Prophecy Discussion Board Perceptions of Received Prophecy (Understanding Prophecy with a Catch) I had a major revelation, asking me to stress the concept of man’s grace bestowed upon him as the “Blue Heaven.” What does “Blue Heaven” Mean? Ah, if you asked a prophet back in the ancient times what his revelation of “Blue Heaven” means, he would say it is the sky. It’s been taught that way for the ages, but Why? The bible clearly states the Grace is this earth and that Heaven is to be on Earth. Quite simple back then they had only what they could see and perceive as to be “Blue Heaven”, The sky. Today however we are able to see, through satellite pictures, a blue globe called earth. I am using this hypothetically, as an analogy, so that you can see my point I’m about to make. Man's visions or Prophecies or revelation is not set in stone when they can only describe what they see as tangible to their knowledge of that day and age they had the insight. Thus great floods to them might just be disasters like the Mississippi flood, but not a world threatening flood. The wars they see might be enormous in their time view but might actually be a simple battle. What if the vision of hell was just a vision of the Japanese traditional fire festival which would appear to be people burning and fighting in a inferno. Do you understand that logic? Then understand that man creates this false vision of things to come and perhaps the outcome will actually be promising, not as interpreted, therefore you assume God would let or want this destruction and know about it. What if we created it by thinking about it (self fulfilling it),but it's not intended? Plus a fact that evades everyone: Importantly, it is revealed that God can change His mind (Jeremiah 18:7-10; 26:3), or that the direction of things (destiny) can be altered. In short, basically man has fought wars and caused pain and suffering and fantasized about things they aren’t sure are interpreted right or real visions. What if the Revelations added to the bible was the rantings of a man who ate some spicy food and had weird dreams? What if the book was the mind of a fiction writer. What if the writer had evil intent? You must evaluate with logic and not emotions or traditions cause you will never see all the possible scenarios with a closed mind. With this closed to possibilities mind set, you then put a veil over your eyes from seeing or accepting things to come. About Heaven On Earth "But your dead will live; their bodies will rise. You who dwell in the dust, wake up and shout for joy...the earth will give birth to her dead." see it's the earth you'll see the dead awake and not heaven...(This isn't to be taken literal, as it really refers to spiritual dead and not actual dead)
(Ecclesiastes 1:4) One Generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the EARTH abideth FOREVER.
(Proverbs 10:30) The Righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.
(Psalm 37:22) For such as be blessed of Him shall inherit the Earth; and they that be cursed of Him shall be cut off.
(Psalm 37:34) Wait on the Lord, and keep His way and he shall exalt thee to inherit the Land, when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
****psalms 37:29 The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it.**** (once again it says earth and not heaven in the sky) Many places it talks of this earth being the grace and your forfeiting it for the attainment of a place that doesn't exist and in that your selfish and your offspring will suffer because your to bound in traditions and pride to change your ways. **** "For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. 22 But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it." (KJV) ****** You want to go to some made up place in the sky but warning all Prophecies from scripture and outside scripture all tell of the false teacher leading people to take them to the sky (or stars). Heb 11 Says Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob all died, without receiving the promises. (proof the kingdom of heaven is yet to be built as other verses clearly state that fact.) Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; 'Behold, I am against your pillows (symbolically meaning:feathers/wings or dream/ fantasy) , wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them FLY, and I will tear them from your arms. and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly...
(this means the souls that are stolen in the false hope of afterlife where they are told the soul rises and flys to a false, fantasy heaven.)
(22) Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by PROMISING HIM LIFE:Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver My People out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the Lord."
Verse about Death: Psalms 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. (if you have no thoughts, then you have no conciousness when you die, which means there is no afterlife idea of heaven.)
Deuteronomy\Devarim: 30:19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day,That I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse;Therefore choose life, that you may live, you and your children.
"So will it be on the earth and among all the nations...gleanings are left (i.e., a few people will remain)...They raise their voices, they shout for joy...singing: 'Glory to the Righteous One'..." (Isaiah 24:13-16). "In that day the Lord will punish the powers in the heavens above and the kings on the earth below...the Lord Almighty will reign on Mount Zion in Jerusalem..." (Isaiah 24:21-23). "He will swallow up death forever...." (Isaiah 25:8). A Big Clue: Matt 16:19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (see it says everything done on earth is done in Heaven because it affects the future of the earth, where Heaven is what could be made of it.) Another verse I think in Jeremiah says their feet will worship & lick the dust of the ground with the Lord. (meaning grounded on earth and not in the sky.)
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