We just had our first match as teammates in Chicago...That was more fun than wrestling him. But, if any promoter wants the match, I'd be happy to do it anytime.
What is your greatist accomplishment?
CJ: The fact that I'm still around and making a living, and still feel good enough to play with my kids. I feel better now than I did several years ago. For people who wrote me off as a guy who'd be done soon...I guess I proved them wrong.
What are your views on WCW and WWF ?
I am watching more than I used to. I watched the Nitro and Raw, and I think it is better than it's been in a long time. Obviously there are some things that I don't like, but those groups aren't catering to guys like me. They have a diverse audience.
What is your greatest accomplishment in ECW?
CJ: The time I spoke about the Cane Dewey sign. I think if I retired today...I'd have to say that was the best and most emotional thing I've ever done. It was all true.
Cactus, telll us about your more serious injuries you have suffered in the ring. I hear there have been many
CJ - There was a chart in PWI listing all my injuries. I guess there isn't room to go into how many there have really been. The worst one from an athstetic standpoint was my ear because I'll look like a freak when it comes time to get a real job. But my knee and torn stomach muscle hurt a lot worse.
Cactus, will you ever become a face again?
CJ: I'm whatever you want me to be. Will I ever go out of my way to be cheered again...I don't know. It got to the point in ECW where I would become so damn mad at the audience that I was thinking about leaving. A lot. So, what I'm doing now is my way of saying...I'll stay but I'll do it my way.
Why did Ole Anderson dump you out of WCW?
CJ: I think you have your facts missed up. I left WCW on my own in 1990. I actually had a long talk with Ole before I gave my notice. Some people were mad at Ole for his low opinion of me...but if I had stayed even without Ole in charge, I would probably be out of wrestling now. Thanks Ole.
Will you ever sell out to Bischoff?
CJ: What do you mean sell out? I made a move with my heart when I left...and found out that your heart shouldn't get involved in your business decisions. People criticize Ric Flair for selling out. The only difference between Flair and the fans saying so is that Flair's price is a helluva lot higher.
What is the best match you have ever had?
CJ: Best match I've ever had...barbed wire match in Japan with Funk. It was my first tour there, and it was kind of a tone setter for credibility in IWA. Even though it was the only time I wrestled Funk until the recent show, people talked about it and kept interest in it.
How do you come up with your interviews? Do you just think about it and then do it, or do you have another system?
CJ: I usually just have a couple of thoughts. Then just go with it. Sometimes I don't have any thoughts, and those interviews probably aren't that good. People seem to like the ones I'm doing now...and if they are as good as people think they are, it's simply because I feel I have something to say.
Would you ever team with Raven to form a formidable force and go for the ECW tag titles?
CJ: I'd love to. Raven and I have hit it off since the day we met. He's never quite forgiven me for not inviting him to my son's first birthday party, so I feel like I owe him. Besides, I just had to get in on this Dreamer thing. He's such a hardcore brown noser.
How do you see the sport of wrestling in say,10 years from now?
CJ: I see it continuing the way it's happening now. You will have hardcore fans, the ones wanting violence. Despite what most people think...I don't think they are the same thing. With UFC a strong style wrestling, anybody that wants to see wrestling has a choice.
Cactus, how is your son and wife?
CJ: Don't you like my daughter? They are all doing very well, and are happy to be moving back to Atlanta.
What is your opinion on Stevie Richards?
CJ: I think Stevie is great. It's great to see the change in reaction to Stevie. The respect that people are gaining for him. To be honest, when I first saw where they were going with Stevie....I didn't think it would work. I guess that is about the most wrong I have ever been.
Will you ever be in another barbed wire match?
CJ: Probably several hundred. I'm doing 18 tours in IWA next year, and chances are probably decent that I'll see barbed wire again. I'll take barbed wire in my flesh than that Steve Williams suplex in my head any day.
Kick ass match in Chicago last weekend. How do you like working in front of a Lucha-oriented crowd, and do you plan on working for AAA/IWAS on a regular basis in the future??
CJ: I thought it was great. I have no problem with the different crowd. I have confidence that what I do will work anywhere. Even the challenge of throwing fans out of our dressing room, and dodging bottles was kind of fun.
What do you regret most about your career in pro wrestling?
CJ: The night in 1988 I was supposed to wrestle Bruiser Brody, but they changed the card...I got Atlas, and Brody got Johnny Valiant. He would probably have beaten the hell out of me, but at least I could have said I was in there.
