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This page is to help others and myself review peoples past statements and beliefs. The Lord is my witness that these are the statements in whole, unedited, and to the best of my knowledge not out of context either. If one says something on the web they should be willing to have it viewed by all, either that or they should stop saying what they say. In fact they should be perpared to have it reprinted here or in the daily newspaper for that matter... Some will say... "But you didn't enclude what stupid things Christians say as well." Oh! yes I did! Some I'm sure in time will have a problem with this page, so far those that know about it for the most part have shown support for it... and the others, the ones that don't like it or agree with it... tough titty said the momma cat to the kitty... don't come here. The only editing that will be done is if one does a "wame = same" typo correction. Some might say, well you'll just add false statements, lies about those that are against you or your God... it's my God that keeps me in check of false witnessing, and I don't take it lightly how Father views thoses that slander others. Some of these rooms have full time bots logging all the chats, if someone is in doubt about what they say, ask for the logs and you will see, you did say just that. Don't get so drunk you can't remember what you said next time, or what ever the cause might be that keeps you from remembering.
Nooooo I didn't enclude the stupid things I said, what ya think I'm stupid!!! LOL

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I get so few of them from the other side, had to post it and toot my horn! toot toot!
11/02/02 #cd [02:33] clikka> KingJehu, I hate giving compliments but you are as good an apologist as i've seen.
KingJehu> clikka. . . some say different :)
Servetus> KingJehu I hate giving compliments.........nope, can't think of any.
* Servetus elbows KingJehu
clikka> KingJehu, well your verse contributions are almost relevant..... and you can interupt without being rude...
KingJehu> clikka To be honest, I do get very rude sometimes. . . when my eyes start to tear up :)
clikka> KingJehu, oh I think you may have banned me once or twice but i forget such things.
KingJehu> clikka you? hmmmmm you always seem to be one of the more debate based and non rude people. . . never can i remember an insult from you. . . you must have had a off night :)
* Servetus notices clikka and KingJehu being all mushy mushy and gets tears in his eyes
clikka> KingJehu, no I don't change... my topics annoy some though
thinmann> I see glk wont respond to the very author he loves
clikka> thinman, glk is ok in my book as he usually stays civil
KingJehu> yes glk does. . .
KingJehu> and as long as he uses a nick infront of his post, glk's alright with me. . . well other then the burning in hell part which can tear my eyes up much like Servetus are now. . .
Ad_Hoc> you ALSO said: "* Servetus elbows KingJehu
* KingJehu pushes Servetus back!
Servetus> Hey
clikka> Servitus is an elbower.... please be carful if he is in a crowd..
* Servetus has stiletto elbows
* KingJehu says: okay buddy, me and you right now! I can take anyone with elbows like that!
Servetus> hehe

[05:24] Ad_Hoc> if the christian god exists, when I die and confront him, if he sends me to hell, I'll spit in his face and laugh every step of the way 11/03/02 #CD
You wouldn't be the first to spit on the Lord, but what makes you think you will have the time? Surely Christ would bob and weave as well.

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KingJehu> 'This is one of the worst cases of scientific fraud. It's shocking to find that somebody one thought was a great scientist was deliberately misleading. It makes me angry ... What he [Haeckel] did was to take a human embryo and copy it, pretending that the salamander and the pig and all the others looked the same at the same stage of development. They don't ... These are fakes.' (Michael Richardson, in an interview with Nigel Hawkes, The Times (London), p. 14, August 11, 1997. )
KingJehu> lies!
glk> KingJehu: He modified the drawings. THis error was exposed. That is how science works.
KingJehu> "he also fudged the scale to exaggerate similarities among species, even when there were 10-fold differences in size. Haeckel further blurred differences by neglecting to name the species in most cases, as if one representative was accurate for an entire group of animals." ... "Haeckel's confession got lost after his drawings were subsequently used in a 1901 book called Darwin and After Darwin and reproduced widely in English language biology texts. (Elizabeth Pennisi, Michael Richardson,
KingJehu> lies!
glk> KingJehu: Science fraud/error can be exposed by more and better science.
glk> glk> KingJehu: Recently, a scientist was caught faking his data about nano-electrical devices.
KingJehu> George Gaylord Simpson, world's foremost evolutionary paleontologist said, "The uniform, continuous transformation of Hyracotherium into Equus, so dear to the hearts of generations of textbook writers never happened in nature." (George G. Simpson, Life Of The Past, p.119)
KingJehu> more lies!
