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TWO BEASTS
BOTH DERIVED FROM ROME
In the book of revelation, along with the first Beast coming out of the sea is
an eighth king of this empire who is given the same symbolism as the empires symbolism .
We are also told of another beast that comes in support of the first.
This beast is depicted as having horns like a lamb, but speaking as of the dragon ,this means having the look of christianity
yet speaking as of satan -the Red Dragon.
We know from scripture that satan is the dragon , we also know that christ is depicted as a Lamb , and in the book of revelation , Christ is specifically depicted as a Lamb with two horns.
From history we know that ROME was symbolised by this Red Dragon, this dragon being virtually the second major symbol of the Roman empire, (the first being the Eagle)
So the second beast is a supporter of the first but from a decepetive false christlike position .
In regards to the prince to come and the red dragon ,we know that the first beast is given his power throne and authority from This red dragon , from which this false christ/church -second beast gets his words and presumably also his teaching .
If we look at the text regarding the two beasts we can study each part in full.
THE BEAST KING
Revelation 13
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up
out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his
horns
ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Lets look at the first line,
I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea
The sea
Is here depicting the great sea by Isreal, this is the mediteranian sea.
St John sees a beast rise up out of the sea, in other words out of the meditarenian area.
When reading this we have to refer to the book of daniel, for he too mentions beasts and tells us they are symbolic of kingdoms/world empires.
We know that Daniel saw many beasts all with different beast or animal symbolism, the last beast he saw was a montage of all the other beasts animals symbolisms' and was far more terryifying than all the other and crushed the whole earth and teared it with ferocious teeth.
Most believe this was referring to ROME as an entity and /or TO/OF ROME in the future and of course in the past from its outset .
I believe that to be correct, and here in the book of revelation St John picks up where Daniel signed off so to speak.
In this first verse notice that St john is not calling the beast an individual person yet.
Then he goes on to describe this beast he sees coming out the mediteranian area as having having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his
horns =strength
ten crowns, and upon his heads =rulers -the name of blasphemy.
So now we see this beast depicts an entity or empire that has seven heads , this means seven heads of power(THIS COULD REFER TO THE PREVIOUS SEVEN KINGS),
In other words this beast structure evolved after the seven kings of the holy roman empire,
and at its very head came the ten kings who rise along with the BEAST ITSELF who is the eighth KING and the BEAST who when he comes comes to power with the ten kings depicted in this verse as the ten crowns that come after the seven heads of power- who were the seven kings of the holy roman empire
.
these seven heads had ten horns upon them or ten strengths that hold this structure together.
And we see why they can be called horns as in strengths, becuase each of the ten horns has a crown on their heads.
so we have ten crowns giving strength and premanence to these ten horns which are on the seven heads of power .
In other words ten kings are the given the very top position of this seven headed power structure.
crowns denote royalty and bestowed strength ( hence the horns symbolism ) to this seven headed beast empire .
Now we have a clue as to how God feels about this seven headed power structure which is ruled by ten kings (hence ten crowns )
The heads are said to be blasphemous or have names of blasphemy on them,
in other words their power and strength (the horns with crowns ) is a blasphemous thing, because of something to do with an affront to God himself.
These ten crowns denote ten kings who are on the heads of this last beast empire that started out in the medditeranian sea area.
From this we can deduce quite easily from both this scripture and others in both daniel in the book of revelation and from history, that st john is here describing the Roman Empire and its legacy.
He is not yet talking about an individual person but hes talking about a beast empire just as Daniel did.
Yet hes talking about kings (the crowns ) the power and strength givers over this empire that in the end are blaspemous in their names and power.
These are real human symbols, in other words they denote kings an ruling structures which would rise from THE LEGACY OF ROME.
Now many have said this denoted the Ceasers of Rome.
ifeel there is some truth in this in a symbolic sense though,
for we are concerned with events -future that have roots in the past,
so we can take the ceaser idea but have to progress in order to understand the now.
We have to go on from there and see what sprang from the legacy of the emperors.
When we do this we are pointed to the same area of rule around the great sea .
we know from history that indeed royalty was set up over this area,
the first royalty encompasing this area (the mediteranian in any real sense) after the Emperors of Rome was THE MEROVINGIAN DYNASTY .
This merovingain dynasty was the seed -
from which all royalty in europe took its design and a lot of its symbolism and structure ,
the symbolism of the Merovingian Dynasty in turn came from both Rome and even back to Ancient Babylon.
