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1. What is with that Demeter/Macaivty/Bombalurina
thing anyway? Did Mac have a relationship with Demeter? Or Bombalurina?
Or BOTH??? Or none?
Opinions: Toberanna: Demeter and Bombalurina are definitely sisters. I have heard a RUMOR that Macavity kidnapped Demeter when she was a kitten ... this is completely unfounded and Eliot sure as heck never mentioned it. |
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The Hartmann Family: I don't think that Bombalurina and Demeter are related at all. I believe that they are just good friends.I also think that Demeter and Macavity might have had a thing going... or maybe Demeter was abducted by him. That's only my opinion, though T.S. Eliot never mentioned it. Then again, I know this sounds crazy, but what if Demeter and Macavity are related, (I just thought this up) like being sister and brother...? Croix Provence: I think Macavity Stole(kidnapped) Bomballurina, and she got used to him.Later, I think Bomballurina took Demeter to where she and Mac where stayting, and then the kellicles found out about what macavity did and they went away, but I think that they're seceretly related to Mac. Matropolis: I think Bomba and Demi are both sisters and best friends, and were both kidnapped by Macavity when they were younger, and Bomb probably flirted with him(why wouldn't she?) Franziska: I guess Demeter and Bombalurina are very close friends, they found each other because they are similar in character. Maybe Mac is related to Bombalurina, after all they are both red, maybe they are cousins or something similar. I think Demeter is attracted to Mac but she doesn't like the others to know because he's a bad guy. Maybe she doesn't want to believe it herself. Anonymous: I think Demeter is Bombalurina's daughter. I mean, Bombal protects her from Grizabella and stuff. I also think Demeter and Macavity are like lovers. She just doesn't want her tribe to know. Gena: Demeter and Bombalurina are sisters that used to work for Macavity, as did Mongojerri and Rumpletezer. Riff Hepburn: I know this sounds very distasteful but what if B is a lesbian (just watch the way she puts her hands all over Demeter) and Demeter is torn between her love and Macavity's? Putting that aside entirely, perhaps they both had a realtionship with Macavity (listen to B's verse) but Demeter isn't over him yet? Anynoymous: I think Bom and Demeter were sisters, but their parents split up when they were very young and maybe Demeter was the one that had the relationship with him, because in the show she's the first one to know he's around so it figures mabye they've had a hidden relationship. Now Bom on the other hand may have grown up with RTT because they seem to flirt a lot in the show or maybe they were playmates as they grew up. Grizabella: I believe that Bom had a relationship that soured with Mac and Demeter is infatuated with Mac. When she sees him for who he truly is, she decides to keep Munk as her man, esp after he fights for her during the Mac/Munk scene. She even licks his wounds afterwards, like a cat couple (had cats, they did things like that). Bom and Demeter are best friends, and sometimes rivals for the toms. David: Demeter and Macavity were lovers until she met Bombularina and they split. (Bombularina isn't gay. Just told Demeter that Macavity was bad and she's just too protective) Demeter is couples with Munkustrap now. Melody aka Victoria Dancer: First off....Demeter and Bombalurina seem to be sisters. I mean....they look so much alike! Bombalurina is the older sister who probably had a thing with Macavity when she was younger, but it eventually faded. (She now loves Rum Tum Tugger!) I think Demeter now has eyes for Macavity(and a relationship)...maybe because he is so mysterious...and doesn't want the others to know. (Bombalurina does know, however..that is why she gives Demeter these hopeless looks during the song.) Demeter is so close to Macavity that she is always the first to sense him and even realizes that he was playing Dueteronomy. Munkustrap and Demeter (in my opinion) may be related or just good friends. She was probably just thanking him for helping her out of the relationship. Mistoffelissa: Bombalurina and Demeter are just friends, and they both have crushes on Macavity because he's the "Bad boy". Some may argue about why he tries to kidnap Demeter, but I think it's because she's the one who figures out that he ain't Deutoronomy, so she jumps at him, ruining his plans. So, obviously, he gets