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The People Who is Empire Towers? That is a question that has been asked many time. I am not sure that question will ever be answered fully. Since the organization structure is not known, I will list the names of people who have been linked to Empire Towers and demonstrate the link. Those that I cannot directly link will be listed in the Client/Partners? section. Those names are Fred Lusky, Thomas Carlton-Cowles, Andy Pope, and Rodona Garst. Thomas Carlton-Cowles is the first name to be assiociated with Empire Towers. His domains Innovest.net and Galaxygateway.com used to share the same site as empiretowers.net. Galaxygateway.com is now registered directly to E.T. Corp. Innovest.net is no longer a registered domain. Copies of the original registrations below. IVTG Corp. DBA: Innovest.net (INNOVEST4-DOM) IVTG Corp. DBA: Innovest.net (INNOVEST4-DOM)
Fred Lusky is the name used for leasing netblocks. His name can be found in the records for AMZ Internet Specialities and on a new block leased to a company using the FWDEEE Inc which uses the same address for contact as AMZ. It should also be noted that the e-mail address of jetsonville.com is registered to E.T. Corp E.T. Corp. (JETSONVILLE-COM-DOM) FWDEEE Inc. (NETBLK-SAVV-S84034-1) AMZ Internet Specialities (NETBLK-QWEST-208-45-183-0A) Andy Pope and Rodona Garst, these names will probably come as somewhat of a surprise, even to most people who try to keep track of ET. The source for this connection came from an exposé on Premier Services, titled Behind Enemy Lines published under the name Man In The Wilderness at http://belps.freewebsites.com/index2.htm In the ICQ chat logs, the conversations between Rodona and Andy (there are four of them) and between Rodona and Fred, yield some interesting speculations and some solid connections. In the various conversations between Rodona and Andy, there is enough information to confirm that Andy is Andy Pope. His full name is used a few times, and he requests e-mail to be sent to his domain of hpclv.com. Most interesting are the discussions between Andy and Rodona, where Andy provides Rodona with the names of various domains to mail from and to have replies sent. These domains are: bestof-america.net Registered to Empire Towers
em@usrules.freemarketfreemind.com
Registered to Empire Towers An excerpt from the website is included below. This excerpt includes two of the domains listed above, and also Rodona refers to getting a URL from Fred. It also references a new mailing program that Fred is working the bugs out of, and the use of the "stealth thing" <Begin Excerpt> Andy 4/10/00 2:42 AM try this one: pamperpleasures.com for a return Rodona 4/10/00 3:02 AM pamperedpleasures.com? Yikes! They'll think I'm mailing porno or something :-) Andy 4/10/00 3:03 AM it works - Rodona 4/10/00 3:03 AM k I'm going to try it now :-) - THANKS! Andy 4/10/00 3:03 AM k - will look for one not so graphic Rodona 4/10/00 3:04 AM :-) considering the url Fred just sent me that might be wise. Rodona 4/10/00 3:05 AM is it pamperpleasures.com or pamperedpleasures.com? Andy 4/10/00 3:07 AM pamperedpleasures.com Andy 4/10/00 3:21 AM try this one To: Rodona 4/10/00 3:21 AM are you picking up the undeliverables on this one? Andy 4/10/00 3:22 AM To:em@usrules.freemarketfreemind.com here without the brackets Andy 4/10/00 3:22 AM yep Rodona 4/10/00 3:22 AM k Andy 4/10/00 3:22 AM less pornographic Rodona 4/10/00 3:23 AM yep :-) - can you hop into the server and make sure I'm doing everything right? Also, ready when you are with the Stealth thing. Andy 4/10/00 3:23 AM ok going in now Rodona 4/10/00 3:23 AM k Andy 4/10/00 3:25 AM as long as backup server is ok - then all looks well Rodona 4/10/00 3:25 AM ok should know soon if I'm getting in I guess. Andy 