[00:06] * EleKtRikBLUe giggles @KingJehu
glk> KingJehu: A journal article later found to be wrong is officially withdrawn in later issues of the journal.
glk> Horses evolved in a more complex pattern then proposed in earlier journals.
KingJehu> "It is evolution that gives rhyme and reason to the story of the horse family as it exists today and as it existed in the past. Our own existence has the same rhyme and reason, and so has the existence of every other living organism. One of the main points of interest in the horse family is that it so clearly demonstrates this tremendously important fact." (Horses, G.G. Simpson, 1961, p. xxxiii)
KingJehu> again lies
KingJehu> so what tells me the new lies aren't just that glk. . .
KingJehu> Father :)
glk> KingJehu: One error does not refute the fact of evolution, any more than the wrong head on brontsaurus.
KingJehu> thats like three alone!
glk> KingJehu: Pioneers often make errors.
KingJehu> and i by no way am done
KingJehu> and they where out and out LIES glk
KingJehu> not mistakes'
they were fakes
glk> KingJehu: Lies and errors are a small part of modern science.
KingJehu> When asked to provide evidence of long-term evolution, most scientists turn to the fossil record. Within this context, fossil horses are among the most frequently cited examples of evolution. The prominent Finnish paleontologist Bjorn Kurten wrote: 'One's mind inevitably turns to that inexhaustible textbook example, the horse sequence. This has been cited -- incorrectly more often than not -- as evidence for practically every evolutionary principle that has ever been coined.'
KingJehu> This cautionary note notwithstanding, fossil horses do indeed provide compelling evidence in support of evolutionary theory." (The Fossil Record And Evolution: A Current Perspective, B. J. MacFadden Horses, Evol. Biol. ISBN: 22:131-158, 1988, p. 131)
glk> KingJehu: Piltdown was a fake too.
KingJehu> your best evidence went south glk. . .
KingJehu> by science itself!
glk> KingJehu: Fossils show evolution through the ages.
Sara_Ks> cant trust dem scientists
KingJehu> your best example was a lie!
KingJehu> Laughs Out Loud
glk> KingJehu: The sum of all science supports evolution. No observation refutes it.
KingJehu> science itself does by their lies!
KingJehu> we are no way done. . . either. we got a LONG way to go
KingJehu> ready to talk about the pepper moth glk. . .
KingJehu> I am.
glk> KingJehu: No science observation refutes the fact of evolution
KingJehu> ready to talk about the pepper moth glk. . .
glk> KingJehu: Tell us if each geological period had different species.
KingJehu> glk and lets bring up Archaeoraptor as well. . . okay. . . :P
KingJehu> lies lies lies!
glk> Geological Periods of the Earth. Pre-Cambrian, Cambrian, Ordovician, Silurian, Devonian, Mississippian, Pennsylvanian, Permian,/ Triassic, Jurassic, Cretaceous,/ Tertiary, Quaternary.
KingJehu> glk i have a better scale then that. . .
glk> KingJehu: Educate me about fossils and geology.
KingJehu> glk okay. . . environmental adoption is flawed as well too, because it takes many many years for this to happen yet the world is an every changing place, by the time the species evolved to adapt to the environment it would have changed!
[00:15] *** KingJehu changes topic to 'environmental adoption is flawed as well too, because it takes many many years for this to happen yet the world is an every changing place, by the time the species evolved to adapt to the environment it would have changed!'
glk> KingJehu: Major changes usually take a while. Sudden changes promote rapid evolution and massive extinction.
KingJehu> glk you would have 1000's of transitional forms fossilized at the very lest, you have millions of fossils and not one transitional fossil from one species to another... and there are 1000's of gaps in the evolutionary chain of fossilization, and not transitional forms, or you guys wouldn't have to have faked so many. lol.
glk> KingJehu: All past species are tranitionals or lead to extinction. That is a result of the law of genetic continuity.
KingJehu> Preambrian Time Archean Era 4600-2500 million years ago Proterozoic Era 2500-570 Phanerozoic Time Paleozoic Era Cambrian Period 570-505 Ordovician Period 505-438 Silurian Period 438-408 Devonian Period 408-360 Carboniferous Period 360-286 Permian Period 286-245 Mesozoic Era Triassic Period 245-208
KingJehu> Jurassic Period 208-144 Cretaceous Period 144-66.4 Cenozoic Era Tertiary Period Paleocene Epoch 66.4-57.8 Eocene Epoch 57.8-38.6 Oligocene Epoch 38.6-23.7 Miocene Epoch 23.7-5.3 Pliocene Epoch 5.3-1.6 Quarternary Period Pleistocene Epoch 1.6-0.01 Holocene Epoch 0.01-0
glk> KingJehu: The more fossils found, the more gaps produced.
