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The Seed Of The Harvest

Message Board Forum On The Subject of What The Bible Says
About Money, Giving, Tithing,


Bible Message Board Forum


Dear Christian Friends and Christian Ministries Abroad The World,

URGENT PRAYER REQUEST To Fight Back AGAINST tradions of men legalist and BRING BACK THE BIBLE TRUTHS. You who are spiritual restore such Pastors and Christians, and neighbors that are falling into an unknown sin.

Greetings in the name of Jesus our Lord and Savior. His Blessings be upon all!

We have had such an alarming concerned by many of us, hearing the TV evanglist saying "SEEDS OF THE HARVEST IS MONEY!" Watch out and pray. Many of our beloved preachers have unknowning fallen in the sin of mammon, which is a big trap satan is doing to get us all to fall.

No where in the Bible does it meantion that Seeds are money!! The Seed in scriptures are The Word of God (Matthew 13 Jesus parable of the sower and the seeds). That is the spiritual parable meaning.

JESUS SAID:
Matthew 13:18 "Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower."

Matthew 13:19 "When any one HEARS THE WORD of the kingdom, and understands it not, then comes the wicked one, and catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side."

Matthew 13:20 "But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that HEARS THE WORD, and and with joy receives it."

Matthew 13:21 "Yet has he not root in himself, but dures for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of THE WORD, by and by he is offended."

Matthew 13:22 "He also that received SEED among the thorns is he that HEARS THE WORD; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful."

Matthew 13:23 "But he that received SEED into the good ground is he that HEARS THE WORD, and understands it; which also bears fruit, and brings forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty."


THE SEED HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONLY THE WORD OF GOD. NEVER MONEY AS A SEED. THE ONLY THING THE BIBLE SAYS AS WARNING TO PREACHERS MAKING MONEY OFF THE SEED IS 1 TIM. Chapter 6 as woes that come upon those that trust in money and not God. No eternal life to those that choose to stay in the sins of mammon! Check the chapter out if you don't believe me. The physical scripture meaning for Seed in the Bible means The Seed of Abraham, which means children offspring. Or seeds that you plant in the ground to make plants grow.

While it is true that our money tithing 1/10 belongs to Our God. He will bless us if we return to Him what belongs to Him in the first place. Does God need our money to run the ministry?? Nope! God is the sole source to providing our needs and the needs of His Church ministries. It is only Him that gives us our wealth! Yet many fail to pray about where God directs His tithe money to go! Some just give to a church building fund and forget to ask the Lord, do you want Your money to go here (leaving the Lord intirely out of the decision making). If these Christians do this, then their hearts are into a building fund, and not in the Lord. Lord Jesus help to open all Christian eyes everywhere. Forgive their sin, and renew their minds with Your ways.

What does God want from us? Money? No. But rather our heart and willingless to keep God first in all things we do. If greed in money comes first in our lives and we hang on to it. This is not putting God first in trusting in Him. That is why we give Him first place in our money matters (Mal 5) and our life. While we are obeying Him by giving Him our tithe, He will open the windows to Heaven and pour out a blessing. Please.....Please..... Please.... pray and intercede for the bretherns in the Gospel that have fallen. Pray that God will open their eyes! That the Seed of the Harvest is the Word of God (The Bible). Let not satan deceive the Christian Elect or any one of His Christian Believers, any longer!! Victory to JESUS. Let His Truth Shine Forth. AMEN!

In Christ Love,
Vickilynn VerSteeg
Walking In His Truths
Bible Scriptures Truths
https://www.angelfire.com/mt/BibleTruths


IF YOU DON'T BELIVE ME LISTEN TO SOME OF THE FOLLOWING REPLYS From Other Christian Ministries..... ===========================
Dear Vickilynn:

I believe some preachers are not aware of what you already know. Seed of harvest are not money. I don't think any preacher would give most or all the churches money away in the expectation of a 30, 60 or 100 fold return. They haven't yet, at any rate.

God Bless You Vickilynn
Pastor Larry Stanford
Calvary Chapel Church
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Dear Vickilynn,

Interesting comment seeing as how the ministry name the Lord gave me was Seeds of Harvest. It is a missions org. dedicated to supporting missionaries and short- term mission trips also just serving pastors and the body in general. We are not dedicated to money! Not meaning you were talking to us in particular. I know your seed isn't money but faith in God! His word and doing His will. Any way I agree with your word and am concerned that the body is in greed big time right now.

Blessings to you,
Jon Foster,
President SEEDS OF HARVEST MINISTRIES

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Greeting Vickilynn,

Just would like to comment on you message about " Are Seeds of the Harest..Money??." Yes you are right to say watch and pray that we fall not into temptation, we are to discerners of the words which others preach. We must make sure that it lines up with the Word of God. Some can take the Holy Scriptures and twist them for their own purpose and gain.

