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CJR
To: chaoskaos@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [chaoskaos] Servitors
Hello list, I'm back from never-never land. So we’re
talking about servitors, as well as other kinds of
thought-forms, and I’m asking what connections there
are between the person and the thought-form, and so
what if there are. What are the implications? I
think there are two major directions or implications a
magickal thought-form has on reality. The
thought-form or servitor acts externally to the mage
by acting on the world, and the other implication is
that the thought-form acts on the inner, on the mage’s
body/mind.
External effects:
I think many would agree that some servitors are left
alone or are banished by the mage to the ideosphere or
aether (enter your own ontological construct here ___)
perhaps never to be seen or heard of again. But where
do they go. Do they die? I think not. Ever ask
yourself this question, that if my servitor feeds off
“other” (outside) sources of energy, where do they go
to live when I’m not paying attention to them? Off
your energy, perhaps? Or your mama’s? Off some poor
shmuck over here, or that group of people over there?
Energy comes from somewhere, and it ain’t cool to just
create a mess and banish it when convenient. I define
‘creating a mess’ as a servitor or even some other
kinds of harmful thought-forms that have not been
reintegrated into the mage, or such as when they
become free from the mind of the mage, either by
neglect or will or death, etc and those forms then
take on a life of their own and go looking for ‘other’
similar sources of energy, or behavior on their own.
If the servitor is too maniacal or too much of a pain
for the mage to deal with and is left to the winds (is
banished into the ideosphere) that’s when others might
pay a price. - yeah yeah, not my creations you’re
saying, just the same, consider carefully where
they’ll take their energy from. Because now the
thought-form, and particularly a servitor, has become
a new and uniquely individual force in the universe.
Trivialize this or not, that newly created force has
effects on the universe whether those effects are
powerful or not. A definite effect(S) is produced on
the universe and on the mage, and those effects are
negative or positive depending on the mage’s input.
And if servitors can mutate, as ZW says, the effects
on external reality are even less predictable.
Obviously not all servitors and thought-forms are
harmful, that’s one of my points, it depends on their
function, their intention, their general direction
over time, what forces and energies will interact with
them, what their ‘character’ is, what their energy
sources are, and many other factors.
And be equally aware that some beings will be able to
tell what’s happening if it affects them or their
turf, and will fight back. I know I sure as fuck do.
(Or as Zen put it, combative ‘magick.’ At least
that’s how I interpret it.) The next turf struggle
is over our biosphere (if you can believe the
stupidity of that struggle), so if humans lose this
struggle, humans lose their lives. simple
Internal effects on the mage:
And there’s always the effect that the ‘burning’ of
the thought-form or servitor into ones body/mind has
on the person. Choose wisely, fellow psycho-psyches.
Crazily if you dare, but only if it doesn’t fuck with
others, or the planet we walk on. Magickal
thought-forms have a huge impact on ones mind
(body/mind) and have long-term effects, and not just
on ones memories, but on ones body/mind (see earlier
posts under ‘servitor’), so buyer beware.
It’s sort of like going on a psyche-dissecting two-day
mushroom trip. It’s not recommended that one eat
massive amounts of psyllicibn on some downtown street
corner and just ‘hope’ things work out. Much better
is to be out in the country somewhere, with a plan,
jackets, lots of water, food, safe from cops and
weirdos, you get the idea: prepared. It’s like
experimenting with Kundalini without knowledge, or
without the siddha effect guiding-- it’s never a good
idea to screw around with nuclear energy without an
experienced teacher, or you certainly might end up
doing something unintended. Ha
Magickal thought-forms require planning. Servitors to
my mind always seemed to cry out for special care,
even though any thought-form affects the universe as
well as the body/mind, such as sigils, mantras, etc.
I don’t know why, but I speculate it has something to
do with the fact that subconsciously, we humans (or
least I know I do) tend to recognize consciousness in
the eyes of ‘another’ (in this case, of the servitor).
Through the eyes a soul can be read.
