Dr. Marcia McDowell 9/20/2007 neweaglesforum, "ASK THE MONGRAAL"
Thank you, miclobo. Those successes are coming. They have been coming right along. I like to look at the whole picture. So far, counting in order, we have one major book (Eagles Disobey), there are three major DVD's (Eagle's "Tell the World" and "Many Voices - One Spirit"; and Project Camelot's "Out from Under Majestic"), 3 lesser known {out of print} books (The EBE Briefing Documents, Eagles Undefeated, and Eagles Unchained), one test publication (Emanation of the Solfeggio)...
Coming in short order: Emanation of the Solfeggio (BOOK) The Lotus Presentation (LIVE AUDIENCE PRESENTATION WITH Q/A) A Lotus DVD (DVD) Eagles Disobey(tm): The Martian Timeline (BOOK)I still have a HUGE amount of tape from Dan's debriefing. Probably enough for well over a dozen more DVD's just from the debriefing alone. Plus, even though I already know that something may be happening/changing with what Dan is doing, late next Spring - early Summer, he has agreed that he will hold open the possibility of speaking before the public, but only when/where I personally ask him to.
So, the possibility exists that Dan may be heard before a live audience (in the future) about such things as the J-Rod and his time in Majestic. His life has been spent looking through a microscope, investigating natural phenomena, doing biomed research, and being assigned by Maj to numerous trades (most of which he has enjoyed). His experience with the J-Rod is certainly a focal point of his life, but not the center of it. Here are his exact words to that question, from me:
Dan: "Look, you know my life has substantially moved on! I hope that doesn't signal any impression to the public that my treasured interaction with Chi'el'ah has been relegated to anything less important than when I was being debriefed? It still remains as a very important block of experience, but think of it like this - The world has been asked to move forward in a positive way, at this precious time in our existence, by many voices including my own. How then would my words be concretized, if I were to linger over a series of moments which were defined by the very incidents at the center of the cause of the great test of humanity? Must I not practice what I preach? I am no better, no greater, than anyone else, so must too focus to the positive.
As to your question, "Would you be willing...?" The answer is "yes," but should be limited to the following circumstance: it will be your decision that such a presentation would be beneficial to the public's understanding of the facts of my experiences and the resulting account, and as they relate to the great precipice and possibilities upon which humanity now finds itself. Bill Hamilton, Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy, Paola Harris, Jeff Rense, ... and Jerry Pippin have treated us wonderfully. The yellow journalists, disinfo ops, the mentally ill, and plain fraudulents are out there, but their counterproductive energy direction will only limit their own respective territories. You should if considering such a thing, in my opinion, direct your energies (as I know you will) with the positive people. At that, I will leave you to the decision, and will always remain responsive to your wishes. Dan"
(I limited the list of nice people, because it contained the names of many collaborators, researchers, and investigators we don't want to make public at this time.)
Yes, miclobo, the interest in Eagles Disobey has been a real heart lifter to all of us. The ground-swell is growing. The people who treated us well and received interviews and have ways to contact us directly, and those who will learn of us and treat us politely, will then naturally be the outlets for the growing interest by the public as time passes. The ones who have stood on the other side will have to explain why they can't seem to garner an interview. What I have not said much about until now is that a large number of members of the public have personally spoken with Dan on the telephone, while others are claiming for their own agenda that he can't be contacted! In most cases, people write to me at my email address (marcia_mcdowell@yahoo.com) and ask to speak with Dan and I. Most cases, I say sure, and arrange a time where I can have Dan at my residence to speak with them. The public knows my telephone number! (702-737-7181)
The negative claims by the few will be passed off as their skepticism or cynicism for awhile, but as time passes I think more will just look at them and wonder what's their game all about? Dan will not be available for any calls from the public until December, but I can be if needed. Dan, Deb, the family and I - (but mostly Dan and I) - enjoy a simple existence, a simple lifestyle. We have been criticized for that too. As Dan says, they only tell on their own greed and avarice. Even with many of the Majestic "blue bloods" hiding in plain sight, living simple existences is how Majestic operated inside society for so many years. I am not sure what the new group will do.
Dan recently wrote to me using Einstein's old quote that "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Ufology has been searching government offices, documents, and begging for media coverage, over and over for almost 60 years, and when they are given a chance to learn about how it was all done - they yell at us to back away from their domain.
