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FILE 7 of 15 - CompuServe Astral Projection Class by Don DeGracia, 1994

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Astral Projection Class on CompuServe

by Don DeGracia: 72662,1335

Copyright 1994

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1. IN THE OOBE REALM - PART 1

 

We have discussed the theory of astral projection. We have

discussed methods and techniques for achieving this altered state

of consciousness. Now we are going to discuss what it is like in the

realm where the OOBE occurs. To some extent we have touched on

the nature of the OOBE realm throughout these notes. We have, for

example discussed the occult notions of the planes and the subplanes.

I have also presented some of my astral projection journal entries

and these give an idea of what it is actually like in the OOBE realm.

 

What we will do in this section is go into much more depth

about the various aspects of actually being in the OOBE state.

My description of this state will encompass two broad angles.

On one hand I will take a kind of "travel brochure" approach to

describing the places and inhabitants one encounters during an

OOBE. This is the approach one will find in many books about the

astral plane (for example, see Leadbeater's "The Astral Plane"

listed in the bibliography). Such a "travel brochure" approach

describes the astral plane much as if it's a foreign land filled

with exotic sights, scenes and inhabitants. On the other hand, I

also want to try to convey some sense of what it is *really* like

when you are out of your body. One of the problems with the "travel

brochure" approach to describing the OOBE realm is that it

creates the misleading impression that you have simply just

"gone somewhere". That is, "travel brochure" type descriptions

of the astral plane make it sound like you just get in your car and

drive there and see the sights, as if it's Disneyland or something.

However, when you are out of body, it is NOT like getting in your

car and driving somewhere new and seeing the sights. You are

in a completely different state of consciousness - you are

no longer in the physical world - and this creates a million

subtle nuances in your awareness that make it much, much different

than how your awareness operates while you are here in the

physical plane. What I would like to do then is try to convey

some of these differences in how your consciousness works when

you are in the OOBE realm. So, overall, I will describe the OOBE

realm BOTH as a place you go to AND as a state of consciousness very

different than (but related to) your normal consciousness.

 

 

1. Describing OOBEs with words

 

Before I get too deep in describing the OOBE realm, something

has to be said about the limitations of using words to describe

experiences in the OOBE realm. In general, our language is very

poor at describing astral plane experiences. This is no surprise

given that we use language overwhelmingly to describe life here in

the physical plane. However, experience is much different in the

OOBE state. There are many things that can occur in the OOBE state

that our language has no words to describe. Obviously then, this

creates quite a problem when we want to write about or speak

about our astral projection experiences! So what are we to do?

 

First thing to do is realize that the problems with trying

to describe OOBEs in words is very similar to the problems we have

describing our dreams in words. Very often strange things happen

to us in our dreams and we have a very hard time describing them.

For example, we have all had the experience in a dream of being, say,

in a house and walking from one part of the house to another but

all of a sudden finding ourself in the supermarket or some such thing!

We went to walk into the kitchen, but we find ourselves somewhere

completely different and no longer in the house! This has happened to

me a lot in my dreams and all of you can probably recall such

things happening in your own dreams. The thing is, what do you

call it when this happens? It's happened to all of us in a dream,

but we have no word for it! Shall we say, "I *blipped* from the

house to the supermarket"? Or, "I disappeared from the house but

suddenly appeared in the supermarket"? Robert Monroe would say

he "skipped" from the house to the supermarket.

 

Now, the point is, this is something that has happened to all of

us, yet we have no word to describe it. And I picked this particular

example of "blipping" because you will find yourself "blipping"

quite a bit when you are in the OOBE realm. But, what do we call

this? How do we describe it?

 

Basically, we are left with a real problem. Our language has

no *consensus* terms to describe such experiences. Thus, our

only solution is to make up a word to describe the experience.

This is why I use terms like "lockmold", "void" or "blinking

on and off" in my journal, because I am making up words to

describe experiences for which our language has no word, and

even more importantly, for which there is no counterpart

in our physical experience.

 

What all this means is that you really have to be careful when

reading about people's experiences in the OOBE realm. If you

try to interpret these experiences in terms of physical experience

or in terms of our normal everyday language, you will get a very

INACCURATE picture of what is going on. You also have to be a

careful reader when reading of the OOBE realm. You have to

really use your imagination and attempt to understand what

stange words like "ring" or "lockmold" could mean, and why the

author is describing his/her experience in that fashion. Finally,

you have to be open to the fact that anything is possible in the OOBE

realm. So many strage things can occur there that are completly

different than what we know here in physical life, that you just

have to keep a very open mind.

