The Earls of Dysart
Written and Researched by Margaret Odrowaz-Sypniewska, B.F.A.
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Tollemache(later Talmash) was the earliest of this line, records go back to the reign of Edward I. Another Talmash was Sir Hugh de Talmash/Talmache, who owned the manor of Bentley in Suffolk, England. Armories listed other spellings as Tollemache and Tolmach.
Generation One
Sir Lionel Talmash, of Bentley, married Ann, daughter of the family of Helmingham, of Helmingham-Hall Suffolk, England.
Generation Two
John Talmash married Ann Louth, daughter of Roger Louth of Santry, in the county of Huntingdon, by whom he had five sons and four daughters.
Generation Three
Lionel Talmash was sheriff in the counties of Norfolk and Suffolk, in the 4th and 8th year of the reign of Henry VIII. Lionel married Edith of Joice, of Creeks Hall, Suffolk, England. He died in 1553.
Generation Four
Sir Lionel Talmash (d. 1592) was knighted by Elizabeth I and married Dorothy Wentworth, the daughter of
Generation Five
Sir Lionel Talmash was the sheriff of Norfork and Suffolk. He married Susanna Jermyn, daughter of Sir Ambrose Jermyn, of Rushbrook, in Suffolk, England.
Sir John Jermyn of Suffolk's arms: bore, argent, a lyon rampant gardent gules.
Jermyn of Rushbrook arms: A talbot passant argent ducally gorged or.
Generation Six
Sir Lionel Talmash was made "baronet" in 1611. He married Katharine, daughter of Henry, Lord Cromwell of Ockham and Lady Mary Powlet, daughter of the Marquis of Winchester.
Generation Seven
Sir Lionel Talmash, second baronet, was a burgess in parliament for the town of Oxford, in Suffolk, England. Sir Lionel married Elizabeth Stanhope, daughter of John Lord Stanhope of Harrington in Northamptonshire, England.
Generation Eight
Sir Lionel Talmash, 3rd baronet, of Hemlingham Hall, Suffolk, (had seven sisters). He married Elizabeth Murray, in 1648. Elizabeth was the daughter of William Murray, 1st earl of Dysart, a cadet of the house of Tullibardin procuring their letters of patent from Charles II, in this third year of reign. William Murray was Secretary of State for Scotland, and he died in 1655. Elizabeth (nee Murray), became Countess of Dysart in 1670 and died in 1697. Elizabeth's mother was Catherine Bruce, daughter of Col. Norman Bruce. Sir Lionel died in 1669. Sir They had eleven children, five of which survived into adulthood. Elizabeth married (in 1692) (2) John Maitland (d. 1682), Duke of Lauderdale.
I. Sir David Murray of Tullibardine
II. Patrick Murray (d. 1476) was the Deputy Sheriff of Perthshire in 1465. Patrick married Katherine Balfour of Montquehanie, daughter of Michael Balfour.
III. Anthony Murray of Dollerie, Raith, and Christian Maxton. Their son Alexander married Elizabeth Oliphant.
IV. Patrick Murray (d. 1590) and Elizabeth Murray, duaghter of David Murray od Carsehead.
V. William Murray (1560/70-1616), minister and patron of Dysart, Fifeshire, Scotland. William married Margaret Murray, daughter of David Murray of Lochmiln.
VI. William Murray (d. 1655), 1st Earl of Dysart. William married Catherine Bruce.
Generation Nine
1. Sir Lionel Talmarsh/Tollemache (1649-1727), 3rd earl of Dysart, was a general in the reign of William III
2. Capt. William Talmash died May 25, 1691 in the West Indies. He killed William Carnegie in a duel in 1681.
3. Lady Elizabeth Talmash married Archibald Campbell (d. September 25, 1703) , the first duke of Argyll in June 23, 1701.
4. Lady Katherine Talmash married (1) James Steward, Lord Down, son of the earl of Murray. Their sons were: John Marquis if Lorn and Archibald earl of Ila.(2) John, 19th earl of Sutherland.
5. Lt. Gen. Thomas Tollemache 4th baronet and earl of Dysart. Thomas was born on October 10, 1680 and died June 1694, in an attack on Brest Harboiur in Brittany.
His military career was as follows:
In January 16, 1678 he was captain of the Coldstream regiment of guards.
After many military campaigns he died June 12, 1694 at Plymouth. He was buried June 30, 1694, in the family vault at Helmingham. He was unmarried.
Generation Ten
Sir Lionel Talmash(son of Lionel) inherited Mottram manors and Tintwistle manor and the title "Lordship of Longdendale." He was the first earl and Knight of the Shire in 1689; and parliament of Suffolk County, lord lieutenant during the first year of Queen Anne and vice-admiral for Suffolk. He was offered a baron's patent-first created by Queen Anne, which he denied, then he was elected to Parliament for Suffolk County. Talmash is of the Peerage of North Britain with the titles Lord Hungtingtower and earl of Dysart. He married Grace Wilbraham, daughter of Sir Thomas Wilbraham of Woodkey Manor, in the county of Chester, Bart. Sir Thomas Wilbraham married Elizabeth Mitton. The Wilbraham family was given the title of Lords of Longdendale in 1554, by Queen Mary I. The Wilbahams owned large portions of land in the 16th and 17th century Cheshire. Their seat was Woodhey. They were made knights, by 1610, and baronets in 1621.
