velocity also increases as well. I can only hypothesize about
the reason why that would be and can only speculate that when you increase
the pressure in the gun's regulator, the gun is able to recharge faster
and thus allowing a higher cycling factor. I do not know how much you can
increase the cycling rate this way, since I do not own a shot counter.
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Cut the trigger guard and install a two finger
trigger. You can buy one of those bolt on triggers to fit. You
may also have to shave off a bit of the trigger material to fit the new
trigger though. The factory trigger is a bit wide and the trigger shoes
on the market would probably not fit on them anyway. From my experience,
the two finger trigger increases the cyclic rate due to an easier pull
from the torque while using a two finger trigger. The TS1 utilizes a pivot
type of trigger, so when you install a longer two finger trigger, you use
less force to pull the trigger (due to lever action) but more movement
(in the arc of travel) to fire the gun. I have one installed on my gun,
and it simply makes all the difference in firing in semi mode. Who cares
how easy it is to fire if you are going full auto.
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Upgrades & Modifications
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CHECK OUT MY HYPER MODIFIED GUN AT THE
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Customization Page
- You will get a sneak peak on what a heavily modified gun can
look like. Depending on what your specifications are, you can customize
it fit your needs.
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GUN UPGRADES:
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There have been players who have found out that their 'guns were the older
models that didn't have all the current upgrades. If you fall under this category, go to the Resources
Page and give Tagline or ATS a call. They can help you with all
of your upgrade questions and decide whether to send you player-installable
parts or give you procedures for sending your gun for upgrades. Upgrades
should be free if the gun is still under warranty (Current warranty times
are 90 days for ATS produced guns). Trust me, Tagline is more than accommodating
and they will help you in any way so that your gun performs to current
specifications.
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CURRENT PRODUCTS:
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Lock out devices
so you can only fire in semi mode (Very helpful for fields that ban full
automatics). Lock outs are standard on all new guns. To remove the lock
out device, just unscrew it with an allen wrench. Now you can flip up the
selector switch up and rock and roll in full auto!
Barrels - B.O.A. (Barrels of America), known for their internal
finishes of immaculate quality, currently manufactures barrels on a special
order basis. They just do not have enough demand to begin full production
of barrels for the TS-1. Although the barrels are custom made to your specifications,
the prices are quite reasonable. Here are the prices I got from BOA when
I called them (330) 878-6309 on 4/7/97.
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First of all you can get this barrel in what ever material you want, so
long as it is not stainless steel. They have brass, industrial hard-chrome,
and nickel plated versions. And you can also get them in ported or non
ported versions.
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$49 - Brass
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$79 - Hard Chrome or Nickel plated
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$70 - Concealer barrel (new design helps to quiet the gun down and suppresses
visual co2 vapor from exiting the barrel)
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$100 - Concealer barrel in nickel finish
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J&J Performance also manufacture barrels for the TS-1. They
can be contacted at (330) 567-2455. Like BOA, you will also have to special
order them straight from the factory. Available materials are brass, industrial
hard-chrome, and stainless steel too! You can also ask for it to be ported/non-ported,
muzzle breaked, and rifled.
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Prices as of 4/7/97 are:
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$79.95 for stainless steel
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$65.00 for hard chrome
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Palmer's Pursuit Shop now produces barrels to fit the gun as one
player remarked in rec.sport.paintball. They are also a good manufacturer
of air regulators that perform and reasonably priced as well.
New Grips - The TS-1 utilizes a Eurogrip that bolts onto an M16
style mounting lug which is connected to the receiver body of the 'gun.
Some players have remarked that the Eurogrip is too small for their hands.
Since the TS-1 has the M16 mounting lug, there are many aftermarket grips
that can fit the 'gun. Indian Creek makes a 45 grip. You could also purchase M16 Lonestar grips, although
I kind of hate the feel of them (they are made of hard plastic and don't feel that
comfortable). I tend to lean towards the Hogue
grips.
When you start changing grips, you can really customize your 'gun by attaching
a whole slew of aftermarket products such as N2/HPA cradles, gas through
stocks, bottom line adaptors, and what ever is out there. Just check your
local store and bring in your gun to see if their available grips feels
and looks the way you like.
FUTURE PRODUCTS:
Integrated Bottom
Line Setups (This is a must if you want to maintain the sleekness
of the gun without having to deal with an external hose connecting to the
bottom line. And bottom lines will allow you to sight down the gun.) If
you cannot wait to get the integrated bottom line, then I suggest that
you try the external bottom line that fits the Tracer pump gun. The Tracer
was also designed by Tagline and they both utilize the same Euro grips. So
far this piece of equipment never surfaced on the market. Rumors have it
that the tube restricted the required flow rate that the gun required.
Big Loaders
- Viewloader is working with Tagline to create a new mechanized version
of the Big Loader, it has been named the Magnum Loader. It will run off
of two 9-volt batteries. Current demo models have the loader feeding balls
into the clip at rates of 12 rounds per second. The motor for the Big Loader
has to be different than those found in the VL2000 models due to the requirements
that are necessary in feeding rounds into the TS1. The current extent of
Viewloader's involvement is the use of their electronic sensors for the
Magnum. ATS will be manufacturing and selling the Magnum Loader with anticipated
public release in early 1998.
Slings - Okay, so there are no manufacturers that are making
it for the 'gun, but I think it would look cool if you could fashion some
webbing together and have it easily carryable.
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