 

 

 

2. The State Of Your Mind In The OOBE State

 

So, not only does our language create a barrier to under-

standing the nature of the OOBE realm, but we are faced with a second

major obstacle in understanding the OOBE state. As I said above,

during an OOBE YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT IS

IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD. Remember, I have defined OOBEs/astral

projections/lucid dreams as a state in which you take your waking

personality into the dream world. However, in actual fact, during

any OOBE you never take your waking self 100% into the dream world.

Instead you take some PORTION of it into the dream world. In effect,

when you project you are MIXING YOUR WAKING PERSONALITY WITH YOUR DREAM

PERSONALITY. And this is why your consciousness is not exactly the same

as it is when you are awake here in this world. Not only are you

in a realm that is completely foreign to you, but you are never

wholly you over there. Believe me, this is very true, and it creates

very subtle changes in your reactions, thoughts and emotional responses

to what you experience in the OOBE realm and how you behave there.

This is all I'm going to say about your state of mind during

an OOBE for now. As I go more into specific things below, we

will have occasion to see the subtle differences in awareness

that occur during an OOBE. Right now I am only drawing your

attention to this fact. After I go into more detail about

other aspects of the OOBE realm, we will at the very end of these

notes come back to this topic. For after all, aside from actually

learning how to get there, the actual state of your consciousness

during an OOBE is the most important thing there is - for this is

the meat and potatoes of it all: you are experiencing a completely

different state of consciousness! Think about it.

 

 

 

3. The OOBE World: Objective or Subjective?

 

Now, we have one last consideration before I start describing

what happens during an OOBE. I've already stated that during an

OOBE your personality is "outside" of you and that subjective

things can be completely real and objective in the OOBE realm.

What this means is we are left with a weird problem when trying

to understand experiences in the OOBE realm. Basically, is it real

or is it merely subjective fantasy? Well, we could debate whether

OOBEs are objective or subjective experiences till we are blue

in the face. It doesn't matter if, in some abstract sense, the

OOBE realm is objective or subjective. What matters is that when

you astral project, it WILL BE COMPLETELY REAL TO YOU. Like I said,

it will be YOU, and you will be SOMEWHERE, doing SOMETHING. Whether

it's all occurring in your imagination or not is beside the point.

 

However, what is critically important for you to keep in mind

when you astral project is that YOU CANNOT ASSUME THAT WHAT YOU

EXPERIENCE IS OBJECTIVE AND NEITHER CAN YOU ASSUME IT IS PURELY

SUBJECTIVE. Whatever the nature of the OOBE experience, you

will be somewhere where the subjective can become objective and the

objective can become subjective.

 

 

 

4. The Dweller At The Threshold

 

The above discussion leads me now to share with you information

that was very important to me when I first started projecting. I

had a book by an author whose name I think was Sepherial. I can't

even remember anymore, it's been so long since I've seen this book,

which I gave to a friend years ago. At any rate, this book was about

how to become an occultist. The first important thing Sepherial said

you have to do to become a worthwhile occultist is to overcome fear.

He said that you overcome fear by studying it. As you learn what

causes you to fear things, you can overcome these fears. He even

pointed out that if you carefully observe yourself when you get

afraid, you will notice that fear begins as a kind of tighening in

your chest by your heart. The tightening begins at your heart

and then spreads from there down to your gut and into your arms and

legs. Frankly, once I started watching myself get afraid, I was

really surprised to see that he was correct.

Sepherial went on to explain how it's really important to realize

that fear is something we create in our own minds and that if we are

to get involved in occult things, we must learn NOT to fear things

anymore. You can replace fear with understanding. When you under-

stand something, you no longer need to fear it. If it is truly a

dangerous thing, but you understand it, you will not fear it, you

will avoid and respect it. And there are other things we fear that,

in reality, are not dangerous things. These are the worst kinds

of fear for an occultist to have. These are fears you have created

in your own mind, for whatever reasons. These fears are like weeds

that grow in the garden of your mind, and you should eliminate these.

