Dorien (ID=12) (Jul 5, 2000 7:08:50 AM)
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debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:20:38 AM)
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dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:30:54 AM)
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dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:31:39 AM)
good morning debbie. Hope you had a great weekend - hope Sarah's birthday went well and you all had an enjoyable 4th.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:31:41 AM)
Good Morning Dr J! Did you enjoy your 4th of July holiday?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:32:14 AM)
Yes. As they often say, "Not long enough." It was really a great four days.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:32:29 AM)
Her birthday went very well. Sarah was so excited when she checked her email and saw the card from you! Thank you very much, that was very thoughtful of you.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:33:40 AM)
I worked last night so I only had a two day weekend, but we made the most of those two days! Once again Sea World was fantastic and this time we were able to try out the new super roller coaster, Kraken.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:33:40 AM)
Oh, that's ok. Our chats are like "family" if you understand what I mean. It was really nice for me as well to receive her reply. I thought it was really nice when she asked when was my birthday.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:34:44 AM)
Sarah asked me if it was ok if she emailed you back before she replied. She's a very thoughtful and sweet little girl. I think she put you in her address book! *LOL*

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:34:53 AM)
Did the girls like the rollercoaster (did mommy and daddy like it too :-) ) ?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:35:36 AM)
Mommy went on the roller coaster, the girls were a bit too short. Woody went to Orlando with us on Sunday but had to return Sunday evening so he could work a bit on Monday.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:42:36 AM)
Sorry that Woody had to work on Monday. Anne had to work Monday too from morning (she starts at 8am) ti'l 1pm, but we did have a nice BBQ monday afternoon/evening .

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:44:05 AM)
We had a very nice time on Sunday, when we were all at my twin sister's house. Woody is really good about understanding the girls and I going places without him when he is working. It's the same as him keeping the girls busy on the weekends with me working

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:46:02 AM)
In our family, we used to specifically set up a time for Mommy and Children day or Daddy and Children day and even for special days one child with Mommy and days one child with Daddy. The kids always looked forward to these special times. So, I can understand the girls looking forward to Mommy and "us" days and Daddy and "us" weekends.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:48:02 AM)
i think it is extremely important to have special time with the girls...i reallly want a close relationship with both of them so that they know they can trust me and that i'll always be here for them

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:50:56 AM)
gosh...it looks like it just may be you and me this morning in the chat....some of the parents may be recooperating from the holiday weekend

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:51:00 AM)
BTW, Debbie, SInce I was not in and I was busy on Friday with 2 CAPD evals, and I left early Friday pm to be home and pick up Josh from "summer Camp," I did not check the CAPD list. I'm just surprised that no one else is here this AM. I wonder if it's just slow because of the summer.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:51:37 AM)
You're message posted before mine. Interesting that we have the same thinking on this at the same time;-) :-)

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:51:57 AM)
that is scary that we are starting to think alike! *LOL*

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 8:52:34 AM)
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debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:52:40 AM)
i sent out a message on the email list on my site yesterday..but i didnt send one out on the listserv since so many of the people are the same...

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:52:48 AM)
good morning tiggerlyss!

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 8:53:07 AM)
Good morning Debbie

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:53:34 AM)
Did you enjoy your holiday?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:53:48 AM)
Good morning tiggerlyss. HOw are you this AM? Recuperated from the 4th weekend?

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 8:53:57 AM)
Yes very much. But now I am more tired than before it started

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 8:54:19 AM)
Good morning dr j

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 8:54:21 AM)
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debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:54:26 AM)
good morning Denise

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 8:54:41 AM)
good morning

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 8:55:19 AM)
have I missed anything

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:55:23 AM)
dr J and I were just talking about the chat being slow this morning following the holiday weekend...we are happy you both could join us

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:55:36 AM)
Good MornDenise. How was your 4th? Hope you had a great weekend!

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 8:55:51 AM)
it was wonderful

Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 8:56:12 AM)
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tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 8:56:37 AM)
Good morning Denise and Jacquie

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:56:49 AM)
good morning Jacquie!

Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 8:56:52 AM)
Hi all!

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 8:56:56 AM)
good morning

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:56:58 AM)
Good morning Jacquie. How are you this am? Hope you had a great 4th!

Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 8:57:11 AM)
Great 4th, thanks!

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 8:57:14 AM)
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Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 8:57:22 AM)
What's the topic today?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:58:17 AM)
For those of you who know about the events that happened last time we went to Sea World, this time Sarah and I went to the Artic exhibit again, but did not go on the ride.........we saw the same movie before the exhibit...she felt so much better!

Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 8:59:06 AM)
It's great that Sarah was willing to go to the movie again.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 8:59:28 AM)
Good morning Barbara. Hope you had a great weekend.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:59:38 AM)
Jacquie right now it's just open discussion....unless anyone has any paticular questions they

Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 8:59:41 AM)
Hi Barbara

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 8:59:41 AM)
Dr. Jay have you seen transient tic disorders or anxiety with children that have CAPD?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 8:59:45 AM)
would like to ask

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:00:17 AM)
Debbie, sounds like Sarah may have needed that second time around as a "set up" to understanding and being less sensitive to the situation.