If I tend to subconsciously recognize ‘someone else’
in the created servitor I start to impart wonder and
independent life and this is where problems can arise
because of the factor of independence. It may deviate
or start to do its own thing. A humanoid creation is
much more likely to be subconsciously thought to be
another separate individual than some glyph or sigil
etc. Perhaps even unconsciously, fears and hopes can
get focused by the mage’s body/mind into the servitor.
(not as much with a glyph or mantra) Now the servitor
has it’s own life, it truly is separated from the mage
because the mage has separated it from herself and
given it life, a life seen through a new pair of eyes.
And now it’s a force in the universe. It’d better be
well- thought out, chaos technique-created or not,
‘cuz it will affect things for better or worse.
Where do these external and internal implications
leave us?
We all know that there is no ‘ultimate of ultimate’
moral system to live by to help one to decide one way
or the other what the ‘good’ is, or what the best
course of action is. (cf. Wittgenstein’s ‘Lecture on
Ethics’). Sure there’s the rule of three, and the ‘do
unto others (or was that lovers?) as you want them to
do you’ (one I personally favor) and other general
guidelines (never drink cheap beer except when you
need to….arrrrgghh). But I’ve seemed to notice a law
of ‘what goes around, comes around, or put another
way, ‘if you shit in your living environs, you’re not
going to be smiling for long.’ Now obviously this is
no “moral” law, but I don’t think many will argue
against it. The point is that even in ‘ordinary
magick,’ even in ‘magic,’ and even in holding ordinary
thought-forms in normal waking consciousness, our
thought-forms endure beyond us in ways that sometimes
have unintended consequences. They affect us later in
life. They remain a part of our dreams, they are
certainly a part of us when we die, and they help to
shape who we are when we are in the physical body or
not. Thought-forms are part of our very makeup.
I don’t think it’s too much to say that the ending and
dissolution of thought-forms and servitors needs to
be planned ahead, how the thought-form will end, and
under what conditions. For example, if some kind of
wild-eyed servitor, or even if some entity is
conjured, there must be a plan for saying goodbye to
it.
And hopefully for all us other entities ‘out there,’
servitors are not just dumped back into the ideosphere
(wht the fuCk) but are reintegrated back into the self
(for maximum power gain for the mage) if at all
possible, if not they’re not destroyed or turned off.
I know buds ZW and Wraith and some others create some
bizarreness out there, but I think in general, most
goals can be accomplished by much less intrusive
means. Sigils, spells, tantra, name a technology,
most can do the job and be “consciousness-friendly.”
By “consciousness-friendly,” I mean thought-patterns
that are highly defined, non-humanoid creations that
target the desire specifically, do the job, then
disintegrate when done, or better, and assuming you’ve
chosen wisely, ie, you’ve chosen a truly positive
creation, then the pattern can be reabsorbed back into
the mage for additional strength.
By reabsorbing the positive thought-pattern or
servitor, powers are increased many times in the
body/mind of the mage because the energies of the
thought-form are reintegrated back into the mage’s
psyche and soul, but after first being transformed.
So one can see how critical it is to create a positive
thought-form if one is serious about increasing ones
power and health. (karma)
These days, because of all the incredible amounts of
crap that are already ‘out’ in the world right now,
IMHO the less bullshit we put into our individual and
collective consciousness, the better. That’s why I
stay away from servitors. To me, anything created with
eyes and a humanoid form is creepy. (I think of
servitors as having a humanoid shape and eyes, but
this may not always be the case) Man, I tell you, I
am crazy enough, without having to stare into the
sparkling eyes of some psychotic entity. Why would I
need to?
Not only could they affect someone else (you?) down
the road, but they’re basically a split off piece of
the psyche that, I think, represents a part of the
person that needs looking after (say, perhaps with a
tourniquet?). No offense to you who create servitors,
‘cuz this also applies to myself in other ways, but if
we’re desiring to create potentially independent
creatures in a more or less blind manner, without
specifying parameters, and we create blind
creatures/servitors without dismantling or
reintegrating them, we’re in for some shit. (What
goes around, comes around) And the converse is also
true, if I create some highly intelligent and aware
thought-form that is constantly looking to produce
something positive, I get that result. It’s the
unintended consequences that one must try to be
conscious of before choosing a Working.
