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Welcome to (Frequently Asked) Questions

This page contains answers to common questions asked at the INA classes in Sydney, 
along with some tips and tricks and extra information that you might find useful.

  1. How do I get a fada (long sign) on my vowel?
  2. How do I get a ponc (dot) on my consonant?
  3. Where can I learn the Irish language and Irish set dancing  in Sydney's inner city?
  4. When I tell people that I'm learning Irish, they say, "Don't you mean Gaelic?" 
    What is the difference between Irish and Gaelic?
  5. What does it mean when people say languages are related? How are Irish and English related?
 

How do I get a fada (long sign) on my vowel?

If you're using Microsoft Word: 
Our friends at Cumann Gaeilge na hAstráile in Melbourne have some useful suggestions 
for typing special characters on their help page: My keyboard has no fada!

If you're not using Microsoft Word:
You might try using the ASCII keystrokes. They are cumbersome, but useful for 
messenger services, chat rooms, e-mail, and so on. 
You can see them in the bottom-right corner of Windows Character Map

Try this to get the character you need...

Hold down the [Alt] key, and type one of these four-letter codes:

á 0225 é 0233 í 0237 ó 0234 ú 0250
Á 0193 É 0201 Í 0205 Ó 0211 Ú 0218
 
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How do I get a ponc (dot) on my consonant?

Go to the Toolbox, and then download a font you like that has pointed consonant letters. 
Use Windows Character Map, or similar program to find the characters you need. 
They all have ASCII keystroke codes, similar to the ones above. 

Be aware that other people also have to have the same or very similar font 
to see the special characters.

 
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Where can I learn the Irish language and Irish set dancing 
in Sydney's inner city?

The INA hosts free Irish language classes on Monday nights from 6:00-8:00PM.

Irish set dancing classes follow afterwards from 8:30-10:30PM
The set dancing classes are $3 per person per evening.

The classes are held at:

Level 1 (that's the top floor!), 64 Devonshire St 
SURRY HILLS NSW 2010 
Next door to the Madison hotel, right opposite the tunnel entrance to Central Station.

Contact information is on the Fáilte page.

 
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When I tell people I'm learning Irish, they say, "Don't you mean Gaelic?"  What is the difference between Irish and Gaelic?

The term Irish refers to the Irish language, which is spoken in Ireland 
and throughout the world today.

The term Gaelic can mean two things:

  • The (Scots) Gaelic language, spoken in Scotland and around the world today
  • The Gaelic group of languages, all descended from Old Irish (c.400-900CE), include:

    Irish (Gaelic)

    (Scots) Gaelic

    Manx (Gaelic)

    (The words in brackets are optional - 
    only used to distinguish the languages from each other.) 

The Gaelic of languages are closely related to the Brythonic languages: Welsh and Breton, 
which originated on the island of Britain and are now spoken mainly in Wales and Brittany 
respectively.

The Gaelic (or Goidelic) languages and the Brythonic languages make up the Celtic branch or 
sub-family of the Indo-European language family. The Celts were among the first Indo-European tribes to move into Western Europe after the last Ice Age, gradually over the 
period between nine thousand and three thousand years ago. 

Before the the Roman Empire was established, Celtic languages were spoken across Europe 
from Ireland to Turkey. In Julius Caesar's time, the Britons of Britain (the ancestors of the Welsh) 
and the Gauls of France spoke almost the same language and could understand each 
other. Many European cities today still bear Celtic names, such as Paris, Milan and Vienna.

English belongs to the Western group of the Teutonic branch. The Teutonic tribes moved 
into Northern and Central Europe, settling in Scandinavia and the Baltic and North Sea coasts, 
and reaching south to the Alps. The Western Teutonic languages also include:

  • Scots (Lallans)

  • Dutch

  • Low German

  • Frisian

  • Flemish

  • High German

  • Afrikaans

  • Yiddish

  •  Luxembourgian

The Northern group of the Teutonic sub-family, includes the Scandinavian languages:

  • Norwegian

  • Danish

  • Faroese

  • Icelandic

  • Swedish

The map below shows the general distribution of Celtic (Gaelic and Brythonic groups) 
and Teutonic (Western and Northern groups) in north-western Europe:

 

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What does it mean when people say that languages are related?

