This whole episode has been amusing. At first I was annoyed i had to go to the trouble of pointing out the stupidity of this move but then it just got funny. This page is a posting of the email invasion of COS by Darrious Kril. It is posted and sent to you in the hopes that you will help put an end to this sort of roleplay in AOL Gor One positive thing about this development, technically, if one of civvos is trying to destroy or damage your SL or SN , you can simply ignore their actions, as they do not exist in positive and realistic roleplay.
The question I ask you here is, If Ar in AOL Gor had 5 muns, and Fort Kaskins had 20. Would Fort Kaskins be more powerful? Powerful enough to take over Ar? That is what Darrious mun wants to turn Gor into.

Darrious rejects my first letter——the final warning——Darrious accuses us of harrassing him—— Letter to The Sa——Posts to the gorean message board
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: OOC invasion of Cos and its response
Date: 6/4/00 12:15:54 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Ubar Lurius
To: Ubar Lurius

This letter is long, and many of you are busy so I will summarize. Darrious Kril writes an email to some of his friends stating he has killed this Sn (ubarlurius) and taken over Cos. As far as I know we have not switched over to the "kill Sn's by email" style of RP. As Ubar of Cos I basicly reject his SL. He claims he wants to build a book Cos, well let me tell yah , a single house in Kar taking over Cos is about as UNBOOK as it gets. There is only one SL I will accept here and only one that is truly book. Darrious and all his men change all there Sn's to reflect that they were born in Cos (no torvaldslanders or ex karians allowed goreans are xenophobes) . they accept the rules I have laid down for RP in Cos, They accept that Lurius of Jad is the Ubar of Cos and RP as loyal to him and the stone to the death. All Rp and SL's will be under the constructive control of this SN Lurius of JAD. I have been building some big Sl's with many of you so this is my petition to reject Darrious's email invasion and for the real Cos to remain. I believe we need to set a precedent over these matters now. many of you are administrators or Ubars of small groups and can see how this sort of RP would affect your city which you work so hard to maintain. Respond to this SN and I will compile the responses to be posted on a board and so fourth?

**The contents of this letter may seem harsh, in advance I wish to say that I am trying to be funny and light hearted over the matter, though to be sure, it vexs me that darrious thinks he can kill my SN, and all my SL's with an email. You are all the Ubars and administrators and regents of Gor . I will let you decide.



The Letter

I have been playing in Cos for three weeks as Ubar Lurius of Jad. Many of you know my first admiral and leader of my military forces alexandertheii . Alexander is the visible arm of my diplomatic staff, so it is he you normally encounter. A friend of mine was good enough to forward this letter, which it seems had slipped by me as Darrious did not bother to look and see that I was playing there. Mistakes happen I am sure. during there "lengthy " preperation for the invasion of Cos I am sure they simply forgot to check if a real Lurius of Jad existed before they "killed" him in his bed.

The email Darrious wrote

Subj: Re: To CoC and Leaders of Thentis, Kassua, Tyros
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 8:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Darrious Kril
To: Darrious Kril, DoranMalen, Bladen Saber, Simone Arsan, Melan Zant, RandornVlask, Red Beard Steel, JATAREN, Logan Rhy, MaxiMillian Mace, Sadistic Bastrd, RySkipSanX, Jet Kasir, Tiberius Calhorn, Bint Gnashyr, Garrison Steel
CC: Raigen Strym, AlecCraftSeer, Raven Strym, Brett Saber, SarusofTyros, Jared Rezu

:::Darrious Ships headed out of Port Kar he was a Pirate and a Killer a man
driven by many things but he was tired of other things his great fleet and
hoards of pirates and Captains moved against Cos in the dead of Night the
ships landed 100s of pirates nae thousands upon Thousands of them many of Cos
itself promised wealth and power gold moved from the ships Darrious had
planned this Coup long his house the largest and most powerful house seen who
had profitted beyond believe as put away its wealth preparing for this one
strategic strike it Key personal where the first to die in their Fortresses
and palaces. Cos was to strong to try to fight out even for a man as poweful
as Darrious Captains where taken and slaughtered in their beds it was well
known Darrious was not a man of honor not in the ways known of those of the
Red Caste. Other Captains had been bought in gold the Cosian Arsenal was
taken in less than a hour more men joined Darrious led by their Captains who
had known of this attack ahead of time and joined with Darrious in this
scheme of war. Slowy the whole island was taken Key men all over Cos bought
did as they where supposed to. The Ubar of Cos - Lurius of Jad was killed
in his bed the fat old idiot died with a scream of fright as Travor drove
his blade through the mans gut electing to let him die a slow death as he
watched with a grin his blade pinning the man to the bed. Travor then had
the royal family taken and enslaved as elsewhere Darrious other plans slid
into affect. The Islands of Cos where 400 pasangs west of Port Kar and a
hundred pasangs north of Tyros Darrious plans had to be implemented quickly
time was running out even with the death of the Ubar many other things must
be done Travor had taken the Capital City of Cos Telnus and killed the Ubar
but the other cities still had to be taken he had bought key people in the
Major cities of Selnar, Temos and Jad, but he was not done he needed these
cities secured the coup must be done to absolute pefection or Darrious though
poweful as he was would have his head upon a platter served well done.
BladenSaber one his finest captains implemented the next part of the plan
working with Malek Avery and they hit both Selnar, and Jad. Something went
wrong though some of the Cosian forces gathered in force and met the attack
but Bladen and Malek bleeding huge giants of men rallied the forces bleeding
from many cuts they sliced a huge swath towards the Cosians towards the key
men who where trying to rally the Cosians to reach the main men. The battle
no more than a few hundred though not as large as some in history was
desparate for if these men where not contained the whole plan might fail and
a large arm put together to march against Telnus which had already been
taken. However Bladen and Malek brothers in blood would not be stopped they
cut their way with their men to the Cosians loaylist and then upon that day
the cut them down bleeding from many wounds the two Pirate Captains and the
Cosian allies with them grinned the bloody grins they knew that the plan was
almost done. In Temos another plan was slowly unfolding a lone Dark figure
slipped throught night and entered the palace of the city leader, he was
called the DarkOne the mand died without ever knowing he was in danger and
the DarkOne was out without even a sound or sign. That was how the Cosian
Loyalist Captains found him when they came running to his room to sound the
alarm a dead man in his bed no sign of blood nothing just dead eyes looking
upwards. They had came because the city was falling, Travors man Tiberius
Calhorn, and Darrious men Bruder Stark, Dahmondark Wolf, Led many men in a
huge assault upon the city key personal and buildings where taken before they
even knew what hit them. The city fell just as quickly. The outlying
Cosian patrols returning saw the smoke rising and made for their island and
home imagine their surprise when they where met by the combined force of
Darrious Kril and a huge force of Torvaldslanders in serphents it had often
been speculated about Darrious Krils connections with those of the North and
how he was so close to his brothers there and their plans. Even men of Port
Kar wondered why Darrious was so close and why men of the North came at his
call and he theirs. It would be no secret anymore Serphents to dot the sea
black moved in about the patrols and Darrious and his Brother Jared upon the
Flag Ship Krils DeathWish Looked to each other and grinned. Meanwhile
Jaqarden Renzar and his fleet of ships moved to the diferent ports of the
island securing small ports and villiages and putting down Cosian loyalist.
the plan went well and all but small rebellious groups where under control
Cos was taken, now came the hardest part of all bringing together everyone
and putting a goverment and command together for the most poweful nation on
Gor, a Nation that had troops all over, a Nation that had conquered the
mighty Ar itself and controled so much. Darrious knew that those armies out
there on the main land was still a threat but he was working with leaders
already word was being sent gold and positions of power offered hopefully all
would go well but one never knew perhaps he would be found dead in his bed
next Bah! but who cares he was a Pirate and a killer he would die the same as
he was born. His thoughts turned to other things and he and Jared went to
his Cabin to talk.