So here we see the progression of Rome in a sense, although the spiritual elements were indeed incorporated into the crowns and kingly role that came after the ceasers.
This is the period we can truly see the start of a blasphemous side to kingly rule .
As the blasphemy was directly against God himself rather than just the promotion of pagan religions of as did Rome and Babylon.
The merovingians themselves HAD BASED THEIR divine right of Kings /RIGHT TO RULE UPON A BLASPHEMY AGAINST CHRIST HIMSELF .
This is interesting to note seeing as the HOLY ROMAN Empire was very much wholly based on the merovingian dynasty model for kingly rule over europe (the mediteranian area we are concerned with ).
This Holy Roman Empire that emerged from the Merovingian Dynasty is a key part of the puzzle for the Prince charles theory because the holy roman Empire plays a massive part in the puzzle of the seven kings who proceed
The Eighth King (who is of /like the seven)
who is called ( actually named as )
The Beast King
(means of the beast kingdom/ will rule the beast empire and personally have same symbolism)
These seven kings and are seperate to the ten kings mentioned also by st john as being crowns on the heads of the sea beast.
because the seven kings come before the beast king .
But the ten kings come with the beast king
when he comes and recieves the title of king he recieves power along with ten other kings.
The seven kings by then are very past tense.
the ten crowns upon the head of the beast that comes out of the sea are the ten kings .
This is why the beast is both the kingdom and the king
In other words both the entity of Rome past present and future as an empire and at the same time an individual human personality with a real human title
infact both a prince of the roman people and a future king of the revived roman empire.
So then we see a structure
THE BEAST ITSELF MEANING THE ROMAN EMPIRE
THEN THE SEVEN HEADS COMING OUT OF THE BEAST
MEANING THE SEVEN KINGS OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE
THEN THE TEN HORNS WITH CROWNS ON THEM
MEANING THE TEN KINGS WHO ARISE OVER THE EEC
WITH AND AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BEAST KING
WHO IS THE EIGHTH KING
AND
ONE OF THE SEVEN KINGS OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE
THAT AROSE HALF WAY THROUGH THE BEASTS EVOLUTION
WHICH CULMININATES IN
A MODERN VERSION OF BOTH THE ROMAN EMPIRE AND THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE
BUT
WAS BASED UPON THE MEROVINGIAN DYNASTY
HENCE THE BLASPEMOUS NAMES ON THE HEAD OF THE KINGS
AND SO
LEADS
TO A FALSE AND BLASPHEMOUS KINGSHIP OVER A MODERN DAY ROMAN EMPIRE
WHICH MANIFESTS ITSELF AS THE E.E.C WITH A MONARCHY STRUCTURE OF TEN KINGS
WHO GIVE ALL THEIR POWER OVER TO
ONE KING
WHO IS KING OF ALL EUROPE
VIA THE STRUCTURE OF THE EEC
St John is also given a description of the same beast , but here a woman sits on it.
An angel explains to St John the meaning of the woman and the beast she sits on.
(note :this beast is the same one as the beast out of the sea )
REV:17:7
Then the angel said to me, "Why are you astounded? I will tell you the secret meaning of the woman and of the beast, with the seven heads and the 10 horns, that carries her.
8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up from the abyss and go to destruction.
This is talking about the beast kingdom the resurection of Rome or the ressurection of the holy roman empire.
THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE
AND ITS FUTURE DESTRUCTION
Those who live on the earth whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will be astounded when they see the beast that was, and is not, and will be present again.
This could refer to a lack of knowlegde about the nature of the united europe we see today and how much damage it will cause isreal and all the world, for it will be the seat of the antichrist king.
Those with no knowlegde of christ and are not saved will have no prior protection and will be decieved through the outcome of the present day EEC and will be astounded when a man claims to be the messaih and set himself up as king of isreal and peace bringer to jerusalem.
"Here is the mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated. They are also seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he comes, he must remain for a little while. The beast that was and is not, is himself the eighth, yet is of the seven and goes to destruction.
This part refers to the seven kings that link the holy roman empire kings in the charles theory to Prince charles .
Notice the seven heads are also called mountains and they are here said to be kings.
So we see the woman sitting on seven mountains , mountains denote something strong like rock , but we are told these mountains are
kings -royalty!!
So this woman sits on a very firm thing , Royalty .
european royalty it seems .