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:01:29 AM)
Hello everyone. I am going to a SBST/CSE meeting in 15 minutes. I am going to set up my son's IEP. I just wanted to know if I need to ask for anything more. He is going to be given a consultant teacher, a speech pathologist and an FM unit in September to help him in class.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:02:45 AM)
Denise, transient tic disorders would not be associated with a problem in the reception (i.e., receiving) of auditory-verbal information since transient tics would have a motor basis. However, Anxiety could be related to problems in not understanding verbal information since the speaker will react to the incorrect or (interpreted by the speaker) inappropriate behaviors of the child. So, anxiety problems could be related to auditory processing problems AND because of being anxious, a child can break down in auditory processing so, this could be a cyclic problem.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:02:49 AM)
Barbara best wishes with the CSE meeting! I hope it goes very well for you!

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:03:37 AM)
Thanks

Jacquie (ID=17) (Jul 5, 2000 9:04:10 AM)
Question: How do I get my CAPD husband to "hear" me correctly when we talk. It is sooooo frustrating to constantly be misinterpreted. Especially when he turns around and gives "misinformation" to other people about our conversation.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:04:11 AM)
It sounds like the school is being cooperative...let us know how the CSE meeting goes!

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:04:36 AM)
Barbara, you're asking for input for your son's IEP. The first thing I hope you have is a clear understanding of the underlying factors accounting for any problems your son is having in receiving and dealing with (i.e., processing) auditory-verbal information. Unless you have a clear understanding of the underlying factors, you may not know exactly what are the appropriate accomodations and what goals will be needed in specific areas.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:05:35 AM)
Jacquie...when you are talking to your husband...do you incorporate questions into your converstation to check his comprehension?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:06:18 AM)
Thus, Barbara, be sure you have a clear, "layman's" understanding of the underlying factors accounting for your son's problems dealing with auditory - verbal information. From that clear understanding and knowing what are the underlying factors, you'll see which accomodations and what goals and services will be appropriate.

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:06:30 AM)
Dr J. How do you get a clear understanding of the underlying problems?

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:07:16 AM)
I'm not that clear on CAPD. I've been reading alot and asking people a lot of questions. I was not getting much help from his school at first. When I spoke with a supervisor at the District Office this is what they suggested. My son John has problems in reading and spelling. His short term memory is not very good.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:08:14 AM)
tiggerlyss, by being able to say, in your own words, exactly WHAT is going on when your child does NOT understand what is said to him. For example, if I told you or anyone here that your child had CAPD, would you really know what I meant by that in terms of understanding what is going on with your child that is leading him/her to misunderstand or to not get the auditory-verbal information presented?

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:09:20 AM)
I was told an FM unit would block out any distracting noises. A speech pathologist to help him focus and a consultant teacher to help him organize himself better and help him with reading. I am so confused

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:10:15 AM)
Barbara, please understand there is NO single entitiy called CAPD. CAPD is merely a term to label a wide variety of behaviors and there are many underlying factors that can account for problems in processing auditory information. What you want as the parent is a clear understanding of what are the factors that account for your child not being able to process auditory-verbal information, what test results support the conclusions that these are the factors. Once you understand the underlying factors, you'll realize that the accomodations and serivces and goals being offered by the school are appropriate or not.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:10:26 AM)
CAPD is a very broad category that covers many type of auditory processing problems..i'd be willing to bet that none of our kids in this room have the exact same problems with their capd

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:10:36 AM)
Dr J how can I find out how to remediate an integration deficit and to understand the findings in her audiological eval. I have read processing powers.

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:10:45 AM)
I am not sure of what exactly my son does not understand. I know when my son is not understanding and how to get him to focus attention to me. What I am concerned about is that my son will be leaving a special ed classroom and joining a regular classroom this coming year.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:11:13 AM)
Barbara, Barbara, let's focus on you as time is a factor here. From what you have been told, what is or are the underlying factors accounting for your son not being able to accurately and efficiently process auditory-verbal information?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:12:23 AM)
tiggerlyss...how old is your son?

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:12:35 AM)
My son is going to be five

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:13:07 AM)
All I was told by the audiologist was that he has trouble focusing when different sounds are brought into the picture. He brokedown when he was tested. My son is six

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:13:44 AM)
yes thank you

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:15:11 AM)
The report said that the SCAN test results indicate abnormal findings and are suggestive of a CAPD. Tesing demonstrated a significant weakness for computing words and filtered words. Findings are not age appropriate and are consistent with findings of a 5.1 year old child. He will be seven in August.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:15:14 AM)
another way to think of the underlying factor is similar to the example of going to the doctor because you have a headache..the dr can prescibe any medication for you unless he knows why you have the headache and what type of a headache it is...

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:16:01 AM)
oops..the dr can not prescibe....missed the not!