OOC I have fought as long as I can I am tired of being accussed of thingsyou have a good start in Port Kar, but I just cannot deal with some of the
issues people worry I am trying to take their power or this or that. I do
not like Chaos Port Kar is getting better but it has a way to go I hope you
all continue what was started and work to make it a good city myself I have
to take my leave I am going to make Cos a large city like I did with Thentis
and hopefully open up more fun role play on the Thassa, Dar and his people
have pulled out of the War directly I wont be at the CoC meeting tonight
obviously my role play is done in Port Kar I will be busy building a book
city of Cos, however I do wish you all the best of luck, Brett, Alec my
brothers you will have to contact the CoC to continue the War GLs I think
they want to take care of that themselves Saurus I am sure we will talk more
as we are going to be sitting close to each other. I wish you all well
Dar Mun>>



Not a bad scene really aside from the obvious impossibility of it. no one house let alone all of Port Kar could take the island of Cos who are supported by Tyros according to the books but of course that doesnt seem to matter to darrious who is "book" after all. And as far as I know we still do not simply say we kill off SLs and Sn's with an email, do we? This is irritating. Apparently Ubar Lurius, My SN , is dead? Thats news to me! The city is failing? Again news to me. Allies in the north? Torvaldslanders in serpents this far south? uh... not very likely. Also, I have been playing as Cos for three weeks. and this guy wants to build a book city there? if he had come there three weeks ago he would have found a book city already there. The first sword of Cos contacted him immediatly informing him the Ubar and He were quite happy to which he recieved the reply.
"we have many men"
At that point we recieved this mail.


Subj: missive OOC
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 10:38:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Darrious Kril
To: Alexander the II

We bought alot of people to do this high officials and such really only rule
I want for Cos is for it to be book. If you want a high position, and dont
mind playing book we will sit you and your friends up in the SL, and do so
happily and include you in building Cos into a huge power.

If you dont want to that is fine and I understand but I am offering.
Brian C.
mun of
Jeric Strym
Darrious Kril

well that is all very interesting that as Ubar I might be allowed a high position in the city that I have rebuilt, that I waited to see was empty for many weeks before moving into, (mastershd and his ubara who last claimed Cos was a member of the slavers caste a subcaste of the merchants and thus can not hold high council in Cos. In any case, I waited for weeks to see if they still played there and saw they did not. Only the high castes can be Ubars or administrators another non book element that this email of darrious's seems to include. I told the former ubara of Cos, who contacted me in IM under another Sn, that i would be happy to allow them to live in the trade islands of Cos as independants )

I replied: (rather amusingly i thought)

Subj: Re: Fwd: missive OOC
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 10:55:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Ubar Lurius
To: Darrious Kril

I already have a high position here and plans for much more. I have been
playing here for several weeks and have been establishing a number of solid
Sls I wil do what I can to fight you off as obviously, realistically, no house
from port Kar could ever take over the Islands of Cos against Tyros and Cos. I
have some allies and we will play your dice rolling games as long as we can.
I play without the dice without the OOC and was quite happy here. Goood luck
As i am sure i will see you in the middle of some dice rolling barrage soon
enough

All right, so I was a bit bitter and acidic in my response. Perhaps I should have been more diplomatic but a certain level of absurdity had emerged with the lateness of the hour. darrious responded:

Subj: Re: missive OOC
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:29:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Darrious Kril
To: Ubar Lurius

Aye, as I did not know there was a Lurius SN, and nobody has been playing in
Cos except for a few muns, we will say you are the Son of the Late Ubar and a
ruler of Cos leading the loyalist that remain against the new ruling faction.
we will not play NPCs against you. We will bring real SNs.

Oh well that is reassuring. ( and whats with the aye? can someone find me one place in the books where it says aye? now i know long john silver said aye but..) Now the Sn i have been playing as the Ubar, one which is not only MADE to be the Ubar but has the word Ubar in front of it, is to be the son of himself! and thank you very much for acknowledging " the few muns" so obviously insignifigant. Above in the letter darrious simply dictates how I will play. And he wonders why he had to leave Port Kar? I must admit my reply is rather redundant.

It will simply be a dice rolling game. I play Npcs, I have only a few men as i just started here, that does not mean Cos is empty, I have allies but you will wait till it is simply my men in a tavern, kill them with a dosen Sn's who love only their dice and then that will be that, you will claim victory . The entire army and navy of Cos which i have been playing will not exist to you as it is NPC and you will ignore my cries that it is you who are mun consenting by not accepting the terms of my island. If i do get allies, the dice rolling will go on. all of the SNs in one room, all fire at me and then you claim i am dead , if i somehow manage to run out of the room in time then the next day it happens again, unless there is an OOC outburst first and someone calls someone an OOC name and then it will be thrown out and so on. This character IS Lurius of jAD , he rules Cos and that is that . We have long ago notified the Sa of our island and we are building it. The realism of the matter does not seem to matter to you. Yesterday your profile said Kar today it says Cos. The siege of a cities walls is nearly impossible . it is clearly described in Renegades of Gor. You have no supplies as you are no longer supported by Kar. You would have to blockade several walled island cities, One of which is protected at the harbor by twin towers which can fire flaming pitch for a pasang. none of that matters . You show up. You and your sns roll dice, you stay. That is the kind of roleplay you are offering , Or am I wrong? You are the head of the RWONC as Svein war axe you promise players dice and they get them and that is what they play for and they follow you to dice games. Is it surprising to any one that house wicked embrace is made up of so many torvaldslanders? is it surprising that torvaldlanders get extra dice points? i am sure it is just a coincidence. that is why i am here In Cos to get away from that, and here you are, threatening as usual " I have many men." I have the army and navy of Cos and the defenses of her cities, that is realistic roleplay.
You offer me a place in your SL. What do i tell the other people who have come here to play with me ? that they can suddenly stop the Sl we have been playing and do a new one? Why did you come to this island? because of some OOC slander according to your letter? is it any wonder that it happens when you take over other peoples role play with what is basicly a dice rolling game?