A huge vortex of energy can be opened up, with or
without some entity like a servitor that I feel I’ve
got to keep an eye on. It’s my opinion that all
thought-forms should be reintegrated, or destroyed or
dismantled. I just don’t like the idea of creating a
servitor, then booting it out into the world, for
others to stumble across. It also leaves the
separated piece of the mage’s psyche in a split-off or
non-integrated condition. The mage is less powerful
if s/he’s leaving parts of her split-off soul ‘lying
around,’ like unfinished business.
I’ve had way too startling experiences with other
entities who are already here (Shiva and others) to
desire to create my own entities (with eyes). I visit
with Shiva and other gods and goddesses like I do
friends. But I can relate to most any other form of
Work aside from using servitors ‘cuz almost any desire
or purpose that I’d want can be handled with the other
technologies.
Thought-forms and servitors properly charged can do a
lot more than “think.” But again, to do what they do,
they ‘interlock’ with one’s mind; they get imprinted
onto one’s nervous system. That’s how they get built
in the first place, with super-charged or focused
concentration. So, like a tattoo, I hope you really
truly like what you’re getting (and that it doesn’t
mess with others) ‘cuz it does get burned into your
mind.
So when Wraith recommends laying out the parameters,
I’d recommend that people consider all possibilities
of external and internal effects mentioned above.
.Midgardr and others, you may want to check out the
archives under ‘servitor’ if you missed Wraith’s down
& dirty method for creating a servitor a little while
back. And forgive the appearance of being flippant,
but people may want to remind themselves that just
‘cuz the method is short and it leaves a lot up to the
mage, that doesn’t mean you have to act without using
your brain to the best of your abilities. This may be
the most important part of the Work.
JR just told me that s/he seconds the notion and
recommends adding a “sunset clause” into the
parameters-- so that once a task has been completed,
the servitor no longer exists.
It feels fucking unreal to be alive. (And this too
shall pass. Har)
-Shakt
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from: zenwerewolf
subject:re:servitors
Some excellent points here.
It is easy to simply assume that what a person does in a magical context for
hir own benefit does not spread out into the lives of others, but that is
simply not the case. I, for one, happen to have a fairly strong background
in "wiccan theory" as regards the karmic cycle, and, because of this, I tend
to focus on "good" servitors when I construct them. I don't expect everyone
out there to do so, and I think we can all agree that somebody at some point
has made themselves a sevitor devoted to lust.
lets use this as an example.
you want to get laid. you want to get laid a whole lot.
so you spawn off your lust into an entity to go out an hook you up.
whats the problem here?
first, spawing off your lust thereby reduces the desire for sex, but now you
got a spiritual entity trying to get you laid. so, when it does happen, you
don't enjoy it. in fact, you become a little antagonistic about it, and
your antagonism develops into destructive behavior. (sex w/out caring about
sex... talk about masturbation)
this is a prime example of creating a stupid servitor... you should have
stuck with a sigil, or a candle spell or something simple. instead, you've
just infiltrated the ideosphere with another useless and weak servitor, and
you've lost a bit of what makes you human.
as for what the servitor lives off of when it ain't feeding off you, or you
ain't feeding it, this is another area which should be addressed. I happen
to like hijacking commercialization, or media events, to use as servitors.
