The
Coastersī Off-Shots - by Claus Röhnisch
Thanks to Stefan Pingel-Wriedt, Charles
Sheen, Todd Baptista, Joy Stewart-Evans, Bob McGrath, and Matthew Broyles.
The recordings by The
Coastersī ex-members
Note: Members of the
non-original Coastersī groups may not all agree with the editorīs "fake
Coasters" labeling.
Contrary to common belief, the Coasters did not sing behind Little Richard on the film track of "The Girl Canīt Help It" (neither did the Robins), and not behind any Elvis recordings. There is, though, a possibility that the Coasters sang behind LaVern Baker on her March, 1957 Los Angeles recording of "Jim Dandy Got Married". There is also some evidence stating the Coasters backed Bobby Hendricks on "Itchy Twitchy Feeling" in mid 1958, and that it was the Coasters backing Hendricks on the Drifters' recording of "Drip Drop" in April, 1958.
Bobby Nunn, Leon Hughes, Cornell Gunter, Billy Guy, Will Jones, Billy Richards Jr, and Grady Chapman have all in one way or another launched non-original Coasters groups (and so have others who have no direct connection to the originals).
THE COASTERS featuring
Cornell Gunther
(Cornell Gunter, lead vcl; and Bobby
Seeger /Stregar/, Nat "Buster" Wilson and Lloyd
Wolf, vocals). Unknown accomp. incl. horns and rhythm. Bootleg recordings by Ron
Bartolucci / Little Walter De Venne.
Paulīs Maul, Boston, Mass., 1970
8:46 Intro & Medley: Itīs Your Thing/Knock On
Wood/Funky Broadway/Land Of 1.000 Dances/Yakety Yak New Rose CD
5110, FanClub (F) CD 110
6:40 Medley: Searchinī/I Canīt Help
Myself/Get Ready as above
3:05 Shoppinī For Clothes as above
3:25 Charlie Brown as above
3:32 Medley: Whatīd I Say/Long Tall
Sally/Jenny Jenny/Lucille/Tutti Frutti as above
Note: The group is presented as
"Cornell Gunter and the Coasters" by the MC. CD live album issued in 1992,
titled "The Coasters featuring Cornell Gunther", and recorded in 1970 (although
the CD wrongly credits 1969). Also includes four titles by Carl Gardnerīs Coasters (see
"Session Discography"). Observe the common misspelling of Gunterīs surname.
THE COASTERS TWO
PLUS TWO
(Grady Chapman, Leon Hughes,
Bobby Nunn, and Jerome Evans, vcls); unknown
accomp."Bumps" Blackwell, arr/prod.
Los Angeles, Calif., 1975
Searchinī 75 Chelan 2000
Young Blood Chelan 2000
Note: Chelan was owned by Bumps
Blackwell (and thanks Joy for the information!).
BILLY GUY &
THE COASTERS
(featuring Billy Guy). Billy
Guy, solo vcl (on SalWa) and prod. Unknown accomp.
Hollywood, 1975 (prob two diff. sessions)
2:27 You Move Me SalWa
1001
1:57 Take It Easy Greazy SalWa 1001
2:30 Watergate (Put Some Funk On, Cause The
Money's Been Long Gone) BlackCircle 102
2:10 Hockey-Puck
BlackCircle 102
Note: SalWa has publisher Screen
Gems. BlackCircle record prdouced by Guy and H.B. Barnum.
CORNELL GUNTER'S COASTERS
(featuring Cornell Gunter,
lead; with Teddy Harper, Nat "Buster" Wilson; plus Gaetano
"Lee Diamond" LaMotta).
Unknown instrumentation incl strings, brass, organ and rhythm. Unknown prod.
Single issued as "Cornell Gunter".
Wally Heider Studios, San
Francisco, November 1975
2:46
Down In Mexico Together 101
2:36 Poison Ivy unissued
3:13 Love In My Heart Together
101
2:27 Wishing Well unissued
Note: Thanks Gaetano LaMotta for
information on this session. Last two tracks filed as "Cornell Gunter
Originals".
"WORLD
FAMOUS" COASTERS or THE COASTERS
(featuring Will "Dub" Jones,
bass vcl-1/lead-2; Leon Hughes, vcl +
unknown singers). Almost certainly the vocal-line ups are two different lineups -
therefore prob. two sessions. J. Rhys, engineer.
