Genealogy 8- Grey of Ruthyn & Wilton

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Grey of Ruthyn & Wilton

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1. Baron Grey of Wilton
2. Baron Grey of Ruthyn (Wales)
3. Grey of Barwell: Pedigree of Lady Jane Grey
4. Earl of Kent: Pedigree of Tacey Grey
5. Controversy regarding Thomasine of Somerset
6. Grey of Wilton & Ruthyn: Pedigree of William Guise

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Comparison of All Related Grey Trees

1. Baron Grey of Wilton

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I.
* Name: Henry De GREY
* Title: Baron Grey [prob. 3rd of Wilton]
* Birth: Wilton, Herefordshire, England
Marriage 1 Anne De ROCKLEY of Leicestershire, England
[Note: br. or son of John de GREY, Baron Grey of Wilton, b.1268,
both sons or gr-sons of Reynold de GREY of Wilton, b.ca.1240 -ed.]

II.
* Name: Reynold GREY
* Title: Baron Grey
* Birth: in Wilton, Herefordshire, England
* Death: in Shirland, Derbyshire
Father: Henry De GREY of Wilton,Herefordshire, England
Mother: Anne De ROCKLEY of Leicestwshire, England
Marriage 1 Maud De BOTETOURT b: 1315 in Wilton, Herefordshire
daur./John, b. 128-.
* Married: Wilton, Herefordshire

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* Name: Henry GREY
* Title: Baron Grey of Wilton
* Birth: 1340 Wilton, England
* Christening: (30-1370)
Father: Reynold GREY b: Wilton,Herefordshire,England
Mother: Maud De BOTETOURT b: 1315/Wilton
Marriage 1 Elizabeth TALBOT of Goodrich Cast,Hrfrd.,Eng.
Father: Gilbert TALBOT b: 1332 in Goodrich Castle
Mother: Petronella BUTLER_(BOTELER) b: Ormonde, Kerry, Ireland
[Eliz.Talbot d. Lincolnshire].

IV.
* Name: Richard of Wilton GREY
* Title: Baron Grey of Wilton
* Birth: 1393 in Wilton, England
* Christening: (3-1396)
* Burial: Bletchley, England
Father: Henry GREY b: 1340 in Wilton, England
Mother: Elizabeth TALBOT of Goodrich Cast, Hrfrd., Eng.
Marriage 1 Blanche VACHE b: of Wilton, Herefordshire
Father: Philip De La VACHE, Knight, b: JAN 137-
Mother: Elizabeth CLIFFORD b: MAY 137-
daur. of Lewis CLIFFORD, Knight, b.Sep 134-

V.
* Name: Reynold (Reginald) GREY
* Title: Baron Grey
* Birth: 1421 in Wilton, Herefordshire, England
* Christening: (21-1442)
* Death: in Bletcheley
* Burial: Bletchley, Buckinghamshire, England
Father: Richard Of Wilton GREY b: 1393 in Wilton, England
Mother: Blanche VACHE b: Wilton, Herefordshire
Marriage 1 Tacina TUDOR of England
Father: Owen TUDOR b: in Snowdon, Carnarvonshire, Wales
Mother: Catherine Valois Princess FRANCE b: in Hôtel De St Pol,Paris,,France, daur./CHARLES VI of FRANCE

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* Name: John GREY
* Title: [8th] BARON GREY OF WILTON
* Birth: in Wilton, Herefordshire, England
* Death: in St Margaret Chap, Hornby, England
Father: Reynold (Reginald) GREY b: 1421 in Wilton, Herefordshire
Mother: Tacina TUDOR of England
Marriage 1 Anne GREY b: Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Father: Edmund GREY b: Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
   EARL OF KENT
Mother: Catherine PERCY b: Leconfield, Yorkshire
   Father: Henry De PERCY of Alnwick, Northumberland
   Mother: Eleanor NEVILLE of Raby, Durham
    Countess of Nort, daur. of Ralph de NEVILLE
    and Joan de BEAUFORT of MAINE
* Married: 1468 in Ruthyn, Denbighshire, Wales

2. Baron Grey of Ruthyn

Contact: Henry Dale Pirtle <hdp@uswest.net>
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[ I.]
* Name: Reynold De GREY
* Title: Baron Grey [prob. 1st of Wilton -ed.]
* Birth: in Wilton, Herefordshire,England
Marriage 1 Maud De LONGCHAMP b: Wilton, Herefordshire
* Married: Herefordshire, England
Father of >>