(movies make a good time-frame servitor energy force)
say you want to do something like challenge conservatism on your school
campus with a servitor. (this is an old example, new movies are coming out
all the time, use them) you link your servitor to the movie Rushmore, and
define it as feeding off the emotional energy generated by movie go-ers who
see this movie in the theatre. During the theatrical run, the servitor is
up and running, then, after the movie leaves the theatres, it comes back and
splices itself back into your psyche.
other mages (more astrologically inclined than myself) can link a servitor
to a specific planet, and, while that planet is up influincing us, the
servitor is online. This seems like a good, all round timeframe, especially
if the 'sphere' in which the servitor functions is connected to the 'sphere'
of influence the planet represents.
however, I have (and I'm proud of this fact) created a servitor who is
currently feeding off of sporting events and transmuting the energy into
free-floating literary energy. Hopefully this servitor will be around for a
long long time. (I really dislike sports, & I love books. what can I say?
I'm a poet) Notice, I don't actually target individuals, but rather, the
emotional energy given off by a large group of people.
As for mutation, servitors generally mutate into the most powerful and
potentially usefull form to fulfill their statement of intent, which is why
a clearly defined (try e-prime) statement is crucial. When this occurs,
sometimes you get lucky, and they don't go nutziod, but its better to be
clear in the begining, than to be surprised later on.
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From: CJR
To: chaoskaos@onelist.com Save Addresses
Subject: Re: [chaoskaos] Digest Number 190
The Whole of the Law is that there is No Whole of the
law.
It’s certainly not the case that the whole of the law
is “Do what thou will.” This over-simplified and
unquestioned truism misses the mark because it doesn’t
allow for such critical features of reality as the
importance of true chaos to enter into ones reality,
that
unknowable chaos that unexpectedly creates a superior
thought-pattern or work of art in the mind of the
mage. The chaos factor makes life interesting because
there is friction to the operation of our will: our
wills do not predict each and every thought, let alone
each and every aspect and detail of reality. If our
wills did so, I think the experience of the person
would soon enough turn into stark raving psychosis,
because there would never be any rest. Even just
closing ones eyes or dreaming would have horrible
consequences. Bottom line, if will was the only
component to life, we’d be fucked. Put another way,
it’s unlikely we’d be humans who live on earth. We’d
be something else.
So humans, qua humans, need to “not know” what’s
coming up at times, if only to experience “something
new.” One of the most unforgettable experiences of my
life was one of my many hundreds of experiences with
psyllicibin mushrooms. I was 19, frying heavily, and
opening my sliding glass door from my room to the
outside when I looked at the ground just before I
stepped outside. I was stunned. I saw all the leaves
and debris that was on the ground in perfectly
symmetrical snowflake patterns. Yet intellectually I
“knew” (or thought that I’d known) that the leaves and
stuff on the ground was really in a random and
scattered state across the asphalt. There was no way
anyone could will such beauty. So I decided to do a
little experiment. I took my right foot and scattered
the snowflake patterns in front of me, and amazingly
enough, the leaves scattered for a millisecond, then
instantly reformed into perfect snowflake patterns
again, only this time they were different patterns,
but equally beautiful and shocking. So I took my foot
and did it again, same result! And again. And again.
Each snowflake pattern was more or equally amazing
and beautiful than the previous pattern. This was/is
some sort of reality-organizing intelligence at work,
obviously separate from the will, to be so detailed
and alive. From this experience many desires came out
of the experience. So our desires can come to us in
strange and important ways, but not necessarily
through the will, rather, chaotically. And this is a
good.
Creativity requires will to carry out its desires.
But encountering ones desires requires chaos and
serendipity (Shakti) because desires precede the will.
And studying ones desires can change them (can change
ones opinion of them and their validity). Not only
does the desire affect internal and external reality
of the mage, the interaction between the desire and
reality affects the mage, and consequently affects her
future desires. (the self-referring feedback loop of
human desire and action)
I would argue that our greatest visions and thoughts
derive from spontaneity, not will. When I’m
improvising percussion, I can’t even wait for the will
to occur, so to speak—by the time I think the thought
and will it, it’s too late, the moment has already
passed. So I play in an alert state of mind that is
‘receptive’ or somehow open to whatever comes into the
mind (desires translated into musical form). Willing
certainly is one of the preeminent human qualities but
often it must be silenced for some period of time to
allow for a truly spectacular idea to occur.
