Okay, so the POR isn't that far off. I just got reminded of how a group of us "back in the day" used to have discussion forums and discuss a whole lot of issues just like in the POR. neat, we were geeky intellectuals even back in the day, so since it was alright then it's alright now. Haha, yes, after this weekend I can revert to that kind of logic and call it good enough.