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:17:25 AM)
There are two things that we have identitified: my husband appears to fit most of the characteristics of CAPD and my son lost his hearing for about four months at age 11 months

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:17:35 AM)
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claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:17:48 AM)
hi

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:17:51 AM)
Barbara, what you need now is to have the team look at all of the test results and tell you the answer to the following question: "WHY can't my son focus on one thing when other sounds are brought into the picture?" You have test results that indicate that your son had problems on specific tests, but, what you need is to have the specialists identify the specific factors such as ......read next message....

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:18:01 AM)
Hi claudia

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:18:03 AM)
tigerlyss.....it will be very important for you to be in close contact with the school and his teacher from the very beginning..during the first few days of school, make sure you schedule a meeting with the teacher to discuss your concerns and inform her of any special needs of your son

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:18:15 AM)
hi claudia....happy you could join us this morning!

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:18:29 AM)
fine have one question?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:18:49 AM)
go ahead claudia....

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:19:12 AM)
What the Best activiies can a CAPD get involve.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:19:22 AM)
(1) problems understanding speech in noise could be due to distractibility by the extraneous noises (solution, remove the extraneous noises like using a personal FM system, control the input by keeping extraneous sounds and words out of the message and remediation would be something called noise desensitization training....or

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:20:23 AM)
Claudia...what type of activities are you referring to? educational? recreational? remeadiation? how old is the person who has capd?

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:20:41 AM)
receational? sorry,

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:20:59 AM)
(2) problems in identifying the primary message (usually teacher) from the irrelevant message (called a disorder of selective attention) Again, FM system helps, but clearly setting up what it is to focus on and setting up a cueing and reminder system to keep child aware of the relevant vs. irrelevant is important. Remedaition is to teach child to identify what is and what is not relevant and what cues or clues we get to the relevancy issue.

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:21:35 AM)
debbie...do you know of any resources out there that can help me help my son when his "patience" gets fried and we hit meltdown

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:21:43 AM)
she really doesnt have any friends, on the outs

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:22:00 AM)
Claudia, dont be sorry...one thing that we talk about alot in here is that each person is unique and very special..we dont want to give out at random answers or stereotype anyone with capd...how old is your daughter

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:22:41 AM)
(3) decoding problems may cause a child to have to spend so much energy getting the message and extracting the essential features from the message that energy is not available to filter out the extraneous noise. In this case, familiarization with the vocabulary, language development activities, phonemic awareness training is a phonemically based decoding problem, sound-symbol association (like Lindamood-Bell work) if it's a sound-symbol decoding problem.

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:22:43 AM)
9 years old and tiggerlys I have the same meltdown

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:22:57 AM)
tiggerlyss..does your son usually hit meltdown when doing homework or during what type of situations?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:23:05 AM)
Thus, knowing the underlying factor is very important to be sure you get the right services for your son.

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:23:28 AM)
my daughter does!!!

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:24:08 AM)
Usually at the end of the school day or when he has spent a lot of time with those who are not as understanding

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:24:50 AM)
Thanks for all your help and information. I'm sorry I have to leave. I will sign on another time and hope you can answer some other questions. I'm still waiting for some test results. Maybe then I will have some other information.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:25:01 AM)
I use to have alot of trouble with Sarah hitting meltdown when doing homework.....(use to cause mom to be extremely frustrated too)...

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:25:06 AM)
good luck Barbara!!!!

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:25:34 AM)
what we started doing was to break homework down into segments.......with a break in between...

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:25:38 AM)
Barbara, I hope you can get the IEP team to clarify the underlying factors for you and good luck on the meeting. Email me privately if you want to discuss this after the meeting or if you need more input or whatever. I'm happy to help as much as I can, Good luck with the IEP barbara.

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:26:42 AM)
Thank you. Where can I find your email address? Mine is S1J2A3C4@aol.com

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:26:47 AM)
Denise, I think you had posed a question earlier that I said I'd be happy to respond to later. Can you restate your question now?

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:26:54 AM)
My problem is that I am having difficulty finding ways to calm him down. I have been trying to work with him on finding ways for himself to calm down but recently he has been going from tantrum to meltdown in seconds

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:27:11 AM)
Barbara, mine is jay.lucker@gallaudet.edu

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:27:18 AM)
the hardest thing for Sarah use to be to write sentences..she has to write 15 sentences every Monday night, related to her spelling words for the week..so what we did was to write say 5 at a time with a break in between..or to get her words on friday and work on familiarizing her with them over the weekend so by time monday came she felt more comfortable with the word....it's the idea of preteaching

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:27:39 AM)
It very hard for me to have breaks with Mary, Because its hard to get her back to work

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:27:56 AM)
how can I find out how to remediat an integration deficit and to understand the findings in her audiological eval

Barbara (ID=18) (Jul 5, 2000 9:28:02 AM)
thanks so much Bye.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:29:00 AM)
this last year Sarah's teacher can also offered us the option of not turning in homework til Friday for the entire week..then if one night we had extreme difficulty..we'd just walk away and do something else..the only problem with this is not letting it pile up to thursday night.....