[ II. ]
* Name: John De GREY
* Title: Baron Grey [prob. 2nd of Wilton -ed.]
* Birth: 1268 in Wilton, Herefordshire,England
* Christening: (40 1308)
Father: Reynold De GREY b: Wilton,Herefordshire,England
Mother: Maud De LONGCHAMP b: Wilton,Herefordshire
Marriage 1 Maud BASSETT b: Drayton,Staffordshire
* Married: Drayton,Staffordshire
Father of >>

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* Name: Roger De GREY
* Title: Baron Grey, [1st Lord Grey of Ruthyn- ed.]
* Birth: Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Father: John De GREY b: 1268 in Wilton, Herefordshire, England
Mother: Maud BASSETT of Drayton, Staffordshire (daur/ Ralph)
Marriage 1 Elizabeth HASTINGS b: Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
* Married: in Ruthin, Denbigh, Wales
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II.
* Name: Reynold de GREY
* Title: [2nd] Baron Grey [of Ruthyn]
* Birth: 1323 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Father: Roger De GREY b: Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Mother: Elizabeth HASTINGS b: Abergavenny, Monmouthshire
Marriage 1 Alianore "Eleanore" le STRANGE of Knockin, Shropshire
Children
1. Reynold de GREY b: 1362 in Of, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Sources: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1987/98)

III.
* Name: Reynold de GREY
* Birth: 1362 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
* Death: 18 OCT 1440
* Christening: (26-1388)
Father: Reynold de GREY
Mother: Alianore "Eleanore" le STRANGE
Marriage 1 Margaret de ROS b: c.1373, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
* Married:
Children
1. John GREY b: 1393
Title: SIR KNIGHT GARTER >> of whom presently,
by Constance de HOLAND (b.1387),
Edmund GREY**, EARL OF KENT, who m. Cath.PERCY
[of whom: VIII. Tacey Grey, mother of William GUISE]
Marriage 2 Joan ASTLEY b: ABT 1366 in Of, Astley, Warwickshire
* Married: BEF 7 FEB 1414/15, in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Children
1. Reynold GREY b: ABT 1401 in Barwell, Leicestershire
2. Elizabeth GREY b: ABT 1407 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
3. Edward GREY b: 1415 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
4. John GREY b: ABT 1417 in Barwell, Leicestershire, England
[of whom: VIII. Lady Jane GREY, Q. of England]
5. Robert GREY b: ABT 1419 in Envile, Staffordshire, England
6. Reynold GREY b: ABT 1421 in Envile, Straffordshire, England
7. Alianore de GREY b: ABT 1423, Charlecote, Warwickshire
Sources: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1987/88)

3. Grey of Barwell: Pedigree of Lady Jane Grey

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* Name: John GREY
* Birth: ABT 1417 in Barwell, Leicestershire, England

Father: Reynold de GREY b: 1362 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Mother: Joan ASTLEY b: ABT 1366 in Astley, Warwickshire, England
Marriage 1 Elizabeth WOODVILLE
* Married:
Children
1. Thomas GREY
Sources: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1987, June 1998)
Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA

V.
* Name: Thomas GREY
Father: John GREY b: ABT 1417 in Of, Barwell, Leicestershire, England
Mother: Elizabeth WOODVILLE
Marriage 1 Cecily BONIVILLE
* Married:
Children
1. Thomas GREY

VI.
* Name: Thomas GREY
Father: Thomas GREY
Mother: Cecily BONIVILLE
Marriage 1 Margaret WOOTON
* Married:
Children
1. Henry, Marquis of Dorset, Duke of Suffolk GREY b: 1517

VII.
* Name: Henry GREY
* Title: 3rd Marquis of DORSET, Duke of SUFFOLK
* Surname: Grey
* Sex: M
* Birth: 1517
* Death: 23 Feb 1554
Father: Thomas GREY
Mother: Margaret WOOTON
Marriage 1 (Lady) Frances BRANDON b: 1517
Children
1. (Lady) Jane GREY
2. (Lady) Catherine GREY b: 1540
Marriage 2 Adrian STOKES
3. Living GREY

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VIII.
* Name: Jane GREY , Lady 1
* Title: QUEEN OF ENGLAND (9 days)
* Birth: OCT 1537 in Bradgate, Leicester, England
* Death: 12 FEB 1554 in Tower Hill, England (Beheaded for treason) Ý
* Note:

LADY JANE GREY (1537-1554)
Queen of England for nine days, born in Bradgate Park, near Leicester, a great-grandaughter of King Henry VII and daughter of Henry Grey, Duke of Suffolk and 3rd Marquess of Dorset. When Lady Jane was 15 years old, England's powerful Lord Chamberlain, John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland, arranged a marriage for her with his son, Guilford Dudley. The Duke's purpose was to change, through Lady Jane, the royal succession upon the death of the ailing young king, Edward VI, so that he could continur to control the country throught her. Edward approved the marriage and secured witnesses to a deed declaring Lady Jane his successor. Upon the death of the king, on July 6, 1553, Lady Jane was proclaimed queen but Edward's half sister, Mary Tudor, contested the succession. Lady Jane was subsequently imprisoned in the Tower of London. She and her husband, Guilford Dudley were accused of treason and both were beheaded on February 12, 1554.
"Grey, Lady Jane", (R) Encarta (C) 1994 Funk & Wagnalls Corporation

Father: Henry GREY , 3rd Marquess Of Dorset b: 1517
Mother: Of Suffolk FRANCES b: 16 JUL 1517 in England
Marriage 1 Guilford DUDLEY b: ABT. 1527 in England
* Married: MAY 1553
Sources: 1. Title: FTW Vol.7 #0684

4. Earl of Kent: Pedigree of Tacey Grey

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IV.
* Name: John GREY
* Title: 4th Lord Grey of Ruthyn, SIR KNIGHT GARTER
* Birth: 1387/1393 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
* Death: 27 Aug 1439
Father: Reynold de GREY, b. 1362, 3rd Lord Grey of Ruthyn
Mother: Margaret de ROS b: c.1373, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Marriage 1 Constance DE HOLAND b. 1387, Pleshey Castle, co. Essex
* Married:
Children
1. Edmund GREY b: 1393
Title: (Lord Grey of Ruthyn) EARL OF KENT

Haviland Super-Family Tree
Updated: Tue Jun 4 11:47:18 2002

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Contact1: Christopher Haviland <genealogy@havilands.org>
Contact2: Ronald Boyd <ulster@tns.net>
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V.
* Name: Edmund GREY
* Title: (Lord Grey of Ruthin), EARL OF KENT
* Birth: 26 Oct 1416 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
* Death: 22 May 1490 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Father: Sir John GREY , KG., 4th Lord Grey of Ruthyn b: ca.1380 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Mother: Contance DE HOLAND b: c.1387 in Pleshey Castle, co. Essex
Marriage 1 Catherine DE PERCY b: 18 May 1423, Leconfield, Yorks.
* Married: BEF Jan 1458/59 in Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Children
1. Anne GREY b: ca. 1458 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
2. Elizabeth GREY b: ca.1461

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Contact1: Henry Dale Pirtle <see above>
Contact2: Christopher Haviland <genealogy@havilands.org>
Contact3: Ronald Boyd <ulster@tns.net> [conservative]
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VI.
* Name: Anne GREY
* Birth: ca.1458 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
* Death: UNKNOWN in Wilton, Herefordshire, England
Father: Edmund GREY b: 26 Oct 1416, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales
Mother: Catherine PERCY b: 18 May 1423 in Leconfield, Yorkshire
Marriage 1 John GREY of Wilton, Herefordshire, England
Title: [8th] BARON GREY OF WI[LTON]
Birth: Wilton,Herefordshire,England
[Burial]: in St Margaret Chap,Hornby,England
Father: Reynold (Reginald) GREY b: 1421 in Wilton, Herefordshire
Mother: Tacina TUDOR of England
Father: Owen TUDOR b: in Snowdon, Carnarvonshire,Wales
Mother: Catherine Valois Princess FRANCE b: in Hôtel De St Pol,Paris,France, daur./CHARLES VI of FRANCE
& of Isabelle of BAVARIA
* Married: 1468 in Ruthyn, Denbighshire, Wales
Children
1. Edmund GREY

VII.
* Name: Edmund GREY
Title: [9th] BARON GREY OF WI[LTON]
* Birth: Wilton, Herefordshire, England
* Christening: (30+ 3 Apr 1499)
Father: John GREY of Wilton, Herefordshire
Mother: Anne GREY of Ruthin,Denbighshire,Wales
Marriage 1 Florence HASTINGS b: Harrowdon, Northamptonshire
Children
1. Tacy GREY [also kn. as 'Thomasine' Grey]

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* Name: Tacy GREY

Father: Edmund GREY
Mother: Florence HASTINGS
Marriage 1 John Steel Gordon GUISE
Father: John GUISE
Mother: Anne BERKELEY
Children
1. William GUISE of Elmore