KingJehu> glk no the more inline evolution should be proven!!!
KingJehu> thats a lie
glk> KingJehu: Most individuals do not fossilize.
glk> KingJehu: Fossilization is very rare.
KingJehu> the more fossiles found, the more proof would be of inline evolution glk. . . the more block you find to build a house the more it begins to look like a house
KingJehu> so thats a cop out too
glk> KingJehu: Some environments do not promote fossilization, like regions of rapid erosion and rain forests.
KingJehu> glk Fossilization is very rare YET you build your whole belief on it!!!
glk> KingJehu: Enough fossils are found to show the evolution process occurred.
glk> KingJehu: There are cubic miles of fossils. what do you want?
KingJehu> hhhmmmmm>? you build your whole theory on a rarity glk!
glk> KingJehu: Cubic miles of fossils are not a rarity. Some fossils are very rare.
KingJehu> [00:18] glk> KingJehu: Fossilization is very rare. <<< right there you admit it, yet claim to have proof it all fits!
GG_Allin> rare does not equal non existant
KingJehu> no one said it did GG_Allin
KingJehu> "It was disappointing to learn that Archaeoraptor may be a combination of animals," said Christopher Sloan, senior assistant editor of NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC and author of the magazine's article about the find, published last November. "But we're still convinced that Archaeoraptor is an important specimen. After all, if it is a composite, it is a composite of some very important 125 million-year-old fossils.
KingJehu> more lies
KingJehu> that like 8!
KingJehu> and they STILL tried to hang one to it even then!
KingJehu> Laughs Out Loud
glk> KingJehu: Science noted these frauds and errors. Science corrected them.
[00:23] * EleKtRikBLUe sips her beer and observes
KingJehu> glk so how do we know science isnt lying now?
KingJehu> because you "science" says so?
glk> KingJehu:Scientists check each other and note lies and errors.
KingJehu> i c
glk> KingJehu: Valid science produces good predictions. Bad science produces bad predictions.
KingJehu> man we are no way done yet either glk . .
glk> KingJehu: Valid science produces good predictions. Bad science produces bad predictions.
KingJehu> we got a LONG way to go. . .
glk> KingJehu: Good science is in agreement with lws of nature.
KingJehu> glk why dont they take the errors and frauds out of the text books? Alot of this is still in text books!
GG_Allin> such as?
glk> KingJehu: Older textbooks still had reports based on fraud and ewrror. Modern textbooks have fewer frauds and errors.
KingJehu> fewer frauds and errors???? well thats nice to know!
glk> KingJehu: If they stop printing textbooks, no frauds and errors will be printed.
KingJehu> glk if they know they are frauds. . . i mean. lol
glk> KingJehu: I have a book on orbit math by a world expert. i have noted and corrected about 30 errors so far.
KingJehu> glk so if you reprinted that book, you wouldn't keep the known frauds and errors so why do the text books?
glk> KingJehu: I might make a few errors if I reprinted the book. I would include no frauds.
KingJehu> glk yet you know as well as I that known frauds were still encluded in text books YEARS after them came to like. . .
GG_Allin> frauds such as what?
glk> KingJehu: List frauds in modern textbooks.
KingJehu> http://www.bible.ca/tracks/textbook-fraud-embryology-earnst-haeckel-biogenetic-law.htm#fraud
KingJehu> Evolutionary Biology, Douglas J. Futuyma, Third Edition, 1998 ISBN: 0-87893-189-9
KingJehu> has it as well glk
KingJehu> GG_Allin no we already know its a fraud. . . glk admits that. . . and so does all of science. . . and that same model is used even up to 98. . .
KingJehu> "Figure 20.7. All vertebrates have similar gill slits as embryos (upper diagrams).
KingJehu> thats not true!
KingJehu> yet still used
GG_Allin> Haeckel was guilty of overstating the similarity of embryos of different species, however that does not mean there are not many similarities between embryos of different species
KingJehu> lies!
KingJehu> GG_Allin science has proven that all vertebrates DO NOT have similar gill slits as embryos
glk> KingJehu: No science observation so far refutes evolution as a fact of nature
KingJehu> even after ALL these years
KingJehu> glk. . . you cant address the lies!
KingJehu> Be Back Later

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QED> cute nick ElmerFundie
ElmerFundie> shhhhhh be vwery vwery qwuiet. . . . I'm hunting atheists. . . errrrrr WABBITS! yeah wabbits.