ticked off. 2. How old do you REALLY think Deuteronomy is?? Opinions: Rosiecat: Well personally I think Old Deuteronomy is about 200 in cat years - making him a little over 26 I think in human years. Toberanna: 70 in people years. The oldest inhabitants are walking by going "Is he STILL here?" Ozabub: I think Old Deuteronomy is possibly around 18 years or older in cat years. You can tell be the way he walks so slowly, and the amount of knowledge he seems to have in his brain shows he's been around for a while. Matropolis: well, I look at it this way. I hate math, but I used it anyway. he was born long before Victoria reigned, which accrodingly was in about 1880. I figure that he was born in like, 1790, making him...208 years old Gena: He's very old, as they said, he lived out many of his 9 lives in sucession, witch means that he's already died of old age repetedly. Grizabella: I believe that Deut is much much older than he appears. After living nine cat years, he must be almost ancient. How many years does a normal cat live, anyway? (Mine were never able to live a normal life to old age, but my ex mother in law had a 20 year old cat, and that's with one lifetime, multiply that by 9!) David: Old Deutaronomy is about 80 yrs. old. Victoria: Old D's as old as the hills. He's been around forever. Bronwen: I think it depends on what year this jellicle ball is supposed to take place. I mean, they seem to mention Queen Victoria a lot but not just when Old D. is mentioned. Gus mentions Queen Victoria as well. But when Munkustrap mentions her, have you noticed that he sort of bends down to Victoria the cat? So, how do we know WHICH Queen Victoria they mean? 3. What breed is Cassandra? Siamese? Burmese? Mixed? Opinions: Powder: Cassadra is a Burmese! She doesn't look at ALL like a Siamese! They have a light colored body with dark points. Cassie is exactly the opposite! A Burmese fits MUCH better with her coloring. Matropolis: I have no clue, but certainly not Siamese. Siamese have HUGE ears, mostly tan and black at points, and MUCH more hyper Gena: The makeing of CATS (availible when purchesing the widescreen version on DVD) says that she's a siamese, I'm not gonna' argue with it. Grizabella: Never stopped to think about it, really. Prob Burmese, cause the fem cat hasn’t any tan at all, unless there are Siamese who aren't the normal markings. Victoria: Cassandra is a siamese. Almost every site I've been to has said she's siamese. 4. Who do you think looks the best with Misto? Opinions: Powder: Victoria, mostly. Black and white compliment each other quite nicely. They're the same age and constantly seen playing together. Mistoffelees is olden than he seems. Then again, Sillabub is quite cute, but she is not often seen with Mistoffelees. Toberanna: Victoria, no question. Just watch them in certain intimate video scenes. Ozabub: Jemima or Victoria. Matropolis: Not vic, really. I just don't see him. he looks alot younger than she, maybe Jemima or Electra, she seems to like him Gena: I'd have to say Jemina (Sillabulb), because they're both kittens, and can grow up together. Cassandra: Cassandra DEFINITLY! We are both really graceful and make a great pair! They should definetly be partners. Grizabella: Me, he's hot! No, really, I think Vicki should be with him. They seem attracted to each other, watch the way his eyes are on her while she dances her solo, he's hot for her! David: Victoria and Misto are supposed to be together. Victria~: Do you think Mistoffelees and Victoria would make the perfect couple? My opinion: YES!!!!!!!!! OF COURSE!!!!!!!!! I think the two were meant to be!!!!! I am a crazy fan of Cats, and I think that they are the PERFECT couple!!!! Melody aka Victoria Dancer: Victoria is perfect for Mistoffolees! First off...you can tell he has the hots for her! He watches her with awe-struck eyes during her solo, dances with her, and flashes magic on her! Victoria also appears to like him...they look at each other a lot and they are always pretty close to each other! Plus, Victoria seems to be a very refined cat who would go for a cat like Mistofolees! (Who is also a refined gentleman cat!) THEY ARE PERFECT for each other! Victoria: Misto is DEFINATELY mine!!!! No ones taking MY cute kitty away! Bronwen: Victoria and Cassandra LOOK the best with Mistoffelees but I agree that they're too old for him to date (right now, anyway. It might not look so weird later when Mistoffelees is older). Right now, he should date someone his own age like Electra, Etcetera(if she ever gets over Tugger),Rumpleteazer or maybe even Jemima/Sillabub(if she's not too young for him). Lexi: Like most people, I would say Victoria. They're so cute together!!! AND, I occasionally see them flirting off stage (Well like when they're not supposed to be in the spotlight or somthin) but, I also have seen Misto with Electra. Like at the Cat Nap, they were REALLY flirtin with each other! 