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:29:34 AM)
Denise,,thank you for your patience while Dr J talked to Barbara before she left for her IEP this morning.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:29:44 AM)
tiggerlyss, while I wait for denise to restate her question........you may want to check out if you don't already have this infor, whether your child may be what is called an "oversensitive" child. That is, these oversensitive children have general sensory sensitivities, auditory sensitivities and emotional sensitivities. They often like things very controlled by themselves because they have better expectations of the possible sensory input and they can prepare to react to it. So, you may want to check into SI factors as well as emotional sensitivity issues.

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:30:25 AM)
I am glad to have found someone that understands all of this I been waiting 2 yr LOL

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:31:16 AM)
Yes I am aware of Tyler's oversensitivity. Where can I find out more info?

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:31:42 AM)
Yes Please!!!!

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:31:47 AM)
Denise, You ask two questions. I'll address the second one, first, since that will lead to the answer to your first question. When a professional completes an evaluation, that professional should provide you with an understanding of the interpretations, conclusions and answer any questions you have. If that professional is not able to do so, you may have to find a professional consultant to review the test informaiton and integrate/synthesize the information in all of the tests and provide interpretation/conclusions and answer your questions at YOUR level of understanding.

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:33:27 AM)
how do I find a person like that, have been to UCLA they did not have anyone there, I am in Ca.

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:35:15 AM)
You open another door for me about my daughter being oversensitive. Thank you

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:35:33 AM)
tiggerlyss, I need to find this resource as well. BUt, about 1 month ago, a friend and colleague I know told me of a book that discussed The OVersensitive Child. It is about children with both the SI or sensory hypersensitivities and also emotional sensitivities. I've read and recommend to all the book The Out of Sync Child on sensory integration, but, it's very narrowly focused on SI issues and does not talk about the underlying issues of emotional and social factors the way this other book on the sensitive child approaches it. But, we can all try a search for a book on The Sensitive Child (I don't know the exact title). From what I understood that was told to me, these children often have tantrums, are very emotionally breaking down, cry easily, etc.

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:35:55 AM)
I have checked in 3 counties and this aud is through the school district, and only made suggestions for modifications I know he's not explaining the test results fully

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:36:25 AM)
Thank you Dr J.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:36:51 AM)
let me check the bookstore on my site for the title..be right back

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:37:44 AM)
How do you calm a child like that

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:37:52 AM)
How bad are your meltdowns?

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:38:11 AM)
sreaming matches between me and my daughter

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:38:14 AM)
.oO(Puch Up)

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:39:16 AM)
time is always a question, Homw many minutes, Am i done yet ? I have to go to the bathroom

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:39:24 AM)
My son starts with screaming but it quickly disintergrates into him slapping his ears and headbanging

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:40:39 AM)
tiggerlyss, what you call meltdowns, I have called "crashes" if that's what we mean. I call a "crash" when the child falls apart, often crying, knowing something is wrong, being overwhlemed, etc. Then there is what I call "shutdown" when the child comes up with TOO MUCH sensory input that the child sort of freezes and may just sit there or may go off into "another world" (Isn't that the name of a soap opera ;-) )

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:42:11 AM)
Dr J when my son gets like that I can't communicate at all with him and he retreats so much that he doesn't want to be touched

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:42:37 AM)
My daughter did this for 3 hours, regarding to a simple book report, she just sat there

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:42:43 AM)
and did nothing

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:43:58 AM)
My son will if put to a battle of wills, will just sit there but generally will allow himself (create a situation) in which he crashes

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:44:23 AM)
Claudia, one thing that may help is to change the stimulus-response pattern here. For example, often children who are so time concerned often feel that they are OUT OF CONTROL with their lives. So, you can provide a clock for the child or a timer. Set the timer or set a specific "deadline" on the clock. For example, "You have from now (big hand on the 10) until the hand is on the 11 for do your work (that would be 5 minutes in this example). Then, when the child asks, "Is it time yet?" You merely can say one of the following: "Well, does the timer or clock say it's time yet?" or "What do you think when you look at the clock (or timer)?" Etc. The goal is to give the child a way to externally monitor his/her own time and not be so dependant on the adult who, the child may feel, is the ONLY person who can control the time. NOT ME! We want to give the child back the feeling of "ME, I can control the time."

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:45:33 AM)
I just want to cry

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:46:07 AM)
Recreation? What do you recommend Dr.