5. Thomasine of Somerset

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TTG13's Genealogy Family Tree
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* Name: John Grey
* Title: 8th Lord Grey of Ruthin
* Birth: 1445
* Death: 3 APR 1499
Father: Reynold Grey b: ABT. 1421
Mother: Thomasine of Somerset
   [natural dau. of John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset,
   or should this be Tacyn aka Tacina Tudor, see above].
Marriage 1 Anne Grey
Marriage 2 Thomasine of Somerset (??!!! - ed.)
   [i.e. his own mother- a minority of genealogists find
    1st link plausible, no evidence for the 2nd]
Children
1. Edmund Grey b: 1469

* Name: Edmund Grey
* Birth: 1469
* Death: 5 MAY 1511
Father: John Grey b: 1445
Mother: Thomasine of Somerset (! implausible, most disagree...)
Marriage 1 Florence Hastings
Children
1. Tacy Grey

6. Grey of Wilton & Ruthyn: Pedigree of William Guise

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VI.
* Name: Sir John Grey
[ Title: Baron Grey of Wilton ] [prob. 8th Baron fr. 1st Reynold de Grey].
* Death: 2 APR 1499
Father: Sir Reynold de Grey b: 1440
Mother: Tacyn [Beaufort, aka 'Thomasine', nat. dau. of Duke of Somerset;
or Tacyn Tudor, dau. of Owen Tudor & Catherine de Valois of France].
Marriage 1 Anne GREY [of Ruthyn]
Children
1. Edmund Grey b: ABT 1469
Marriage 2 Elizabeth VAUGHN

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Blake/Burroughs Family Tree [+Guise]
Updated: Tue Jun 11 17:11:14 2002 Contact: Richard Blake <rickblakenkri@cox.net>
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VII.
* Name: Edmond GREY
* ALIA: Lord Grey /de Ruthyne/
* Birth: 1469 in Wilton Castle, Herefordshire, England
* Death: 5 May 1511
Father: John GREY b: 1448 in Wilton, Herefordshire, England
Mother: Anne GREY b: 1440 in Ruthyn, Denbighshire, Wales
Marriage 1 Florence HASTINGS b: 1463 in Harrowdon, Northamptonshire, England
* Married: May 1485
Children
1. Thomasine (Tacy) DE GREY b: ABT 1496 in Wilton Castle, Herefordshire, England

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* Name: Thomasine (Tacy) DE GREY
* Birth: ca. 1496 in Wilton Castle, Herefordshire, England
* Death: 15 Nov 1558
* Burial: 15 Nov 1558 Elmor, co. Gloucester, ENG.
Father: Edmond GREY b: 1469 in Wilton Castle, Herefordshire, England
Mother: Florence HASTINGS b: 1463 in Harrowdon, Northamptonshire
Marriage 1 John Steel Gordon GUISE aka John DE GYSE b: c1485
Father: John GUISE
Mother: Anne BERKELEY
* Married: ca 1510
Children
1. William GUISE aka DE GYSE b: ca 1514
2. Anselme DE GYSE b: ca 1514

IX.
* Name: William DE GYSE
* Birth: c.1514
* Death: 7 Sep 1574
* Burial: Elmor, co. Gloucester, ENG.
Father: John DE GYSE b: c.1485
Mother: Thomasine (Tacy) DE GREY b: c.1496 in Wilton Castle, Herefordshire, England
Marriage 1 Mary ROTSY b: c.1519
Children
1. John GUISE b: ABT 1540 in Elmore, Gloucester and Brockworth, England

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* Name: John GUISE
* Sex: M
* Birth: ABT 1540 in Elmore, Gloucester and Brockworth, England
* Death: 24 Jan 1587/88
* Burial: 26 Jan 1587/88 Elmor, Gloucester, England
Father: William DE GYSE b: ca. 1514
Mother: Mary ROTSY b: ca. 1519
Marriage 1 Jane PAUNCEFORT [d.by 27 Jun 1587 Elmore]
* Married: 27 Jun 1564 in Elmore
Children
1. Elizabeth GUISE b: BEF 1 Aug 1576; m. Robert HAVILAND,
7 Jul 1604 in Kenn, Somersetshire, England;
2. John GUISE [d.s.p. ca.1614]
3. William GUISE , Sir m. Elizabeth KEN
4. Charles GUISE
5. [Elinor] GUISE d. AFT. 1614; m. [Christopher] PERRYE,
of whom was [XII.] Elizabeth PERRY who m. Richard NEWMAN
of Fifehead & Evercreech, of whom presently** >>