5. What do you think Victoria's solos are really all about? (Nothing really crazy here, okay?) Opinions: Toberanna: I think this is where she loses her virginity. A lot of other sites think so too. Ozabub: Well, I first thought that her fist solo dance was her just stretching, (like a cat) elaborately and elegantly, but I'm not really sure. The second one, *sorry!* seems like she is loosing her inocence. I'm still not sure what the point of that part is! Annonymous: Well, why do they dance through the whole thing? Just a show, right? Well, I think Victoria's solo was juts a show to show off her flexibility! (ok, so it ahs nothing to do with what you guys said up there, but oh well!) Matropolis: I no longer beleive it's a mating thing. If it was, than she has massive cheating on boys issues. I think it was showing her growing into adulthood and out of kittenhood. Because if she was mating with Plato, then he has issues too, cause he crawls on top of Etcetra twice Gena: it says that both times she's trying to grow into cathood, but the first time, Mistofolees comes out right in the middle and knocks her down, and the second time, she suceeds. Alexa: I believe the first solo shows Victoria's approach to adulthood; still a little shakey, she explores her womanhood while showing off at the same time. Her dance with Plato is the consummation of her adulthood, and is obviously symbolic mating--after all, these are cats we're talking about! We can't forget that they're not entirely human; cats are some of the most un-monogamous animals in nature. There is major flirting going on between many cat couples throughout the musical, some stronger than others, but usually among several different partners. Annonymous: I think that Victoria's first solo is about being a Jellicle cat, not having anything to do with showing off her body or flexability. Her next solo is about being seduced by another cat and falling in love with him. The dancing represents their falling in love with each other. It's a family musical, I don't think there would be any sex. Grizabella: Ok, the first one is a expression dance. She is expressing her feelings, but as to what they are, I am only guessing. Her first night as an adult? The second I always thought appeared very sexual in nature, and the first time I saw the entire scene, I actually thought it was a cat orgy. Yah, so there are brothers and sisters in there together. It doesn't always matter to cats if they are from the same litter (Trust me, after having cats!). I agree that she is probably loosing her innocence, in THAT way, I mean the tom lays her across the other cat and scratches her! Melody aka Victoria Dancer: I believe that Victoria is known in the tribe as the beautiful, graceful kitten. The first dance was just to show her beautiful form and skills...like how the other jellicles show their skills through out the show. The second dance doesn't seem to be a mating dance...but more of a dance to show that she is ready to be an adult jellicle. The partnering with the guys shows that she is ready to deal with the ways of adult hood and that she is ready to start being an adult. It may also be another show of her form, flexibility, and grace in front of Deuteronomy....who I strongly believe is her father. Mistoffelissa: Well, I know for one thing that when female cats are ready to mate, they go into heat, which is when they go into all of these wired positions with their bottoms in the air and stuff, and Victoria's the one most of the male cats are flirting with. Also, I REALLY disagree about the Mistoffelees knocking her down thing. If he had been "Knocking her down", she would have been mad at him, not smiling at him and dancing along beside him. Also, about the whole "This is a family show so there's no sex" thing, that's a pretty feeble aruguement. No offense, but look at Rum Tum Tugger and the way he dances. Wouldn't you call that at least "Suggestive"? Geeze. Bronwen: To tell you the truth, I'm not sure they mean ANYTHING. Exept the first one of course, that one just signals the invitation to the jellicle ball for the people in the audience. 