Well, this was my first lesson in occultism. I read Sepherial's

book at about the same time I started astral projecting. I took

Sepherial's advice to heart, and it was a good thing too because my

first few times astral projecting were lessons in overcoming

fear.

 

There are two types of fear I have experienced astral projecting.

It is possible that you may experience these types of fear too, so I

will explain them for you.

The first type of fear is completely harmless. My very first

astral projections occurred spontaneously about 5 years before I

even realized they were astral projections. At the time, I thought

they were merely strange dreams. In retrospect, they were

definitely astral projections. What had happened is that I had

laid down to nap. Next thing I knew I was spinning around the

ceiling of my bedroom! I was amazed. I didn't have the slightest

idea what was happening to me, and what was even weirder was that

I was completely terrified. I was scared to death. But it was a

very strange sensation; I was afraid, but I had no reason to be afraid,

in spite of the fact that I was mysteriously spinning around on

my ceiling! Mostly I was extremly curious as to what was happening

to me and my experience turned into a contest between my fear

and my curiosity. Finally, after about 30 seconds of this, my fear

won, and the next thing I knew I was sitting awake in bed. I was

not afraid at all when I woke but I was just very curious. My second

projection was identical to this and happened around the same

time the first one did (I was about 15 years old when this occurred).

I promptly forgot these experiences till many years later.

I was 22 years old when I learned about astral projecting.

Eventually it occurred to me that maybe those experiences I had years

before were astral projections. If this was the case, that I had

actually astral projected before, then this meant I could probably do it

again. And it was then that I consciously started to astral project.

When I first started projecting, I used the trance method I described

above. Actually, I made up this method as I went along. Originally,

I would lay in bed and simply tell myself I was going to astral

project as I drifted off to sleep at night. After a number of

attempts at this, it worked! I became conscious of myself AFTER

I had fallen asleep! And, just like years before, I felt that same

feeling of terror, and, as before, there was absolutely no reason

for this feeling. I got this same feeling of fear on my next two

attempts as well, but on my third attempt, it was gone, and it has

never returned.

I don't know what this feeling of fear was. As I said,

it was just there on my first few attempts, then it went away. I

have a friend who is also a competent astral projector and he said a

similar thing happened to him. I have always suspected that this

feeling of fear had something to do with separating my consciousness

from my body, as if it was a purely instinctive response of my awareness

to operating without using my physical body. But once I got used

to the sensation of being out-of-body, the fear response just went away.

Again, I think this may be some type of PURELY HARMLESS instinct

that occurs soley because of dissociating your awareness from its

body.

It's important to point out that you may never experience this

type of a fear response. In the time I have been on CompuServe, I have

spoken with a number of very good astral projectors and they have never

reported this response. Still, I have had it and so has my friend,

so I am describing it here so that if it happens to you, you will

know what is going on. If, the first time you leave your body,

you feel complete terror for no reason at all, then you are having

this reaction. Don't let it bother you because it will go away

after your first few times out-of-body.

 

Ok, now for the second type of fear that I have had to deal

with in my astral projections. Very early in my projection experiences

I went through something I call my "Darkside Episodes". These were

absolutely terrifying experiences for me too, but unlike those

described above, there WAS a reason for my fear and terror.

Here are excerpts from my DarkSide experiences:

 

1>

 

"All I can remember now is that somehow I left my body, or

became lucid in the dream state, whichever you prefer...

(I went though a number of experiences, then...)

...Somehow that I can't now recall, I was outside my body again.

This time I was standing in my bedroom. I was surprised because

it seemed to be daytime outside, but I knew it was nighttime and

that I was actually sleeping on my bed. I noticed that where my

west wall normally was that there was another room beyond it,

like the wall had disappeared and there was this room there

instead. I floated into the room and could look into my bedroom.

I noticed that I had hands and arms and legs and that I was

floating a foot or so off the ground. I was moving my body around

just marvelling in the sensation of my lucidity. I began to feel

elated. I started to call out and experienced the same thing that

happened the other night. I could hear my voice in my mind and it

sounded perfectly normal, but when I actually tried to talk, it

came out in slow motion.

I was really feeling great and had been playing with these things

for a few moments when all of a sudden I began to feel trepid and

a little paranoid. It felt like I was being watched. I looked up

into my room and saw a tall dark figure standing in my window. My

windows were open as if they were doors and this figure was standing

there on the windowsill looking at me. I didn't know what to think

at first. The figure was of a male, tall and skinny, and pitch black,

more like a silhouette than anything else. I'd have thought it was a

shadow except it had these vivid evil looking completely red eyes.

