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News Update 28-January-2007.

Email providers sue over spam!.

As first reported on PM - Thursday, 11 March , 2004 by Reporter: Edmond Roy, MARK COLVIN.

( Quote )
Four top US internet firms have jointly announced a series of lawsuits under a new Federal law, seeking to shut down unsolicited emails known as spam.
It's the first time four major companies, America Online, EarthLink, Microsoft and Yahoo, have acted together in order to track down and stop the spammers.
( End of Quote )

How ironic all this is in that here in Australia 2006 - 2007 isn't it just down right odd that some over seas Email providers sue over spam and here we have in Australia some Australian companys such as NineMSN and Hotmail actively been running an email mail server in generating and distributing their " Unsolicited attachments " SPAM MAIL ! in which millions of unsolicited emails are clogging the internet around the world.

Perhaps its also time for Australia's own NineMSN and Hotmail to lift their game too.

In that in 2006 a man in Sydney NSW was sued and convicted for sending out spam mail, so I would have to ask whats the point in sueing any one over sending out spam if big companys like what we have got here in Australia get away with doing the same thing even when they have admitted to doing the same thing so why have they not been dealt with in the same manner !.

Or is this stance just applying to the little people of Australia ?.

So whats the point in saying one thing and then doing another is it all just window dressing and hot air after all ? if we in the real world are not going to do something about it ourselfs in that if you are complacent you get what you deserve then its just nuts.


Here is my complaint of the 14-12-2006 with the ( NAME OF THE SAID COMPANY IS WITH HELD ) along with what little feed back I did get back as there has still been no resolve been forth coming from either NineMSN or Hotmail todate now 28-January-2007 and the crap just keeps on keeping on.

First Written Complaint 14-12-2006.

MSN Hotmail E-mail Support at 10.24am 0n the 14-12-2006.

To Whom Ever this may concern,

I would like to know WHY is hotmail.com attaching a porn link to the end of my personal emails such as the following ?.

Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ ( Name With Held ) - Click here

I am not impressed at all and I would like this to STOP right away and on this subject I am also getting fed up with all the porn advertisement and banners thats is coming on Ninemsn Hotmail too.

If you want to sell Australian women being no better than sluts then do it on your own personal emails BUT NOT MINE.

Have you got this clear.

Regards

Peter D Giles.

Thank you for submitting your issue to Support.Your Support Ticket Number:1025581120

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( MY FEED BACK TO MSN )

Subject: RE: SRX1025581120ID - MSN Hotmail:I have a comment about Ho:Positive:Service Quality

Hello Marivel V,. MSN Hotmail Technical Support

Just following up with you in your email to me of Friday, 15 December 2006 5:11:06 AM as I have just been reading your feed back to me that I have received from Hotmail.

I would firstly thank you at Hotmail, NineMSN and ( Name With Held ) for the bloody insult in yous having implicating me in the distribution of such 'smut ' be it an Adult web site.

I also see that my freedoms and freedom of choice is being manipulated and interfered with here by yous this too I am not happy with this form of intimidation and I dont support such smut that a child could get hold of.

I also have taken note of the fact that hotmail is still spamming here in you making use of my personal email contact listing to distribute your " Unsolicited attachments " on my emails to which you are also using my email account to justify the respectiblity of such " smut " Unsolicited attachments ".

I would point out to you that I object to being implicated in this manner and to having my email address used to send such smut as an " Unsolicited attachments to an Adult web site " and to persons that I personal know in you having used this porn web link or be it an Adult web site such as ( Name With Held ) to do so.

I would ask you to think about the Advertisement you have presented and indeed the wording in which you are promoting the following in it supposidily to be an Adult dating service !.
Where there is " porn " overtones being used such as which in the Advertisement " Baby blonde23, hot choclate, sweet sensess, sexy sweet chikita, sweetie01, hot mamma etc," this does not ring true to be an Adult dating service.

However what you have NOT stated is the fact I never gave you permission to implicate me in distributing such smut or to use and abuse my personal email contacts listing or my personage as a data base or for you's to make use of it as a distributing data base.
Nor have I given permission to ANY 3rd party to use my personal information and email contacts list to be used to send and distribute there " Unsolicited attachments " such as supposidily to be an Adult dating service on my emails !.

I also have taken note of this and your so called lines of resolution in resolving this matter where I am now being asked to pay a " FEE " to you to stop you's attaching " Unsolicited attachments " to my emails.

Are you also then saying that even if I use " Outlook Express " I still would have to pay Hotmail $19.95 per year so as not to receive any of your " Unsolicited attachments " from any of of your Hotmail members as well too!.

You have not stated if indeed that would be the case ?.

