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HATE MAIL MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE RECEIVED - PART II

by Elsie Hamer

(Note: The following Email may be from a fanatical, extremist cult (which we have studied extensively) in the Oregon area. Notice that they want us to simply shut down our website. This is typical of the cult. They love to burn books and deny Christians like Caleb and I who bring education and truth to the internet.

We believe that they are spoonfed pulpit babies who never study or even own a Bible. They take their leader's word for everything, are NOT Pentecostal tongue speaking Christians and they believe in flying saucers and that human beings are really hybrid space aliens.

We don't know if we can blame them. They have probably have never left their small backwoods community and have little or no knowledge of the world around them.)

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Dear Elsie and Caleb,

Let me begin by saying that this is not a piece of hate mail and is far from it.

First let me say that you are a disgrace to the Christian Religion and its belief system. Your ideas are so twisted and ignorant that I must say that you are quite obviously some very over zealous hypocrites.

It is internet sites like yours that do no good in helping to better the world but rather tear down the ideas, values and beliefs that embody the greatest points of Christianity.

Do you believe that an atheist that was to view your site would be any more adept to wanting to give his life to the lord because what you've written, definitely not. The things that you have published on your site are so radically wrong that I can't help but believe that the lord frowns upon your actions.

I ask you very kindly now to shut down your site and keep it that way as to not corrupt the souls of any else who may view it.

In addition I ask that you take a look at what you have done and what you are doing with your lives and give yourselves an honest introspection, please get some help.

I am a Christian that has given my life to god and as such I do not hate you but wish to instead help you, and in the end keep you from destroy yourselves with the very falsehoods that you have given life to.

I have no doubt that you receive e-mails like this all of the time, please for your own good take this one seriously. Please do not reply to this letter as I cannot stand to intake any more of your asinine rational.

BS

How do I Prepare for His Arrival? Will not masturbating help me? How so? I didn't know it was evil and I have been doing it since i was a little girl. I guess I do need help. I didn't think I was a bad person. What should I do guys? What's going to happen when he comes down? He is going to be mad at us? Are the demons going to come down with him to abolish all the bad people. I'm scared. Help me.

Person in distress over your message.

You f**king dumb ass. I hope you're not serious
you are crazy
You're a f**king crackhead, you know that? Did you even READ my entry? And Jesus ISN'T coming soon.
It is unfortunate that you have such a vehement yet errant message. Because I have an opposing view to yours and you believe in your rhetoric so strongly and are possibly so repressed I imagine it would be extremely difficult for you to consider a relatively obvious fact.

The act of masturbating is not the determining factor in the goodness of a man nor woman. How one resolves internal conflict and carries or sheds emotional baggage in their relations with fellow humans is of much greater consequence. Masturbation, like many other sexual activities is a highly charged emotional activity. It is human nature to have and express these emotions. Should they be repressed or assigned a negative consequence a negative emotional experience is created.

On the other hand, were we to accept our own emotions and embrace them, talk and share them in a spirit of acceptance and love then surely we would walk a path of righteousness and joy. Sounds a lot more like a message Jesus would embrace? No?

I have no right to pass judgement on what situation you have experienced to bring about your extreme views. But keep in mind that while you struggle so hard to send a message of control of sin you only perpetuate self loathing. Bacon on your genitals!

Ha ha. I get it, your site is a joke. Very funny! keep up the good work!

Masturbation is GREAT!!!

F**k you and your anti-masturbation website. You are the nastiest looking whore I have ever seen in my entire life.

When you and your husband have sex, does he put a bag over your head or does he just wear a blindfold?

Anyhow, f**k you and I hope to see you in hell. So I can masturbate with you.

You're both f**king crackheads and your webpage is pointless ass bulls**t. You shouldn't be allowed to publish or even SPEAK to the outside world.

I swear, people who post non-sense "I'm gonna save the world , by God's name!" hypocritical, fascist horse piss on the internet f**king make me sick. You manage to help LOWER everyone's usually alreay sadly low I.Q. Just shut the f**k up already.

Good job, f**kface.
J

Elsie,
Thank you so much..... As a result of your web site I have stopped abusing myself and was able to find the time to put money down on a lottery ticket.

I was spending £20.00 a month on porn mags and I then spent it on lottery tickets as I had no need for this vile filth anymore.... Well I have this week won £11,000,000 as the jackpot and I wish to send a cheque for £6,000,000 to you and Caleb to develop your Church over here ....

I am of course concerned that this money has been gained via gambling and you may not want to accept money gained via such evil means ....But if I were to donate more than %50 to your Church would God forgive me ? If not I am going to burn the cheque amnd go back to my life on the streets .... At least then I know I would have a place in heaven when I do die ....

NOTE - OF COURSE WE REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE MONEY! IT WAS MONEY GOTTEN BY GAMBLING AND IS THE DEVIL'S MONEY. WE WILL NOT TOUCH IT. EVER!