So that's the story. I have not decided whether I will play in Cos still and simply ignore them or what, but I thought that since this mail went to a few people who are not Karian that it might as well be known that whatever happened in Kar is continuing here. I have been going on about this lately but i will say it again. We all need to take some time to think about the other people who we play with and stop acting like it is all about "me" We are all here to play and there are plenty of places to do it. We need to be more mindful of acting as though other people do not matter.
Obviously I am not dead as Darious did not kill me. So how is it that what he wrote is a plausible SL? Until he ACTUALLY kills Ubar Lurius and has defeated the defences of the city then NOTHING has happened IC. Thus, the attack on Cos is entirely OOC. strange isnt it? I offer this. If Darrius Mun and his men want to come play here they can make new Sn's ones born in Cos. They can stand the scrutiny of being book players. (We do not accept eye patch style pirates or Torvaldslanders in Cos or strangers period. that is the nature of a real gorean book city .) And lastly they can accept that I am Ubar. my word here is law.

Oh wait. .. perhaps i have a better idea... after all darrious has set a precedent for the invasion of cities hasnt he.

::In the middle of the night 100s nae thousands upon thousands of Cosians disgusted with the smell of karians in their walls rise up from their beds and roam the streets. The drunken karians are taken by surprise and killed willy nilly about the place. The thin and beautiful darrious kril is killed in his sleep his FC and slaves impaled their entrails strung out . once again Cos is Cos and all is well! Long live Cos!::

is this how we play now? gee that was easy!

I believe what you meant to type was that you sailed to PORT COS, and took over that city. a city that i believe is uninhabited?

Final replies by darrius while this letter was being written

Subj: hello
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 8:44:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Darrious Kril
To: Alexander the II

You do not like dice would you like to take a position of Advisor, and
strategy adivsor. I saw a log of you informing the Ubar of Tyros of battle
plans against Port Kar. It was well done and thought out, I like stuff like
that and people that role play such. Yes we use dice for battles and
fighting and sparring, however if you come aboard I do not expect for you to
function in that compacity. Decision is yours you might not like everything
but the fact is we have some very good role players, alot of us our Pirates
but then again
Policrates: Vagabonds of Gor pg 19

general of Cosian forces in the north
once a pirate
rescued from the galleys by Myron, Polemarkos of Temos, a cousin to Lurius
of Jad, Ubar of Cos

As you can see other men of power where at one times pirates. I
understand if you are not interested in such things I am a war like person
but I also respect those that are not and I do like the other side of the
role play as well. Merchant routes, Ta Wine, sailing, philosphy.
Anyway your choice have fun in role play no matter what the outcome.

Indeed
( wasnt Policrates a pirate on the Vosk? The one who gets defeated by the townspeople of Victoria, a small village on the Vosk, who, carrying sharp sticks and pitch forks turn away the pirates? No that can't be . Taking a city is easy after all. ::has to laugh as he gets all bitter again.. sorry people last worded myself!)

Forwarded Message:
Subj: As You Requested Ubar
Date: 6/4/00 10:30:09 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Zamalan
To: Ubar Lurius



Subj: ::Just Chuckles::
Date: 6/4/00 3:32:07 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Darrious Kril
BCC: Ubar Lurius

First I do not condone the crazines of playing characters from the books second you have two SNs in Cos, and if I am not mistaken you play both of them. also they do not come up on a member search of Cos. Now Raven Stryms situation is nothing like this persons I Kassua is an established city not a one man world. Your insults and mun crossing are not really wanted Who you think or know I play is on another character does not reflect nothing here. However you have really irritated me now with your letter. Fact is you say you where here 3 weeks well and booted out to other people who has just as many role players as you did actually more because they probably did not have the same mun as I am sure you and your other SN Alexander is. So you have 1 Person on a island with two SNs, in addition he says he has been there for 3 weeks and has not picked up another person. 3 weeks hhhmm does not look to me like anything is getting built, looks like someone that is hurting role play because he does not get anything done. I would never have tried to take an established city from someone on Gor that played in the same forum I do. Also this person does not play in the same gaming forum I do, for we do use dice, our we ROLL PLAYERS No we are not that we are role players however we do use dice, obviously he does not. Seems we do not exist in the same world or forum, though I must admitt your really hurting your island iin the forum you play in and nothing is getting done I would have built a nice city in 3 weeks a very good size city one that would help role play all over Gor, One that would be benificial to my allies. One that would even be benificial to my enemies because I would bring excitement to them as well as allies. No you really better think of a different trade. Being a Ubar is more than just making up a name, one person can vote themselves in as a leader or Ubar all day long, but does that make them that? there is a qoute every man is a Ubar in his house or dwelling peasants and such. Yes you are a Ubar but only of your own lil hut. I am sorry you are upset I am sorry you cannot build a city, or wait perhaps I was sorry until your lil mun flinging trip, I am not really sorry you are now. Have fun We are here and dont worry we will be in a different Cos than yours one that does play with dice and follows main stream rules of Gor. So we will simply ignore each other I suppose enjoy being Ubar of your city of 1 Person. I wish you well

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OK. Right off I have to say, and I'm sorry this is going to sound rude, but you do not condone? A list of possible SNs I might play, that aren't "crazy, " would be helpful. As for building a city, I think I would find it a bit easier, if people didn't kill my SNs in E-mail ! ::laughs:: Second i think you either mean the quote each man is an Ubar in the circle of his own steel or a sort of summarization of the idea that even a peasant is Ubar within his own hut. Now, on to the meat of the matter, and hopefully this will be the end of it . Actually, I do play in the same format as you . I simply have rules, making sure that the game is more IC writing than IC rolling. And even if I was in a different format it would not change the fact that you simply moved to a city already inhabited, violating perhaps the last roleplaying ethic that AOL Gor has, in a scene that is not only impossible in terms of logistical reality but goes against everything we know oabout Gor! I play with people from many forums...ANGor, Sargor, GHC Gor. If you refer to the Gorean wargame, it is something I am quite proud of, and a way to keep track of IC battles. It's just starting, and looks to be a lot of fun for anyone and everyone. I have never seen one player insist that another player simply leave the city he is in, because the other player has more SNs to throw at him. In a way, that is a new forum all to itself...a forum of numbers. People from Bazi to Ar Station have role played with Alexander, as my representative, many times. Do I accept when a bunch of SNs show up rolling dice? No . Here is the IM people receive when they come to Cos.

