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This page is to help others and myself review peoples past statements and beliefs. The Lord is my witness that these are the statements in whole, unedited, and to the best of my knowledge not out of context either. If one says something on the web they should be willing to have it viewed by all, either that or they should stop saying what they say. In fact they should be perpared to have it reprinted here or in the daily newspaper for that matter... Some will say... "But you didn't enclude what stupid things Christians say as well." Oh! yes I did! Some I'm sure in time will have a problem with this page, so far those that know about it for the most part have shown support for it... and the others, the ones that don't like it or agree with it... tough titty said the momma cat to the kitty... don't come here. The only editing that will be done is if one does a "wame = same" typo correction. Some might say, well you'll just add false statements, lies about those that are against you or your God... it's my God that keeps me in check of false witnessing, and I don't take it lightly how Father views thoses that slander others. Some of these rooms have full time bots logging all the chats, if someone is in doubt about what they say, ask for the logs and you will see, you did say just that. Don't get so drunk you can't remember what you said next time, or what ever the cause might be that keeps you from remembering.
Nooooo I didn't enclude the stupid things I said, what ya think I'm stupid!!! LOL
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#cw = #ChristianWarrior
#c = #Christian
#c^ = #Christian^
#a = #atheism
#r = #religion
#i = Islam
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CHECK THIS OUT! Here is a winner! #cd 03/02 Always nice to be told to "F" off!
KingJehu> To suggest there are no Christians that are against war, and this war would be ludicrous.
KingJehu> I and many Christians do not support a war on Iraq right now, that doesn't make me a non-Christian, just one that doesn't agree with some of my fellow brothers and sisters on this certain point.
Akonyte> Gankaku It would not bother me where I lived, it is because of God that I breathe each breathe! Praise the Lord! And it will be by his hand that I pass on, nothing can remove me from the hollow of his hand, not even Saddam
Akonyte> Gankaku For me to believe anything different, would be for me to deny the pwoer of God
Gankaku> I dont think war is good at all, but one must take stock and realise that the free world is only free through military victory to spread the gospel. War is necessary at times and even God commanded David and the Israelites into war. God is not against war, hes against unjust war which leads to the question "in Gods eyes" in this war just or unjust and how can you prove it either way?
pumped_m_> thanks for clarifying KingJehu
Akonyte> Gankaku I don't live under the OT, I am a Converted Gentile
Gankaku> Akonyte Thats besides the point
sound_off> Akonyte but the bible does say that God gave power to the Governments for protection and justice to be executed. I think it all depends on the situation.
KingJehu> Akonyte as a Child of God we are directed to protect the children and the women. :) Some believe by taking Saddam out, in the long run it would be saving lives of women and children, which he has killed in the past.
Akonyte> Gankaku no, I will not deny the power of God, no man has the power totake me out until God permits it, I believe that God is pwoerful enough and faithful enough in his promises to protect me, or let me go home
Gankaku> I agree KingJehu
Akonyte> KingJehu as a child of God, what a manipulative attempt at trying to guilt trip me into supporting war
KingJehu> oh please
Littlefoot> [KingJehu] Nice that you make the idea up... you'd however do a lot better if you stopped pretending you were using the bible for the idea
KingJehu> dont get started with me Akonyte
KingJehu> learn your bible first
Akonyte> KingJehu I am smarter than that, try a different tactic
Psalms 82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
Gankaku> If given the choice of Saddam gassing more innocent woman and children or warring against Iraq I pick the former
Akonyte> KingJehu you don't like it, you have the power
KingJehu> read it Akonyte
KingJehu> thats not about you?
KingJehu> is that about you or not doug?
KingJehu> yes or no?
Akonyte> KingJehu no that is not me
KingJehu> well then you are not a child of God. so be it.
Akonyte> I do not judge unjustly
Akonyte> I donot accept the wicked
KingJehu> No one in that verse is judging at all
Akonyte> and now you are judging me
Gankaku> Akonyte Saddam is not wicked to you?
KingJehu> it doesnt say to judge, till we are told to does it?
sound_off> The fact is Jesus Father has angels as well who war.
Akonyte> Gankaku did I say that?
Akonyte> wow
KingJehu> It does say. . . Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
KingJehu> Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
Akonyte> DId I even imply that? I am sorry if that is what you see, I really am
KingJehu> IT tells the children of God to do that
KingJehu> NOW if your a Child of God stand up!
Akonyte> You have nme tied up in a neat little package
Gankaku> Akonyte You did not confirm either way - which is it then?
sound_off> Well the bible does say that God set up the Governments to execute
KingJehu> if not, then so be it.
Akonyte> KingJehu Fuck you
[01:33] *** KingJehu sets mode: +b *!*@adsl-63-196-117-86.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net
[01:33] *** Akonyte was kicked by KingJehu (Please dont Swear (30sec timeout))
[01:33] *** SeekHim sets mode: +b *!*akonyte@adsl-??-???-???-??.dsl.frsn??.pacbell.net
Gankaku> Laughs Out Loud
sound_off> wow
Gankaku> Up to his old tricks
[01:33] *** KingJehu sets mode: -b *!*@adsl-63-196-117-86.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net
[01:33] *** Gankaku sets mode: -b *!*@adsl-63-196-117-86.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net
sound_off> KingJehu you did make a woderful argument and posted great evidence
pumped_m_> but alittle harsh
(Sometimes I do come off as a bit harsh, but it is to stress a point I am trying to get across. SOMEHOW this debate was talked about, and some believe i have somehow switched my stance on the war, I will state it here again. UNLESS there is another UN resolution, I do not believe there should be an invasion of Iraq, unless it is clear Saddam is murdering people or planning to.)
sound_off> pumped_m_ and akyonte does not get harsh lol
pumped_m_> hey,
pumped_m_> im new
KingJehu> sound_off :)
noeuro-away> What was Akonyte getting worked up about ?
