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Riney Sources

Welcome to a page which offers proof of a long Irish presence in the New World contrary to a seemingly popular but distorted slant as to their comings. They say it began with the Famine of the mid 1800s. Irish people have been coming here in one way or another ever since Britain's Empire building days. If one believes Saint Brendan accounting of a voyage taken in the 6th century then Irishmen were here before others claiming to have done so.

Under English control the men of Ireland were obliged to fight with their oppressor neighbour for survival or favor and thus helped England in her thirst for dominion over the world's peoples. Spain and France were also beneficiaries of Irish fighting men who fought with them in hopes of obtaining reciprocal help in liberating Ireland. Irishmen to the tune of 750,000 men died fighting for France. Many of the Irish survivors and the descendents of those who died came to fight in America's cause with Layafette. Be it also understood that Irishmen also fought on the side of England during the American Revolution.

Two hundred years ago, in 1798, Protestant Irishman Wolfe Tone's plea for French help realised a token force but it was too little and too late ending in yet another of Ireland's failed liberation attempts. If the attempt had met with success then the differences that currently exist between Catholics and Protestants in the North of Ireland may never had an opportunity of being exploited. The 1798 Rebellion led to the Act of Union which England smartly put in place to embrace Protestant (Calvinist co-religionists) and branding Catholics as being unworthy of intermingling with royals and such. I guess they had to try something after having experienced the loss of their American colony some 22 years earlier. A loss that both Catholic and Protestant Irishmen contributed to, in large measure. By the way, discriminatory UK laws against Catholics are still on the books to this very day.

Irish Empire

Maryland Colony .. Baltimore County history .. Riney migration with Lord?


The web sites on genealogy in America tend to have a Scotch-Irish bias. Records purporting to be solely theirs are rife with names that are patently those of sons of Erin. One site attempts at a more English-Scotch connection for America's greatness while cunningly trying to relegate contributions of others (we know who they are referring to) as being incapable of industry, stupid is the way I read it.

Slanted and demeaning notions such as these do not make for honest discovery of ancestry. Many of those who view themselves as being of a lower life form start acting out what is expected of them. Some of our people have tried to escape through name changes and by adopting religious beliefs of the controlling group. At this point in history, many of these people have no idea who they really are, they and real WASPs do not wish to be connected in any way or shape with the believers of an unpopular faith that is identified with another empire and time. England's enemies after all subscribed to a Romanist view and that is upsetting I would imagine. I have a sense that I'm correct on this matter. Some months ago I received an email from someone who expressed an eagerness to learn about the Rineys, my return email of explanation as to our origin soured him, is my sense. His English surname interleaved with Rineys in the late 1600s by way of a second marriage.

A distorted notion as to the coming of native Irish to America and the obvious oversight of our contributions to America's founding is a masterful management of an unreality. With this in mind may your quest for ancestry be most exciting and by leaving the chips fall where they may.

Below, a Riney found in Virginia. One who, perhaps, wandered over the border from Maryland. Irish, English, Welsh and French Catholics flowed into Maryland when Lord Baltimore, governed. Protestant Virginians were not too happy having Papists next door to them and demonstrated their unhappiness with attacks on their neighbor. When the Revolution was won these same Catholics who had by now intermarried with each other were obliged to vacate their properties and run for their lives. They did so by fleeing down the Ohio River ending up in states like Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas and so on. The clannishness of these people's descendents whom I had the pleasure of meeting in Owensboro, some years back, was remarkable. I'd imagine that some of those who were unable or unwilling to flee Catholic Maryland underwent name modifications and belief adjustments as well. Being left without a supporting clergy they may have been obliged to fall in line with whatever form of religion that was available to them. People who have undergone trauma tend not to discuss bad times, this was true of the Irish Famine while I was growing up in Ireland. Nobody wished to discuss the Irish Holocaust which fair minded people now realize was an attempt at the extermination of a people. A people made beggardly by confiscation of their lands and then accusing them of being lazy when the blight hit. They who were left with put a patch of the worst soil of their very own properties on which to grow the one and only, potato crop, they were not allowed space to grow anything else. England's extermination efforts helped trigger a mass exodus which helped to populate her territories and those of her surrogates.

CHRONICLES OF THE Scotch-Irish Settlement IN VIRGINIA
EXTRACTED FROM THE ORIGINAL COURT RECORDS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY
                    1745-1800

 ABSTRACTS OF WILLS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY, VIRGINIA. WILL BOOK NO. V.
 ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

 Page 133
  --18th August, 1773. Settlement recorded of 
    Thomas Thompson's estate, Edward Thompson, administrator--To
    paid John Montgomery, William Dougherty, Michael Riney,
    15 gallons liquor for the vendue; Mary Moore. [p.131]

South Kerry, Ireland - since 1600s Riney Families, galore Name's origin - from O'Neill (Ri=king Ney=Neill abbrev.)
Boston, 1764 Riney, Charles Ship Unknown
Boston, 1764 Riney, Catherine Ship Unknown
Virginia - 1776 Rinney?, Patrick
New York Census - 1820 Riney, John 7th Ward NYC
New York Census - 1820 Riney, Anthony 7th Ward NYC
New York Census - 1830 Riney, Henry
New York Census - 1840 Riney, Samuel
New York Census - 1840 Riney, William
"Industry" 1848 Rinesy?, Betty Famine immigrant Sailed from Cork
"M. Hawes" 1848 Riney, William Famine immigrant
"M. Hawes" 1848 Riney, Bridget Famine immigrant
"M. Hawes" 1848 Riney, Mary Famine immigrant
"M. Hawes" 1848 Riney, Ellen Famine immigrant
NY South Census - 1850 Riney, James Greene County
NY South Census - 1850 Riney, James L. Greene County
NY South Census - 1850 Riney, Thomas Ulster County
Missouri Census - 1850 Riney, James born Kentucky

Culled from Web page:

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A Riney Trail

"Irish Settlers in America by O'Brien"

In the southern states many of the pioneer schoolmasters were Irishmen; as for example, the first school in Knoxville, Memphis and Nashville, Tennesse, were taught by Irish immigrant teachers.

An Irishman was president of Kentucky University, and we are told by Ida M. Tarbell in her "Early Life of Abraham Lincoln" that many of the itinerant masters (in Kentucky) were Catholics, strolling Irishmen from the colony of Tennesse.

Master Zachariah Riney (who taught Lincoln .. As a Boy) is referred to as "a man of excellent character, deep piety and fair education."


Lincoln had more interaction with Master Riney than historians would have believe. Riney owned a farm adjacent to the Hanks, the family of Abe's mother.

Rineyville, Kentucky was not named for Zachariah Riney but was instead named for his son on whose property it was located on.

U.S. History Docs ... Gaelic ... Riney ???

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