It didn't have pupils or anything, just these evil looking eye slits

that were totally red. At first I thought it couldn't see me, but as

if in response to my thought, it turned and stared directly at me.

Then I became afraid. I didn't know what I should do. It slowly

seemed to move towards me, and I made my way back to my bed,

thinking that I should jump back into my body and wake up. I

hovered over to my bed and this thing was slowly coming at me.

Then I remembered something from one of the first occult books that

I had ever read [This is the Sepherial book I'm referring to here].

In this book the author gave a magic phrase for the student to say

to protect himself from evil forces. The author claimed that it

was a very potent spell from the times of ancient Atlantis. The

spell was in some unknown language and I didn't know what it meant,

but at the time I had memorized it [though I no longer remember

it], and it seemed like now was as good a time as any to use it!

So I repeated the spell in my mind and the wildest things happened.

I was surprised as **** that it worked! At least it did something,

for now I was laying half way out of my body, the dark figure had

disappeared, and now there was this, what seemed to me to be like

a very fake looking mannequin up over me. It had the face of a

cartoon alligator and I was biting its arm, but it looked just like

a mannequin and wasn't doing anything. It had a stupid, goofy look

on its face.

But I was panicking, attacking its arm and trying like hell to

wake myself up. I kept trying to shake myself, thinking that if

I could move my body then I'd wake up. The strangest thing happened.

As I shook myself, I could feel myself "sink" into my physical body,

and weird as this sounds I could see two distinct visual fields at

once. They didn't overlap though, one was on top of the other, as

if my visual field were cut in two. The top one was my visual field

in my projection of my day lit bedroom, and the bottom field was my

dark bedroom at night. There was even a definite line of demarcation

between the two view fields. My vision was literally split in

half! It was the absolutely strangest sensation! And as I struggled

to shake myself, I could feel myself pull down to the lower view of

my bedroom, and the top view seemed to go up and out of my visual

field. But then I would relax momentarily and I would start to rise

up, just like when one is under water and starts to float toward the

surface, and I was being pulled back up into the top scene. Then

I would begin to struggle and shake myself again, and pull back down.

This happened about four times; I would think that I was out of the

top view and begin to relax and quit shaking and rocking myself, and

the moment I would stop, I would feel myself being pulled back into

the top visual field. I was scared as hell and thought I was

trapped. Finally though, I shook and shook and shook myself and

I actually woke up.

I was laying still on my bed. For all the shaking and moving I was

doing, I thought when I awoke that my body would be moving around as

much. But it wasn't; it was very still. I laid there scared as hell.

I had the strangest paranoia that at any moment something evil was

going to jump out of my walls and stab me to death, the same feeling

I felt before. I didn't know what had just happened to me. Who the

hell was that dark figure? For some reason it really spooked me bad."

(END OF ENTRY)

 

Well, that was my Darkside experience. I was very scared after

that. I was afraid to project even. Was that thing going to always

come and haunt me in my projections? What was it?

Again, I turned to my friend who could also astral project.

We discussed my experience. After thinking about it for a week

or so, I came to the conclusion that the Darkside was me! I

figured that maybe what was happening is that somehow, everything

that was bad about me appeared OUTSIDE OF ME in my projections.

Maybe this thing was just all my own badness embodied as a being

coming to haunt me in the astral projection state. Whether this

is true or not, this is what I decided to believe. And since it

was me, then I really didn't have to fear it, because that would

mean I was afraid of myself! So I decided that what I should do

is become more aware of all my badness and quit being that way,

then, maybe this thing would go away. And I figured that if I

met this Darkside in my projections again, then I would confront

it instead of being afraid of it. I would stand up to it, and

battle it if I had to.

So, that's what I decided. Here's what happened the next time

I projected:

 

2>

 

"I know I went to sleep with the intent to project. Since

my "darkside" episode, I was leary to project again, but now I

felt that I understood what this being was and I felt confident

to face it if I needed to.

(I went though some other adventures, then...)

I was back in my bedroom again, still lucid in the projection

state. I noticed that it was daytime outside, though I also knew I

was sleeping in my bed and it was really night on the physical plane.