12 The 10 horns you saw are 10 kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they will receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. 13 These have one purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
The above is talking about the ten kings on the heads of the beast out of the sea we have been discussing
so we have the ten kings who recieve their kingdoms along with the beast king who is part of the seperate 7 kings in the other pragraph, which easily fits into the list of holy roman emperors all named charles.
charles would be the eighth king .
Also when this eighth king who is identified (unlike the others ) as THE BEAST KING
when he recieves his kingship another ten kings recieve kingship along with him.
This could refer to a joint kingship over europe with charles as the top king so to speak , For each country of Europe has had Kings, although now only the British Monarchy plays a real constitutional role ( that is more powerful than some think by the way)
The kings and Queens of other European countries are infact really in more of the position that the UK monarchy is thought to be in, but if this occurs and the E.E.C decides to revitalise the Monarchy structure over its government of the whole of the E.E.C Union, they may well give the Kings of Europe a more purposeful role along with Prince charles.
or it could possibly be saying (but i doubt this very much)
that ten politicians recieve power along with an elected president over Europe .
This idea circulates strongly among prophetic circles but KINGS AND CROWNS MEAN WHAT THEY SAY THEY MEAN.
In my study of scripture as a whole this point is driven home, kings denote royalty not just power or politicians and crowns denote kings not just governmental structures such as the EEC itself.
The E.E.C part is the revived Rome itself but it makes clear the beast (ROME REVIVED ) has KINGS AND CROWNS ruling it.
Of course politicians will be there in it as now , but it will be similar to the uk government structure like now and like Charles himself has proposed the E.E.C take on board.
It is important to realise the massive power the Queen of england actually has, Dont believe the story that they are only symbolic its very very far from the truth.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet
were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion:
and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great
authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his
deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast?
who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and
blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two
months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme
his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and
tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names
are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the
foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that
killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the
patience and the faith of the saints.
This part traces the rise of Rome which the beast kingdom and the fall of Rome and the resurection of Rome via the monarchies of europe the holy roman empire and eventually the EEC .
And the old symbols of rome giving power to the prince to come who is a Prince before he becomes a king , that is the red dragon giving the beast his power and throne and authority whilst a Prince but only using that full power
when he takes his Kingly role..
for the beast is also the prince to come of daniel nine.
yet isnt known as a king until the appointed time
and then the subsequent rise of the eighth beast king the antichrist king and how he eventually starts off on his platform of peace to the whole world as he did in his prince state by confirming the old testament covenent with the many ,this includes the jews and all religions which enables the peace and security to go forward and allow the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem .
Then he starts his reign of terror on earth against christians and Jews and all those who will not submit to his one world government and one world religious church, which will be seen as treason for the struggle to bring peace and security to jerusalem and the earth via the peace and security agreements and also the war on terrorism will be seen as achieved by a global political and multifaith relgious unity headed by this beast king of europe and encouraged by the second beast the false prophet , and anyone who defies it for the sake of Christ , he will persicute and kill.
REV:13:11
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he
had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
This denotes a false christ or church
two horns like a lamb- like christ
yet teaching and speaking with the words of a dragon
that is being of satanic origin ,The dragon being satan whose words are said to come out of the mouth of this second beast.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him,
and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the
first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
This i believe refers to the Roman catholic Church recieving all the power of rome,
the pope recieving the title of the ceasers pontius maximus
and the palace of the ceasers becoming the palace of the popes, in other words all the power of rome formally in the hands of the ceasers was transfered to the new ceaser and ruler of the free world, the pope in the vatican.
Who had kings fight wars for him and bow to him.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down
from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
The pope was the ruler of the kings of europe who had armies and went to war, in modern warfere fire can come down from heaven to earth , i think if Prince charles is crowned by a last pope , and if he becomes th Eighth King of The Revived Holy Roman empire , all armies will become part of that holy roman empire and by defintion so all the militairy cababilty of the EEC and the european armies of each member state will be defualt be submitted to both KING CHARLES AND THE POPE.
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of
those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
I believe this could refer to the power ROME itself allowed the vatican to have and so in the sight of the first beast which had its root in rome the false prophet church of roman catholcism was freely in the view or sight and with the blessing of the first beast able to decieve mankind by its brand of false christinaity and all the legend of false miracles and fables that on the most part were legend and useless to mankind in anycase.
saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an
image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that
the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as
would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free
and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their
foreheads:
This is probably refering to an actual incident to do with the beast king who possibly could be shot and seemingly dead but ressurected.
or it could refer to the roman catholic church resusitation of rome which was in decline but sprang forth as from the dead when the vatican took over the role and power of the ceasers even to the present day.