Welcome to Cos. Mun consent is given upon entry. Cosian cities are under martial law; they are walled and policed. Challenges are allowed, unless they constitute a breach of Law. Under those circumstances, combatants will be arrested ( arrest is npc). NO DICE ROLLING is to be conducted in the rooms. Combat will be decided by judges, on writing style alone.
Challenges and combat that are SN lethal are very serious matters and will be conducted as such. If players insist on dice then, they will have them, but not in the rooms.

These rules are also outlined on the web pages, and go on to say...

Women in Cos will respect that men are stronger. For example, if a man says he grabs a woman, he grabs a woman. Period. However, he may also come before the courts. Collaring a free woman of Cos, by Cosians, will ONLY be done before the courts. E-mail accusations of slavish behavior and so on will be accepted by the courts. LOGS ARE NOT VALID RP. Witnesses are required. OOC LOGS ARE NOT PERMITTED. OOC is highly discouraged. PERIOD.

These are city guidlines and I have a right to make them . I do not impose them on anyone who is outside Cos. Certainly, dice rolling will be permitted if it is necessary, but it isn't a way that we should TRY to play . Everyone I speak to wants to CUT DOWN on dice rolling, not make it the central feature of role play. Read the profile of Ubar Lurius . I have changed it today, to reflect the city rules. It has always been simply a notification of the city. In fact, a simple search under Lurius, would have found him. The idea is to make the cities conform to the books. This is something you want too. And Gorean cities do not tolerate slave stealing, free women kidnapping, etc. The rules of the city are designed to make sure that does not happen. As for the city being two SNs there are actually several ...two slaves, my scribe, and another warrior. In addition, we are in close contact with Tyros, so they are involved as well. Just because I just started three weeks ago, doesn't mean you simply should ignore that I was there. If I was doing something non-book, I could understand. Here is my contact IM to Darrious.


Begin IM - 6/4/00 01:35 PM
Ubar Lurius:
we will simply let all the admins and administrators of Gor decide. the Ubar of Cos is me and that is that. who i play SN wise does not matter much as it shouldnt matter that you are several SNs . Jorts ferry has an SN that simply is called Jorts ferry? is that crossing>? If i play just the Ubar then I am the Ubar? that doesnt make too much sense to me. lets keep this friendly ok?
Ubar Lurius: so far it is unanimous
Ubar Lurius: as for kicking anyone out I actually had there approval that is different too. you really should just find a better place to play people will respect that . this way it looks bad for you
Ubar Lurius: theres no shame in simply apologizing and making good on it
Ubar Lurius: read page 24 of renegades that will allow you a way to work out of the Sl in IC roleplay
Ubar Lurius: I would be happy to offer you a place in the navy of Cos if you like
Ubar Lurius: of course then you would have to make a new Sn and everything that's no good
Ubar Lurius: do you really want to do this? people are going to think you have gone off the deep end
Ubar Lurius: this letter looks really bad. I only say this because I really think you should look at how you are being perceived
Darrious Kril: I really do not wish harrassment we are obviously not in the same world or realm please stop or I will be forced to toss
Darrious Kril: we both have our own choices
Darrious Kril: I do not with continued talks
Darrious Kril: be well
Ubar Lurius: I am only telling you because everyone agrees with me.
Darrious Kril: I am happy for you now leave me alone
Ubar Lurius: just trying to have us all work together
Darrious Kril: not really your idea is not even close we are not even in the same role playing forum
Ubar Lurius: I know but unfortunately you have the wrong idea about that
Darrious Kril: I do not play with characters from teh book I am sorry
Ubar Lurius: I play all forums angor ghc sargor its all the same
Darrious Kril: this conversation is over be well
Ubar Lurius: IM sorry you do not play with characters from the book
Ubar Lurius: ::sighs:

I am trying very hard to keep this friendly . We have too many people who want to turn everything into a personal OOC vendetta. If I have offended Darrious mun, then I sincerely apologise, but I feel it is only realistic to play Cos under its current system. We all want to be able to get along and play together, don't we? The big question is whether or not we want to let One player walk over other players, and simply bully them. Unfortunately, the dice system really tends to facilitate that sort of thing. This is not the first time a city has been played, at the same time, by two people. In my experience, however, it is never a good thing. Normall, it happens in PK. But I simply want to ask you all, and I do not mean any disrespect to Darrious mun, but is the way he is playing, the way you want to have AOL Gor go? He wants it to be BOOK and that is the most important thing. All we have to do then, is decide which is more book. Ubar Lurius of Jad? Or Ubar Darrious of Port Kar, now Cos? I could turn all my slaves into men, and go to Rhydin, fish up 40 SNs in a week, if I wanted to. Is that what we want? I don't, and I don't think anyone else does either. It's happened before, and it was horrible for AOL Gor. If we want there to be Two Gors, then I suppose that is fine. It's just not :: steps lightly here because this is the worst insult you can throw in AOL Gor, and he doesn't wish to sound rude:: not good roleplay. As of this writing, Darrious has decided to play as if he took over Cos . I am forced to ask that he and House Wicked Embrace be ignored, with Ubar Lurius being stated as the rightful ruler of Cos. I know that is a pain, but a precedent has to be set. Thank you again for taking the time to read and respond.
.

Log Entry: Special Interests - Gorean Tavern Cos [Members - 9] 6/5/00 10:12 AM Syndrea Saber: ~chuckles watching Travor~
BlacktarnRaider:=someplaces more then once=
BlacktarnRaider: nope she is clean
Syndrea Saber: ~*see to everyon else sweet girl*~
Talena Kamra: I think the name shaia (s/n C shaia C)
Talena Kamra: you may go change shaia
Log Entry: Special Interests - Gorean Tavern Cos [Members - 9] 6/5/00 10:15 AM
Ubar Lurius: I would just like to implore you all again to
Ubar Lurius: convince Darrious that this is not a good Sl to
Ubar Lurius: go with. I have received so many responses to
Ubar Lurius: the letters and not one of them agrees that this
Ubar Lurius: SL is plausible or Gorean or even good
Ubar Lurius: Roleplay. I do not wish to ruin the reputation of
Syndrea Saber: I like it Talena... has a lovely sound to it
Ubar Lurius: any role player and I am nearly begging that
Ubar Lurius: you do not force me to send out the second
Ubar Lurius: letter with all the responses to this Sl and this
Ubar Lurius: RP . Again I am very sorry that you all have to
BlacktarnRaider:=looks at the FAT man in the door=
Ubar Lurius: be involved in this but it really looks bad
Sabers Shadow: ::she nods and signs, "I already have Mistress, but I will again if you wish"::
Talena Kamra: (take it out of rom please)
BlacktarnRaider: laughs at the FOOL
Syndrea Saber: ((taking over an abandoned island is bad RP?))
Darrious Kril: <go somewhere else we are not playing with you nor you with us so do your own thing>
Ubar Lurius: I will give the rest of the day and if I do not
Ubar Lurius: have some indication that the SL is being
Ubar Lurius: dropped i will have to send out the letter and all
Ubar Lurius: the responses from Gor stating just how silly
Ubar Lurius: and ungorean this is. I really am sorry to have
Ubar Lurius: to do this to you all
BlacktarnRaider: <go bugger a lil boy>
Syndrea Saber: ~shakes her head not understanding ~
Ubar Lurius: I am sure you are all excellent roleplayers but
Talena Kamra: LOL
Ubar Lurius: this is simply a giant mistake on your parts
Darrious Kril: <<send out what you want but go away with your OOC, just
Darrious Kril: because you have 2 SNs one mun and want to have all of Cos
Darrious Kril: does not mean you get it good bye>>
Syndrea Saber: ((anyone mind if I ask what the f*ck this is about?))
UCLAboy7: ?
UCLAboy7: click here
UCLAboy7: ?
BlacktarnRaider: < he is a little boy thinking he is a man>
Ubar Lurius: Thank you for all your time and focus and I am
Ubar Lurius: sure that you will understand I wish you no
Ubar Lurius: harm to your roleplaying. But Good RP is good
Ubar Lurius: RP and we all need to work together to make it
Ubar Lurius: happen thank you for listening
Darrious Kril: <<someone decided to role play a book character and make
Darrious Kril: themself a self proclaimed Ubar>>
Shailyn Talet: ::watches the bubbles float around, poking at one::
Syndrea Saber: ((hmmm))
Log Entry: Special Interests - Gorean Tavern Cos [Members - 9] 6/5/00 10:19 AM