Generation Eleven
Lionel Talmash, lord Huntingtower. He had four daughters, and one son:
1. Lady Mary Talmash was unmarried
2. Lady Grace Talmash was unmarried
3. Lady Elizabeth Talmash married Sir Robert Cotton of Cumbernere Chester County, Bart.
4. Lady Catherine married John Bridges, marquise of Carnarvon, heir apparent of James, duke of Chandos (d. 1754).
5. Lionel lord Huntingtower, who died before his father in 1712, and left one son who became the next heir.
Generation Twelve
Lionel Talmash, 4th earl of Dysart (1707-1770), and 2nd earl of Longendale, was born June 1707, and upon his grandfather's death, in 1726, became earl of Dysart, and Knight of the Thistle. He made repairs to Ham House Manor in the 1740's. In 1713, he married Lady Grace Carteret (1713-1755), eldest daughter of John, 1st earl Granville and Frances Worsley, in 1729. John Carteret Granville (1690-1763) was Ambarrador to Sweden (1719-1720). and Secretary of State (1721-1724).
Lionel's Children Were:
1. Lady Grace Talmash, was born in 1734, and died July 23, 1755.
2. daughter Talmash born in 1732 and died in 1744 (age 12).
3. Lady Harriet Talmash died in 1733.
4. Louisa Talmash, Countess of Dysart, was born on July 2, 1745. Louisa married John Manners, the illegitimate son of Lord William Manners, son of the 2nd Duke of Rutland and Corbetta Smyth. Louisa dies Septemner 22, 1840.
5. Lord Huntingtower, 5th earl of Dysart, was born in 1734. married October 3, 1760 to the daughter of Sir Edward Walpole.
6. son born in 1739
7. son born in 1740
8. son born in 1743
9. son born in 1750
10. son born in 1751
8. son
Dysart was named after the desert used as a retreat by St. Serf, a Dominican. St Serf's cave is now owned by the Carmelite nuns in Dysart, Fifeshire, Scotland.
Dysart is a parish containing a royal burgh (received in 1587) of Dysart, the post-towns of Pathhead and Galiatown, and the villages of Sinclairtown (home of the Malcolms) and Boreland, on the south east of Fifeshire. It is bounded by the firth of Forth, and the parishes of Kirkcaldy (to which it was incorporated in 1930), Auchterferran, Kingglassie, Markinch, and Wemyss. Its length southward is 4 miles; and it breadth varies from 1 1/2 to 3 miles. The coast extends between 2 and 3 miles, and is bold and rocky. A part of it is called Red Rocks, nearly a mile east of the burgh, bears marks of some dreadful convulsions, and is associated with the burning of witches, but displays a striking features of natural scenery. About 400 acres are under wood; and all the rest of the parish is arable. The principal landowners are the Earl of Rossyln, the Earl of Rothes Oswald at Dunnikier, and Fergus of Strathmore. West of the burgh are the lands of Ravenscraig, belonging to the Earls of Rosslyn. Here, on a lofty rock which overlooks the sea-shore, are the ruins of Ravenscraig Castle. This castle was granted by James III. in 1470, although it stood before this time. The castle was granted to William, the third Earl of Orkney, in return for his resignation of that earldom to the Crown. The castle afterwards became the residence of the descendants of the 3rd son of the Lord Sinclair. The northern portion of the parish is Strathore, the property of John Fergus, Esquire, which in ancient times belonged to the Hepburns and the Waugton. In the north -east extremity is Skeddoway, which was the property of the Alexander family, and now belongs to John Fergus, Esquire. Dysart House, the residence of the Earl of Rossyln, is situated above sea-level to the west of the burgh. It is a plain but neat mansion with a beautiful view of the firth.
In the 18th century, Dysart was noted for its manufacture of linen and nails. It was a port that traded with the Netherlands. It also was an important coal mining and salt panning center.
Source:
The Greening Peerage of Scotland Bowie, Maryland: Heritage Books,1955 (reprint).
Stephen, Sir Leslie and Sir Sidney (editors). The Dictionary of National Biography. London: Oxford University Press, 1963-1964 edition.
Wilson, Rev. John Marius (editor). The Imperial Gazetteer of Scotland. London: A Fullarton & Co., 148-150.
This page was last updated on March 2, 2005
The Murray Family Tree:
On February 17, 1678, Thomas was Lt. Col. in Lord Arlinton's regiment of foot, which was sent to Flanders. This group was disbanded in April 1679.
On May 3, 1679, Thomas was made Captain of the Coldstream guards.
In June 1680, his company went to Tangiers.
On June 13, 1682, he had a duel with Capt. John(?) Parker.
June 21, 1682, (as a result of his duel) his commission with Coldsteam was given to another officer.
June 11, 1685, James II made Thomas Lt. Col. of the regiment (now the Northumberland fusilers).
March 1688, King James asked him to leave the Dutch service, but he declined. William.
December 1688, the Prince of Orange then made him governor of Portsmouth.
May 1, 1689 he was Col. of the Coldstream Guards.
June 1691, he went to Ireland and served with Godert de Ginkel.
January 30, 1689, he was on the English House of Commons M.P> for Malmesbury.
1692 - he was governor of Dixmude
March 1693, he as goevernor of the Isle of Wight.
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