This was a Red and White very strong sire. He would not back down from a challenge. Boe had bred and raised 'Odie'. Boe still promotes 'Odies' blood lines because he fells that there isn't a better proven producer. Even though he was a long haired dog, he did produce slick hairs. If you are looking for a good cross on your females that will throw r/w, slick haired, and tough dogs- this is a good line to keep in your genetics.