The letter were originally sent to all the Ubars and Administrators and Regents of all the represented Gorean cities. This was the logical first mailing as I had already made contact with many of them IC and was establishing relationships with them. As well they could understand the need for some sort of order in what is essentially the chaos of AOL gor. -----------------
Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: OOC invasion of Cos and its response
Date: 6/4/00 2:10:37 PM Central Daylight Time
From: ZudG
To: Ubar Lurius

In a message dated 6/4/00 10:15:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Ubar Lurius writes:

<<
I have been building some big Sl's with many of you so this is my petition to reject Darrious's email invasion and for the real Cos to remain. >>

I agree with you and all your words you write in your email of 6/4/00 Lurius of Jad, Ubar of Cos.
Zud Ubar Argentum
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: OOC invasion of Cos and its response
Date: 6/4/00 2:12:58 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Savaric Tarn
To: Ubar Lurius

Just my opinion ... the SL <The email Darrious wrote>didn't even sound least bit believable and wasn't put together right the story seemed to jump from one thing to another did I say story lol it looked like he just let his fingers type that e-mail without any thought just rambling.
I would even waist your time worrying about it well not worry I guess concern better word.

Adminstartor of Esalnius Savaric Tarn

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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: OOC invasion of Cos and its response
Date: 6/4/00 6:38:10 PM Central Daylight Time
From: MstrShokar
To: Ubar Lurius

Many think that they can make up SL that all will accept. Real RP understand this and follow the established rules.

If you do not accept the actions...ignore them. Unless you are in a room and it is logged for proof...I will not accept his actions against you or your city.

Shokar

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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: OOC invasion of Cos and its response
Date: 6/4/00 6:44:07 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Gaven Mace
To: Ubar Lurius

:::chuckles a LOT as he reads the scroll::

Where did this kid come from just out of high school ??

Now that school is out seems we will have to deal with a bunch of them 20 year old brats that have nay a clue what r/p is about..... They just want to think that they can come to Gor and r/p like the books.

Well I have all 27 books and have read them well as well as a real slave at my feet for I am a True Master and what nay of I know she will get the book and show it to I whenever I wish.

I say that this s/l is sleen chyt and nay even pay attention to it for if we go to e-mails to do such a thing Priestkings in a matter of a few days I will be the Ubar Sans of Gor.::chuckles::

Gaven Mace
Master of House Mace
Ubar of the City of Rovere

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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: The OOC battle for Cos. Edit me
Date: 6/4/00 9:30:08 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Aisling NeVay
To: Ubar Lurius, Darrious Kril

I was sent this, so I feel it my right to respond OOC.

I would never have tried to take an established city from someone on Gor that played in the same forum I do. Also this person does not play in the same gaming forum I do, for we do use dice,

This was part of Kril's letter to which I respond, boskchit. I have seen him use this very same excuse when he took Thentis ~ not as Kril, mind you, but as Jerric Strym. How convenient to be able to use your forum to take a city from others, one that had been RP'd and people were living there.. and yes, I know all about you talking to those people and absorbing them into your little group. This still does not make it right.

How many times are you going to start something just to up and drop it when you tire or things stop going your way? Ar Station, Thentis, wherever the heck it was in the North, Port Kar and now you want to do Cos as well? You are a contradiction to yourself... consistently inconsistent.... you cannot finish what you start. Granted, you are a good RPer when you do RP, but you are also book only if and when it suits you. You know, everyone rises to his/her own level of incompetency, you have more than once demonstarted and proved this fact. I think it time you took a rest.
I, for one, will not recognize a Darrious Kril Cos. Now you may think, big deal, but you have no idea who else I play, nor the people I know. Oppps, I am sorry, I am wrong about that... you are the one uses ISP numbers.... oh well, doesn't matter, I will still refuse to recognize you until you stop playing the schoolyard bully and play fair.

Do us all a favor, Kril, find an unoccupied city and run with it. Do it right this time.

Ais mun
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: OOC invasion of Cos and its response
Date: 6/5/00 3:44:18 AM Central Daylight Time
From: OlderTarl
To: Ubar Lurius

OOC:
After reading the mail of the invasion of Cos I find myself questioning the reasoning of trying to r/p Gor at all.With Disney running rampent in the streets as is obvious by the e-mail invasion,which by the way could not happen as stated in the invasion mail. I myself play "book Gor" and stay as far from the dice rolling wannabes as possible.It is not plausible for a House no matter how large to completely over throw a country,nor is it plausible to "buy off "its officiating members.The loyalty one swears to his Homestone would not allow this to happen.I wish you well in your endeavor to raise Cos to the lofty goal of becoming a major player in the book cities.Ignore the e-mail SL set upon you by the Disney outcast from Kar and continue your work with in your city.
Tarl-mun

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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Email Invasion
Date: 6/5/00 7:03:47 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Kaldaran of Tor
To: Ubar Lurius

Tal


Thank you very much for the scroll. I was having a bad day until I read it. I laughed so hard my day just got so much better. If this man is Jeric mun as he says he is I can see him doing this. He has done it before actually in Thentis to yours truely. I had already started the city...had been its Ubar for almost two months. My computer crashed and I was gone for a week and a half though I was in contact with the city through a phoned friend who rped there as well. When I came back he had "overthrown" my court and had set up his own. I couldn't understand how a house in Ar...an ally of Thentis...could go against its own city by declaring war on an ally and then beat us. I mean Thentis has the largest flock of tarn calvery in Gor, well besides Ar maybe.

