ryzmom_advocate (ID=35) (Jun 20, 2000 12:16:30 AM)
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ryzmom_advocate (ID=36) (Jun 20, 2000 12:19:39 AM)
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ryzmom_advocate (ID=36) (Jun 20, 2000 12:19:58 AM)
Is anyone out there

cath (ID=37) (Jun 20, 2000 6:12:58 AM)
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Dorien (ID=38) (Jun 20, 2000 6:47:23 AM)
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brooklyn (ID=39) (Jun 20, 2000 7:16:42 AM)
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leigh (ID=40) (Jun 20, 2000 9:54:10 AM)
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debbie (ID=41) (Jun 20, 2000 10:13:43 AM)
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PSL (ID=42) (Jun 20, 2000 8:24:43 PM)
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Misty (ID=43) (Jun 20, 2000 9:02:04 PM)
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woody (ID=44) (Jun 20, 2000 9:02:13 PM)
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MistyJ (ID=45) (Jun 20, 2000 9:08:01 PM)
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MistyJ (ID=45) (Jun 20, 2000 9:08:32 PM)
hi

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:21:21 PM)
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socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:21:36 PM)
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socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:22:00 PM)
hello everyone

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:22:12 PM)
Hi Socks

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:22:24 PM)
how evry thing going?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:22:37 PM)
Same old thing

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:22:59 PM)
how about with you

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:23:05 PM)
ditto

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:23:27 PM)
saw a really good video on social skills

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:23:36 PM)
Rick Lavioe

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:23:58 PM)
Am I the exciting person or what?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:23:59 PM)
I'm lucky to have time to sleep

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:24:16 PM)
I probably need a social life!

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:24:30 PM)
Sleep? what's that?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:24:50 PM)
I do not have a social life

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:25:17 PM)
I keep thinking that when square away the kids then I can live again

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:25:59 PM)
I thought that way and now I have my 4 and the kids I work with

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:26:16 PM)
I had a teacher say onetime, when I asked for a daily checksheet,"well there goes my social life"

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:26:50 PM)
I told her,are kidding? this is my social life

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:26:58 PM)
How many kids do you have

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:27:10 PM)
I have two boys

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:27:27 PM)
I have 2 of each

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:27:47 PM)
one with ADHD,dysgraphia,and Math disability

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:28:08 PM)
and one with ADHD,CAPD,and sensory impairment

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:28:22 PM)
hows that for labeling

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:28:42 PM)
I have one with CAPD and one may have as well as having apraxia

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:29:13 PM)
And you work with kids? so do I

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:29:42 PM)
Ya! I am a family advocate

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:30:24 PM)
I am a nurse,work on a adolscent unit of a orthopedic pediatric hospital

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:30:29 PM)
Some days I just do not want to go to work

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:30:47 PM)
I hear you there!

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:31:17 PM)
How old are your boys

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:31:22 PM)
sometimes think I work more with other peoples kids,instead of my own

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:31:31 PM)
10 and 11

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:31:38 PM)
I agree with you

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:33:04 PM)
then,I spend so much time fighting the school systemthat I don't have the time for the kids either!

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:33:12 PM)
a losing battle

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:33:31 PM)
I need to be two people

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:33:34 PM)
I know what you are saying

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:34:21 PM)
I have to fight for my kids as well as my clients kids being most of their parents do not

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:34:34 PM)
currently fighting for language therapy on my youngest CAPD kid

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:34:52 PM)
that I know has to be frustrating!

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:35:26 PM)
I had to tell our school that I wanted a hearing to get my son services over the summer

woody (ID=44) (Jun 20, 2000 9:35:35 PM)
hi people debbie has to say HI!

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:35:39 PM)
I find a lot of parents are overwelmed and don't have the skills needed

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:35:40 PM)
That it is

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:36:15 PM)
and will you get one before the summer is over?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:36:18 PM)
But some parents do not even look at the IEP

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:36:34 PM)
or the psych eval

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:36:48 PM)
I did they know it will $ them more to have a hearing

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:37:37 PM)
unfortunately my district would rather pay it then to set a presidence

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:38:07 PM)
My school stated that they will provide it to him under 504

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:38:17 PM)
I did manage to get OT for him during the summer

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:38:31 PM)
and?

