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From: "hobces" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 05:24:51 -0000
Subject: [Emancipation] EMANCIPATION - June 25th General Meeting.
"Can I make a motion?" asked Andy Kaufman. "What kind of motion
would you be making?" asked the chair. Andy Kaufman began to
ramble. "We can't discuss it any more; it's been tabled," said the
chair.
Josh Karpf thinks I'm incoherent. Do you agree?
Actually I was asking to take up labeling at a supplementary or
additional meeting, something that has never occurred in the history
of the Co-Op (note dissident spelling) so far as I know. And I
question, again, Yehuda Katz's certainty that following Robert's
Rules would not slow down the meetings. By the way, I am "Andy
Kaufman on a Bad Day," although once he honored me by calling me "The
Colin Ferguson Wannabe!" Sic transit gloria mundi.
This meeting, which was *very* well attended, made me feel more
than ever before that the whole myth of direct democracy is getting
tired and that no one really has the moxie to support it. Ken 's and
John Urda's testaments to the joy of direct democracy and the
fanatical prevention of even the merest shred of anything else, as
when Joe prevented John Urda from voting on the labeling decision
because he had not been present for that part of the meeting, seemed
almost empty shibboleths. Thanks Yehuda and of course Jewel Bachrach
for doing what I couldn't do myself--proposing an extension of time
and proposing to overrule the Chair. The latter being, by the way,
not a good bet at annual meetings as Tony Elitcher, who overruled me
in an earlier meeting, seemed to show up again to do his magic, this
time requesting that reports of elections not disclose the number of
Against votes, and of course, helping the chair to gain the mental
edge it needed to overrule both of Yehuda's motions. I myself don't
see any reason why a meeting could not change its time limits or even
introduce a proposal not on its agenda. Though we have an Agenda
Committee I don't believe it is stated anywhere that items *cannot*
be brought up at a meeting (just as we state that the Board must meet
with the general meeting, but never state that it shouldn't meet at
other times also).
So my refusal to speak or answer questions went over, I thought,
beautifully and I didn't gain anything like the ridicule I have
endured at other annual meetings. So thanks, guys!!
The vote for the Board was
................FOR......AGST.....ABST......BLNK
FISHMAN
...Mail...........658......132.......89........94
...Meeting.......36.......10.......10..........7
SOLOMON
...Mail...........230......427......131.......184
...Meeting.......11.......33.......10............7
So Good! so far as it goes-- I broke 100 votes, and then some!
The overall ratio was three to one. I'm not sure what Abstain or
Blank means--how did they know for which candidate? And what about the ones that were disqualified (invalid)?--I didn't get how many of those there were. Still, this was probably no different overall than the 2000 election, when there were five or six candidates, so fewer would be alloted to me.
Fading fast friends . . . Thanks again :) Albert.
For a promo for democracy: o Fun o Fast o Simple
o Proportional.
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