Dan and I have come to some conclusions. "Greed, avarice, etc. are kernels to breed insanity. It seems some are more afraid of something being learned about them, or challenging what they greedily desire, than they are willing to have revealed the truths they so haughtily hold before them as their hypocritical standard. "We will continue to tell the truth, and present products to the public to help them in their explorations. Eagles Disobey's standard has always been to present it straight, and let the people decide. Nowhere in that statement is a willingness to let certain groups or agenda-driven others to change what/how we say anything. It's not hard to look around the net and find what others are doing to Dan's real account, changing it to suit their needs, outlandish claims, etc. But, Eagles Disobey will not be moved by any of them. Marci
Marci, I just checked the stats. To date, this year, we have 1,303,918 on the hits, with a massive return policy [Eaglesdisobey.net]. People are gravitating to the positive. Caspa
Dr. Marcia McDowell 9/22/2007 Administrator, neweaglesforum, "ASK THE MONGRAAL"
Today at 12:30am, NO WARNING wrote:
Right, Marcia. But I too believe it is critically important, given the loud mouths whom have made utter shambles of themselves, for the public to know that you and Dan are proceeding on YOUR schedule and no one else's! A testament to the integrity of you both are your reactions to the unending demands over the last 4 years! Your unyielding position that what can be released to the public, will be, when it it right to be, speaks louder than the tabloid net. Writing frankly, I have never seen such level of honesty with the public and combined protection under assault anywhere before! Congratulations to you both, and your fine team.
Marcia wrote: Sir, thank you. Dan and I are fortunate to have such good people with us. We will continue to act responsibly with the material. Come to think of it, that's what it has been about? A few have done everything they could, with an eye on getting us to act as irresponsibly as they do. No deal! Marci
Caspa 9/24/007 Deputy Eagles Forum Administrator, neweaglesforum, "ASK THE MONGRAAL"
Marcia: "It will ONLY be resolved when we can get Dan in front of Congress, TRANSPARENTLY (NOT limiting him to what he's already had to say to them in private) and then get ALL THE REST of the black-ops community that want to testify, following a provision of immunity for them."
Correct me if I am wrong, Marci, but Dan is very willing to take the final secrets, the ones about certain genomes and names/initials, and the religion and government one, to the grave with him if they are not aired in the right kind of venue, like Congress?
The above quote, if it is real, is quite possible, as long as they ask you, politely to have some of his time? Dan has sworn the affidavit with the 12 names in it ["Majestic 12"]. I kind of find Knapp's comments funny! It's hard for me to believe he believes his own writing! Like Dan would respond positively to someone calling him names? It's a ruse by Knapp, it's got to be! Caspa
Marcia wrote:
" ... It's important to know that Dan is not alone in his account. The affidavits located
http://s72.photobucket.com/albums/i169/BURISCHMCDOWELL
[ADDITION From This Website]
www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/images1/BurischPhotosSigningDocs.html
Plus Uhouse's and Deacon's information, because of their actions is making the loud ones look very bad. To be held accountable for his word is the reason why he swore under penalty of perjury. When the final beans are counted, their fear to test his affidavits and the drawn out use of ad hominem attacks, slander, libel, and low brow poo-pooing will be on par with the public's incredulity about the subject matter. It's an important record. With all those affidavits, and them either doing the right thing and getting on with it or not, consider it a state of affairs check. Marci P.S. Freshprinze, if Dan is ever called, only one thing would happen: he would tell the truth. I suspect that and the things others have to hide is what's holding them back.
SIR BONE-AMI MON-GRAAL, 10/2/07 [an] Administrator, neweaglesforum, "ASK THE MONGRAAL!" , ['wag the dog"]
LETTER! " Dear Mongraal, Did Dan apologize to XXXXX and XXXXX for surveillance they suffered, before they went to Canada? They say they are going to make the video available. Signed, Which is right"
DEAR WHICH IS RIGHT, NO! IF THEY POST IT, LISTEN CLOSELY TO WHAT DAN ACTUALLY SAID! HE APOLOGIZED IF (OR HAD) THEY BEEN HARASSED IN ANY WAY BY ANY AGENT OF THE MAJESTIC! IF I REMEMBER RIGHT WHAT HE SAID, IT WAS EVEN MORE IFY THAN THAT! IN EITHER CASE HE OFFERED IT ON BEHALF OF THE MAJESTIC, EVEN WHEN THE MAJESTIC HAS NEVER BEEN TRACKED TO BOTHERING THEM! THAT REALLY PEED OFF THE MAJ ECHELON! I HOPE THEY DO POST IT!
PUT THAT TOGETHER WITH THE APOLOGY ABOUT ABDUCTIONS HE GAVE AT LAUGHLIN AND IT SHOWS DAN FOR THE LEADER HE IS! AND THANKS FOR WRITING THE MONGRAAL!
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Addendum: Laughlin
Quoted from Updates part25
www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/Links/UpdatesPart25Burisch.html
"... Much to my surprise, when the question about abductions came up, Dan's presentation became far more forceful- much more forceful than I had anticipated.
He paused, darkly, then said that as a previously seated numbered member of the 12, eventhough he had no official authority to do so, he took it upon himself to apologize for the previously established treaty programmed abductions, citing that they were wrong on any account and that as he was a former "number," he had 'some responsibility to speak out in that regard'.