If I were you I'd just ignore it as well. Offer them to rp in your city as city heads or something if you don't have them. This will hopefully quinch their first for power because thats all it is. Jeric has started several groups and he only rps them until he bores or until it begins to topple. He then tucks tail and runs so he don't get blamed for piss poor leadership. After having started many cities here I've found that if you stick with something it blooms in time. This is just your first hurdle in building a great city. We all hit them and must overcome them to move on. It weeds out those who should and shouldn't be building cities. Ignore the fools and rp as you wish...send a scroll to your citizens as well as the rest of Gor (try the SA possibly) and tell them you are Ubar of Cos. If you wish to speak further on any matter don't hesitate to contact me. Until we speak again I wish you well.

Kaldaran
Administrator of Tor








Continued fighting of the OOC battle over Cos. This is posted only for evidence. The content of the messages is all the same it is always " I have so many more SN's then you" Note that these contacts were all made while Cosian citizens were roleplaying in good faith. No contact has been initiated with any of them for some time

Subj: mun note from Darrious mun Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:28:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: Aspen Amara To: Darrious Kril

Alexander the II and Ubar Lurius are harrassing Muns of Cos these two are the same Screen Name they will follow into rooms and send IMs, and emails. I advise that they are tossed everytime they bother you then they will no longer be able to bother you. They are upset that we built a Cos that thrives, and is a real city so they have had a few friends come into to rooms with them to disrupt our role play. and harrass are mun. Also they are sending unsolicited emails and web links. Please Toss when they harrass you and this will stop in short order. Brian C. Mun of Darrious Kril

Actual harrassment.


the pop ins

Subj: (no subject) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 5:13:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: Alexander the II To: Alexander the II
Darrious Kril:   If you want to role play with us your more than
 welcome, but if not dont use key words that make you part of our group. 
  Alexander the II:    Alexander the II:  im sorry but I have
 mmost of you blocked. I use names like Cosian gardens. and many others .
 sorry you have to be there 
  Darrious Kril:  CosWa 
  Darrious Kril:  is key words 
  Alexander the II:   as you all know your entire group is on ignore
 by most of Gor. i do not see you thus where you are does not matter to me.  
  Darrious Kril:  actually we grew by another 40 people in 3 days 
  Darrious Kril:  we are not much on ignore by anyon e 
  Darrious Kril:  ::chuckles:: 
  Alexander the II:   your numbers are irrelavant as you have broken
 a mainstay of Gorean role play. You are all on ignore and all I can do is
 inform people of the situation. I am sorry but you have had your chance to do
 the right thing and now all i can do is continue to show people what is going
 on.  
  Darrious Kril:  actually you are becoming known as gor wide stalker
  Darrious Kril:  and a fool 
  Darrious Kril:  but you do not care what people think of you  
  Darrious Kril:  then so be it 
  Darrious Kril:  you are a minority conving a few people 
  Darrious Kril:  of something and most of those are leaving you 
  Darrious Kril:  as they here the full facts 
  Alexander the II:   If you wish to post my mails and messaqges I
 would appreciate that. as long as they are not altered then I would be happy
 to allow people to see them. saying I am a stalker without proff is not good
 ronline courtesy either 
  Darrious Kril:  we gained 39 people just today 
  Alexander the II:   your numbers are irrelavnat 
  Darrious Kril:  actually we dont want your mails 
  Alexander the II:   they may easily be padded 
  Darrious Kril:  no the are very realvant 
  Darrious Kril:  AOL is not a dictatorship 
  Alexander the II:   everyone will continue to recieve notification
 of what is happening in cOS 
  Darrious Kril:  the one does not rule the many 
  Alexander the II:   THAT IS INTERESATING YOU SAY THAT 
  Darrious Kril:  you are the one 
  Alexander the II:    oops  
  Alexander the II:   everyone will continue to be told of what your
 groups is doing. it is the only way to control bad role play 
  Alexander the II:   it is the only way to let people see what is
 happening 
  Darrious Kril:  ::shrugs::  be careful harrassment and unsolited

 emails on large scale can get your account nulified 
  Alexander the II:   if you feel that I am doing so you may
 certainly say what you like 
  Alexander the II:   I believe the people will decide 
  Darrious Kril:  they have 
  Darrious Kril:  like 400 or so  
  Darrious Kril:  already 
  Darrious Kril:  and that number is growing in mass 
  Darrious Kril:  and most because they are starting to see you as a
 stalker 
  Darrious Kril:  you think I have mind control? 
  Darrious Kril:  that I make these people see things that way? 
  Alexander the II:   do you think that a number like 400 is a real
 number ? 
  Darrious Kril:  I assure you I do not have any such power 
  Alexander the II:   last nightit was 100  
  Darrious Kril:  I think its very really 
  Darrious Kril:  real 
  Darrious Kril:  that is our Cos 
  Alexander the II:   two days ago the directory search was 18 
  Darrious Kril:  other cities 
  Alexander the II:   it is amusing that that sort of thing matters
 to you 
  Darrious Kril:  as well 
  Darrious Kril:  the majority as always mattered to me 
  Darrious Kril:  has 
  Alexander the II:   thank you for contacting me. As you are not
 interested in doing the right thing I am sure you will understand if i do not
 desist in doing it  
  Darrious Kril:  your SN was not the one in my email 
  Alexander the II:   $im_off
  
  Darrious Kril:  I asked you to come play with us nothing more 

Little beauties like this one, where i am minding my own business and they come in to the room to tell us we are harrassing them

LadyAthyn: 	Xavier Damondred
LadyAthyn: 	why?
OnlineHost: 	Syndrea Saber has entered the room.
Syndrea Saber: 	~chuckles seeing it here and decides the harassment just isn't worth staying for~
OnlineHost: 	Syndrea Saber has left the room.
LadyAthyn: 	 why do you ask Alex? 
Alexander the II: why do you think i ask 