Do you think you'll ever wind up in the WWF?
CJ: Yes, I'd like to. I grew up watching WWF and I think everybody in wrestling wants to at least see what it's like there. I've always said there was nothing wrong with being there. Some of the matches they have are as good as anything in the world. If done right, it would probably be a helluva run.
How is your ear?
CJ: Still MIA...if you see it, let me know.
Who do you think is the best champ right now? Hulk Hogan or Diesel?
CJ: Well, Hogan is the biggest draw in the history of the sport. My feelings for Diesel are a lot more personal because I've only met Hulk a couple of times. I think anyone who has ever known Diesel is happy for him, because he always wanted to improve...and made the dressing room a funnier place to be.
Why are you so up on WCW and Bischoff? They are the ones who almost ruined your career.
CJ: Do you have any idea how easy it is to be a WCW wrestler right now? I work 3 times more, am away from home at weeks at a time, and make less money than I used to. What's not to like. Believe it or not, Eric Bischoff is a friend of mine. A young wrestler is a fool if he doesn't consider WCW.
What is your opinion on the former ECW stars that have switched to the Big 2? Do you think this was a wise choice?
CJ: Sure it was wise. I've been lucky enough to have made good money the past several years. It's easy to be a standup guy when you have options. But, for guys who happen to be tremendous wrestlers...and don't have the options, you have to go where the money is. Just keep the quality the same.
How will you feel fighting Dreamer with Funk in his corner?
CJ: Probably great. Dreamer will be trying to have the best match of life. I'll be trying to have my worse. So, Dreamer says he is gonna drag the hardcore out of me...I think in the future he'll be thankful that I'm so bad. You have to work really hard to be as bad as I am.
Do you have any bad feelings towards Eric Bischoff?
CJ: Lot's of feelings. I think he has taken a bad rap from a lot of fans who overlook the positive. Some of his moves have been great business. It was his idea to end the non-stop traveling, and I have a hard time being mad at someone who gave me an extra year of free time to know my kids.
Loved your series of matches late last year in SMW (especially those where you worked with Candido). With the exception of payoffs (HAW HAW), how did you like working in the territory for the stretches you did??
CJ: SMW was great. Actually the payoff worked out fine, and I might be doing some shows around Christmas. Candido was great, and it was a nice break from the ECW fans.
What do you think of Dan Severn?
CJ: One of the nicest guys I've ever met. I'd love to wrestle him sometime and learn some of that bone breaking stuff. We have a deal...I teach him the death match style...he teaches me the UFC style.
Will you ever go to the WWF? Will you ever change your Cactus Jack gimmick, if Vince says so?
CJ: I'd change my name, but as far as changing my gimmick, I don't see any sense in it. If I was asked to, I'd have to decline simply because this is what I do and I don't see any value in trying to start over now.
HOW DOES IT FEEL to know tape traders around the world are just scurrying to pick up a copy of the camcorder footage of you jumping off the roof of your house?
CJ: I wish I had a piece of the action. I think I'm the only wrestler to get his foot in the door that way. But, it's a real kick to think that this little movie I made with my friends has reached such an audience. I really thought I was going to be Dude Love, instead of Cactus Jack.
In your opinion whose the best wrestler in the WWF?
CJ: Mabel
What do you think of the Dean Douglas gimmick in the WWF?
CJ: If the Dean likes it...then I like it. Shane got to a point where he no longer believed in ECW. WWF became a better option. Paul E's attitude is if you are not happy then do something about it. Shane left and is becoming a household name. I think the Dean is opening up and I like it.
What do you plan to do when your wrestling days are over?
CJ: I've been hearing since day one how I would never last with the style that I had. So, I have been saving money since day one. Wrestling has given me the option to have a lot more freedom with my choices. It's too bad I'm not qualified to do a damn thing. Hopefully, I won't have to.
Say there Cactus, what do you think of Alanis Morissette ??
CJ: I'd like to catch a movie with her.
I think you rule. Your interviews as of late have been nothing short of spectacular. My question is, is WCW where the big boys play?
CJ: Well it's where SOME of them play. As far as the interviews, if the shoe doesn't fit you probably don't need to wear it. I know I'm a lot happier since I started giving these interviews...Confession is good for the soul.
What do you like to do when you're not wrestling?
CJ: Heal up. Play with my kids and stay awake at night with all these ideas running through my head.
How many Broken Bones have you had?