He said he used his short time as a "J" number to press for the removal of the abductions from the treaty process because it was wrong, and that the government (including Majestic in years passed) had been lying to the people of the world when dismissing their claims of abductions or et encounters.
It was a powerful moment. When the question about right and wrong was stated, Dan became angrily passionate that the removal of people from their beds at night could never be justified, and that he said,
'On behalf of Majestic and the Majestic 12, I am sorry, I apologize.' In the 60 years of Majestic, this is the only (or at least one of very few times) anyone from the seated 12 has ever said they were sorry for anything.
P.S. - this is on audio at www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/images2/DrBurischDebriefingDVD2.html
Beginnings of the "Golden Thread"; Oct 2, 2003
"GLP" Thread www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/project_otus/DanBurischForumThread.html
The Most Recent Public Forum Thread
www.neweaglesforum.proboards107.com (Majestic-initiated forum)
www.thegoldenthread.info/forum (Public-initiated forum)
http://thegoldenthread.21.forumer.com
http://danburisch.info/vanillaforum
http://danburish.forumup.org (Public-created forum)
[breach of "TOS" Updates Part 24 2/24/2007]
eaglesforum2
eaglesforum1
http://stargateforum.13.forumer.com
eaglesdisobey.org
...(& others)
Dr. Dan Burisch threads continuing since Oct 2, 2003 to the PRESENT TIME.
"NEVER DOUBT THAT A SMALL GROUP OF COMMITTED PEOPLE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD; INDEED, IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT EVER HAS." --Margaret Mead, anthropologist
UJ Cross posted 10/7/07
www.thegoldenthread.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104&start=375
A Quoted Post from neweaglesforum
... SEPT. 9, 2007 (03:06) NOTE: THE FOLLOWING WAD RECEIVED FROM THE NEW GROUP. IT WAS REPORTED TO ME THAT DR. BURISCH IS A CONTRIBUTING WRITER TO THIS STATEMENT. SHOULD THIS STATEMENT BE READ BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IT SHOULD NOT BE INTERPRETED AS ABOUT "PLANET X." THE SHAR, TO THOSE WHO KNOW, IS SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT THAN A LITERAL PLANET. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THIS STATEMENT HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC, IT IS NOT DIRECTED AT THE PUBLIC.
"BEGIN STATEMENT
Ranking, Consistory, and Field Operators of the former Majority and Majestic, assembled, greetings. Ranking, Consistory, and Field Operators of the present Body, assembled, greetings.
The passage of time has been fulfilled. The earth's star has entered the last half degree of the arc, given by the celestial clockwork of the God of Ages. The earth's star is functioning as expected for all Looking Glass recorded data as Time Passage #1, Variant #83, and so the consequences to the earth, her systems, and her life are expected in keeping with that variation. The secondary systems support the primary data.
The moment of breath of the Great Day of the Shar is upon us!
While members of the human population move about in their daily activities, it is your charge to enhance their understanding of the presence of destiny and promise in their lives, and their interconnectedness to all life.
Understand that disagreements, among individuals, to amongst nation states, will continue unabated during this time, as they have been so since the first time of original human culture. Most will know nothing of the events. Arrange for your petty differences to be handled, but focus your lives on the movement through the time of the Shar, on service to others as an expression of the concept of the unity of humanity. As the earth's star, our gate to the Cosmos, undergoes her birth pangs, giving new life, so move as many as you are able to the awakening of the newest Age of Light.
Assist as many others, as possible, to orieint their lives to the service of one humanity. It is expected that only the more sensitive of human beings will react to the entrance to the Shar, and even fewer will realize the import, as the two become one.
The nation states of the earth have been informed, and agreements have been successfully crafted to stabilize and freeze the normal geopolitical milieu. Internationally, military and economic eventualities have been solidified. The estimated date of entrance is a prime focus of liaisons to the nation states. They are in place, now, to offer assurances as tensions slowly rise while expecting entrance. We expect the entrance to the Shar within several weeks, then the transit through until after the accepted 2016 estimates.
Peace be upon you all. END STATEMENT"
Dr. Marcia McDowell Oct 12, 2007 neweaglesforum, "ASK THE MONGRAAL!"
Eagles Disobey has received a large number of emails asking our feelings or official position on the recent declarations of the Vatican, regarding the Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici, the Knight's Templar. In particular, we have been asked due to my membership in the Sovereign Order of Saint John, and Dan's familial relationship to the Masons. Neither Dan, nor I have any official comment, regarding the Vatican's latest announcements. Marci
"Extraterrestrials, Stargate Technology and Dan Burisch: Public Disclosure or Disinformation? - Exopolitics Comment #56"
www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-56.htm
Caspa 10/21/2007 Deputy Eagles Forum Administrator, neweaglesforum, "ASK THE MONGRAAL"
Letters received.
