Gm Onta G42: zialeas
Gm Onta G42
: halp meh
Gm Onta G42
: wat is
Gm Onta G42
: (z-1)/(z+1)-(z+1)/(z-2)
Gm Onta G42
: halp
ExecutorZileas
: -z + 3
Gm Onta G42: whoa really
ExecutorZileas
: well not quite
Gm Onta G42: eh
ExecutorZileas
: -z + 3 / (z+1)(z-2)
Gm Onta G42: back of the book says somethin else
Gm Onta G42
: hey
ExecutorZileas
: but thats the cleanest way to do it
Gm Onta G42: thats what i got too
Gm Onta G42
: but the back of the book disagrees
Gm Onta G42
: asdf
ExecutorZileas
: (3-z)/[(z+1)(z-2)]

Gm Onta G42: i think the book is wrong
ExecutorZileas
: Take it from the MIT graduate!
Gm Onta G42: indeed
ExecutorZileas
: The easiest way to check is to plug in two sets of numbers
ExecutorZileas: try it for z = 0 and z = 3
ExecutorZileas: for z = 3 its 2/4 - 4/1 which is -3.5 (using poriginal formula)
using reduced formula thats like oh that doesnt work hm

ExecutorZileas: whats book say
Gm Onta G42: book says
Gm Onta G42
: 1-5z/(1+1)(z-2)
Gm Onta G42
: er
Gm Onta G42
: 1-5z(z+1)(z-2)
ExecutorZileas
: lemme recalcuate holdon
Gm Onta G42: my bad
ExecutorZileas
: multiply by z-2 z+1......... sop you get
z^2 -3z + 2 + z^2 + 2 z + 1 which is (-z + 3)/(z+1)(z-2)

Orig formula is z-1/z+1 - z+1/z-2

Gm Onta G42: ah
Gm Onta G42
: so book is wrong?
ExecutorZileas
: so if you plug in zero to both um.. the first one is 3/-2, and the original one is -1 - 1/2...
ExecutorZileas: so thats the same..
Gm Onta G42: oh
ExecutorZileas
: if you plug in 2........... then you get
ExecutorZileas: 1/0 which you cant compute so instead you do
ExecutorZileas: 3
ExecutorZileas: which gives ou 0/n which is
ExecutorZileas: 0
ExecutorZileas: compared to the original for 3 you get
ExecutorZileas: 2/4 - 4/1
ExecutorZileas: I dont understand why my formula is wrong
ExecutorZileas: i forgot the top minus sign
ExecutorZileas: one sec
ExecutorZileas: so its
ExecutorZileas: yeah (-5z + 1) / [(z-2)(z-1)]
ExecutorZileas: when you did the right hand -(z+1/z-2) we were only making the first term negative
ExecutorZileas: common error
Gm Onta G42: hmmmm
Gm Onta G42
: oh
Gm Onta G42
: ohhhhhhhhh
Gm Onta G42
: wow thanks
ExecutorZileas
: np
ExecutorZileas: who are you?
Gm Onta G42: oh... heh...
Gm Onta G42
: br.com regular
Gm Onta G42
: strifeshadow beta tester
Gm Onta G42
: uhh
ExecutorZileas
: whered this ZILIES HALP ME thing c0ome from
Gm Onta G42: www.newtdojo.org
Gm Onta G42: i believe
Gm Onta G42
: you posted like
Gm Onta G42
: "stop posting support questions in the forum"
Gm Onta G42
: on em.com forum
Gm Onta G42
: and bob replied and said "halp me zialases"
Gm Onta G42
: or something
ExecutorZileas
: ah
ExecutorZileas: wtf did he do to newtdojo
Gm Onta G42: ?
ExecutorZileas
: go to newtdojo.org
ExecutorZileas: it has a comment about zileas
ExecutorZileas: hehe
ExecutorZileas: oih wait
Gm Onta G42: ooh
Gm Onta G42
: the banner
ExecutorZileas
: thats a gamer nic ad
ExecutorZileas: ahaha
Gm Onta G42: heh heh heh
ExecutorZileas
: rofl an Ad with me in it
ExecutorZileas: ahahahahah
Gm Onta G42: wow you're famous
Gm Onta G42
: read bobs port
Gm Onta G42
: post
Gm Onta G42
: at the bottom of the page
Gm Onta G42
: 3rd from bottom
ExecutorZileas
: the banner rulez
Gm Onta G42: quite nice
Gm Onta G42
: so you're not at mit anymore?
ExecutorZileas
: all done
Gm Onta G42: what you doing now? making strifeshadow?
ExecutorZileas
: yeah
ExecutorZileas: and working at an investment software company
Gm Onta G42: ooh