Orchestration incl. horns and rhythm. Andy Di Martino (aka Aloysius De Marino),prod.
Los Angeles, ca 1976
4:41 If I Had A Hammer
-2 American International Artists AI -1122, LP AIA-333, GAP
WSH LP 016,
DJM(E) LP 22053
2:40 I Got To Boogie -1 LP AIA-333, GAP 016, DJM(E) LP 22053
2:48 Searchinī as above
2:14 Charlie Brown as above
(not GAP)
2:40 Poison Ivy as above (not GAP)
1:45 Yakety Yak as above (not
GAP)
2:07 Young Blood as above
2:40 Along Came Jones as above
(not GAP)
3:17 Benjamin And Loretta -1
as above
2:46 The Chick Is Guilty as above
Note: "I Got To
Boogie" written by M. Smotherman (publ. A. Dimartino Music /Valentine). AIA-LP is
probably the original album issue on American International Artists (see image on the
"disco version" - the B-side of "If I Had A Hammer" - with the same
track on each side of the single - track time 4:40 - the A-side is same track with time
3:15). The GAP LP is a US Garner Artist Production and DJM album is the British
issue, both titled "The World Famous Coasters" and reissued on C-Five C5CD 579
as "The Coasters - Just Coastinī". The three noted tracks and poss. a couple of
the others definitely feature Will Jones (on "I Got To Boogie" the lead asks
"Dub" to pass his jug). Leon Hughes most possibly on all tracks. Thanks Ray
Baradat for the information about Leon Hughes on the above session. The A-side of 4:41, now 3:20,
reissued on Ripete 3-track single REP-1039 as by Carl Gardner & The
Coasters - with the flip by the Tams and by Clarence Carter. The GAP LP
has ten tracks: If I Had A Hammer, Steps To Your Heart, Helpless In Love,
Searchin', Everybody Needs Somebody, I Got To Boogie, Youngblood, Benhamin And
Loretta, The Chick Is Guilty, Midnight On Boothill (some of those tracks may
feature a complete different white group).
THE
WORLD FAMOUS COASTERS
(featuring Leon Hughes, vcl + unknown singers).
Produced by Leon Hughes and Rayce Gentry.
Unknown accomp.
Live in Lake Tahoe (Calif.-Nevada) and Japan, circa 1977
So Fine AceHi M-101
Baby What You Want Me To Do AceHi M-101
THE COASTERS
(Billy Guy, lead vcl; Will
"Dub" Jones, bass vcl; and Jack Grochmal,
harmony vcl).
Louis Lofredo, dir/prod; Jeff Tweel and Pete Thomason, co-prods; Jan Robin Meurer,
sub-prod; Mike Stone,eng. Musicians: Clay Caire, Jack Grochmal, Sid Johnston, Larry
Sasser, Stephen Shaffer, Rod Smarr, Denis Solee, Pete Thomason, Jeff Tweel. Background
vocals: Pebble Daniel, Linda Hargrove, Marcis Routh, Pamela Thacker, and some of the
musicians. (Thanks Jack Grochmal for
the information on the fact that "Dub" was in on this session in Nashville!).
King/Gusto studios, Nashville, Tenn., late 1977
3:28 Ainīt No Greens In Harlem
Fleet(H) 15674, Ariola(H)unkn. #, Polydor(G) 2040.273
3:22 Jumbo Bwana as above, plus
MasterTone (US) CD 8338
1:48 Yakety Yak King-Gusto GT4-2057,
Bellaphon (G) 100-27-077, Gusto LP PO-310
2:21 Charlie Brown as above
2:47 Searchinī Gusto LP PO-310
2:48 Little Egypt as above
2:20 Young Blood as above
2:55 Along Came Jones as above
2:44 Poison Ivy as above
3:35 One Foot Dragginī as above,
plus LECD, Bam KLMCD 036, MasterTone (US) CD 8338, CD AB 3319
3:48 Beaver Dreamin' Download "Rock Masters"
Note: 3:35 composed by Charlie
Craig (Power Play Music). The Gusto LP, titled "The Coasters Greatest Hits",
also features "Love Potion Number Nine" and "D.W. Washburn" by
the Coasters (see King sessions) and was reissued on Highland/Hollywood HCD-282, Onyx Point CD
264136 and as "Best of the Best" on Federal FED-CD-6543. 3:28 composed by Carl
Fisher and 3:22 by Peter K. Thomason and Jeff Tweel (both published by Roba/Baiesie). All
tracks on LP PO-310 reissued in 1986 on DeLuxe(Canada) CD 1006 "16 Greatest
Hits" together with eight tracks from the Coastersī "On Broadway" album
for King plus on Highland/DeLuxe LP DLX-7786 and CD DCD-7786 together with all tracks on
the Coastersī"On Broadway" album as "The Coasters - 20 Greatest Hits"
in 1987
(reissued on
Gusto/TeeVee TV-0750-2 in 2006).