CJ: Broken toe, wrist, thumb, nose (3 times), seven broken ribs. That's it for the bones. As Jimmy Snuka once said...'You can break a bone in there brudda...and I mean any part of a bone'
How does the ECW compare to the other leagues that you have wrestled in?
CJ: I'd say more fans who really love it and live for it. Just as many who don't care if we live or die, just as long as they get their money's worth. I'll never forget how low I felt in Florida after a barbed wire match with Sandman...we busted our asses and they threw beer at us. I can't forget it.
Cactus are you really crazy or just acting? you would win an oscar for your performance
CJ: Yes, I am just acting. I'll be starring in 'Man of LaMancha' at the Schubert. No, actually...I can't act. At least not very well. I'm just emphasizing emotions. Right now, those emotions are 90% real. Actually I just want to see if I can call you all SOB's and have you enjoy it. Apparently you do.
Cactus....do you have any other wrestlers that you watch in amazment everytime they wrestle?
CJ: A lot of them. Rey Misterio is in another world. So is SABU, but at his rate he won't be on that world long. Then again, that's what they said about me. I love a great technical match so the Malenko/Guerrero series were a thrill. But you shouldn't have to be the best in the world to get respect.
In your opinion, other than yourself, who is the best wrestler in the world right now?
CJ: OK, you brown noser! I'll answer your question. Actually, by some criteria I might be considered one of the best...by other criteria I'm not even close. As far as the US....I'm only going to list my top five...Chad Austin, Mabel, Mo, Chic Donavan, and Dr Feelgood (Herb Abram's Supershow)
What is your opinion of Feinstein?
CJ: He asked me if I wanted a tape list. When I said sure, he handed me something that I could have sworn was the New York Yellow Pages. Doesn't this guy have a life?
Do you think Maxx Payne/Man Mountain Rock will ever make his way to ECW??
CJ: I doubt it. He just lives so far away and I think he'd have to trim down a little to keep up, but anyone who saw our series with the Nasty Boys knows he can do it if he wants to. He is a good friend and a great guy.
Do you ever see yourself returning to WCW or joining the WWF or are you going to follow in Bruiser Brody's footsteps and stay indyand Japan?
CJ: Right now I think I'll take the Brody path. I like staying off national TV for quite awhile and it hasn't been long enough yet. At the same time, I'm able to be on a cutting edge show like ECW and tell the truth, have the worst matches in the history of the industry, and get paid for it.
Cactus, compare the Funks, the Briscoes, and Harley Race with (in my opinion) their 1990's equivalents Benoit, Guerrero, Michaels, and yourself (among others)...
CJ: Do you really think my name belongs there. Actually the biggest compliment I ever received was when Harley called me at 3 in the morning and told me I was the new Harly Race. I don't think he throws that compliment around to everybody. Sorry I don't have room to really answer the question in detail.
How did you become the best interview in the sport today?
CJ: Order a copy of my new book "How to become the best interview in the sport today;.....Actually, it is just a matter of finding yourself. I think one of the biggest shames in wrestling today is that young guys don't have a place to develop their interviews. They get a shot on national TV and it shows.
Who has the "right stuff" to be the next Cactus Jack?
CJ: I'm not really sure how to answer that, so I'll tell you one guy I'm really proud of. Diamond Dallas Page, simply because nobody actually believed he could do it...even I as one of his best friends made jokes and through hard work and determination he's really made a difference.
Would you ever enter the UFC or a similar "real" wrestling program?
CJ: I did enough of it in high school.
Is wrestling fake?
CJ: Are you a moron?
What was Abdullah the Butcher outside of the ring?
CJ: He was like a father figure to me. Actually, when I was a freshman in college, I had a picture of Abdullah on my wall and had everybody believing that he was my dad.
Do you plan to stay in ECW?
CJ: Yes, because I have a higher purpose. I believe it, even if you don't.
Do you ever come out of feuds with maliciousnesss towards the wreslter you have faced?
CJ: Sure. Maliciousness and respect...and generally over time a better friendship. In some ways, I think Terry Funk is the greatest guy in the world....but, you better believe I hate his guts...for his comments about me and my family. I'm sure he hates mine for the 'liver' comments.
Did you see that Avatar gimmick that Al Snow has? What did you think of it?
CJ: I've only seen it once. I'm sure Al will make it work. If anyone deserves to be successful, it's Al.
Did you ever have any role models growing up as a child. Did any wrestler ever influence you when you started your career?