*For it has to be remembered that the first beast refers to both the kingdom of the beast (whos root was the roman empire ) and the beast king( a human personality)*
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the
number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
is Six hundred threescore and six.
although i placed the previous part in the past i think this could come future as indeed the previous is still present that is roman catholcism incorparated much of ancient Romes culture and paganism into european culture and brand of religious psuedo christanity and indeed still holds a form of romes power today, but i think this part refers to a monetary system of a mark not money based upon the king of europes symbolsim due to
the war on terror 's reshaping of global security and so the economy of the main player in this beast symbolism
the revived roman empire the E.E.C headed by the antichrist king
the Eighth king of the roman empire area., the EEC Will incorporate a monetary system that includes some of the beast symbolism or numurology ie. 666.
This will be explined as essential to peace and security being maintained and said to be instrumental in stopping the Islamic terrorist threat from the east, or indeed any terrorist threat.
I also believe that the false prophet aswell as being pictured here as the second beast like a structure as in the case of the first beast , that is both an empire of sorts and a human individual , will be an individual pope who will work along side the great monarch of Europe the beast king.
Note
Although there are certain things in this particular article that are obviously totally correct,
some of my thoughts herein are my thoughts ,yet while not discounting them entirely as conjecture, i would ask you to compare them with scripture and pray upon the ideas that i have gleaned through both scripture and i believe the Holy Spirits' guidance.
As with all the end time theories on what the symbolism within the book of revelation actually speak of, there are many parts and differeing views and possibiltites, but as i have studied these various proposals i have leant to see there are elements of the truth in nearly every
scripture based theory on these verses.
They all are part of the puzzle.
As Rome is an abvious central part to these particular prophecies it is most important we realise this is not just the ancient rome but rome cheifly from the time of the crucifixion / ressurection until 170- 133 ad and beyond, this incorprates what actually happened to rome and where its spirit was at work within the various empires that came out of its seeming collapse, in one way rome fell.
For its spirit was the RED DRAGON.
yet its spirit and influence worked on, both in secular empires that came out of its braking and religious entities that were in the end only mimicking christ /anti /instead in place of him, and really working in the wrolds/satans way,/ speaking with the mouth of the dragon istead of bringing the kingdom of God closer to man / decieving him and bearing the fruit of bloodshed false teaching and working to destroy gods work on earth and agreeing with the world powers and empires instead of guiding them into truth all truth as the spirit of truth does and leading them to the truth itself , jesus christ the son of God, they used relgious imagery and pomp to guide man into a bonadage based upon honour of man that bore the fruit of man worship and all kinds of heresies and bloodshed.
The British empire vaster than the roman was the last major world empire to tred upon Jerusalem ,before it came back to jewish rule. Not even in Jesus day did the jews have control of Jerusalem in the way they did after the end of the British mandate and onwards to the six day war of 1967.
When discussing the send beast it is very important to remember that ROME THE FIRST BEAST
Was supported by SECOND BEAST the religious entity that according to revelation 12 "he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, "
in other words when the first beast started to lose its power the second beast took over that power in the form of the pope, the new ceaser with the same title as the ceasers of rome PONTIOUS MAXIMAS.
And this is very important to note, the first beast continued in the form of KINGS OVER THIS AREA OF THE MEDITERANIAN the EEC AREA.
we can refer to the book of daniel to verify the significance of the legay that rome left upon europe for it graphically shown to be of significance in the great statue of a man whos legs a thought to depict the division of rome east and west, which has toes made in the same material as the legs ( which depicts the roman empire ) but mixed with clay, showing a weakening of this beast empire, in other words indeed it is the beast that was the beast that is not , but precisely because some residue of its legacy (the iron)was taken up and mixed into the clay of other future kingdoms and empires that came after the fall of ROME itself , so because of this very fact it can be the beast that is to come (future tense).
Also the second Beast , the beast that came out of the earth , the religious beast SPLIT from the most powerful empire ROME ever spawned THE BRITISH EMPIRE (note the british empire covered more area than even the Roman Empire did)
And if the EEC takes on the Britsh Monarchy via a new king charles the european union will have all the common wealth of the British Empire as part of its area of rule, IT WILL BE MASSIVE!
Prophecy students discount this at their peril, so please dont follow the pack and make this mistake for it is a very important part of the story of rome the final beast empire and how it is the beast that was in not and is to come.
