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Hot Issues From Linn County Iowa
Friday, 28 August 2015
Truth To Power

 

 

I will have to admit I always did want to use that title.

 Some time back our Co Chair decided to educate us.

He made this statement

 

Some folks are confused regarding why the county central committee organizes following election of officers. The reason is simply, our LCRCC Constitution says we do so.
"The officers of this Central Committee shall be a chairman, co-chairman, secretary and Treasurer, and such other members as the County Central Committee in its by-laws may provide. The Central committee shall organize following each general election, but no later than the following April 1."

Can I also sugge...st that criticism is not an accomplishment. Criticism does not become an accomplishment when taken to another forum. Or another meeting. 

 

Now it is true that he took a passage from the Constitution and the ByLaws  

 

V. OFFICERS The officers of this Central Committee shall be a chairman, co-chairman, secretary and treasurer, and such other members as the County Central Committee in its by-laws may provide. The Central committee shall organize following each general election, but no later than the following April 1.  

 

V. OFFICERS The officers of the Central Committee shall consist of a Cahir, Co-Chair, Secretary and Treasurer whose terms shall be for a period of two (2) years and the same shall be elected immediately following each general election, but no later than the following April 1. The Central Committee shall elect either from its’ membership or otherwise a chair, co-chair, secretary, treasurer and other officers as it may determine. After notification of an election, any vacancies in said offices shall be filled by the County Central Committee. 

It seems that the organization required by April 1 following each general election?

Is the Election of OFFICERS. 

 Not the complete destruction of the structure of the Body.

If that were the case there would be language in the Constitution and Bylaws in the Sections pertaining to the Body saying so

There is not. 

But the did create a Faux Crisis.

We HAD to change everthing!  We did not have any time left there would be no other meetings before April Fools Day!!!! 

 They told the body that Robert's Rules of Order SAID that ALL motions etc made before an Officers Election were voided by that Election!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

The problems with that is that it is comepletely Untrue.

They know that.

They asked the Official Online Robet's Rules Disscusion Forum that same question and were told NO 

About 7 weeks before the Election. 

 

There WAS one small bit of information that was True.

In the Motion that they made the Night of the St Patrick's Day Massacre.

There is a Statement

 Discussion of motion. • Questions and discussion concerning the charters and previous committees. • The Chair explained that the Iowa Code, the Republican Party Constitution and Bylaws and the Linn County Republican Party Constitution and the Linn County Republican Party Bylaws require that the central committee re-organize by April 1st following each general election. All that survives are the Advisory Committee, the Executive Committee and the Central Committee. The Chair explained that David Chung, Paul Pelletier and Richard Bice had been contacted in regard to parliamentarian review. • A question was raised concerning the elections of Credentials Committee members at the 2014 Caucus. The Chair indicated she would followup and report. • Calls were made to a wide variety of members. • Motion by James Knox (CR04) "Call the Question". Motion Failed • Gary Ellis reported that there are signup sheets to allow people to volunteer for teams

 Now everyone ASSUMED that this portion

 The Chair explained that David Chung, Paul Pelletier and Richard Bice had been contacted in regard to parliamentarian review.

Meant that those 3 men supported the Chair and the Executive Committees Claim

Turns out in the Case of Daveid Chung

That was NOT True

I understand he not only told them that Robert's Rules of Order and our Documents not only did not support that claim

But that what they were planning was not a good idea.

We jump forward in time and ss late as the May Meeting the Chair was STILL making the Claim

That an Officers Election Voided all Motions make prior to it

When I member tried to enter into the record the portion of Robtert's Rules of Order the refutes this

Page 111 footnote at the bottom of the page

Which by the way is the SAME section that the Official Robert's Rules of Order gave them to explain why an Officers Election did NOT void all previous Motions and Decisions

The Chair Stated that the Exectutive Committee would take the subject under advisement and deliberate,.

That being the May meeting maybe we will be told what their deliberations determined in the September meeting? 

In a cute posting recently the Co-Chair in effect accused me of being Divisive. 

If speaking the Truth is Divisive?

I stand guitly as charged

Someone has to do it

And it makes a nice counterpoint to all the things we are told in Meetings that are NOT True. 


Posted by ky/kentuckydan at 12:56 AM CDT
Updated: Friday, 28 August 2015 7:13 AM CDT
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Friday, 28 August 2015 - 7:58 AM CDT

Name: "David Chung"
Home Page: http://www.hawkeyegop.com

I would like to clarify some things metioned in this post. I did not advise the Executive Committee that motions expire or are no longer in force upon election of new leadership ... my recollection is that I was not asked this question.

As for the Committees, I said that it was not clear to me that the Committees were automatically dissolved or re-formed after the election of new leadership. On the other hand, Article V of the LCRCC Constitution could be interpreted in that way.

I did suggest that those committees we (the LCRCC) believed to be essential should be made 'standing committees' and ensconced in the bylaws and that their charters, membership, etc. should be clearly stated.

In my opinion, the dissolution of committees, the creation of teams, and the appoinment of members and leaders by the executives with majority approval of the body was done properly (in accordance with RRONR and the LCRCC Constitution and Bylaws).

Friday, 28 August 2015 - 8:58 PM CDT

Name: ky/kentuckydan
Home Page: https://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan

Glad to see you here. David. Might I point out that despite you not recalling being asked that question the Executive Committee made the claim that you supported their position on Motions being voided by an Officer's Election

 

As for Article V of the Constitution? Doesn't it apply to Officers? I mean that IS the Title?

 

V. OFFICERS The officers of this Central Committee shall be a chairman, co-chairman, secretary and treasurer, and such other members as the County Central Committee in its by-laws may provide. The Central committee shall organize following each general election, but no later than the following April 1.

 

And yes in your words " the dissolution of committees, the creation of teams, and the appoinment of members and leaders by the executives with majority approval of the body was done properly (in accordance with RRONR and the LCRCC Constitution and Bylaws)."

 There is notjhing in RRONR and the LCRCC Constitution and Bylaws which prohibits the Leadership from Lying to the Body to get them to Rush to Judgement

They got a Legal Vote whether it was done Ethically or not IMO is another matter 

 

 

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