-Shakt
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The best in Man is awe.
-Goethe
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zen werewolf"
To: S_H_I_F_T_@onelist.com
Re: [S_H_I_F_T_] Some clinical definitions
Regarding Thriomorphic work:
I've used (on rare occasions, usually when I happen to notice the book
laying about and I'm relatively bored with everything else) a book entitled
The Unknown Familiar by somebody for this work. Basically, the book is
geared towards wiccan style rituals (and, me being what I am, I don't do
rituals) but it has a tonne of info on how to visualize animal spirits, the
various abilities and traits of animal spirits, and other bits & pieces. I
myself have the ability to wolf-out in the astral (hence thee name) but I
can also go Tiger, or Hyena, coyote, squirrel, and, most recently, dragon.
I've been toying with the idea of creating fetishes (not like described in
this book, but like what fetishes are) relating to specific animal spirits,
which I could interchange based on the animal traits I wish to utilize
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From:
"Adrian Harris"
Date:
Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:09:31 +0100
Subject:
[eco-magic] Re: Project ideas #1
Hi,
Angel wrote;
> Another method would be to ask a workshop to close their eyes
> and imagine a green utopia, and then to think of an animal or other
> living thing that lives there, and to meditate on it's
interconnection,
> and codependence with other living things.
This is similar to techniquies used in the Council of All Beings
workshop
put together by John Seed and others. For those not familier with this,
it
is a day long (or longer) workshop as follows:
1) Each person meditates or 'journeys' to find an
animal/ecosystem/physical
feature to work with.
2) They spend time thinking about that being and meditating on it. Mask
making is an option.
3) All participants gather in 'Counci of All Beings' and speak as the
being
they have 'become'.
That is very sketchy, but you get the drift. It has other optional
elements. It on my list of 'really good things to get together
someday'!
Working this with really strong mask work (Gordon 'the toad' is
excellent at
this) and integrating a magical working would be very powerful.
I hav a copy of the Council of all Beings in the book 'Thinking Like a
Mountain' (paper only, (and my OCR is stuffed) but I can photocopy it).
I
expect it is on the web somewhere.
Love & Power,
Adrian 'Hecate' Harris.
'Educate, Empower and Subvert'
When delving into the archetypes of myth, the reoccurrence of similar personality types, as well as the similarities of plot lines indicate two things. Events seem to repeat themselves, and people have an intuitive sense of good and evil. Today we see the murders of gods and the stealing of magical talismans become metaphors for societal change, and understand myth as a structure within which social mores are presented. The death of Baldur, engineered by Loki, is equivalent to the death of innocence trhough the mechanics of cruelty. It is a lesson, a warning, a fable, and, due to its entertainment value, it has a built-in repetitive value.
The trickster, who re-appears time after time throughout the myths of various cultures, defines the role of fate and the ideal of change. Without this archetype, the world would remain in a stasis. There would be no great deed without a prodding, some geas, or an injunction of some sort. Rather, there would only be the static, non-changing, non-evolving reality of a million years of hunting and gathering. True, the techniques of hunting and gathering would be greatly streamlined and well defined given a millennium, but there would be nothing else.
Instead, because of war, we have increased our knowledge of peace, how to maintain peace, how to accomplish cross-cultural ambassadorial missions. Because of disease, we have developed medical techniques. Without these catastrophes, we would still be crouched in firelight, staring into the darkness beyond the cave, fearing the shadows. No scientific study would be where it is today without the heretical tricksters, who poked and prodded at the various assumptions and poked holes in theories, who created hoaxes and sparked debates over research methods, and who stole fire from the heavens and brought it to earth.
Before the dawn of time and history, we have legends of a great civilization and the archeological data of primitive tribes. What is the truth? Both.
The first men were a great civilization. They were the ones who decoded the stars, for they had no other lights to hold back the night. They knew the plant life and animal life better by the time they could walk than most civilized people know at age eighty. They could survive in barren deserts, Arctic wastes, and deep jungles better than an American today could survive in a temperate forest teeming with wildlife. Thus they were, in their own right, a great civilization.