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:38:44 PM)
OHI?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:38:53 PM)
he will be getting s/t

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:39:02 PM)
Good!

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:39:30 PM)
I know that our school and know how to push

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:39:52 PM)
What do you think about the SLP calling me on the phone to inform me that he didn't meet the criteria for language therapy

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:40:16 PM)
why

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:40:20 PM)
and when I asked her to provide it in writing she refused

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:40:43 PM)
because his IQscores and Articulation scores

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:40:55 PM)
Tell her she needs to give it to you in writing

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:41:13 PM)
You have the right to this

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:41:16 PM)
he is in therapy for articulation why would he have to qualify for language therapy at all?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:41:38 PM)
got me

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:41:56 PM)
I wrote her a letter telling her about prior written notice and CC it to the Sped director

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:42:30 PM)
you can also cc to the bord of ed

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:43:33 PM)
I was told that a. she shouldn't have discussed it at all,that it should be discussed in the IEP team meeting,and b. he should of already met the criteria,based on the fact that she reccomends he stay in speech for articulation

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:44:13 PM)
and that she should just simply fortify his program to include the CAPD needs

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:44:19 PM)
you can ask for a hearing

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:44:37 PM)
this may help with this matter

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:44:44 PM)
I could but I don't want to have to go there if I can help it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:45:05 PM)
have four State complaints in on my oldest already!

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:45:18 PM)
mediation?

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:45:37 PM)
me and the Sped director are close

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:46:05 PM)
Our school even provided my Dtr with an FM unit before placing her under 504

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:46:31 PM)
have had an IEE,actually just requested another one ,and got the paperwork last week

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:46:44 PM)
he will get the FM in the fall

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:46:45 PM)
As for our Sped director I have told him what I think of him many times.

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:46:52 PM)
LOL

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:47:02 PM)
more or less

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:47:36 PM)
Mine told me in a meeting that he couldn't hold a gun to the teachers heads and make them do the right thing

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:48:04 PM)
No but some times I wish I could

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:48:13 PM)
so I told them,ok,then I will let the State dept and OCR do it then

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:48:58 PM)
I am willing to bet they have a picture of me some where

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:49:08 PM)
I just go to the school and tell them what I want and they know I will not go away until I get it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:49:29 PM)
Basicly that is where we are at too

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:50:02 PM)
but bless this girls heart she is a new therapist and doesn't know what she is up against

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:50:24 PM)
the district probably put her up to it

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:50:24 PM)
They do not need a piture I'm there so much we seem to be on a first name bases

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:50:32 PM)
LOL

tanya (ID=48) (Jun 20, 2000 9:50:41 PM)
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socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:50:51 PM)
Hi Tanya

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:06 PM)
Dorien,let me ask you something

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:06 PM)
Hi Tanya

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:23 PM)
do you charge for your services or are you volunteer?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:28 PM)
go for it

tanya (ID=48) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:31 PM)
hi

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:44 PM)
did you go through the level 2 training?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:51:50 PM)
I charge DFS

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:52:20 PM)
you work for them then?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:52:23 PM)
No I dod not need 2 training

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:52:43 PM)
No I am a private cont

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:53:06 PM)
just curious,because I have level 1 and was told to go and get level 2 also

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:53:44 PM)
I get to play with the schools and get paid by DFS to do it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:54:16 PM)
I would love to get into doing this for other people,not like I don't already,but if I could charge and do it full time I would stay at home and do it!

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:54:20 PM)
some times I just enjoy my job so much

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:54:43 PM)
I know I would

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:55:04 PM)
I have messed with minds in other States!