Leiber-Stoller-Bienstock had sold their shares of King/Starday before these
recordings. Bam CD titled "Young Blood".
"Beaver Dreamin'" is featured on the downloadable album, titled
Rock Masters
(issued 2005), also featuring six Gusto and the Fleet tracks, plus tracks
from Guy's 1963 and "Love Potion No.9" from Gardner's Trip session.
THE COASTERS
(Bobby Nunn, Bobby Sheen, Billy Richards Jr,
Randy Jones, vocals). Orchestration incl. horns, strings and
rhythm: Joe Clark, Ben Bena, Jimmy Nunya, Billy Bass, Wilton Gites, Bobby Haines, Brother
John, Dave Hemper, Gary Ferguson, James Ingram, Billy Mitchell, Bill Como, Don Preston,
Roland Hill, Brenton Banks, Vince Charles, The Good Brother OīDell, Bobby Sheen, Jerry
Summerville, Gary Barone, The Salsa Band. Jimmy Nunya, Bobby Sheen, Billy Richards,prod.
Engineers: Al Ramirez, Art Stewart, Joe Connizzaro, Joe Klein. Jimmy Nunya, manager. Mark
Traversino, studio manager at Drew Studio.
Drew Studio on Sunset-Gower, Star-Trak Rec. Studio, Marvin Gaye Studio, and Joeīs Place
Los Angeles, California, c:a 1977 and 1978
4:35 Charlie Chan - 1 Salsa
Picante SLP 10001
4:25 Dance Coasting as above
5:35 Disco Calypso as above
2:46 One Of These Days as above
4:55 My Sweet Baby as above
3:56 Love Is A Funny Thing as above
3:38 The Big Rip-Off as above
Note: Salsa Picante LP issued in
U.S. in 1979 as "The Coasters...Coasting". "Charlie Chan" possibly
recorded earlier. Mark Traversino ("Charlie Chan"), Richards, Sheen, Nunya,
McPhilbin and Kent Harris listed as composers on the seven disco-type tracks on that LP;
Harrisī composition "The Big Rip-Off" - featuring Nunn and Randy Jones is not
disco-music, but true ghetto blues. Photo on Salsa Picante LP features Nunn, Sheen,
Richards Jr and Randy Jones (and was probably used, as a drawing on Guyīs Archive LP).
Thanks, Mark Traversino, for additional recording information. Jerome Evans sings lead on
another version of Traversinoīs "Charlie Chan".
THE COASTERS
(Line-up prob. as above, incl. Bobby Nunn).
Orchestration incl. horns and rhythm. Prod. by Sheldon A. Saltman, Arthur Forrest, Fabian
A. Forte, Oscar P. Arslanian, Eric Taub and Richard Kulis. Remixed at I & II Recording
Studios, Los Angeles. Fabian, MC.
Bob & Ronnieīs Live Music, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, c:a 1985
Yakety Yak Silver Eagle LP 1041, Warwick CD 2080
Charlie Brown issues as above
Poison Ivy Silver Eagle LP 1041
Along Came Jones as above
Note: Originally issued on
HomeCooking/Magnum video ("Americaīs Music Rock īNī Roll Volume 1" MMGV 049).
Silver Eagle is a triple LP-set and Warwick a CD, both from Canada with different live
artists and titled "Good Time Rock īNī Roll".
LEON HUGHES
& "COASTERS"
(Leon Hughes with Darryl
Reynolds, Larry Hicks, and "Little Dion"
Overstreed, vocals). Unknown instrumentation.