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:46:43 AM)
This is such a wonderful chat room Thank you all

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:47:39 AM)
Claudia...you are welcome..*hugs*....we are here to try and help one another... i hope you have joined the email list on the site to receive updates on chats

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:48:09 AM)
yes I have,

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:49:00 AM)
We all have smart kids but there are so many hurdles in their way

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:49:14 AM)
claudia...I understand the crying, There are times that I do because I get frustrated in not being to help Tyler

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:49:19 AM)
i've been looking though the bookstore on the site..if you enter the word sensitivity under a keyword search..there are many titles that come up....some of them pertain to sensitivity in children specifically

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:49:22 AM)
tiggerlyss, you are right. This can happen if the problem is sensory oversensitivity. The child does NOT want to be touched, so, just stay nearby, express what you believe your child is feeling .... put those feelings to words so the child can learn, via modeling, how to express his/her feelings. For example, if you see your child is begining to "overload" stop putting more sensory information into the child's system. Then you might feel the child is "frustrated" so you can say "You look like you're frustrated. I don't like feeling frustrated; it hurts to be frustrated." Notice, somewhere, if we read our kids right. We're validating their feelings, giving them the words to express what they feel and we;re there for them. ANd, yes, claudia, it's hard and you want to cry, and, as a parent of an oversensitive child, often, after some of these difficult situations, I do go with my wife in our bedroom and sit and "cry."

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:49:57 AM)
Outsiders and even my own family dont understand

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:51:24 AM)
None of the family physically around me understands. When my son is with his grandparents he is able to "control" himself but when he gets home watch out

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:51:26 AM)
claudia, no there are no more hurdles in their way then there are in the way of every child in the world. every person in the world. The diffierence, most people will help other kids over the hurdles, while for children with processing problems adults and others often build more hurdles and often do NOT help them around the hurdles because they are trying to help them CLIMB up when the best way around for the children is to crawl underneath (if you understand my analogy here)

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:52:26 AM)
claudia there are still many times that i sit and cry ..the night i started this website i sat at my computer and cried..it was the first night i ever talked to another parent of a child with capd

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:52:45 AM)
Under the hurdles I really like that term

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:53:23 AM)
Dr J ... are there any resources for helping a child find his own way to learn how to calm those raging emotions?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:53:24 AM)
Claudia, yes, you're right. Outsiders and other family members who don't live with children with processing issues do not understand, how can they? We don't even understand these children as professionals as a group. We need to stop looking at these kids as if they were a group and start looking at them as individuals and trying to look at the factors underlying the behaviors and not the behaviors that annoy us, embarase us, cause problems, etc. My wife has a wonderful way to put it......

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:53:37 AM)
Debbie what a wonderful place to go and have validation on this subject

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:53:37 AM)
I thank God for you Debbie

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 9:54:07 AM)
Debbie, this has become a godsend for me.

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:55:19 AM)
Dr. Could this have be could in the early stages of toddlers

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:55:35 AM)
me too

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:55:41 AM)
could this be found in the toddlers age

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:55:43 AM)
the parents in this chat as well as the wonderful professionals such as Dr J, are what keep me motivated and the good Lord above is the one who should be thanked =)

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:57:59 AM)
Well I got to go. But I will be back, Thanks for the Information My eyes are open to new

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:58:05 AM)
ideas

claudia (ID=19) (Jul 5, 2000 9:58:14 AM)
bye thanks again

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 9:58:17 AM)
claudia...i hope to chat with you soon!

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:58:28 AM)
Amen

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 9:59:16 AM)
Bye Claudia

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 9:59:19 AM)
Everynight, after your really difficult children after a really difficult day go watch your child (in our case, our son) sound restfully sleeping. And then, reflect on how often during that day your child said "I love you" verbally or non-verbally and in any and all ways.

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 10:00:37 AM)
Dr. J is there a good time to call ?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:00:54 AM)
tiggerlyss, your questions about helping a child work on his/her emotional factors is in the relm of a child psychologist. I'd both suggest that's the place to go and say, from my own personal experiences, that's the right professional, just finding the professional who is family oriented and understands oversensitive children is the factor.

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 10:01:30 AM)
I do think of that every noght. The one thing that has helped me is the simulation of CAPD that I found on the web. Until I heard that, I understood my son's difficulties educationally but not emotionally

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:01:31 AM)
Denise, if you wish to call me, usually the best time is in the afternoons from 1 - 4 pm eastern time.

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 10:01:40 AM)
Thank you Dr. J

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:01:53 AM)
last week i was at work and Sarah sent me a message online...now it's important to know that i really feel as if sarah has been making alot progress and doing well.........the message she sent me was "where is the remen chalking troll?"

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:02:03 AM)
i has no idea what she was trying to ask me..

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:02:30 AM)
.oO(Push up)

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 10:02:51 AM)
Thank you Dr. J

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 10:03:21 AM)
Well I got to be going. My daughter's speech therapist will be here soon.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:03:24 AM)
i had to ask sarah what she meant..i felt really silly when she replied "the thing you use for the tv"

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:03:40 AM)
take care tygerlyss....see you soon!

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:03:54 AM)
tiggerlyss, bye for now. Hope to see you again on a chat or on the CAPD list.

tiggerlyss (ID=15) (Jul 5, 2000 10:04:14 AM)
Thanks everyone. It has helped me start my day off right. Bye

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 10:04:37 AM)
Bye tiggerlyss

Denise (ID=16) (Jul 5, 2000 10:05:13 AM)
I need to go also, thank you for a wonderful moring

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:05:29 AM)
goodbye Denise....have a wonderful day!