CJ: I met Jimmy Snuka last year. I told him if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't even be in wrestling. As I broke into the sport the guys I looked up to were Funk, Brody, and Dynamite Kid.
Do you think it was a good idea for Lex Luger to go to the WCW ?
CJ: Luger has made a career out of making good decisions. To my knowledge, he has yet to see his first piece of barbed wire and he has a lot more money in the bank than I do.
Cactus, you seem to like Race, but yet, he nearly killed you with a 'taser'..what gives?
CJ: Time heals all wounds.
What is your real name ?
CJ: My name is Elmer J Fudd, and I own a mansion and a yacht. Actually, it's Michael Francis Foley...but I've always been called Mick. After Mickey Mantle.
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Dude Love: I'm trying to sell my house near Atlanta to anyone who wants Mankind's house talk to the chat host..and it's a good bargain too!
Question: Do you consider Steve Austin a friend and do you trust him after his actions toward Mankind?
Mankind: Well, I don't think Steve really values friendship. I think that is my new mission in life, to open up his heart a little bit. You could say put a little LOVE in his life.
Question: Will we soon see Cactus Jack?
Dude Love: Well, the way things are going, I just may end up wrestling three times a night. Then they will all be happy! For everyone who doesn't like Mankind, just wait an hour, because Cactus might wrestle next! :) LOL
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Question: How does it feel to finally get all the girls?
Dude Love: Well, we had to pay them! :)
Question: Was the dance thing you did during the tag match Monday inspired by the "Boogie Woogie Man" Jimmy Valiant?
Dude Love: I'm trying to block that dance out of my mind right now! I was the one kid in high school who never danced as you can see. So the logical thing for a guy that doesn't dance is to do it in front of 6 million people LOL
Question: Did you think Dude Love will hurt your "hardcore" image?
Dude Love: No, not at all. I don't think the truth is ever a bad thing, and if the fans can't accept that part of me is a complete nerd, then I really don't need them. I think even hard-core fans like to laugh a little bit now and then
Question: Will you wrestle only as Dude Love as a Tag Team partner of Austin?
Dude Love: I have no idea what is going to happen with Dude Love. I don't know if it is something we will let out of the bag once, or if that's who I am now. I just hope people have a little sympathy for me considering how bad the mask of Mankind's smelled by now
Question: Mankind, we have seen many problems backstage..ex Bret and Shawn. Do YOU have problems with other Superstars?
Mankind: No. Not only don't I have problems, but I'm kind of oblivious to the other problems that are going on. Maybe someone has a problem with me, but I don't know about it By the way folks..I feel really bad about missing my appearance on AOL a few weeks ago You have to remember I've been hit with a chair a few times to many so my thinking is sometimes an hour late :)
Question: Mankind..Do you worry about getting injured?
Mankind: I worry about it alot. It's a major concern for me, and I think over the years I have learned to pick my spots a little better. These days I don't think people watch me just to see me crash and burn, so I don't feel I am letting the fans down if I don't do it every night.
Question: Dude Love, did you ever think you would be a Tag Team Champion in the WWF?
Dude Love: Yes. I certainly thought that any belt was possible,. I just thought I wouldn't do it dancing with a pair of sunglasses on. I haven't worn a pair of sunglasses in over ten years, And then I'm suddenly in the ring with them on LOL
Question: I recently purchased a video of matches from Japan similar to the ones you were in. My question is, why a person put themselves through what would seem to be an enormous amount of pain by participating in those matches?
Dudekind: There's a certain challenge to it. And also at the time I had a family to support. And really if Funk wasn't over there I wouldn't have gone for it at all
Question: Mankind, Do you miss the other Federations you were in?
Mankind: No. I really don't miss Japan. WWF has given me the chance to go there each of the last two years though. WCW...I don't even consider missing at all. I would like to do a show in ECW arena though
Question: Mankind, How does your family like Dude Love???
Mankind: They all got a good laugh out of it Now I get to refer to them as my LOVE children I think there is alot of room to have fun as Dude Love. The Dude has renamed the Mandible Claw too!! It is now known as THE LOVE HANDLE!!
Question: Will the WWF quit making Mankind shirts? When will the Dude Love Shirts come out?
Dude Love: I hope they don't stop making them. But I think the Dude Love shirt is really nice. All the best selling wrestling shirts are ones that fans aren't afraid to wear to school or to work. Let's face it..now matter how good Shawn is, no teen age boy wants to suffer the consequences of wearing a picture of Shawn on his chest to school
Question: Will we see Mankind or Dude Love at SummerSlam? Or both?