Some preach about Jubilee and tie that with money. Jubilee means Happy occasion a time of shouting(yobel). I think one should read Leviticus 25 and see what Jubilee is all about. And you shall return every man unto his possession, and you shall return every man unto his family.. You shall not sow, neither reap that which grown of itself, nor gather it in the grapes of your vine. For it is the Jubilee; it shall be Holy unto you: It does not say if you sow a seed of money that it will come back to you overflowing.

Read , Read what it says. And if thy brother becomes poor, and cannot support himself among, then you shall relieve him; take no interest from him, or profit, but fear they God; that your brother may live with you. You shall not give him your money upon interest, nor lend him thy food supplies for profit. Money, Money, Money by whose profit shall it gain. By whose voice is it called forth?

Those who preach sowing a seed in this Jubilee, say to those who cant give for they have little to give that it will return again to you 2x,3x,4x the amount that you give, Whose Jubilee is it? Whose purse is being filled?

Lets look at what it say about sowing a seed. Matthew 13:37 He answer and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; Matthew 13:3 Behold, a sower went forth to sow; 4: and when he sowed some of the seeds fell by the wayside, and the fowls came and devoured them. (verse5) Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth; and forthwith they sprang up, because they had no deepness of earth. (verse 6) And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. (verse7) And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up, and choked them. (verse 8) But other seeds fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. (verse 9) WHO HATH EARS TO HEAR, LET HIM HEAR.

The seed is the Word of God which is planted in us and if we dont water it with the Word of God and with prayer and Worship and fellowship with God and the Lord Jesus then it dies. Did He not tell us to Hide it in our Hearts.

Proverbs 3 - Let not mercy and truth forsake you; bind them about your neck; write them on the table of your heart. How can we sow the seed to others if it is not mature and growing in us. How then can we show the way to Salvation and Life if His Seed grow not in us.

Mark 4 tells of the sower and the seed, get wisdom and understanding Proverbs 4:5-7 "Get wisdom, get understanding; forget it not, neither decline from the words of my mouth. . Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee; love her, and she shall keep thee.  Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore, get wisdom; and with all you getting, get understanding. And if you dont have wisdom then ask God for it."

Now tithes are another thing all together. We are to tithe to the Lord out of our first fruits of all our increase;. Proverbs 3:9,10 say Honor the Lord with thy substance, and with the first fruits of all thine increase; so shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that you measure it shall be measured to you again.

2 Corninthians 9:6,7,8,9 But this I say, He who soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he who soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give, not grudgingly, or of necessity; for God loveth a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having abound to every good work. As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor; is righteousness remaineth forever. Read the rest of the chapter. And with this Scripture I will close or I would go on for sometime on this matter.

Luke 12:29,30,,31 "And seek not what you shall eat, or what you shall drink, neither be you of doubtful mind. For all these things do the nations of the world seek after; and your Father knoweth that you have need of these things. But rather seek you the kingdom fo God, and all these things shall be added unto you." Seek your first Love and God will do the rest. God first all other things will fall into place as the Father see fit and His will comes to the fullness of His Grace toward us who believe.

1 Tim 4 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves , covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, balse accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. Having a form of godliness, but enying the power of it; from such trun away."

I choose to walk in the Word of God. Gather, in the name of Jesus, I commit myself to walk in the Word. Your Word living in me produces Your life in this world, I recognize that Your Word is integrity itself - steadfast, sure, enternal - and I trust my life to its provisions. You have sent your Word forth into my Heart. I let it dwell in me richly in all wisdom. I meditate in it day and night so that I may diligently act on it.

The incorruptible Seed, the Living Word, the Word of Truth, is abiding in my spirit. That Seed is growing mightily in me now, producing Your nature, Your Life. It is my counsel, my shield, and my buckler, my powerful weapon in battle. The Word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. It makes my way plain before me. I do not strmble, for my steps are ordered in the Word. The Holy Spirit leads and guides me into all truth. He gives me understanding, discernment, and comprehension so that I am preserved from the snares of the evil one. I delight myself in You and Your Word. Because of that , You put Your desires within my heart. I commit my way unto You., and You bring it to pass. I am confident that Yor are at work in me now both to will and to do all Your good pleasure. I exalt Your Word, Hold it in High Esteem and give it first place. I make my schedule around Your Word.. I make the Word final authority to settle all questions that confromnt me. I choose to agree with the Word of God, and I choose to disagree with any thoughts, conditions, or circumstances contarary to Your Word. I boldly and confidently say that my heart is fixed and established on the foundation - The Living Word of God.Amen. Search the Scriptures and get Wisdom and Understand ask and it shall be given. My people perish from that lack of knowledge, wisdom and understanding. Seek My Counsel. Get Wisdom, Get Understanding.
In His Serve,
Donna Jaques
Breath Of Heaven Ministries



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