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:06:14 AM)
debbie, now Sarah is correct ;-) there's a little troll inside the TV how has a piece of chalk and when you press the button on the remote, the troll writes the directions to the remens (the little men who work inside the TV) and the remens read the chalk marks of the troll thus, the remen chalking troll. (Just kidding) but what a wonderful way for Sarah to decode remote control.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:07:37 AM)
When I finally figured out what Sarah was referring to at first I thought it was kind of funny (cute) then as I thought about it a bit longer it blew my mind...it really reminded me of the Little Red Riding Hood simulation online...I got really frustrated

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:09:32 AM)
Debbie, I understand what you are expressing. It is cute (hence my comments) and I often love to see how the kids have figured out what they say. Often, they decode one way (not the exact message) and they try to make sense out of the misdecoded message by changing some other words or other things.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:10:47 AM)
are you familiar with the little red riding hood simulation online?

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:12:24 AM)
A great example is a comment from my son Chris (at the time of this comment he was, say, 5 or 6 years old). We had a tape of sing along songs for the car. One was Camptown Races. The actual words go "Camptown ladies sing this song, doo dah, doo dah. Camptown racetrack five miles long, all the doo dah day......." He sang it "Camptown race track sing this song, doo dah, doo dah. Camptown race track.....etc. " When I asked him (rather than correcting him), what the words to that song meant, here's what he said.

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:14:16 AM)
"It's about a camp town (interpretation, a town in which people live in tents, etc. a campgrounds) and they have a race track which is silly for a camping town. SO, the first line of the song means "Can you imagine that this camping town has a race track, so sing along doo dah, doo dah. ANd did you know the race track is five miles long when the race goes no all day long."

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:14:30 AM)
What he had decoded he tried to integrate and make sense out of.

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:14:56 AM)
I was feeling so good about the progress that I was seeing in Sarah, and I still do, but I think the remen chalking troll showed me how far we have to go.

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:15:17 AM)
(This user has entered CAPD: From the Heart)

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:15:29 AM)
hi yomammy

dr.j (ID=14) (Jul 5, 2000 10:15:31 AM)
Debbie, I just received a phone call that I need to take. So, I'd better say good bye for now. SHall we pick up on Monday morning our regular time?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:15:35 AM)
hello anyone still here?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:15:47 AM)
that sounds great Dr J....see you then....

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:16:03 AM)
I"m still here yomammy....=)

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:16:05 AM)
hello i am a 22 yr old capd patient

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:16:21 AM)
how long have you known you have capd?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:16:37 AM)
or should i ask. how long ago was capd diagnosed?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:16:44 AM)
it was late onset when i was 20

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:17:19 AM)
you didnt have any noticable trouble when you were younger?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:17:40 AM)
i had a brain tumor and was operated on in 98 i was in a coma for five months and when i woke up couln't hear right

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:17:48 AM)
no

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:17:57 AM)
can't walk right either

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:18:22 AM)
what type of help are you receiving for the processing problems?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:18:59 AM)
i wear a phonak digital hearing aid one of the new beam forming ones and have done fast for word

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:19:00 AM)
that's remarkable that you woke up after 5 months!!

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:19:09 AM)
i know

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:19:21 AM)
and i feel very lucky

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:19:53 AM)
gosh i have millions of questions i could ask you....but did you have questions you wanted to ask?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:20:19 AM)
may i ask where you are from?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:21:00 AM)
i wanted to wake up intime for this chat but my alarm clock does not go off. not really but i would like to give you my web addrdess i am from minnesota luckely since i was lucky enough to be at st mary's hospital

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:21:44 AM)
i'd love to have the address.....we do have evening chats also =) there will be one tomorrow night from 8 to 10 pm EST

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:21:51 AM)
is your website on capd?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:22:16 AM)
alot of my family is from minnesota..im originally from iowa although now i live in florida

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:22:19 AM)
www.seee.org not spessifically on capd

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:22:39 AM)
thats a possitive move from iowa

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:22:54 AM)
yes it was..i've been in the south for 12 years now

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:23:52 AM)
he he. my site is on my organization known as Soceity for Equal Exposure in Entertainment

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:23:59 AM)
can you tell me a bit about seee?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:24:10 AM)
im working now to open an nonprofit organization on capd

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:24:42 AM)
yes we are striving for more captioning and other accomidations in media

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:24:56 AM)
are you a nonprofit organization?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:25:17 AM)
i want to have a kind of ad on for capd. not for profit

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:25:37 AM)
how long has your organization been in existence?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:25:46 AM)
2monthst

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:26:05 AM)
we have named one of our audiology co chairs

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:26:20 AM)
how long did it take you to get started? have you filed the 501(c)3 status?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:26:44 AM)
Dr Dave Fabry PhD.