The ancients knew that a tone corresponded with a color, and a vibration could retain remanence across great distances, and they learned this through the technique of patient observation, facts that we've proven today through application of arcane technologies. They interpreted their knowledge through a terminology born of religion, magic, and superstition, while today we interpret it in terms of science, politics, and psychology. Ironically, when we refer to the primitive cultures, we refer to a cultural existence more harmonious with nature and more artistic in symbolism than our own.
Masks of a shamanic ritual still hold the power to impress, to shock, to inspire that they had when they were first constructed. This is a technology of psychology in and of itself. The faces on Easter Island, the monoliths of Britain and the Netherlands, the sand paintings of Tibetan and Amerindian culture, the Cave of Dreamtime and the hieroglyph of Egypt, the caverns of South America and the calendars of the Mayans and the Hopi all speak of an artistic and architectural integrity of these primitive cultures. The levitation of objects with projected sound waves, observed in Tibet, can hardly be repeated by modern science except under very specialized conditions, and then only with millions of dollars worth of equipment. The discoveries of ancient clay urns which could generate electrical currents and the mummification techniques of ancient Egypt, the psilocybin cults in Europe, and the faerie lore of the Tuatha De Danaan in Ireland all speak of ritual and traditional knowledge that hide underneath the mythic landscape of humanity.
The ancients knew more than we do today in terms of what makes a human a human. The writings of ancient Greece are still studied today, as are the ancient Chinese philosophy texts, not for their historical relevancy, but for their modern applications. The I Ching, the Tarot, and the runes are evidence of the transcultural value of logograms and the knowledge and wisdom that can be transmitted through such systems. The Tarot itself, which may be older than any other divination system, (and may only date from the first industrial revolution in Europe, c. 1400 a.d.) contained a wealth of symbolism deciphered by the psychological studies of Carl Jung and the cabbalistic studies published by the Golden Dawn c. 1900 a.d.). Is it easy to maintain the notion that ours is a more advanced age in the face of these issues? Are we now at the pinnacle of knowledge, or are we losing touch more and more by our denial of worth in the legends and lore of the past?
It is important to note that encryption, the fastest growing scientific application of numeric principles on the internet, has been traced to the Elizabethan Mage, Dr. John Dee, and his alchemical counterparts. The magical texts of the day were encrypted, and elaborate systems of information encoding was developed by Dr. Dee. The existence of secret orders and fraternities, as far back as the Order of Assassins c. 1023 A.D. implies an existence of encryption and codes, which in turn implies the existence of individuals intelligent and enlightened enough to produce the idea of encryption.
Even further back in history, there is the creation of a written language, and the process of converting words and the images the words represented into a graphical symbolic structure. This implies an even greater level of intellectual sophistication, as well as the ability to teach the language to others. A language invented must be distributed to be of value, for a language which cannot be communicated is without value. The Egyptians found language and inscription of language of such great value that they deified the inventor of language.
So also did the Sumerians, the Mesopotamians, and the Norse. The Code of Hammurabi still exists today, for it was engraved in stone one letter at a time, it was a system of law that we can even now refer to, for it exists beyond mere mouth noises belched at each other by primitives. It exists as an artwork, an imprint of a governmental body upon a society. Does this imply that even at the dawn of history there were geniuses, intelligentsia of such magnitude as too rival Turing, Einstein, Hawking, and Tesla today? I say yes.
Genius does not mean modern, nor does it mean scientific. Genius is beyond and above society, it resides in a different sphere of the human experience, that arena of thought where everything if infinitely worthy of evaluation. Dr. John Dee spoke with spirits by his own admission, conjured lead into gold (one electron difference according to my copy of the periodic table of elements), and brought smoke into forms and faces that others could interact with. By todays paradigm, all of that is superstitious rubbish, if not outright heresy in the eyes of science and theology. Yet he also completed masterworks in the fields of linguistics and encryption.
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