Prob. Los Angeles, California c:a 1992
Yakety Yak VHS Video (unkn. label), Oldie CD (unkn. #)
Charlie Brown as above
Poison Ivy -
Stand By Me -
Searching -
What A Wonderful World -
Rock & Roll -
Love Potion -
Note. This video is titled
"Tribute To Their Greatest Hits" and includes six tracks of above with a total
of 26 minutes. The CD contains all eight tracks, titled "Leon Hughes - one of
the first original Coasters" (issued 1998).
BILLY RICHARDSī COASTERS
(Billy Richards Jr,
Randy Jones, Bobby Sheen, and Tommy Turner,
vocals);
with Billy Ciuffi & The Monte Carlos instrumental back-up. Album titled "Best of
The Coasters - Live on Tour".
Prob. Los Angeles, ca
1994-1995
Chicken Shack (Monte Carlos) Dar-Kat Music CD DK-1001
Poison Ivy -
Searchinī -
Charlie Brown -
Young Blood -
Hog For You -
Leavin It Up To You -
That Is Rock & Roll -
Along Came Jones -
Let The Good Times Roll -
Proud Mary -
Little Egypt -
Yakety Yak -
THE COASTERS
(the Larry Marshak bogus line-up, definately not Gardner, vocals - probably featuring
Early Clover & Bob Rivers).
Orchestration incl. horns, and rhythm.
Unknown location, 1996 (issued on Canadian labels -
"digitally recorded 1996")
3:09 Run Red Run Prime Cuts CD
23552
2:50 What About Us -
2:47 Little Egypt -
2:56 Poison Ivy -
2:30 Charlie Brown -
2:52 Down In Mexico -
1:51 Yakety Yak -
2:15 Young Blood -
2:53 Searchinī -
2:54 Along Came Jones -
Note: Originally issued as
"Greatest Hits" in 1996 on Prime Cuts, reissued on St. Clair-Prime Cuts (Canada)
CD SLD 23552 (in 1999), on St. Clair CD FGD 58192 (as "Forever Gold", also
in 1999) and on Direct Source CD 75382 (as "Roots of Rock īnī Roll" in 1996).
Does anyone know anything about these - I have these Canadian issues - and I canīt locate
the group - is it Cornell Gunterīs Coasters Inc. ? - or more probable: the Larry Marshak
bogus group?
Available at Internet
download - Choice Oldie Cuts.
THE COASTERS - The
Clown Princes of Rock N Roll (first CD)
or THE BILLY GUY
COASTERS (second CD)
(Unknown line-up; in fact Billy Richardsī
Coasters). Unknown orchestration.
Some tracks may come from the first
Richards session. On the second CD the credit suggests a Larry Marshak production. First
CD titled "Live On Tour" (with an image of Marshakīs group) and the second CD
titled "The Billy Guy Coasters - Live On Tour" (with same track order).
Prob. California, ca 1997 (second CD edited 1999)
Poison Ivy - unknown labels
Youngblood -
Searchinī -
Charlie Brown -
Little Egypt -
Dock of the Bay -
A Capella Sing Along -
Ruby -
Zing (Went The Strings Of My Heart) -
Goodnight Sweetheart -
Yakety-Yak -
Shout -
BILLY RICHARDSī COASTERS
(Billy Richards Jr,
Sandy Wyatt, Henry Miller, Larry Tate, and Duane
Jackson, vocals);
with Will Porter and The All Stars back-up band. Album titled "Cruisinī with Billy Richardsī Coasters - Live on Tour
II". Produced by Billy Richards Jnr.
Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, California, July 4, 1999
Watermelon Man (Porter & all stars) - Dar-Kat Music DK-1002
Poison Ivy -
Searchinī -
Charlie Brown -
Young Blood -
Hog For You -
60 Minute Man -
Georgia On My Mind -
That Is Rock & Roll -
Along Came Jones -
Dock Of The Bay -
Higher & Higher -
When A Man Loves A Woman -
Yakety Yak -
Note: Thanks, "temp fan", for
the information on above.
CORNELL GUNTERīS COASTERS
(The Larry Marshak bogus line-up, vocals; some tracks
probably the Billy Richards group, who was managed by Marshak during the early 1990s).
Unknown orchestration. Note: Several of the tracks come from the earlier sessions above.
CD title probably "Cornell Gunterīs Coasters" (although not confirmed).