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:27:13 AM)
no not status filed yet i need to find out more on that

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:27:26 AM)
i can get you the information on that if it would help you out

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:28:08 AM)
i have all the irs forms...but haven't filed yet...i'm still deciding who is going to be the third person on the board of directors..in florida we have to have a minimum of three

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:28:12 AM)
it would help most certainly. i am currently doing step for word buth aided and unaided

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:28:36 AM)
let me get the website for you...do you have a moment?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:28:40 AM)
me myself and irene

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:28:50 AM)
yes

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:29:26 AM)
http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/prod/bus_info/eo/eo-custsrv.html

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:29:43 AM)
do you have an email address i coudl send some information to?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:30:05 AM)
i've done alot of research on nonprofit status..i'd be more than happy to share

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:30:29 AM)
yes yomammyrr @go.com or soon michael1@seee.org

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:31:15 AM)
dang space bar

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:31:29 AM)
i've been hesitant to file the paperwork on the nonprofit...

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:31:40 AM)
why?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:32:50 AM)
good question.....wanting to make sure i have everything right so i dont let anyone down

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:32:56 AM)
on that website where do i go for nonprof info

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:33:54 AM)
im being very careful aswell i have been concerned with seeming like im out to proffit when im not

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:34:40 AM)
i just sent you some information via email..just a list of 4 sites.... on the first site i sent in here..there is a 1-800 number you can call and they will mail you hard copies of allthe forms you need to file for the 501(c)3 status

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:35:08 AM)
my other concern is the funding it takes to run a non profit and if what im doing is a viable option...

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:35:53 AM)
there are so few capd people thats why i went for entertainment

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:36:37 AM)
there are more people with capd than what most realize..it' s just a matter of finding each other and demanding public awareness to this disorder.

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:36:39 AM)
sensorineural is much more common

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:36:57 AM)
my daughter who is 9 was diagnosed capd 2 1/2 years ago.

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:37:13 AM)
do you know anyone around my age

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:37:27 AM)
i use to think there were very few people with capd..until i started this site 1 year ago.

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:37:52 AM)
i bet

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:38:16 AM)
there is a story on my website called "I Listen With My Heart" by Lara Harding...she is 23 I believe..she has capd and some other physical impairments.

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:38:43 AM)
how is she doing

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:39:27 AM)
she's had capd since she was very young....she is doing great..she's going to college..she still struggles..but is very outspoken about her capd....

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:39:29 AM)
is your daughter or anyone trying ffw

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:39:37 AM)
may i ask...how are you doing?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:40:24 AM)
my daughter went through FFW last fall...we just went through a capd reevaluation a few weeks ago....

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:40:28 AM)
im doing very well i am applying for a job i will not likely get as the executive director of the mncdhh

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:40:43 AM)
what is the mncdhh?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:41:14 AM)
how did it work for her. MN commission for the hard of hearing and deaf

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:41:34 AM)
it has helped me greatly

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:41:43 AM)
step for word is better

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:41:50 AM)
my daughter also uses a FM Easy Listener in school.....we are seeing some progress in some areas but still struggles with integrations deficits

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:42:13 AM)
did she do it aided or unaided

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:42:13 AM)
we've not done the step forword

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:42:26 AM)
what do you mean?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:42:42 AM)
i reccomend step i mean with or without hearing aid

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:43:16 AM)
i monitored the program at home with her...she uses an FM but not the hearing aid....she wore headphones while doing FFw

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:43:51 AM)
headphones were no good for me

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:43:55 AM)
although my daughter had capd she does not have any hearing loss

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:44:12 AM)
really

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:44:15 AM)
that's what took so long to diagnose her capd....we went to aud for 4 years

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:44:42 AM)
what do you mean by hearing loss there is no loss in my ears but idon't underestand speach well

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:45:05 AM)
i have a phone call ...will be just a sec

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:46:36 AM)
you said you wear a hearing aid..do you have a hearing loss?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:47:38 AM)
or did i misunderstand? i thought you had a hearing loss in addition to the capd

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:47:42 AM)
yes i do there is no technical ear type hearing loss but it helps

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:47:59 AM)
no no realy\

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:48:31 AM)
not sensorineural hearing loss

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:49:03 AM)
oh ok..sorry i misunderstood

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:49:28 AM)
may i ask..what do you find most frustrating about the capd?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:50:31 AM)
well my capd is accompanied by vestibular balance problems and i think its the combination of the two

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:50:59 AM)
keeps me bottled up at home

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:52:10 AM)
kept me in a wheel chair for 8 months iam constantly thinking about how there are so many others who have it worse

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:52:27 AM)
sorry for delay....

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:53:03 AM)
you are to be commended for reaching out to help others......

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:53:12 AM)
not a problem got 5 other windows goin

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:53:46 AM)
thank you very much i want to help others and myself at the same time

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:54:01 AM)
that's they way i felt when i started this site...

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:54:35 AM)
would you ever be interested in talking to family members of those affected by capd in one of the open chats?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:54:43 AM)
i bet. it must be awful to be the parent of a little one with this awful dissorder

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:55:37 AM)
yes i would i would love some essays on capd from people like that or those afflicted themselves

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:56:02 AM)
the disorder is frustrating ,,but Sarah is a remarkable little girl..she knows she had capd and that she dont process everything right,,,but we've told her it's just like wearing glasses and not seeing right....God made each of us special and unique...