QED> hehe
Yugipegas> lol
* QED hides.
Yugipegas> elmerfundie hehe
* QED tastes better in a fricasse
ElmerFundie> atheist season doesn't open up till the 3rd.
ElmerFundie> but i got my 10 bag permit already!
constans> funny
tzip> HERE you all are! :)
tzip> I was sitting on matrix aaaaaall by myself.
QED> Hi tzip
ElmerFundie> lock and load everyone. . .
constans> elmer: lol.
QED> lol
ElmerFundie> matrix does that matrix thing and avoids the rest of dalnet.
* tzip looks askance at ElmerFundie...... lock and load??
ElmerFundie> hunting talk. . .
ElmerFundie> like bait and cast. . . is troll talk.

ElmerFundie> mmmmmm. . . fried bologna folded in half and filled with processed cheese from the can. . . it don't get any better then this! I call it my redneck taco! mmmhhmmmm
ElmerFundie> I should just kick the lot of you. . . and start fresh. . .
bradmaj> Elmerfundie, me first
nEwCrEaTiOn> the sealed record of jfk will be opened in 2032. then all those who might have been involved will be dead or over 100. i wonder why people suspect a conspiracy
ElmerFundie> everyone knows JFK isn't dead and just living on some greek island. . . sheessshhh. . . with Monroe and Bobby. . . come on!
ChuckWagon> [ElmerFundie]: And Elvis.
Turba> and let's not forget Jimmy Hoffa either.
ElmerFundie> well yeah they have to have entertainment chuck :)
ChuckWagon> [ElmerFundie]: If I may be so bold, if they wanted entertainment, why would they want anything to do with Elvis????
A SHOT at the King! And I missed it! Arggggg!
ElmerFundie> WHY don't they fry the beans right the first time. . . I mean why refry them, whats going on there, and do they have to open all them cans, then recan them. . . you people never talk about the weighty matters in life! Things that are useful, like why don't they just fry the beans right the first time! Is it to drive up the cost?
bradmaj> Elmerfundie, they refry the ones they couldn't sell the night before
ElmerFundie> then can them?
ElmerFundie> so they can them unfried, then uncan them, then recan them. . . still I thinks its a scam to drive up the food cost. . .
bradmaj> After thney sit around all night, they get kinda gross. refrying them gives them a whole new texture. (Plus, they can now sell them to gulible gringoes)
bradmaj> "gringos..gringoes" However the heck you spell it
ElmerFundie> thats another thing. . . why fry beans anyway. . . why not be like everyone else and just bake the suckers . .
simeon> May I ask the take some here in channel might have on why Jonas ran from tarshish?
ElmerFundie> next thing ya know they will want to fry green tomatoes as well.
simeon> or refry beans
bradmaj> Elmerfundie.. fried green tomatoes=gross
ElmerFundie> simeon we already went over that one. . .
ElmerFundie> they do it to peddle bad product and drive up the cost as well.

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[01:37] 11/18 #CD Didache> Abuse of the body is not a good thing (obviously) - whether over-eating or certain drugs. However, that is not the same thing as saying it should be criminalised. It may not be healthy to be fat, but it should hardly be illegal - the same applies, I think, to at least the lesser drugs
ThyWillBeDone> ElmerFundie, escorts are glorified prostitutes
Akonyte> ElmerFundie I was an addict for almost 3 years, I think I know more about it that you do
ThyWillBeDone> ElmerFundie, the word speaks of all this. i think it refers to it as a reprobate mind. as the days of noah
ElmerFundie> Didache the lesser drugs, sure. . . pot, maybe shroons, hash, other then that. . . as one that has been on both sides of the street, being a junkie and helping other break that same addiction, I would say no, when your strung out, or on acid, your not in your right mind, and will at some point cause other people harm, whether behind a stearing wheel or with a gun because they turned into a huge bug before your very eyes, someone strung out, is not in a right state of mind.
Didache> Elmer .. there is a distinction here between decriminalising and legalising. I am not sure about legalising the class A drugs - but I would favour decriminalising them simply because it starts to treat it as a disease and not an offense
Didache> I have only smoked dope 5 times, and not for over 20 years - frankly, I would much rather have a decent beer :)
ElmerFundie> Didache over here we got enough drunks on the roads. . . stay where your at.