How are Irish and English related?

A language family is a group of languages that have been proven to have descended from a common ancestral language. Branches of families likewise represent groups of languages with a more recent common ancestor. For example, English, Dutch, and German have a common ancestor, which we label Proto-West-Germanic, and thus belong to the West Germanic branch of Germanic. Icelandic and Norwegian are descended from Proto-North Germanic, a separate branch of Germanic. All the Germanic languages have a common ancestor, Proto-Germanic; farther back, this ancestor was descended from Proto-Indo-European, as were the ancestors of the Italic, Slavic, and other branches.

Not all languages are known to be related to each other. It is possible that they are related but the evidence of relationship has been lost; it's also possible they arose separately. It is likely that some families will eventually turn out to be related to one another.

 

INDO-EUROPEAN family

Based on language comparisons and re-construction, it would appear that the Indo-Europeans lived in a cold northern region, that it was not near the water but among forests, that they raised such domestic animals as the sheep, the dog, the cow and the horse, and that among wild animals they knew the bear and the wolf, that among metals they probably knew only copper.

The general consensus is that the original Indo-European civilisation developed somewhere in Eastern Europe before 3000 BCE. About 2500 BCE it broke up; the people left their homeland and migrated in many different directions. Some moved into Greece, others made their way into Italy, others moved through Central Europe until they made their way into Britain and Ireland. Wherever they settled, the Indo-Europeans appear to have overcome the existing population and imposed their language on them.

 

Celtic

The Celts were among the first Indo-Europeans to migrate from the eastern homeland across Western Europe, eventually occupying the Iberian peninsula and Britain and Ireland by the 5th century BCE. In the last few centuries BCE, three Celtic languages dominated the European mainland: Gaulish (France and northern Italy), Celtiberian (Spain and Portugal) and Galatian (Turkey). Eventually, they all succumbed to the might of Latin. Today, only two Celtic subgroups survive in coastal pockets of Europe’s far west.

The original Gaelic (Goidelic) speakers were the Irish, probably the first Celts to arrive in Britain and Ireland around 600 BCE. Around the 5th century CE, Gaelic-speaking Irish colonists settled the Isle of Man and Scotland, assimilating the indigenous Picts.

The Brythonic Celts, (or Britons), followed the Irish into Britain in the first few centuries BCE. Their tongue remained so similar to Continental Gaulish that it was considered the same language up until the Roman occupation. Invading Germanic tribes in the 5th century CE, then pressed the Britons to Britain’s peripheries: southern Scotland, Wales, Devon and Cornwall.

For several centuries, Britons also escaped the Saxon trespass by migrating back to the continent, south to Brittany in France, where Breton is still spoken today. 

 

Germanic (Teutonic) group

It is generally assumed that by the first century BCE, Germanic peoples speaking a fairly uniform language lived on both sides of the North and Baltic seas. The West Germanic tribes settled between the Elbe and Oder rivers and it is here that the German language gradually evolved. The East Germanic tribes settled east of the Oder River, but their languages have long since become extinct. In Scandinavia, the North Germanic tribes spoke a language we now call Old Norse, the ancestor of the modern Scandinavian languages. In the 5th century CE, three West Germanic tribes, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, crossed the North Sea into Britain, bringing with them a language that would later be known as English. And in the 9th century, Old Norse was carried far westward to Iceland.

Yiddish developed first as a dialect of German spoken among the Jewish communities in Central Europe during the Middle Ages. Now it is spoken mostly as a community language in New York City and Israel. Afrikaans grew out of the Dutch spoken by the farmers (Boers) who emigrated to South Africa in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

 

For more information about the Indo-European language family and the other language families around the world, check out: Languages of the World.

 
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