greyhound silversides page pd 3751 & PD 4151 greyhound silversides
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Which
type of bus, 40 years after the first one was built, still symbolizes
Greyhound to a large segment of The population? The answer, of course, is the
Greyhound "Silversides." Some people may not know that familiar
name, coined by drivers, or know that the vehicles were built by Yellow Coach
and GM. And some may forget that after Greyhound was through these buses of
its own exclusive design, it resold them to smaller carriers. What is
unforgettable about the Silversides is the unique design, with fluted aluminum
exterior trim panels and other features.
The nation's toymakers likewise were impressed with the Silversides;
most of them offered toy versions, some of which are featured in the
Collectibles toy page.
The first Greyhound Silversides was a Yellow Coach 1206 built in 1939;
this was the lone experimental coach, though it looked like the ones to
follow, and was apparently used for publicity purposes in connection with the
1939 World's Fair. The maximum legal length for buses at the time was still 33
feet in many areas, so the Silversides was produced in both 33 and 35- foot
versions. After World War II, only 35-footers were built.
the Silversides did not represent major technical advances; the diesel
engine installed in the majority of prewar Silversides coaches had been used
in some Yellow Coach 743's; Greyhound's previous design, and air conditioning
had been pioneered by ACF. The Silversides did have some interesting
innovations, such as a movable lower step which slid out when the entrance
door was opened, and the shift lever mounted on the steering column
(reflecting the trend in automobiles at the time). This single-rod air shift
on the column could cause problems; it was frequently impossible to shift into
reverse without summoning a mechanic. A two-rod mechanical shift replaced the
air shift on postwar Silversides models, which eliminated most of the
problems. Other postwar changes included redesigned driver's controls and
instrument panel, and the air conditioning power unit was moved back one bay.
Some Silversides were delivered without sliding sash.
At the end of World War II, with riding at an all-time high, Greyhound
evidently decided it was easier to make changes and improvements to the
existing Silversides design for the time being, rather than become deeply
involved again in a new coach design. There was a need to replace many buses
worn out with heavy use during the war, including "engine-out-front"
types, and several Greyhound companies even purchased ACF-Brill gas buses. The
last Silversides were delivered in 1948, and Greyhound would not have another
"trademark" bus until the first Scenicruisers in 1954.
Even after the arrival of the Scenicruisers, and a later
"Greyhound only" bus, the M.C.l. MC-6, some of the Silversides
continued to operate for Greyhound. The last ones, a group of PD4151's
assigned to Division 5 commute runs in San Francisco, were withdrawn from
active service in 1970, replaced by pd-4104's and scenics downgraded from main
line service.
by gary johnson model coach news no.19 ( unknown date )
YELLOW
COACH 1206
Number built: one
Year built 1939
Length: 33 feet
Engine: 6-cylinder gas
Seating capacity: 37
YELLOW
COACH PGG-3701
Number built: 91
Years built: 1940-41
Length ~ 33 feet
Engine: 6-cylinder gas
Seating capacity: 37
Serials: PGG-3701--001 to 091
YELLOW COACH PDG-3701
Number built: 240 Years built: 1940-41 Length: 33 feet Engine: 6-71 6-cylinder
diesel Seating capacity: 37 Serials: PDG-3701--001 to 248 (except 212, 213,
215,,237-9, 244, 245, cancelled).
YELLOW COACH PGG-4101
Years built: 1940-41
Number built: 35
Length: 35 feet
Seating capacity: 41
Engine: 6-cylinder gas
Serials: PGG-4101--001 to 035
YELLOW COACH PDG-4101
Years built: 1940-41
Number built: 224
Length: 35 feet
Seating capacity: 41
Engine: 6-71 6-cylinder diesel
Serials: PDG-4101--001 to 226
(cancelled: serials 193 and 206)
G.M. PD-3751
Years built: 1947-48
Number built: 1643
Length: 35 feet
Seating capacity: 37
Engine: 6-71 6-cylinder diesel
Serials: PD-3751--Wl to 1643
G.M. PD-4151
Year built: 1948
Number built: 357
Length: 35 feet
Seating capacity: 41
Engine: 6-71 6-cylinder diesel
Serials: PD-4151--001 to 357
(Researched by Thomas C. Vandegrift)
There were also prewar 35-foot Silversides, identifiable
by the prewar-style front bumper (and apparently the dog on the dash emblem
runs in the opposite direction). Robert A. Burrowes photographed Pacific
Greyhound Lines 758 on November 7, 1942, as it rounded the corner at 20th
and Castro in Oakland, California. it was PDG-4101-024.
Peerless Stages of Oakland, California bought 253 used in 1958 from Western Greyhound Lines, where it had been P815. Because of the non-original front bumper, it might be necessary to identify this 1941 Yellow Coach PDG-4101 (serial 170) by its lack of an air vent flap over the left headlight. (Barney Neuburger, from Bruce Korusek)
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I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ALL OWNERS OF SILVERSIDES BUSES OR ANY ONE WHO KNOWS OF THE WHERE ABOUTS OF A SILVERSIDES, TO PLEASE SEND A PICTURE AND THE SERIAL NUMBER OF THE PRODUCTION OF THE BUS. EVEN IF IT A PARTS BUS OR IN A WRECKING YARD SOMEWHERE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY ALL ARE. I KNOW MANY WENT TO MEXICO, AND SOMEONE HAS BEEN SENDING SOME TO GERMANY AS TOUR BUSES. I WILL START A PAGE WITH ALL THE PRODUCTION NUMBERS WHEN INFORMATION STARTS COMING IN.
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