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Hot Issues From Linn County Iowa
Thursday, 18 February 2016
What It Doesn't Say


On the Linn County Republican Central Committee, there are times when we have trouble with what things say.

For instance, in the "New Member" handout, there was a document titled:

Roadmap to Victory 2016 

2015 - 2016 Plan for the Linn County Republican Central Committee 

Start Here: 

Organize > Caucus>> Conventions >>>Primary >>>>2016 Election Victory 

 

It was presented as a plan moved by the Executive Committee, and voted on and accepted by the Central Committee.

It is one of three versions I have seen so far.

The problem, however, is that none of them are the same.

The differences seem to occur in the section for the 

Membership & Meeting Setup Team.

In the first two versions, the team leader was listed in bold type.

Version 1 said:

Membership & Meeting Setup – Membership records, meeting setup, credentialing for voting (Justin Wasson, Mike Dupree, Deb Dupree)  

Version 2 read:

Membership & Meeting Setup – Membership records, meeting setup, credentialing for voting (Mike Dupree, Deb Dupree, Justin Wasson [uncommitted])  

Version 3 is the version that was inserted into the yellow folder containing the new member handouts.  It read:

Membership & Meeting Setup – Membership attendance records, meeting setup, credentialing for voting 

I suppose it does not make a lot of difference in Version 3 that they left off the names of the team members and Team Leader.

But if you are going to present something as an item of business that has been voted upon and passed,

Maybe you should not add and/or omit words. 

Because if you do, you run the risk of appearing to be corrupt in your intentions.

We can also see that between the time of the 1st version (the one that was actually voted upon, and passed) and the second, they have evidently "reconsidered" who they wished to be Team Leader.

This attempt to"reconsider" was rejected by the Central Committee, since the Committee had voted for Justin Wasson to be Team Leader. 

Then, they made the most interesting discovery.

They informed the Central Committee that in Robert's Rules of Order, it says:

It is the duty of the Secretary to keep a register or roll of the members.

So, by golly, it was, according to them, the SECRETARY who should be the Team Leader.

Notice how they discovered this only after their first attempt to displace Mr. Wasson failed.

This attempt by the Executives to usurp the authority of the Membership & Meeting Setup Team Leader was also soundly rejected by the Central Committee.

Now, we have a mostly NEW Central Committee.

And that might be why our Secretary kept making the claim that he is in charge of the membership records. 

Now, I could point out that the Secretary also keeps the record of the minutes of the general meeting, but does not run the meeting. 

This, however, is not necessary.

While our By Laws DO say,

IX. RULES OF ORDER Robert's Rules of Order Revised shall prevail unless modified by these by-laws;

Our by-laws, as it should happen, are also pretty specific about the duties of the Secretary.

3. The duties of the Secretary are to keep the minutes of the meetings and read them at the following meeting, unless waived. 

Do take note that in our By-Laws, the duties of the Secretary do NOT say:

3. The duties of the Secretary are to keep the minutes of the meetings and read them at the following meeting, unless waived. and any other duties mentioned in Robert's Rules of Order.

 So, despite the desires of our Secretary, Mr. Gary Ellis, and the rest of the Executives, the legitimate Team Leader remains the one elected by the Central Committee.

That Team Leader happens to be Mr. Justin Wasson.

To paraphrase the late Justice Scalia, the By-Laws

"Say what they say and don't say what they don't say." 

And never should the past be altered to reflect what one should wish it would say. 


Posted by ky/kentuckydan at 12:01 AM CST
Updated: Friday, 19 February 2016 1:00 AM CST
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Friday, 19 February 2016 - 6:58 AM CST

Name: "William Dahlsten "

"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. "Who controls the past," ran the Party slogan, "controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. "Reality control," they called it: in Newspeak, "doublethink." George Orwell, "1984"

Tuesday, 1 March 2016 - 10:48 PM CST

Name: "anonymous"

However,

The text of the Bylaws says in section VI that "The Executive Committee shall transact the routine business of the Central Committee ... ". Record keeping and membership registers are routine business conducted between meetings. 

and

since the body of the Bylaws does not mention "records" or "membership register" the statements that it is the duty of the Secretary to attend to these duties stands by reference from section IX, regardless of section V. Otherwise no one would be responsible except as organized by the Executive Committee.  

Reviewing the histroy and tradition of the Linn County Republican Central Committee by its minutes shows that the Secretary under previous administrations managed both records and membership. She in fact explained that to me when I took over.

At the same time, I have indicated that working together cooperatively is in the best interests of the body and is the prime objective, while some chose to simply posture and argue and refuse to work together.  

It is strange that disruption and debate seem more important here than getting the right things done. 

 

Thursday, 3 March 2016 - 10:13 AM CST

Name: "anonymous"

"Reviewing the histroy and tradition of the Linn County Republican Central Committee by its minutes shows that the Secretary under previous administrations managed both records and membership. She in fact explained that to me when I took over."

Who is, "She," in the above? 

Thursday, 3 March 2016 - 6:15 PM CST

Name: ky/kentuckydan
Home Page: https://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan

Anonymous or as we can see by the email the LCRCC Secretary stated

 

"Otherwise no one would be responsible except as organized by the Executive Committee. " 

 Not True may I point out to Mr Ellis  a portion of the 2015-2016 TEAMS (names in bold indicate team leader)  Voted on and Passed by the Body

 

Membership & Meeting Setup – Membership records, meeting setup, credentialing for voting (Mike Dupree, Deb Dupree, Justin Wasson uncommitted)

Noting ALSO that the original unedited version that was actually Voted on and Passed by the Body has Justin Wasson as the Team Leader and not  Mike Dupree

 

So much for his little rant "It is strange that disruption and debate seem more important here than getting the right things done. "

 

Yes Mr Ellis if you are going to present something as having been voted on and passed by the Body it might be helpful if you restricted yourself to whart was actually voted and passed without your helpful corrections

 

Some might consider that a matter of Trust 

Friday, 4 March 2016 - 10:21 AM CST

Name: "anonymous"

The Bylaws are NOT superceded by a simple vote of the Body on a motion.

Any Bylaws change requires written notice to all of the members to bring up a change and then must be approved at the next meeting.

As the body of the Bylaws does not mention either "records" or"membership" the words in Section 59 of Roberts Rules of Order stand as part of the Bylaws. That makes these functions the duty of the Secretary.

The motion made by the Executive Committee simply created a team to assist the Secretary with these tasks. The Team's role does not override the bylaws or give the team policy making authority. 

 

Saturday, 5 March 2016 - 10:13 PM CST

Name: ky/kentuckydan
Home Page: https://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan

Mr Ellis is quite correct  "The Bylaws are NOT superceded by a simple vote of the Body on a motion.  "

 But he is not correct that "As the body of the Bylaws does not mention either "records" or"membership" the words in Section 59 of Roberts Rules of Order stand as part of the Bylaws. That makes these functions the duty of the Secretary."

 Our By Laws state "IX. RULES OF 
Robert's Rules of Order Revised shall prevail unless modified by these by-laws."

The question is whether Mr Ellis's quotation is modified by the By Laws.

It is.  The By Laws are specific about the duties of the Secretary

"3. The duties of the Secretary are to keep the minutes of the meetings and read them at the following meeting, unless waived. " 

To paraphrase the late Justice Scalia

Our By Laws Say what they Say and don't Say what they don't Say

PS had the Executives in Truth wished to create a Team to merely "help" the Secretary and the Secretary have authority over the Team?

They should not have made someone else Team Leader in their original motion (the first unedited version)

 

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