4/10/00 3:25 AM ok - but all settings look good Rodona 4/10/00 3:26 AM ok sounds good. Andy 4/10/00 3:26 AM let me know Rodona 4/10/00 3:27 AM k Rodona 4/10/00 3:41 AM no seeds :-( major bummer. Rodona 4/10/00 3:43 AM Are you using Emerge or Stealth? Andy 4/10/00 3:46 AM both Rodona 4/10/00 3:47 AM hmmm what am I doing wrong then? Andy 4/10/00 3:47 AM hang on let me try something Rodona 4/10/00 3:47 AM k Andy 4/10/00 3:50 AM go to iamhit1998 that is stealth Rodona 4/10/00 3:51 AM ok...I'm getting my tests so why am I not getting in you think? Andy 4/10/00 3:51 AM do not know yrt - all of my stealth stuff is getting in though Rodona 4/10/00 3:52 AM What are you settings for it? Same as Emerge? Andy 4/10/00 3:53 AM yep Rodona 4/10/00 3:53 AM You mailing merchant this morning? What's up with everything? You have to fill me in on what's happening :-) I feel totally in the dark. Andy 4/10/00 3:54 AM ok in a bit Rodona 4/10/00 3:54 AM k Andy 4/10/00 4:24 AM try it with stealth all seeds are getting in Rodona 4/10/00 4:24 AM How many servers are you using at a time? Andy 4/10/00 4:24 AM 10 Rodona 4/10/00 4:25 AM ok Andy 4/10/00 4:25 AM by the way -talked to fred - the mai lprogram is down - they are trying to get it back up by 3pm my time <End Excerpt>
Other references in the ICQ chat logs show that Fred lives in or around Detroit and travels to Florida on business. The conversation between Andy and Rodona discussing ET domains, a URL from Fred for the mailing, and Fred's residence in the Detroit area, where Fred Lusky lives, makes for a big coincidence. But, if you don't think that it is a coincidence, it gets even more depressing. From the ICQ log between Rodona and Fred. <Begin Quote> Razzle 3/31/00 4:17 AM Fred are you happy with Broadwing? Fred 3/31/00 4:37 AM I never got them Fred 3/31/00 4:40 AM I never got them Razzle 3/31/00 4:40 AM I thought you did...who do you have your T's with then? Fred 3/31/00 4:42 AM qwest and a local isp
Razzle 4/4/00 11:18 AM We need to mail merchant to pay for this website. Not getting there real quick. Do we need more money for software? Razzle 4/4/00 11:18 AM or just the website itself? Fred 4/4/00 11:19 AM we still need 10k to finish the site and he is still working on the software Razzle 4/4/00 11:19 AM a few good days of mailing would get that 10k. Fred 4/4/00 11:20 AM yep yep the site should be finished this week Razzle 4/4/00 11:20 AM GREAT! Do I need to chip in more $'s or what is the plan? Razzle 4/4/00 11:21 AM GREAT! Do I need to chip in more $'s or what is the plan? Fred 4/4/00 11:21 AM yep yep the site should be finished this week Fred 4/4/00 11:22 AM I don't know yet. I sent the last payment of 10k for the web site I always let andy organize all the $ Razzle 4/4/00 11:23 AM :-) I hear that. Razzle 4/6/00 6:48 AM Fred is the software ready? I just tried to access it and was asked for username and password. I go in periodically just to see what changes have been made :-) Fred 4/7/00 7:42 AM getting there <End Quote> Well, looks like Rodona, Fred and Andy are partners in some kind of new website and mailing system. Fred is handling the technical aspects, Andy is handling the finances and Rodona is asking if she needs to contribute more money to the project. I wonder what that project is? Interesting, I could speculate, and I have, but this is not the place to post that speculation. I will say that the information in the logs, clearly shows that Andy and Rodona had knowledge of and access to Empire Towers Domains. You decide the rest. If you are interested in verifying the information, or checking the logs, I recommend using the find command from the browser and searching for ".com" , ".net" , and "Fred", and then read the area around the search results. |
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