6. Who do you think would inherit Munkustrap's position when Munk takes Deuteronomy's place? Opinions: Powder: Mistoffelees. He seems like the most responsible of all the tom cats, even though he does seem a little young. I can really picture him giving out information to the younger cats. If not him, then I would choose Alonzo next. Alonzo tries to protect the tribe as much as Munkustrap. In the Macavity fight scene, it is Munkustrap and Alonzo who fight Macavity first before the other toms join in. Rosiecat: I think maybe there should be a girl instead of a guy cat in the role of leader - Demeter would make a good leader. Toberanna: Do you really think Munkus is the next Jellicle Leader? Deuteronomy is more of a sage, Munkus is a warrior. I suspect that either Demeter or Bustopher would do a good job ... but if Munkustrap DOES ascend, Alonzo would probably fill his shoes as fighter. Ozabub: Either Skimble or Alonzo. Skimble is so fatherly and responsible, hmmm....it's hard to tell.... Psalmity: I have seen this several places and I believe it to be true: Alonzo will be first in charge and Mistoffelees will be like Munkustrap. (this happens when Munkustrap leaves the tribe) Matropolis: I think he'll be the leader because he seems most responsibel, and he always seems in charge. And then I think Alonzo will take his original place. But I also agree with the idea of a female leader, and Demeter would be good for the job too Gena: Probably one of his siblings, Victoria, probably, I just can't see Tugger trying to explain the world to kittens after that bagpipe incident... plus, etcentra would probably follow him around, screaming every time he shook his tail, so it would probably Viccy. Grizabella: Misto, definitely. He seems to be a jr. lt, if you know what I mean; but at times he still shows his age, like when he hides behind Deut. Jemima T: I think the next Jellicle leader will totally be Electra. My friends and I made up stories and backrounds for all the cats. Electra comes from the Macavitus (Macavity's clan) because she has red + black fur. She is the only 1/2 - whole Macavitus cat that doesn't get possesed on Macavity's birthday. She has special powers. She is very responsible and clever. She also has many more years ahead than Old Deutoronomy. Victoria: Alonzo should take Munku's place. He acts like he's second best, and he takes over for Munku in the Macavity fight. On Broadway, he fights Macavity more than Munk. Mistoffelissa: I don't think Munkustrap ever will take Old Deutoronomy's place. Old Deutoronomy has lived so long, and I think the message (As tacky as this is going to sound) is that it's some kinda of mystical thingamajigger where he's always the Jellicle leader, and always will be. Some may say this can't be because it has to be more realistic, but let's face it. Is the Heavyside Layer realistic? nooo. And, even if Munkustrap does take Deutoronomy's place, the next person to take Munkustrap's place will be someone who hasn't been born yet. Alonzo and Munku are about the same age. That's kinda dumb. Alonzo wouldn't live much longer than Munkustrap. He'd pick someone from the next generation of cats to be his heir or whatever. Bronwen: Well, if it must be someone who's already in the tribe, I'd say either Mistoffelees, Alonzo or Demeter. But have you seen the age difference between Munkustrap and Old Deuteronomy? So maybe they should wait for a new litter of kittens to come and choose one of THEM to be leader after Munkustrap. 7. Do you think Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer are brother and sister? A couple? Just friends? Opinions: Rosiecat: Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer are brother and sister! They have the same markings and the same habits, they fight like a brother and sister and they work together like a brother and sister. Toberanna: Definitely a couple! Indubitably! Watch them cuddle on the car after their song in the video and during Deuteronomy's contemplations. Ozabub: I don't think they are related. The way they cuddle and stuff is not really something that brothers and sisters, do...at least, I hope not! I think the are best of friends, and they use their practicaly identical looks to their advantage of confusing their humans when caught doing something they shouldn't have done. Matropolis: just friends. they grew up together and their really close. People'll ask me how I know and I don't have an answer--I know so Anonymous: think that Jerrie and Teazer are just friends. The way that they get together so well and never seem to