ElmerFundie> :P
christian_T> i think we should bring public humiliation back as a form of punnishment for crime
ElmerFundie> the T stands for Troll?
christian_T> the whole stocks and what-not seem to me to be very effective
ElmerFundie> just say nope to dope. . .
Akonyte> I use dope for what it was meant for, painting model airplane wings
Akonyte> yes, that is what dope is
Akonyte> Model airplane paint
ElmerFundie> no glue. . . dope is the glue. . .
ElmerFundie> and what ya put on the end of oil pipe threads as well. . . thats called dope too.
Akonyte> ElmerFundie yes, it is
Akonyte> and I don't smoke that either
Didache> in any case, without drugs, we would have missed great tracks like White Rabbit ;)
Akonyte> ElmerFundie So, lets be real, do you think I am a dope?
Akonyte> Didache yep, and Alice in Wonderland
ElmerFundie> Teenage Wasteland too Didache. . . and "Is anybody in there, just nod if you can hear me. . . is anybody home?"
Akonyte> ElmerFundie Well, I used to make model airplane with stretched wings and it was literally called dope
ElmerFundie> Akonyte hhhmmm well the stuff i sniff is call dope. . . but its airplane glue not paint.
Akonyte> ElmerFundie I learn somthing new everyday
ElmerFundie> Akonyte get the clear kind. . . its best.
adamfreed> plumbers use dope everyday
ElmerFundie> yuppers. . . they put it in the pipes too
PunctuatedEquilibrium> the pipes, really?
ElmerFundie> no they are wood working plumbers. . . no pipes.
Akonyte> ElmerFundie You know, I bet there are other definitions that neither of us know, I think I shall look it up
Akonyte> ElmerFundie - Chemistry. An absorbent or adsorbent material used in certain manufacturing processes, such as the nitroglycerin used in making dynamite.
Akonyte> I didn't now that one before
ElmerFundie> Akonyte well its like a tar base as well, called "dope" that you coat the drill pipe with as well, and thats not the thread dope so thats like five anyway. . . plus theres just the dope. . . dope and in like my brother who was kicked in the head by a horse and just hasnmt been right since. . . and well then dope as is "weed" too.
Akonyte> hahahaha
Calcedon> lol ElmerFundie
ElmerFundie> :P
* Akonyte now gets to watch ThyWillBeDone attack Ad_Hoc
Calcedon> I explained earlier we are talking about addictive narcotics,
Akonyte> ElmerFundie I think ThyWillBeDone is scikly funny
Akonyte> ElmerFundie Kinda like a Christian Benny Hill and Monty Python
Akonyte> ElmerFundie ThyWillBeDone makes me laugh and thank God I am the way I am
ElmerFundie> ugly?
ElmerFundie> your glad your ugly?
ElmerFundie> Just Kidding
Akonyte> yes, I thank God I am ugly
Akonyte> hahaha
ElmerFundie> :P
ElmerFundie> couldn't resist bro. . .


ElmerFundie> its the devils work!
Akonyte> Calcedon Its interactive with other people - something some people can't handle
Akonyte> ElmerFundie You always make me laugh at the right times
Ad_Hoc> I, personally, don't like the game as much as i like UO
PunctuatedEquilibrium> well I know a lot of people do enjoy braindead entertainment, that's why television has been so popular, not to say that there's never anything educational on it, but there's a lot of stupid crap there
Ad_Hoc> PunctuatedEquilibrium: if you think EQ is "braindead entertainment", you honestly don't know what you're talking about.
ElmerFundie> then theres that EQ cultist that man all them people drink thaty bad kool-aid. . . and. . errrr wait. . . oh NM that one.
Meno`> Ad_Hoc - it's brain dead entertainment. That doesn't mean it isn't fun to play. But there's nothing cerebral about it in any meaningful sense.
Ad_Hoc> PunctuatedEquilibrium: as I thought, you don't know what you're talking about.
Calcedon> Meno--I dissagree. It's quite a fun game, otherwise people wouldn't spend hard earned cash for it.
ElmerFundie> then theres that EQ cultist that where all held up in waco and. . . and. . errrr wait. . . oh never mind that one too.
Meno`> It's swords and sausages, guys. Come on, it may be fun but put it in perspective. :D
ElmerFundie> then theres that EQ cultist that blew up that building in O.K. City and. . . and. . errrr wait. . . oh never mind that one too.
PunctuatedEquilibrium> no I do know what I'm talking about I had several dumb friends that wasted countless hours on that stupid game
Calcedon> ElmerFundie--those guys played EQ?