Unknown location, ca 2000
Charlie Brown - unknown label
Yakety Yak -
Along Came Jones -
Poison Ivy -
Searchinī -
Love Potion Number 9 -
Love Potion Number 10 -
Little Egypt -
Zing Went The Strings Of My Heart -
Smokey Joeīs Café -
Peggy Sue -
My Heart Will Go On -
Lucy In The Sky (With Diamonds) -
Sgt. Pepperīs Lonely Hearts Club Band -
THE CORNELL GUNTER COASTERS
(The Larry Marshak bogus line-up, vocals; some tracks
probably the Billy Richards group). Includes both live and studio recordings. Unknown orchestration. Note: Several of the tracks
come from the earlier sessions above. Album title "The Cornell Gunter Coasters - Gone
Fishinī".
Unknown location, ca 2001
Thats Rock-N-Roll - unknown label
Twist - Lets Twist Again -
Shake Rattle-N-Roll -
A Capella: Doo Wad Diddy, Dancin In The Streets, Twist And Shout -
Charlotte Brown -
Smokey Joes Café -
Its Allright -
Dock of The Bay -
Medley: Poison Ivy, Young Blood, Searchin, Zing, Charlie Brown, Yakety-Yak
Love Potion #9 -
Love Potion #10 -
Shout -
THE MIGHTY CORNELL GUNTERīS COASTERS
(most certainly the
"original" Cornell Gunter's Coasters, featuring Edwin Cook, Charlie Duncan, and
Lionel Pope)
Unknown orchestration.
Live at the first Sponsors Concert, Sunset Park, Las Vegas
May 27, 2001
Unknown recordings
a.o. Young Blood Inkatha CD #10
OFF-SHOT, FAKE, BOGUS & PHONY COASTERS
Billed as: |
aka: |
incl. ex-member: |
The Coasters 1957-58 The Coasters, Mark II ī60s, ī70s |
The Drifters 1957-58 The (West) Coasters or later: Billy Richardsī Coasters ī80s, ī90s, 2000+ plus: Grady Chapmanīs Coasters or The Fabulous Coasters ī80s, ī90s, 2000+ |
featuring Bobby Hendricks and Tommy Evans. Bobby Nunn - fronted by Billy Richards after Nunnīs death and still operating. Guested by several original Coasters. Bobby Sheen also led the group with Grady Chapman out Grady is still active using "The Robins" name. Randy Jones led a group in the ī90s. |
The Fabulous Coasters ī60s, ī70s |
Cornell
Gunterīs Coasters ī80s, ī90s and 2000+ The Original Cornell Gunter's Coasters 2004+ |
Cornell
Gunter remnants touring after Gunterīs death |
Billy Guy & The Coasters mid ī70s |
Billy Guyīs Coasters late ī90s |
Billy Guy Guy coach and cameo ī90s with the Larry Marshak bogus Coasters. |
World Famous Coasters late ī70s |
The Coasters ' 80s, early ' 90s ī80s, early ī90s |
Will Jones & Leon Hughes and later Will Jones & Billy Guy |
The "Original" Coasters ī80s |
Leon Hughes
- one of the original Coasters ī90s plus |
Leon
Hughes |
The Coasters ī70s, ī80s, ī90s |
Cornell Gunterīs
Coasters or: The Cornell Gunter Coasters 2000+ |
no-one - several bogus groups (promoted byLarry Marshak, not including any ex.member, but sometimes ex-members of ex-member-led Coasters. Cornell Gunterīs Coasters "authorized" by Gunterīs sister Shirley) |
The Robins |
The Robbins |
often referred to as being transformed into the Coasters, only presented as "The Robins" - but including Coasters recordings in presentations; or vice versa! |
Note: Larry Marshak originally managed
Billy Richardsī Coasters, and when Richards cancelled that contract, Billy Guy sold his
name to Marshak. When Guy settled his differences with Gardner, Shirley Gunter sold the
Cornell Gunter Coasters name to Marshak.
There are more acts using The Coastersī name:
Coasterīs Review featuring Carl Gardner, Jr (Carl returned to his fatherĻs
group in November, 2004);
Terry Evans with his Legends of Doo-Wop Coasters group; and Charlie Brownīs
Coasters Tribute group.
Even Young Jessie sometimes acted with a "Coasters" group.