Ims like this every day

Shailyn Talet: why are you using our keywords?
Alexander the II: im sorry but I have mmost of you blocked. I use names like Cosian gardens. and many others .
sorry you have to be there 
Shailyn Talet: no, not rooms...though I created most of the rooms you wander into..
which also baffles me. I'm asking why you use
"CosWa" a keyword of the Cos you ignore, if we dont exist. 
Alexande the II: as you all know your entire group is on ignore by most of Gor. i do not
see you thus where you are does not matter to me. 
Shailyn Talet: ::chuckles:: I haven't had problems with being ignored...I dont get into
 the petty politics of
muns and emails and whining on either side of this fight. I just dont
understand why if you ignore us, you would put a keyword CosWA in your p
rofile. If we dont exist, you shouldn't acknowlege us at all. 
Alexander the II: your numbers are irrelavant as you have broken a mainstay of Gorean role play.
You are all on ignore and all I can do is inform people of the situation. I am
sorry but you have had your chance to do the right thing and now all i can do
is continue to show people what is going on. 
Alexander the II: If you wish to post my mails and messaqges I would appreciate that. 
as long as they are notaltered then I would be happy to allow people to see them. saying I am a
stalker without proff is not good ronline courtesy either 
Shailyn Talet: uh huh...well this is not a new thing. Port Kar once had two Port Kars...if you
were here long enough you might even remember that. We do not acknowlege you, I
would think you should do the same. ::shrugs:: It really matters little to me.
I was just curious why you would acknowlege us, and then say we dont exist in
the same breathe. If you are here to play you should spend your time
strengthening your own city instead of focusing on the one you hate. 
Shailyn Talet: I do not post messages...quite frankly I'm not here for ooc sniveling.
Alexander the II: you should 
Alexander the II: it is a very useful way to show people what is going on 
Shailyn Talet: I'm sorry to break this to you..but 99%
dont give a flying fruitloop about this little inter agression. 
Alexander the II: if you believe that then I am sure it is no consequence to you wqhat I do
Shailyn Talet: They may see one side as wrong and one side as right...but no
one cares enough that they want to hear every conversation ever had on each
side 
Alexander the II: I will simply continue to tell everyone that will listen
, exactly what is happening 
Shailyn Talet: quite right ::smiles:: it was just idle curiosity that I spoke to you. 
Enjoy your day, happy Rping. 
Subj: (no subject) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:40:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: LadyAthyn To: Alexander the II
Darrious Kril:  Why are you playing with someone that follows us to
 rooms and harrasses? 
  Darrious Kril:  we have a 100 players 
  Darrious Kril:  and we really do not need the harrassement 
  Darrious Kril:  all of yor names are being sent out with mun
 warnings 
  Darrious Kril:  you know its really not very polite 
  Darrious Kril:  and another things 
  LadyAthyn:  why are you IMing me? 
  Darrious Kril:  this Alex Luther 
  Darrious Kril:  needs to stop sending everyone emails 
  Darrious Kril:  we are not on his mailing list 
  Darrious Kril:  nor do we want his unsolicited mail 
  Darrious Kril:  because you are hanging out with a stalker 
  Darrious Kril:  and there are about a 100 of us tired of it 
  LadyAthyn:  stop IMing me 
  LadyAthyn:  I don't care 
  Darrious Kril:  so now we are giving all your screen names out 
  Darrious Kril:  so people are warned 
  Darrious Kril:  and know what you are doing 
  Darrious Kril:  we did not come to you 
  Darrious Kril:  you guys came to bother us 
  Darrious Kril:  its not funny when shoes on the other foot 
  Darrious Kril:  we do not like being harrassed 
  Darrious Kril:  I am sure you do not either 
  Darrious Kril:  as long as you guys follow us around and bother us
 then it will not stop if you leave us alone we leave you alone 
  Darrious Kril:  very simple 
  Darrious Kril:  be well 
Subj: Log of Steelhawk Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:24:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: Talinda of Ar To: Alexander the II
OnlineHost:     Logan Steelhawk has entered the room.
 Logans lexi:    :;she looks at  a pastry vendor:::;;
 Logan Steelhawk:    shakinghead
 Logans lexi:    :she smiles at the sparkling sugar:::
 Logan Steelhawk:    lexi you are to ignore alexander the ll
 Logans lexi:    yes Master
 Logan Steelhawk:    his mun is a child 
 Talinda of Ar:  ::looking up she smiles at Lexi::
 Logan Steelhawk:    ::nods to the rest of them as I leave::
 OnlineHost:     Pimps Time has entered the room.
 Pimps Time:     CLICK HERE FOR THE HOTTEST LIVE FUCK
 SHOWS!OnlineHost:  Pimps
 Time has left the room.
 Logans lexi:    :smiles:
 Logans lexi:    greetings to you Mistress
 Logan Steelhawk:    who is from cos ??
 Logan Steelhawk:    ::looks around:: speak up
 Talinda of Ar:  I am no longer a Mistress
 XI una IX:  we are Master
 Talinda of Ar:  I am now in Cos, Master
 Logan Steelhawk:    then you are to listen to me what house you in
 Logans lexi:    oh well greetings sister
 XI una IX:  ::the blode girl spoke softly.. motioning to tali as her
 arm slipped within hers::
 Logan Steelhawk:    same as Alex?
 Talinda of Ar:  yes Master..
 Logan Steelhawk:    sad 
 Logan Steelhawk:    what house is that 
 Talinda of Ar:  I am the slave of Zamalon
 Talinda of Ar:  I know not, Master..
 Logan Steelhawk:    just so you know all of Cos is now putting him
 on ignore 
 XI una IX:  Zamalan  ::she corrected her sister with a chuckle::
 Logan Steelhawk:    he is but a child 
 XI una IX:  (you talk of OOC things in the story line)
 Talinda of Ar:  yes, yes Zamalan
 XI una IX:  (if you are speaking of the invastion by house wicked
 embrace.. then you speak of children)
 Logan Steelhawk:    heel lexi any that deal with Alex is not to be

 acknowledged as sad as that may be 
 Logans lexi:    yes Master
 Logans lexi:    be well sisters
 Talinda of Ar:  I wish you well too sister
 OnlineHost:     ReneeStzz has entered the room.
 Logan Steelhawk:    I am of Selnar on cos but head of the Caste of 
 Logan Steelhawk:    warriors he does not speak to me as such we go
 Logan Steelhawk:    ::leaves::
 Talinda of Ar:  ::glancing at Una, puzzled::
 OnlineHost:     Logan Steelhawk has left the room.
 OnlineHost:     Logans lexi has left the room.

Subj:   Re: Item for the Sa
Date:   Fri, 16 Jun 2000 3:57:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:   Ubar Lurius
BCC:   Syndrea Saber, Ubar Lurius, LadyAthyn, Alexander the II, Zamalan, K wiId A, Talinda of Ar, Carnal of Tyros, Jaden Gray, Druigar
You are as usual misinformed. Your constant insistence I do not use dice is,

as always wrong. Your instance you played in good faith is wrong as the dated
IM to Darrious occurred the very day of the email invasion. You are not
telling the truth now. He was contacted immediately, by me, though he did not
bother to contact me. Thus, I gave him plenty of time to simply &#8220;take
it back.&#8221; He had no web pages, no plan of war, no announcement ready.
All he had to do was change the names in his email to some un supported city
and it would be done. It is clear to everyone that you are not actually
interested in fair play as all you can really claim is that you are "bigger"
I ask you this, if Ar had 7, muns and the city of fort Haskins had 20 does
that mean fort haskins is more powerful? Your Role-play has been inaccurate;
your citizens have not taken the Ubar Lurius of Jad as their leader as they
were requested to in the beginning. If all you ask me is to play under you,
why is it that what I am asking is any different? If you wish to play in Cos
then simply do so by the rules already established for Cos. it&#8217;s that
easy. The point is is that you are not willing to work with others you are
only willing to make demands. I have what is called &#8220;Fair claim&#8221;
to play in Cos. You do not. Fair Claim has long been accepted in AOL Gor, a
fact you seem to be ignoring. If that is how you want to be seen by others
that is all right by me. I will carve out a place in Gor that will be fine.
My devotion is to good and fair role-play with good and decent people. would
encourage you to stop using the names I established before you came.

