Boo-hoo. Elitist goths hate me.

Mick Mercer's comments from my interview with him on cattiness and internet goths: It encourages the cowards to step forward and spew their pointless drivel, and many do. I found countless personal sites where people had taken down their own gallery because of the comments left in guestbooks. My answer to that would be don't have guestbooks. If people like your site an e-mail may follow, but vermin wouldn't go that much trouble if their comments were going to be visible anywhere. People think they're being clever leaving comments,then they tell their friends. You even see "bad sites" being highlighted in forums sometimes, and you just know some of the lower lifeforms will be heading over to add their names in the guestbook. I've slagged off the sites which set themselves up as arbiters of taste and supremacy.

I rarely get any hate mail..I've maybe gotten 3 things all the time that my site has been up in 3 years, and it's always been some lame comments to the effect of "you're ugly" or "you're not goth." Well, I have a new little friend apparently named Visceral who happened to stop by my page and got their corset in a knot about the whole idea of Goths who don't take everything seriously.

Visceral-Relating to, situated in, or affecting the viscera.
Viscera-The intestines.
= asshole.

So here's what's Visceral pooped out into my guestbook. Because I'm so tired of this kind of sentiment (and I'm not alone, trust me), and because I recently posted my mission statement, which apparently was not read by this guest, I'm putting this response along with my comments up as an example of what kind of assholes are out there lurking in our scene.

i despise this web site.

Why thank you! I've worked so hard just to make elitist assholes like you hate and pity me. :) YAY!

your gothstapo link was the most infantile and utterly retarded piece i have ever experienced on the internet.

-why? because it's an exaggeration based on the truth? Apparently you are offended in some way by gothstapo, which was based on the attitudes of a REAL clothing shop and all the very REAL snobby, image slaves who model the clothes and shop there... and how they turned the scene into something reminiscent of a high school popularity contest. The fact that you dislike it so much just emphasizes the fact that Gothstapo is based on something real...snooty, fashion whores who feel they have the right to look down on everyone else. Maybe you just need a hug.

and with your choice of humour and the mass inexperience of life in general that just seems to spew from your site i have come to the simple conclusion that you are nothing but a mall goth.

-uh-huh. so i haven't been around since 3000BC, which you obviously have. I can tell by the self righteous pretentiousness that spews from your comments. Yes...I'll admit they have a cot set up for me at Hot Topic, just behind the raver pants. I live on caffeine mints and wear cheap boots. Ooops, one of my plastic fangs just fell out. Lemme fix it.

actually i won't even give you the title of goth.

-darn. i'm over it.

you are an immature teenager filled with fake intensity and angst.

(did your tarot cards tell you that? spank them and try again) -oh garsh, you've seen right through me. I guess i'll go back to wearing khakis and listening to christina aguilera like i'm supposed to. Damn right that you set me straight. What was I thinking trying to be goth when obviously you're more goth than anyone on this planet, and it is your duty to tell the peons who they are so they stay in their place below you.

and i am damn sure this isn't the first time a elitist has ridiculed you.

-actually, YES. The first time since HIGH SCHOOL. The thing is,the rest of them know better than to come to my site and waste precious hours that they could spend staring at themselves in the mirror, belittling me. Oh, and I see you catagorize yourself as an elitist. How special. Do they give little merit badges for that if you sneer and exchange enough catty comments?

i believe you disapprove of goth girl and guys alike who care too much about fashion. well listen here child if you don't care for fashion or looking decent , then become a punk.

-I'm sorry MOM, but punks could kick your ass so hard that your eyeliner would make a smear five miles long.(psst..goth came from punk) Having a BFA in Fashion and going for a BA in costume, of course I enjoy fashion. But, image without substance is nothing. No one REALLY respects or cares about pretty people who are ugly on the inside. It's like putting moldy flowers in a ming vase. Eventually the shit on the inside comes out. Keep staring at yourself. You'll see it.

you seem fake enough to be one anyway.

-so, punks are fake? geez, someone's gonna be waiting in alley with a fistful of spikes to plant in your pretty face. So, I'm fake...hmmm. That's a new one. Last time I checked I was ME. The Me who wears what I want, says what I want, and does what I want without begging for approval from other people. Must be a new concept for you. Usually the fashion whores are best at artifice.

well i shall leave you and your manson and nin CDs. farewell silly, silly girl.

Oh yes, watch me chant manson lyrics and slit my wrists as i cry pitifully about how much of a waste I am because you hate me. boo-hoo. Yes, please leave. Behold as I wave to your ass with my boot.

Favorite band: it isn't manson so nothing u would know

-Check my band list asshole. Better yet, listen to my radio show.

Why oranges called oranges? you should wonder why you think yourself as extremly attractive or that you could have hair like robert smith.

-where in my page do I announce that I am extremely attractive? If you seriously think I want to have hair like Robert Smith, then you are sadly mistaken. The Fat BOB hair was a JOKE on Gothstapo...say it with me now J-O-K-E. hahaha. That's laughter, by the way. Scary isn't it?

I don't think of myself as extremely attractive, I'm just confident about who I am. I have plenty of friends who like and accept me for the person that I am, not what I wear to clubs or how many people I put down or what music I listen to. And, I have few enemies-if any- because I don't go out of my way to be assholes to people. Can you say the same for yourself? Do you have any real friends? (who actually like you)

You accuse me of being "an immature teenager", while employing the same tactics used by the popular high school crowd that used to make fun of people who were different, or not in their group. And look, here you are in one of the supposedly most tolerant subcultures made up primarily of people who were looked down on and shunned by normal society, bringing all that lame-ass mainstream highschool crap back with you. Nice to see you've grown up and learned something.

By signing my guestbook in an attempt to perhaps speak for other elitist goths and point out my flaws of "fake intensity and angst" you've merely proven the fact that you are no different that a jock who feels the need to pick on some little brainy guy because he needs to feel more important. Thusly, this only strengthens my stance on the lot of you who decide that no one can measure up to you and that you are the only real goths. Sit on your little spooky island and worship each other then. Or, better yet, join mainstream culture if you want to tout their values and behavior so much. The rest of us out here in reality are here to have fun...like the goth/industrial scene is supposed to be. We really could give a shit about your imaginary standards that no one but you can ever live up to. People like you are what make the scene stagnant and dull and make the real old schoolers sick enough of all the shit to leave, and newbies afraid to even join. You're spoiling our party. Go home.

I'm sure that now you feel like justice has been done..."smite those wannabees, unless they're in our clique they're all mansonites!!" You can't even pretend to undertstand what I'm really about, and like others of your kind, you're totally missing the point.Perhaps you hoped you'd make me cry. Well, I guess I'm not goth then after all, because I'm still smiling. You're far outnumbered.

For any other elitist goths who feel the need to spread the love, do it elsewhere. The Gothic Toybox will not stand for that kind of crap.

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