I would ask you why are you's generating such SPAM MAIL in the first place in now admitting to having actively been running a mail server as a spam mail generator in yous also scamming to dirvie moneys out of such trechurey with thought being make accountable to internet users and to young children?.

Once it was a pleasure to be on the internet but now yous are making the internet so benign now adays its gone like the way of the phone system in this country useless.

Indeed it has also got to be noted that Hotmail, NineMSN or ( Name With Held ) none of you's have also not seen or shown any concerns in relations to a " Child " that would also receive this form of crap under the " Child exploitation/pornography threats acts of Australia.

Lets face it no matter what is said NO due care has been given for the " Child " in this illegal use of this media to promote porn web links or be it an Adult web site being made of my personal email contacts list to do so.

If Australian company's like Hotmail, NineMSN and ( Name With Held ) think for one moment that what they are doing is correct in making a " buck " then perhaps you should indeed have another hard look at just what you's really are doing in clearly promoting Adult web site. Or are you's also saying that any minor under 16 years old can not have or should not have a email account and that would also affect Kids at School too!.
Or would they too have to pay Hotmail $19.95 per year so as not to receive any of your " Unsolicited attachments " from any of your Hotmail members as well ?.

I would also ask if this FREE email account and my personal contacts are indeed mine or if indeed is it Hotmail, NineMSN and ( Name With Held ) !. isn't it nice to see that Technology still is out there promoting the true Australian after all good to see that Hotmail ,NineMSN and ( Name With Held ) , still promotes Australia so well.
in that after all not much has changed since the Convict ship " Lady Eleanor " in 1831 landed in Sydney in that same ship was also known as the " floating brothel " time it seems has not changed things very much it seems nor indeed changed Australian history in that Australians came from whores and sluts ,,,nice to see how we promote Australia even to this day isn't !.

I would wonder why you would not lift your game on that one and see to the damages that you's are carrying out.

I will monitor now with interest to see if my account with you will not be interfered with due to I having come forth and said my peace it will also be interesting to see if there is any form of retribution forth coming concerning all these matters of great concern to " Children " and decent Australians.

I would thank you for your time.

Regards

Peter D Giles. 18-Dec-2006

E-mail 1: petergiles2@hotmail.com

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( MSN FEED BACK )

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Hello Peter,

Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail Technical Support. This is Marivel and I understand that you have concern on sent messages have advertisement tags. I realize the inconvenience this may have caused you and the importance of this to be addressed immediately.

Peter, I appreciate your taking the time to send us your thoughts about the look and features of MSN Hotmail, and for your suggestions of any new features that you think are important to add to MSN Hotmail. Although we cannot respond to your suggestion individually, we review all feedback daily and your feedback is important to us.

MSN Hotmail is free because of the advertisement found in MSN Hotmail pages and those found on the bottom of your messages. These advertising tags that appear at the bottom of your outgoing MSN Hotmail messages and Hotmail pages pay for your free e-mail service and Instant Messaging service.

If you do not want any advertisement tags on your Hotmail pages, you may want to consider MSN Hotmail Plus for $19.95 per year. This offer includes:

- 2GB (Gigabytes) of storage
- Ability to send attachments of 20MB
- No graphical advertisements
- Exemption from the 30-day Hotmail inactivity policy
- 30 MB of MSN Groups storage

For more information on this and other MSN subscription plans, visit http://join.msn.com.

We consider all of the suggestions and comments sent in by our members, and we maintain an internal database of suggestions that we consult and prioritize.

We are committed to upgrading the Hotmail system to improve our service to you, and you can expect to see many improvements in the near future.

You are a valuable customer to MSN and we are glad to give you consistent and effective service. Thank you for using MSN Hotmail.

Sincerely,

Marivel V. MSN Hotmail Technical Support

--- Original Message ---
From: petergiles2@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:53:37 AM UTC
To: support_x
Subject: MSN Hotmail:I have a comment about Ho:Positive:Service Quality

Service: MSN Hotmail

What type of problem do you have?
I have a comment about Hotmail
Positive
Service Quality

Full Name:
Peter D Giles

What e-mail address would you like a response sent to? petergiles2@hotmail.com

Primary e-mail address/member ID associated with the account you are inquiring about:

Be specific when describing your problem. The details that you include enable us to promptly send you the most likely solution to your issue. To Whom Ever this may concern,

I would like to know WHY is hotmail.com attaching a porn link to the end of my personal emails such as the following ?.

Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ ( Name With Held ) - Click here

I am not impressed at all and I would like this to STOP right away and on this subject I am also getting fed up with all the porn advertisement and banners thats is coming on Ninemsn Hotmail too.

If you want to sell Australian women being no better than sluts then do it on your own personal emails BUT NOT MINE.

Have you got this clear.

Regards

Peter D Giles.

E-mail 1: petergiles2@hotmail.com