Chatka and Curla Cos
Cosian Gardens
Pleasure Gardens of Cos
Market place of Cos
Walls of Cos
Vineyards of Cos
Slave pens of Cos
The Docks of Cos
Tavern in Cos

No doubt this will be impossible for you. And of course we will have over
lap. It can probably not be avoided. Let us simply not make snide comments
when we enter each others rooms shall we?
LadyAthyn: Xavier Damondred
LadyAthyn: why?
OnlineHost: Syndrea Saber has entered the room.
Syndrea Saber: ~chuckles seeing it here and decides the harassment just
isn't worth staying for~
OnlineHost: Syndrea Saber has left the room.
LadyAthyn: why do you ask Alex?
Alexander the II: why do you think i ask

And one final note. No one is fooled by the sudden influx in population in
several cities involved in fighting Port Kar the city your house was kicked
out of.


In a message dated Fri, 16 Jun 2000 3:10:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Syndrea Saber writes:

<<
I sent in the add, with the thought of equal coverage, we are building a
community. Now as to the email attack, it was made on a book character that
did not exist in AolGor, or so we in good faith believed. I say this because
I was there the day this was done, and did a member search, AOL came back
with nothing, I searched Cos, Lurius, UbarLurius, Lurius of Jad, and then a
search for each of the cities of Cos, each search returned Nothing. Now, I
have no clue why, be it that the SN's were temporarily deleted that day, or
perhaps AOL pulled a death and dumb, but we in good faith thought we were
taking over a deserted Cos. Then suddenly we get nasty emails making
accusations and threats. That to me was not honorable in and of itself. If
I have a problem with someone and/or someones actions I speak to them,
without accusation, without threat, without a nasty attitude and settle the
issue. By going on a mun attack this battle was lost. I, for one, make my
home in Selnar, Cos. We are building a community. Ubar Lurius now claims he
was there long before us and building a community, but I have now got two
SNs, and both belonging to the same mun. We have well over 45 muns, and even
more SNs, we are creating an active community that RPs daily. I do not see
how this harms the AolGor community. Cos has an up and running High Council,
we have met and will meet again, and we make decisions based on our
community. The way I see it we currently have more than one Cos, one that is
run with the basic rules and tenents of AolGor, and another that is Ubar
Lurius's, who by his own admission does not choose to use dice in his role
play, it is in his scroll for goodness sake. Every warrior caste on AolGor
uses dice, not to the exclusion of Role Play as his nasty slam notes and
letters and scrolls suggest, but in support of our role play. The way I see
it there is a mun attack going on, and it is not our Cosian community doing
it.
With or without the SA our community thrives. I know nothing of the claim
you make about your caste, I am not a scribe, and you chose not to elaborate.
So I am unable to even refer to that issue.
I do feel that this decision hurts those of us that consider ourselves
Cosian, and work daily to create a good RP environment, and for that I am
deeply saddened.
But you must do as you feel best.
Syndrea Saber
Mistress House Crimson Saber, Selnar, Cos
En'Healer to Cos

For the record I was joking about having to kill VL mun too.
Oh and an added comment here slightly off subject.
Have you seen the two ninjas in Gor lately?
one of them claims to be a secret agent for the japanese?
shadowdragonxxx
shizukaarashi



Date: 06/23/00 11:49:24 AM

Name: DarriousKril

Email: DarriousKRil@AOL.com

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: finally figured out this idiocy....


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::wonders why he always falls back to saying he is kidding or joking or how it is just humor perhaps badly done:: I hope this is the truth but you say this alot!

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Dear Raven. I was kidding . I hope that you can see this as I know that you are a reasonable man. you see the post i replied to was a cut on westcoast players and I was cutting right back since I am on the west coast. I am sorry you felt offended by my post.

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hmmm...late night players compared as trailer trash..how very fair and adult of you. How ever, I like to see them as those who work grave yard shifts...unable to switch to daytime hours on their days off and using the time to do as they wish, which you do during the day. ::shakes his head in disgust::::

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That is so horribly unfair and I am going to have to kill you. Here is my synopsis

East coast players, high on meta amphetamines and bad coffee, stay up late because the porch on their trailer is falling off and it makes a lot of noise in the wind. So, having gotten that government check to buy the computer and the Aol they sit in the Gorean arena chortling and chewing down pork rinds. Those of us on the west coast, having finished our Roleplay at a decent hour, are sleeping peacefully in our ocean view apartments a smile of contentment perched on our lips from an evening of painting beautiful scenes in perfect and cooperative roleplay.

Alexander
Cos Rules
storyline of Cos
https://www.angelfire.com/co3/RealGor/Cos6.html

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<<..OOC..>> Alrighty, then...whoo, long day. So, there I am deciding to go check out the Gorean action in the arena this fine Wednesday night...when what to my wandering eyes should appear, but...: A kid running into the sands to smack at the combatants with a wooden sword. One of the combatants deciding that an attack which consisted of regurgitating upon his foe's boots was some brilliant tactical thing. An idiot talking to his scimitar, I'm sure, believing he was wonderfully clever. A girl, in thoughts, accusing one of the combatants of cheating. Enough OOC to choke someone from Rhydin. And then it hit me. I looked at the clock...and found I was dealing with West Coast Goreans. Now, before you all shake your heads in understanding, lest we blame them for their place of birth, we must understand something about history. The lesson goes like this: The pilgrims land at the rock or wherever. Everyone gets out. Those of the party with no intestinal fortitude, character or sense of adventure, stop right there and throw up the tents. This group explains current-day New England. Those not lacking in the aforementioned qualities pushed on, knowing there had to be something better out there. Long did they travel across hill and dale, through good and bad weather, until they reached the Ohio Valley, where, to noone's surprise, the leaders declared their journey over...they had found paradise. Of course, they had weeded out the undesirables along the way, and wanted to keep their paradise just that. So, as more travelers came along, asking if they had reached Ohio yet, those already there looked, sized them up...and if they didn't like what they saw...pointed west. From there, of course, it was a matter of intelligence. The smarter you were, the sooner you realized you had missed Ohio and stopped your trip. This, of course, explains California. And, ultimately, explains that which I saw last Wednesday eve. I have long since forgiven them their ignorance, after all, you are who your ancestors were. I wonder how many of them drown before they realized they'd run out of land? V.L. mun.