"Does Dan know where the stargate was in 2003 that he says he was at and the jrod was put into? "
Yes, Dan has identified the precise location for professional researchers, the latitude and longitude, and with aerial photography and diagrams. This was a good one,
"Does Dan ever feel really down because of the character assassins and those only willing to lend their support if he agrees with their truths? How could he still love people? I saw him in that one video and he really looked upset. How does his faith hold up these days?"
I think the answer is yes, sometimes". But people always have to remember context. Some have it truly lodged in their brains that this is a story being told for their benefits. (For instance, I have never been involved with Majestic, only a personal relationship with one of its security people.) The people who call it just a story are too self absorbed to see what's in front of them. Dan was ORDERED while still a member of Majestic to complete a debriefing and face the public in the condition he arrived in front of them. To a point he is allowing himself to be torn at for a purpose. I have heard him say is much greater than him. Now his days in Majestic are done, and it's rare when he talks about the J-Rod.
The "naysayers" are kidding themselves, absorbed in self delusion, if they think anything they will say will stop the masses from wanting to know.
The negatives have increased the talk about Dan by people.The video you saw was right at the moment when Dan was leaving for an assignment he was asked to do, but didn't have to. I've talked with Marci about him a lot. The mood he was in was more deepened emotional confusion plus frustration, plus the weight of the things to come. He did it out of love, not out of personal gain. He certainly didn't do it for his health. I hope I will not get into trouble with this comment.
I do not believe that Dan understands how people can really decide to live lives of negativity, deception, and offering friendship only if he buys into their sales line. That's his heart. And IMO he knows he was used and he also knows that the loss of a few people's friendship doesn't compare to the importance of the mission he had to complete. (President Richard Nixon stood with his close acquaintances instead of doing the right thing, didn't he?) Just because Dan doesn't understand how they can make such choices, doesn't mean that he doesn't understand what they are, or how they act after such a choice. He certainly does.
A few days ago Marci received a letter from a senior investigator and that letter asked for Dan's opinion involving some people who are spreading disinformation and are professionals in that field, and trained by the United States government.
The information was on very touchy subjects about humanity and how the Majestic was involved. The letter caused a triggertrip with the Tau 9 treaty, just like an Eagles Forum member's question did a little while ago. Dan answered the questions, some of which dealt directly with the late Presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson and how they were involved with the history of the wars of the Maji and the Illuminati. A tough moment. Then Dan looked at the disinformation as a psychological system and broke it down for the researcher in line-item detail. He showed how they plant ideas, glue them to each other, then twist them to get people to emotionally react. That cements the disinformation idea as an afterthought so it is accepted as truth. It's more a matter of heart to him than understanding what he faces. He has the heart and he understands the nature of this beast once it manifests.
His kidlike nature always repoints him to positive so it looks like he is never expecting the kind of people who strolled into his life with hidden daggers. I understand that the center of Dan's philosophy is that our physical bodies, even our spirits~souls, the whole universe, appearing to be separate things is an illusion.
When Mongy posted this to him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1bHaUk1CMI saw him live on the video to where he was. He sat and listened to it. Marci told me that his Uncle, Art Mansfield, worked on Boulder Dam. That's why the lyrics Waylon sung about the Dam mean so much to him. But when it got to the part by Johnny Cash and the starship, Dan said "I bet you are right now!" as if he was talking to Johnny Cash. That plus my reading his writings let me in on his secret that I think he learned (Dan correct me if I am wrong, please? ) when his healing happened in 1980. Here's my guess, Dan:
All time happens at once. There is no real separation between anything, in reality, only perception when in a physical body. Reincarnation is a perception on this side of eternity for all life being one. At death you return to the One Love Unity everything comes from. A birth is a part of you and a part of everyone and everything in a new experience. If I am right his faith is strong and he will keep doing the right things. Caspa
Addendum:
[As pertains to: "The negatives have increased the talk about Dan by people."]
Nightshade 09 - 10/21/07 GLP forum
http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=17&showdate=10/21/07&messageid=440667&mpage=1
The time for talk is over!
As of Friday Oct 19th, 2007 4:00 pm EST Dan Burisch has been reported to Homeland Security for the following reasons:
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Sorry Danny's about to escorted away in handcuffs! But not so friendly Homeland Security ZOG's...
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[late addition] - Dr. Marcia McDowell Sept 5, 2007 Administrator, neweaglesforum, "Marci's Blog"
"HUMBLY SERVING THE "APOSTLE TO THE APOSTLES"
Tone it down. In the end, Dan and I will make the decisions for ourselves. They will be ethical and moral - like always. We will continue to tell the truth, no matter how hard or easy it is to hear. Tone it down. Marci
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