Elsie

Very funny, just reading about it made me horney as hell, now I have to go and polish the pope, spank the monkey, wack it off, toss off a load etc.... I particularly liked the part about masturbating with a partner of the opposite sex, I believe your talking about consensual sex... A great idea....got to go do the deed now!!!

hey, I just wanted to let you and your husband know that your webpage about the Cathoclic Church has got to one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. I am not a Catholic and I'm not defending Catholics, but I will say you made some pretty grandiose errors. Ok, what are you trying to prove, the Pope is gay? "His name is Karol, that's a girl's name" CAROL is a girl's name in English. Karol, with a K, is the Polish form of Carl, which is a guy's name. "No wonder he changed his name to Paul"... um, the Pope's NAME is not Paul, it's Pope John Paul. and "John Paul" is a title not a name. But you probably don't even know what a title is.

And "the Pope is always wearing dresses"? Those aren't dresses, you moron, they're robes. The pope is probably wearing pants under them. My Lord, what are you suggesting that the pope is a transvestite?

oh, and where in the Bible does it say not to wear jewelry or makeup, "the exception is eyeshadow" you claim. So did God come down and tell you that eyeshadow is ok but all other makeup is sinful? Whatever! And as for jewelry being sinful, do you wear a wedding ring? Or did Caleb not buy you one?

You people need serious help. You're both on the right track, but you have a really skewed vision of Christianity. Get some counseling. Write back if you're not a COWARD (as you like to put it)

hahahaha!! how long did it take to make that? you two are funny as hell! I am most definately not an idiot compared to you two, but it's ok you can think that. I'm sure you both got great satisfaction out of that.

that page really made my day. Seriously, that was some funny shit.

hey, I'm judging by your photos you two haven't had sex in a while, huh? lol c ya around losers

So tell me can you do a thing for yourself without your husband in on it? You can't even insult me without his name on it too.

And what leads you to believe I am an idiot like your little link says I am? Simply because I do not agree with you? I have news for you. The only idiot here is the grown woman who can't seem to think for herself and basically lets her husband live her life for her.

He compared you to a whore because you liked to wear makeup and look pretty? Sorry, but last time I checked the year is 2001, not 1941. What makes you believe that we as women have less of a right to be happy in our lives? Oh that's right, your husband.

I find it unbelieveable that God would put us on this earth simply to be a sperm recepticle, cook and maid for men.

As far as me being an unbeliever...that is where you are wrong. I believe in Jesus Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit. I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs. I am married and am happily faithful to my husband. I go to church. I just find it hard to believe that a woman nowadays would let her husband tell her where to go what to wear and when to pee. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Oh and how is this for a fright? My mother is a minister. Put that in your crackpipe and smoke it.

Have a nice day.

Those who take life too seriously are doomed to repeat it.

okay if i can't masturbate, what about premarital sex? is that okay? i sure hope it is because i've been doing it for the last 5 years with all different kinds of girls. i've almost forgot how many. and i can't really remember all the names.

does that mean that i'm going to hell? as a matter of fact me and my girlfriend did it last night. are we both going to hell?

Dear Mr. Hamer & Mrs. Elsie,

Let me start off by saying, "Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone!"

God does loves everyone weather you keep reading about it, if you start nit-picking then pretty soon you could say God hates African-American's, Asian's, and Latinos.

And not everybody is born gay. I do have to agree with you God created Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve. I do not disagree that it is a sin. You have given this a lot of thought about how men kiss each other and other extra curricular activities they par-take in.

If you go on and say that San Francisco would be a dead city then we might as well condemn the whole world it doesn’t matter if it is San Francisco or St. Louis, New York City, London, Paris, Beijing, or Sidney.

Your home town I am sure has a homosexual living in your town, and executing them isn't going to be an answer, I am sure God is looking down on what you have put in your web-site, and sending them to an Island isn't going to be and answer.

I am 19 years old, straight I have a girlfriend, and studying to be a Concert Pianist and Music Teacher she is studying to be a Concert Cellist we are both Christian and I have a couple gay friends and there some of the nicest people you could find, there my age and we all go to the movies or to a concert.

They are born gay; maybe if you would study chemistry and biology, and anatomy you would understand. It is a chemical imbalance in their body, and there is no cure for it. And if you start to study AIDS and HIV are the same disease and if you research it you will find that straight people have also acquired the disease through other straight people.

I don't understand why you feel this way about it. E-mail me with a response please.

Confused why you feel this way.

You must feel real good about yourself, don't ya f**khead? You like being told off? Is that why you do stupid shit like that? Are a glutton for punishment? Ya know, gluttony is one of the seven deadly sins right? I just wanted to make sure you knew and all..you seem to be so lacking in the mental developement area. I just had to make sure you knew one of the guidelines of your ruined-face, piss for wine, bulls**t religion. Remember children, in doing what you do, you just make all the rest of us laugh harder. Good job.





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