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:56:55 AM)
yes and Fast for Word is just like glasses for the ears

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:57:08 AM)
talking to parents, i can express my feelings and what i see in my child with capd,,but i cant explain to them what it is like to have capd....you can offer the parents a unique perspective that i cant

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:57:15 AM)
very good anaology

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:57:38 AM)
thats not mine

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:58:22 AM)
but it explains it so well....my daughter firmly believes she can be anything she wants to when she grows up..she may just have to work a bit harder....she has a very posotive attitude

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 10:58:55 AM)
did i see earlier your name is Michael?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:58:58 AM)
has your daughter been afflicted since birth

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 10:59:03 AM)
yes

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:00:16 AM)
im sorry if thats already been established

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:00:42 AM)
we first noticed her having problems about 1 1/2 to 2 years of age

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:00:55 AM)
we noticed a speech delay and i suspected hearing loss....

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:01:17 AM)
huh that must have been very hard

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:01:24 AM)
i knew there was somehting wrong but didnt know what....whenever i asked the pediatrician,,i was told different kids develop differently

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:01:33 AM)
how did she learn to speek?

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:01:36 AM)
frustrating....

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:02:08 AM)
yeah im so glad to have mayo around here

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:02:22 AM)
she spoke,,but her speech was delayed..she learned to talk later than most..said fewer words than most kids..she liked to speak in a very garbled manner...it drove me nuts..*L*

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:02:22 AM)
thank my lucky stars

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:02:47 AM)
i've been to the mayo in rochester myself...they have excellent doctors there

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:03:16 AM)
i saw some orthopedic specialists there back in 1983...

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:03:43 AM)
i bet. its frustrating to not understand. yes they do but its the mayo way of doing things that makes it so good

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:03:48 AM)
does your family understand your processing disorder?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:04:13 AM)
they try to as do my friends

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:04:37 AM)
my family is supportive..but i dont think they really understand capd

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:04:55 AM)
no one does i sure as heck don't

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:05:15 AM)
are you on the listserv by dr J?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:05:39 AM)
we try but there is no way. dr j listserv? im on bh and bhnews

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:06:17 AM)
i got on one about these chats

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:06:28 AM)
Dr J that was here earlier is a professor at Galludet University in Washington DC...he runs a listserv on CAPD that is phemonenal

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:07:09 AM)
there is so much good information put out by parents and professionals....you may want to join ...there is alot of email though!! be prepared!

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:07:10 AM)
i think thats the guy dr dave was telling me to get a hold of that guy

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:07:42 AM)
where do i go to sign up

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:07:49 AM)
Dr J is going to be sitting on the board of directors for the non profit i am starting..he is extremely knowledgable about capd..he's been a godsend to me..

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:08:08 AM)
let me get you the addy.....or you can click on the lime green banner up above when it comes up

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:08:49 AM)
do you know of dr dave? he's wonderful

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:09:21 AM)
no i dont...does he have an email addy that you can give out? I'd enjoy corresponding with him

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:09:33 AM)
the addy for the st john's listserve is http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/index.html

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:09:45 AM)
they have lists for about everything!!!! it's greta

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:09:47 AM)
oops great

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:10:24 AM)
there may be some other lists there that you may find helpful since you are facing more issues than capd

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:10:27 AM)
not yet but soon i want to set one up for him soon and the other co chair as soon as i announce he/she

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:11:06 AM)
do you have to have a minimum number of people on your board in the state of minnesota?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:11:25 AM)
dunno

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:12:19 AM)
if i may give you a bit of advice..before you accept any funds for anything..check with the state..there are forms you have to fill out before you accept any contibutions or funds of any kind....

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:12:49 AM)
thanks

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:13:10 AM)
you usually not only have to file the IRS forms,,but state..the state forms in florida are very brief..but that's what makes you the legal entitiy

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:13:36 AM)
i havent is all out of pocket so far

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:14:00 AM)
same here..i've been paying for this chat and everything so far....

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:14:17 AM)
how much

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:14:20 AM)
but you also have to reserve your business name...

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:14:49 AM)
been wabtin to

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:14:55 AM)
how much for this chat?

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:15:04 AM)
ya

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:15:17 AM)
i'll tell you that privately....hold on..

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:15:57 AM)
.......

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:16:46 AM)
sealed

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:16:55 AM)
thank you...=)

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:17:08 AM)
cool

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:17:48 AM)
by the way..i do archive the transcripts to all chats...do you mind if this conversation is included..i know it includes some personal information....and i'll leave that choice to you...

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:18:15 AM)
i must go now

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:18:33 AM)
ok..i hope you keep in touch...if i can help any way..please let me know!

yomammy (ID=20) (Jul 5, 2000 11:18:37 AM)
yes include

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:18:42 AM)
ok..thank you....

debbie (ID=13) (Jul 5, 2000 11:18:57 AM)
have a great day!!

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