fight just doesn't work if they are siblings. Believe me. I have a brother and we never cooperate. Franziska: They are not related, I agree with Ozabub who thinks they are using their identical looks to confuse people. There's a kind of attraction between them but it is nothing they themselves think about Bombalurina: Brother and Sister. The actual CATS script confirms this. Anonymous: They are couple in my opinion, I mean, just look at the way that they groom each other on the trunk. Plus, they look great together! Gena: Uh... Not only are they a couple, they're litter mates! Jo Gibb talks about it in the makeing of CATS, they're defently siblings... and siblings that weren't raised right, they love trouble! (They even worked for Macavity for a short time, Mongo can't work alone!) Anonymous: Jerrie and Teazer are mates, in the mating dance if you look in the background, they're being a little intimate to be brother and sister. Grizabella: All three. I think that incest isn't an issue in the catworld Peda: I don't think Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer are supposed to be a couple. Eliot intended for them to both be males if you read the poems, but it's cuter in the show if they are male/female. I think to look so alike and put up with each other the way they do.. they must be twins or at least bro&sis. Megera: HHhmmm.interesting. I think they're just tight friends. Probably have known each other since they were kittens and are really close. David: Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer: Friends who grew up together since birth. Victoria: Mungo and Teaze are siblings. They look like siblings, they act like siblings, the quarrel like siblings. THEY'RE SIBLINGS! Bronwen: I think T.S Eliot might have imagined them as either friends or siblings but Andrew Lloyd Webber I think pictured them as twins. I really can't see them as mates since you do't see them cuddle or anything like that the way you do Plato and Victoria or Munkustrap and Demeter or Tuggeer and Bombalurina. 8. How is it possible that Mungojerrie is a calico? Male calicos are genetically impossible! (Sent in by Anonymous) Opinions: Anonymous: Well, I don't think that Jerry is really a calico. He just has many markings. I've seen a male cat in my neighborhood and it just had a lot of colors. Gena: Male calicos aren't impossible to breed, just unlikely. It's yet another helpfull thing in crime, he has the markings just like his sister, you can't tell them apart! Anonymous: Mungojerrie is not a calico! He's a tiger tabby, just like Rumpelteaser. I think the question is, how is Bombalurina red? The color red is geneticely linked to males! Alan: Male calicos (less than 1 in 1000 total calicos) have XXY genotype and are sterile. In breeds that have calicos the hair patterns are coded on the X chromosome, and in females there can be a mixed dominance as some patches of skin code for one pattern and others for the other (random, non-symmetric patches). As most males have only one X chromosome, they have a uniform patterning. Isis: Male calico cats are NOT impossible but they are very rare.If they are born and survive they usually act like slightly masculinized females.Mungo doesn't seem to act like that in the video so I;m guessing that he's not really a calico cat,just kinda looks like one. Grizabella: Of course, he's not a calico, both he and Rumple are tigers! Bronwen: I agree that it's not impossible yet very rare that there are male calico cats but Mungojerrie is NOT a calico and neither is Rumpleteazer. They're probably tiger tabbies. Though I'm sure that Electra is a calico. 9. Do you think Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer REALLY work for Macavity? (Taken from a comment made by David) David: I don't think Mungojerrie and Rumpleteazer work for Macavity. In the fight scene on the video, Mungo tries to fight with Macivity. (But he's beaten easily 'cause Mungo's so weak) 10. Which cats do you think are the older toms, and which are the younger toms? (Taken from a comment made by David) David: The older tom cats are Tugger, Plato, Mungojerrie, Munkustrap, Coricopat, Asparagus, and Skimbleshanks. The young toms are Mistofolees, Pouncival, Tumblebrutus, and Alonzo. 11. Which cats do you think are the queens and which are the kittens? (Taken from a comment made by David David: The older tim cats (female) or queens are Demeter, Jenny, Jellylorum, Bombalurina, Tantomile, Cassandra, and Extocia The younger queens are Victoria, Jemima, Electra, Etcetera, and Rumpleteazer. |