THE REAL COASTERS
The Coasters |
Carl Gardner & the Coasters or: The Coasters, featuring Carl Gardner |
Carl
Gardner October 1955 - present |
above charts compiled by Claus Röhnisch.
BOOKINGS: |
|
Coasters
Off-Shot Story Summary
1949
The Robins - featuring Bobby Nunn - start recording.
1953
Grady Chapman joins the Robins.
1954
Carl Gardner embarks the Robins as lead singer.
1955
Gardner and Nunn leave the Robins to form the Coasters with Billy Guy and Leon
Hughes. The Robins continue their career without Gardner and Nunn. Carl is to
lead his group for more than 50 years.
1958
Nunn and Hughes are replaced by Will "Dub" Jones and Cornell Gunter. Billy
Richards Jr and Bobby Sheen join the Robins.
1961
Gunter leaves the Coasters to join Dinah Washington. Earl Carroll joins the true
Coasters.
1862
Bobby Nunn starts a "competing" Coasters group late this year - originally
called "The Coasters, Mark II" - featuring Billy Richards Jr, Bobby Sheen and
soon also Grady Chapman.
1963
Gunter starts a Las Vegas Coasters group - originally called "The Fabulous
Coasters" - featuring remnants from the Penguins.
1968
Will “Dub” Jones leaves the true Coasters early this year, soon replaced by
Ronnie Bright.
1973
Billy Guy leaves the true Coasters, replaced by Jimmy Norman. Randy Jones sings
with Cornell Gunterīs Coasters (and also acts with Nunn’s group).
1975-1977
Leon Hughes acts with a group called "The Original Coasters" in California -
featuring Grady Chapman and Jerome Evans and also waxes a single featuring Bobby
Nunn. Hughes and Will Jones record as "The World Famous Coasters". Guy and Jones
wax "Coasters" recordings in Nashville.
1983
Billy Guy and Will Jones start to occasionally act with "their" Coasters up to
1999.
1986
Bobby Nunn dies, but Billy Richards Jr continues to act with the group - now
managed by Larry Marshak. Grady Chapman forms a new fake Coasters group (often
called "The Fabulous Coasters") - featuring Randy Jones, Jerome Evans and also
Bobby Sheen (none of the three any longer with us). These off-springs will multiply
into several new versions of "Coasters".
1988
Early Clover joins a Larry Marshak-managed bogus "Coasters".
1990
Gunter dies, but remnants from his group, featuring Charlie Duncan and Edwin
Cook start "Cornell Gunterīs Coasters, Inc"
(a group which ten years later later will split to "Edwin Cook and his Cornell Gunter Coasters”).
During the 1990s several other fake and long-shot Coasters relatives act with
different Coasters groups. Sometimes as many as nine different Coasters groups
are active.
1997
Billy Richards Jr cancels his contract with Marshak and signs an out-of-court
settlement with Gardner - Billy now calling his group "Billy Richards’ Coasters". Marshak finds new singers to continue his promoting of "The Coasters" - a group
now completely fake.
1999
Billy Guy hands over "his rights" to Marshak, who now uses the name "Billy Guyīs
Coasters" for the Marshak group.
2000
Guy settles with Gardner and retires. Gunterīs sister Shirley hands over the
"rights" of "Cornell Gunter’s Coasters" to the Marshak fake group (which
actually will multiply itself in different versions throughout the States and
Canada).
2002
Gardner’s son Carl, Jr (who had joined his father in 1998) starts a "Coasters
Review" group in California. Grady Chapman now reforms his "Coasters" into a new
Robins group.
2004
Carl Gardner, Jr returns to his father's true Coasters group in November.
2007
Marshak’s Coasters still act as Cornell Gunter's Coasters, but Charlie
Duncan now introduces his The “Original” Cornell Gunter’s Coasters.
THE COASTERS and their off-shoots SHEET (pdf.file)
OFF-SHOT
COASTERS ALBUMS
The following albums do not include Carl
Gardnerīs Coasters, but contain recordings done by former members of the original and
classic Coasters or by new-formed faked groups.
Edited by Claus Röhnisch, June 20, 2008.
The Golden ī50s
Coasters Summary
| Biography | Singles & LPs
| CD
Discography | Session Discography | Line-Ups
| Chart
Hits | Time-Line | The Robins