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:55:04 PM)
I love to go to the school and see there faces

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:55:18 PM)
I am quite sure

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:55:41 PM)
How did you get into this?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:56:21 PM)
I knew a lady who has been doing this for years

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:56:24 PM)
taken to writing letters for people and helping them with their IEP

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:56:50 PM)
What State if you don't mind?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:56:56 PM)
I also teach my parents how to read IEP

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:57:10 PM)
New York

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:57:41 PM)
I get to the school over part 200 of the education law

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:57:43 PM)
the only problem is I work with a volunteer advocacy group and don't know what they would think of me going into a practice of this

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:58:22 PM)
they are providing me with the training

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:58:28 PM)
Most do not mind

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:59:04 PM)
then again the ones who are doing it full time are way over burdened,and I work can't take time off to go to the meeting too

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:59:14 PM)
I know I am so happy when I find a parent that will open up

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 9:59:29 PM)
unless I could make money enough to

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 9:59:53 PM)
I know what you are saying

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:00:20 PM)
What state are you in

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:00:23 PM)
Most of the parents I work with have already reached the point of being overwhelmed with the BS

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:00:39 PM)
Florida

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:01:23 PM)
By the time I get into some homes they are looking for ways to keep their kids

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:01:43 PM)
The District would just die if I started going to other peoples IEP meetings!

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:02:00 PM)
OH I see,what you are saying

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:02:11 PM)
do you need a degree for this?

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:02:18 PM)
like MSW?

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:02:23 PM)
They would love it if I would stop going to other peoples meetings

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:02:33 PM)
LOL

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:03:20 PM)
But they wont get so lucky

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:03:23 PM)
so you do more then educational advocacy

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:03:50 PM)
I do family advocacy

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:04:37 PM)
I know in FLA. caseworkers are totally over whelmed with cases and get paid peanuts

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:04:52 PM)
I do to

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:05:33 PM)
anything to do with children,they don't fund enough

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:05:48 PM)
part of the system problem

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:05:51 PM)
but it is a job and if I can help one kid I know it is worth it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:06:06 PM)
True,friend:-)

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:06:22 PM)
I could be working in a law office

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:06:23 PM)
but I als like feeding the youngters

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:06:39 PM)
right that was my thought

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:06:46 PM)
But I want to this

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:07:06 PM)
I hear you

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:07:49 PM)
tried to talk a friend who is a mental health social worker into opening a practice together

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:08:07 PM)
Just yesterday I held a newborn client and knew if I can help his mother be a better parent I did more then I can put words to

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:08:25 PM)
Oh,this is TRUE

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:08:32 PM)
what it's all about

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:08:49 PM)
All we have is our kids

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:09:38 PM)
true,true

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:10:00 PM)
too bad this govermental systems can't see it that way

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:10:22 PM)
we are parents who care

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:10:36 PM)
It is always hard to get service in place for those kids that fall through the cracks

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:11:01 PM)
that is my BIGGEST frustration at work

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:11:28 PM)
I try to help as many as I can with the help of some good caseworkers

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:11:53 PM)
have a lot of physically impaired kids who can't qualify for CMS or medicaid but need something

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:12:18 PM)
I know most caseworkrs are not looked at like this but I have to say that I do work with a few

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:12:34 PM)
me too

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:13:17 PM)
One will even call me when he is at home to ask about how a client has been doing

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:13:25 PM)
it hurts when a know a kid has been pulled when it was a matter of giving more support to the family in the first place

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:13:39 PM)
that is nice

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:13:58 PM)
sometimes you know it is coming

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:14:23 PM)
I have done my shair of hot lines too

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:14:57 PM)
That is the part if my job that gets to me

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:15:06 PM)
like simply day care

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:15:38 PM)
and the parent doesn't make enough to pat for it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:15:43 PM)
pay

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:16:35 PM)
I also get mad as hell when it was a simple matter of the parent taking some initiative to aply!

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:16:35 PM)
I only do it when I do not have any other way around it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:17:16 PM)
or when you tell them how to get it and they don't

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:17:43 PM)
then I go to the caseworker and have them do it

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:18:56 PM)
I am going to say goodnight,I need to get up early tommorow

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:19:00 PM)
well it is getting late and I do have to get up early.

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:19:09 PM)
good night

socks (ID=47) (Jun 20, 2000 10:19:10 PM)
it was nice chatting,see you next week

Dorien (ID=46) (Jun 20, 2000 10:19:19 PM)
see ya

Barbara (ID=49) (Jun 20, 2000 10:54:36 PM)
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