Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Text in negative space

[Frances Wheeler <wdfran@peganet.com>]

I found text from the hidden "comment" off in negative space after locating the
offending parts I checked the comment location and placed it at 0,0 bringing
everything on board. I found the parts in question by doing "select" "outside area"
and selecting the board outline. All parts with negative text were highlighted.

Fran Wheeler
Wheeler Design

Ian Wilson wrote:

> On 04:44 PM 31/08/2000 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax said:
>
> >At 05:01 PM 8/31/00 -0700, Eric Albach wrote:
> >
> >> > You can tell where the material is by the box that displays when
> >> picking up
> >> > selected material and moving it. This box will include all selections,
> >> > including those outside the workspace.
> >>
> >>Thanks for the help.
> >>     This must be one of those rare cases.  I did what you said and only
> >> got a
> >>selection box around the object that I placed for moving.
> >
> >It would seem that the outside object is not selected. I'd try to select
> >it by procedures already described, then I'd try to find out what kind of
> >object it is. It is possible to have a component at a location with no
> >primitives at that location. Creating a spreadsheet from the board and
> >using Excel may assist in finding objects outside the workspace. I think
> >it is possible to edit object locations in a spreadsheet, but I haven't
> >tried to manipulate a PCB file from the spreadsheet for quite some time....
> >
> >It is also possible to delete objects from the ASCII database. But there
> >are a number of gotchas here, so be sure to save backups!
> >marjan@vom.com
> >Abdulrahman Lomax
> >P.O. Box 690
> >El Verano, CA 95433
>
> We may be looking at text or something associated with a component.  In
> that case it may not be being left selected by the procedures described.
>
> Save the PCB.  Try Selecting-All and then Move-Selection.  Zoom way way out
> until you can see the whole work area and then move the selection box until
> all of it is on the work area.  Find the entity(ies) causing grief and move
> them close to the real PCB area and then you can move the whole lot back again.
>
> I saw component text move to -ve offsets (independent of component
> location)  in P99SE before any SP came out. I thought it had been fixed though.
>
> Failing the above I suspect that saving-as an ASCII file may shed light on
> the entity causing trouble.  You may need to reset the origin - I am not
> sure how origins affect the ASCII file.
>
> Ian Wilson
>