Gankaku> Welcome pumped_m_
pumped_m_> :)
[01:35] *** SeekHim sets mode: -b *!*akonyte@adsl-??-???-???-??.dsl.frsn??.pacbell.net
sound_off> pumped_m_ I seen akonyte get very harsh in debates and even pile it on
sound_off> he will get over it
sound_off> he always does lol
[01:36] *** Joins: Akonyte (~akonyte@adsl-63-196-117-86.dsl.frsn01.pacbell.net)
KingJehu> Akonyte, sorry bro, but a cuss word like that buys a bit more of a time out, then just that amount, no hard feelings bro, but it wouldn't be fair ro boot some people for using that word for an hour or two, and not treat you the same way, you can understand that can't ya dude?
Akonyte> Littlefoot I'll let you know by the 10th
Littlefoot> Akonyte> you know, you have to be kind to travelers, but them up, give them the good stuff....
Akonyte> Littlefoot Cya later, looks like I am getting ready to be punished some more
KingJehu> Akonyte, well tell ya what, make ya a deal, dont cuss like that anymore.
Akonyte> I'll just go
KingJehu> and i have no problmes with ya staying
KingJehu> but if ya do it again you'll have to hit the ban for a day or two okay?
sound fair?
Akonyte> Personally, you should place me on the akick list
KingJehu> well naaaa
Akonyte> That sounds the fairest of all
KingJehu> we all let debate get the best of us, but just so ya know bro, if it happens again I am going to have to place a bit of a long ban on you :)
Akonyte> KingJehu way are you so nice to me sometimes.
Akonyte>KingJehu> Akonyte, why not?
Akonyte>KingJehu> If i am to love my enemies how much more so should I love you that is not my enemy?
Akonyte>Akonyte> KingJehu dang it, I simply hate it sometimes when you are nice to me'
Akonyte>Akonyte> damn you
Akonyte>KingJehu> :)
Akonyte>[01:50] *** Quits: Akonyte (Quit: "I see little divinity about them or you. You talk to me of Christianity when you are in the act of hanging your enemies. Was there ever such blasphemous nonsense!" [Shaw, "The Devil's Disciple"])
bnyfoofoo> lol
* Littlefoot bops bnyfoofoo
bnyfoofoo> KingJehu, no fair killing people with kindness
bnyfoofoo> ouch Littlefoot!!
KingJehu> bnyfoofoo :P
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A THREAT by a so called fellow op!
enki> webulite^ is a child molesting perv!!! I am leaving this room!
KingJehu> thats right
KingJehu> what abut it
enki> KingJehu got some proof? that's a character assult.
KingJehu> first off read the rules of this room about bring up other rooms
Ryft> That doesn't need to come here. Take it to PM now.
enki> you can be put in prison for saying that about someone.
Ryft> I'll kick you both, if necessary -- I won't bother deciding between you.
THAT IS ALL that was said before Ryft threatened to kick another op, and he has kicked op other then me before, SOMEHTING must be done about this. For more details about Ryft and his actions see, "CHECK THIS OUT! I'm sure we all cuss or have cussed in our life time," 09/02 on that log page.
KingJehu> second, ask him, he will tell you there is nothing wrong with a man having sex with a girl of the age of 11 if they are married, he was defending mohammed, ask him
KingJehu> Ryft you wont kick me both once buddy
KingJehu> i assure you of that
KingJehu> so lets see it
Ryft> I've doe it before, KingJehu.
This was a cut and paste, and not the full log, Ryft has the full log, as do the bots, here is the proof
Ryft> KingJehu is not only slandering, which breaks US law, he's also carrying on in here something that happened in another channel, breaking #christiandebate laws.
KingJehu> so Ryft i was the one that said it was against the rules to do so?
KingJehu> scroll back up
enki> Ryft about time you dealt with this lawless man :)
KingJehu> yeah Ryft? deal with me like you said, kick me, come on?
KingJehu> YOU said you would kick me,
enki> do it and KingJehu will turn atheist! it's not a joke!!
Ryft> KingJehu> so Ryft i was the one that said it was against the rules to do so? ------ Yes, you did, which makes your breaking of them flagrant and blatant. I'll deal with you soon enough, right now I'm logging.
He will deal with me? Well there shows he has the logs in full, so do the bots, so if one wants the full logs to this ask Ryft to e-mail them or get them from the bots. My concern is that I was threated by a op, before much of anything was said at all. Second if a op has a problem with another op, it is to be taken to a private window, not uin open channel. Ryft, clearly brought it to the open room, between me and him first. He will deal with me soon enough? LOL, well that time never came, second, last time I checked the sop list Ryft wasn't on it, thats a bit highminded of him to say "He will deal with me soon enough" I think.
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[11:59] *** Set by Ryft on Mon Mar 31 00:42:40
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Topic: [22:42] Ad_Hoc> jesus IS god, Funkopath.
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