And so the BRITISH EMPIRE WAS AND IS KEY for even though The British Empire does not now exist as it did, as with Rome its influence is very powerful and brings us to the king that will one day possibly rule the EEC and we find both the dragon that gives the beast his power throne and authority giving it to a prince who came thousand of years after the prophecies were given, and also we find the symbolism of the first beast clearly depicted on this princes personal hereldic
Crest.
Plus this Princes royal house split with what could very well be the second beast
the religious one. and so this princes royal house could have its own religious role,
founded upon the false christ second beast power.
ROME WAS THE FIRST BEAST
AND THE ROMAN CHURCH INSTITUTION AND ITS WORDS AND ACTIONS ARE THE SECOND BEAST WHO
he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him,
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TOOK BOTH THE TITEL AND THE POWER OF THE FALLEN ROME.
ALSO THE SECOND BEAST
AS WELL AS HAVING ALL THE POWER OF FIRST BEAST AT ITS DISPOSAL
doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down
from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of
those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;
THIS RELIGIOUS BEAST THAT LOOKS LIKE A LAMB BUT SPEAKS WITH THE MOUTH OF THE DRAGON
HAS ALL THE POWER THAT THE FIRST BEAST HAS, IT EVEN EXCERCICES ALL THAT POWER AND THEN MAKES EVEN MAKES FORE TO COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN IN THE SIGHT OF MAN.
WITH THE ROMAN EMPIRES OFFICIAL SANCTIONING
(which he had power to do in the sight of the beast)
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TOOK THE POWER AND TITLES OF ROMES CEASERS, IT ALSO THEN
RULES AS ROME HAD , AND ITS PONTIOUS MAXIMUS GAVE ORDERS TO THE KINGS OF THE EARTH TO GO SLAUGHTER IN CHRISTS NAME,
EVEN UP TO THIS PRESENT TIME IT INFLUENCES THE WORLD VIA THE WORLDS ZEIGHT GHIEST OF PEACE AND SECURITY, THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD IN THE END TIMES GATHERING AGAINST JERUSALEM TO SELL THE ISREALI PEOPLE AND DESTROY ISREAL, THE POPE SITS ON THE UNITED NATIONS AND ACTS AS A AMBASSADOR FOR THE PEACE AND SECURITY DEAL TO STEAL THE PROMISED LAND AND TO TRY TO UNDO THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRISTS PROMISE HE SWORE TO ABRAHAM AND ALL HIS DESCENDENTS .
YET IN THEIR UTTER IGNORANCE THEY CLAIM TO SPEAK FOR GOD.
FOR YEARS THE VATICAN EXCORCISED THE AUTHORITY OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE AND STILL DOES, IT HAD THE KINGS OF THE EARTH OBEYING IT AS THEY SENT OUT ARMIES TO SLAUGHTER AND CONQUER LANDS AND CONTINENTS EVEN AMERICA.
NOW THE WAR MACHINE IS ABLE TO SPEW FORTH FIRE FROM HEAVEN AND THE VATICAN SANCTIONS WAR AND PEACE AT THE SAME TIME DUE TO ITS JUST WAR DOCTRINES.
WHICH FLY IN THE FACE OF THE FULL REVELATION GIVEN BY JESUS CHRIST.
SO THE SECOND BEAST HAS GOT TO LOOK LIKE CHRIST YET SPEAK AS OF SATAN AND HAS TO BE CONNECTED TO ROME.
THE FIRST BEAST IS BOTH ROME AND A FUTURE KING OF A REVIVED ROME WHOM THIS SECOND BEAST WILL PROMOTE VIA A FALSE PROPHET IN THE FORM OF A POPE.
WHO WILL WORK TOGETHER WITH THIS BEAST KING
TO BRING A PEACE AND SECURITY TO JERUSALEM AND THE EARTH, BUT THEN THE BEAST AND HIS TEN KINGS SHALL UTTERLY DESTROY THE WHORE OF BABYL OF WITH FIRE
AND THE RED DRAGON WILL BE THE ONLY ONE
MAN WILL BE ALLOWED TO worship NOT JUST THE COLLECTION OF IDOLS BOTH THE POPE AND PRINCE CHARLES ARE ENCOROUGING THE WORLD TO WORSHIP AND LEARN FROM AS IF THEY WERE THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
COME QUICKLY LORD JESUS TO SAVE YOUR PEOPLE.