Dude Love: I don't know. I really have no idea where this thing is going. You could see all three! Although if I am Dude Love, I would like to lay a good one on Chyna! We had a guest over the house about ten minutes ago, and he was looking through a wrestling magazine, and when he came to the picture of Chyna, my three year old daughter said "She beats up Daddy!" LOL
Question: Mankind, what do you think was your best match thus far in the WWF?
Mankind: I think my best match was against Shawn at Mind Games last year. The two most liked times I've had after matches in the WWF were after the match with Shawn and after winning the belt on RAW last week with Steve. When I saw Vince after the tag title match, I told him I'm not even gonna pretend to be happy about this moment. For some reason, that title meant more to me than the Steel City Crown.
Question: Mankind, Rumors have it your match at SummerSlam against Hunter will be in a Steel Cage. Is this True?
Mankind: Yes, I think from what I heard it will be.
Dude Love: Doesn't anyone want to live in Mankind's house?!?!?! It's a beautiful Victorian with a wrap around porch with plenty of privacy and quiet neighborhood for only $142,000!!
Question: Mankind, Do you have any regrets thus far in the WWF?
Mankind: I've had a few. But then again, too few to mention. The only real regret I have is in the Boiler Room Brawl, I should have beaten the undertaker up one length of the Boiler Room and gone out that exit instead of dragging him all the way back there
OnlineHost: Ok..that will do it..Thanks Mankind..err Dude Love for joining us tonight! Good Luck at SummerSlam!
Dude Love: May the PEACE of the DUDE be with you!! And anyone who has any good ideas for Dude Love, let me know, because I'm making this up as I go along!! :)
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Mick Foley aka Mankind/Dude Love/Cactus Jack was the special guest on the most recent addition of "Byte This" the WWF real audio program hosted by Kevin Kelly. Here is what he said:
"To clear up one thing... I don't want people to think that I wrestled the last five minutes with a big white booger in my nose... (it was a tooth). I don't know how it got there.... one big long one could be put back in. I had a concussion, and a couple of ribs were out of place, dislocated shoulder... apparently my jaw was dislocated but put back in while I was unconscious. The thing that's really bothering me now.... under my lip, there's a big hole there right now, I can put my tongue through, it could be a new type of French Kissing."
"The Thumbtacks? That's nothing! I was numb by then anyway..... the conversation I had with the Undertaker after the match was basically, "did I remember to use tacks?"
He said that he didn't realize Terry Funk was choke-slammed, and was puzzled when he came-to and saw Funk's sneakers in the ring. Comparing Hell in the Cell to other gimmick matches, he chose HITC as by far the worst kind in his experience, because it went beyond pain to sheer loss of self awareness.
"I kept trying to pull it together.. it was frustrating that I couldn't"... "That's the first time my wife shouted at me after a match... no sympathy from the wife"
His wife, Colette complained "It made me sick! I didn't think he was going to get up! I knew he was trying to get the Undertaker to.... I knew a little bit, but when I saw that cage start to give I knew something was going to happen... when the Undertaker choke slammed him, he started dropping... I thought it was the end! I was furious with Mick.... My kids see all the wild matches, Buried Alive, all the wild ones, in ECW, WWF, they're not phased anymore.... (but this time) they were hysterical. The kids were crying, my daughter was screaming and crying, I was cursing. I could see in his face that he wasn't there, he got up, but he was not home."
"What was so sick... after all the abuse, he comes out with a little sack of tacks.... and I thought, "I am married to this whacko?!?""
Kelly asked him about the prognosis for his return;
"I don't say (to doctors) "when can I wrestle again?"... I just say.... aah. I'll be there in Boston!" continued the beaten hardcore hero. "I'll defiantly be there. The thing about wrestling, you have to learn how to fake it, I have to pretend I feel good, to get in there,I have to pretend I'm healthy."
Foley finished on how he felt about the crowd's great reaction to the hardened heel after the match, when assorted fans were clearly audible, calling him "the best there is", "the greatest of all time" and chanting his name ("Foley") in a truly touching moment in respect for his sacrifice and passion.
"It was kind of touching. People chanting my name... I wasn't really coherent then, it was the next day when we watched the match in the catering room, where we eat lunch around tv tapings, the guys all clapped.... It made me feel pretty good!"
All Credit on the above article goes to wwf.com/Byte This and also Blake Norton and the Bagpipe Report.