But then I noticed that there was a doorway in my bedroom wall, one

that was not there physically. So I went through the door and

began to explore.

The doorway lead into a castle and I was very surprised by this.

I remember thinking to myself that rooms have all these hidden

directions in them in the astral plane. It was a huge and elegantly

decorated place and the decor looked fairly modern. I wandered

about and eventually came to a room that had a window that was

overlooking a long shingled roof. I climbed through the window

and there was a girl outside on the roof. It was sunny outside

and I felt very good. Me and the girl talked, but I do not remember

what we talked about. I could see around me outside, what

looked like a fairly typical, though completely unfamiliar,

neighborhood and I was curious to explore it. I went to fly off

the roof but my lockmold began to weaken and I blacked out.

I was back in my bedroom again, still lucid in the dream state.

The doorway to the castle was still there, but this time there

was a pitch black figure sitting crumpled on the floor at the

end of my bed. It was the darkside! I became leary and slightly

scared, but I remembered my resolve to confront it. Also, this

time it looked feeble, sitting in a heap at the foot of my bed,

almost like a mannequin. I approached it slowly saying, "What do you

want from me? Who are you? Are you me? I love you." My fear was

quickly diminishing as I approached it, but it did not move. It

seemed dead. I grabbed it by the head and looked directly into

its face, all the while telling it "I love you." Its face was

utterly lifeless, its eyes dried out gaping holes. I clenched

its head and crushed it like a dried out husk, all the while

yelling at it, telling it I loved it. I crushed its head

completely to dust, knowing that this was only the embodiment

of my inability to look squarely at myself. This was all my

fear, all my hatred, all my self-hate and I was crushing it to

dust and a great joy filled me. I kicked the lifeless heap and

felt a triumphant sense run through me. My darkside was dead!

I became like a little child and ran through the door into the

castle, running about hooting and hollering, excited with the

thrill of my victory.

I ran back into my bedroom still elated and making much noise.

The crumbled figure was still there and I looked at it with utter

disregard. "You're dead," I was yelling at it, and I was jumping

up and down yahooing...."

 

(END OF ENTRY)

 

 

So, that's how that situation worked itself out! Reading this

now, I almost seem neurotic in this projection. But think of it:

how would you feel? You learn to project only to have your new found

ability foiled by some pitch black terror? No way!

Given the fact that I have never since encountered this

Darkside during a projection, or anything like it, I take it to

mean that I was correct. This Darkside I encountered in my earliest

projections was all the bad in me coming to haunt me while I was

out-of-body. THIS is one among a few experiences I have had

that makes me warn you that when you project, things that are

inside you on the physical plane (i.e. subjective things) appear

to be outside of you on the astral plane (i.e. objective things).

A year after my darkside experience, I was surprised to

read in a Manly Hall book about a thing called "The Dweller

on the Threshold". Manly Hall described this "Dweller" as the

very first thing waiting on the path to greet the aspiring

occultist. He essentially described this Dweller to be exactly

what I realized my Darkside to be: all of the badness in ones

personality manifested as a being. So, basically, I quite

literally met the Dweller on my threshold very shortly after

I learned how to leave my body. Manly Hall's book was also

a warning to the aspiring occultist that you must overcome fear

and ignorance, and seek self-insight and seek the good inside your

self and weed out the bad.

Now, the important question of course is: will this happen to

you? Will you learn to enter the OOBE state only to meet your

"Dweller on the Threshold"? Well, again, I have spoken with a

number of projectors here on CompuServe who have never had this

experience. I do not know if you will encounter such an

embodiment of the bad in your personality when you learn to

leave your body. We all grow and mature in different ways.

It is very easy to realize that not everybody needs to go through

such an experience in the OOBE state. But will you? I don't know.

You won't know either until you are out there. I share this

experience with you just in case it does happen to you. I share

this so that you will know what that figure is and how to get rid

of it. It is you, and by opening up to what that figure stands

for you will get rid of it. Any "Dweller on the Threshold"

is that kind of fear I mentioned above, the kind that is not

caused by real danger but is created in your imagination, for

whatever reason. Look at that fear, try to understand it, and

you will have conquered your Dweller on the Threshold.

Again, to drive the point home, there is a very strong

element of self-therapy to the OOBE state, and the above is

a very definite example of this. Like I said, you must appreciate

that subjective and objective things turn into each other

in the OOBE realm.

 

 

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