ElmerFundie> Calcedon my point is I think we have more important things to worry about then if people play EQ
Akonyte> ElmerFundie Well, if a person is playing EQ, they are not murdering people, or molesting children, or robbing banks
ElmerFundie> Akonyte or blowing up buildings or held out in a compond or making people drink bad kool-aid
PunctuatedEquilibrium> all I said was that that game was stupid
Akonyte> ElmerFundie Yeah, that too!
Ad_Hoc> PunctuatedEquilibrium: a valueless opinion.
PunctuatedEquilibrium> well that game is valueless
Ad_Hoc> PunctuatedEquilibrium: wrong, obviously, since many people see value in it.
Calcedon> ElmerFundie--well, some people need an escape from 'reality'. Reality can be a drag. Although I must clarify I do not spend thousands of hours playing RPGs.
ElmerFundie> Calcedon. . . I do.
Calcedon> ElmerFudie--which one?
ElmerFundie> So they better just BACK OFF the RPGs!
ElmerFundie> Calcedon naaa just joking. . . dont know what you guys are even talking about. . .
ElmerFundie> i was just trolling. . . PunctuatedEquilibrium
Calcedon> hehe, thought so ElmerFundie.
sound_off`> Akonyte the reason ElmerFundie plays EQ is he has no other choice, he has to play those dumb games because of his mental level... Now one cannot condemn him for this lol
* ElmerFundie kicks sound_off` in the nads
sound_off`> but Akonyte ElmerFundie has no choice he has to play those kind of games hehe
PunctuatedEquilibrium> man ElmerFundie, that was mean
sound_off`> Akonyte it was just a joke man
BigBong> FAGGOTS DIRTY CHRISTIAN FAGGOTS!!! JESUS WAS A FAGGOT!!! A DIRTY BEARDED FAGGOT!!!!
ElmerFundie> PunctuatedEquilibrium thanks.
ElmerFundie> Calcedon see!
BigBong> FAGGOTSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ElmerFundie> your not opped!!!!
BigBong> DIRTY CHRISTIAN FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigBong> YOU MUST ALL HANG YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ElmerFundie> Calcedon your turn man
ElmerFundie> the bot might get him
BigBong> DIE FAGGOTS LIKE JESUS THE BEARDED FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*** ElmerFundie is now known as KingJehu
BigBong> FAGGOT
BigBong> JEHU U FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
* Akonyte waves bye to BigBong
BigBong> KING JEHU SUCKS C@CK LIKE A FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*** BigBong was kicked by KingJehu (KingJehu)
KingJehu sets mode: +b *!*@tysm.kmv.ru <<<< who is that? He needs to hit akick.
Calcedon> oops. was afk for a sec
Calcedon> sorry
KingJehu> yeah sureeeeeee
* Akonyte applauds an op for a change
Elmerfundie> Kenny G is da bomb!
Elmerfundie> wow lag burst. . . the IRC head rush
ThyWillBeDone> Akonyte, before my pastor became a christian he was a musician and was into the drug scene. when you are a musician you are around pot and alcohol and you either fit in or you are a geek nerd. he was into it and spoke just like you trying to justify his hidden demon. then the lord released him and now hes a pastor, praise God. he was given a second chance
Ad_Hoc> ThyWillBeDone: thanks for that interesting but completely irrelevant little anecdote.
Akonyte> hidden demon. haha. bipolar you frigging idiot
Ad_Hoc> actually, I lied. It wasn't interesting, either.
Akonyte> not some hidden demon
Akonyte> hidden demon.... I got stuck on that
Akonyte> LOL
Akonyte> idiot
Jarus> no name calling please
Ad_Hoc> Jarus, perhaps you could get ThyWillBeDone to stop telling people who have a medical illness that they have "demons"?
Jarus> ThyWillBeDone, so bipolar disorder is demonic?
Elmerfundie> no name calling? Then how should we address each other. . . heck 12th nick from the top?
Akonyte> Elmerfundie hahahahhahah LOLOLO
Akonyte> Elmerfundie Thanx, I now have to clean the coffee off my keyboard
Jarus> Ad_Hoc ... it isn't contrary to channel policy though
Akonyte> Elmerfundie Almost killed me hahahaha
Ad_Hoc> Jarus: no, it just makes him look very uneducated.


Deets> It's very typical of non-christians to say things like "typical of christians"....
Thats typical of him.

CHECK THIS OUT!JARUS vs DaKing


11/20/02 #cd: Jarus> Hmmm I can't think of any biblical text that prohibits child abuse
Sara_Ks> Jarus I can
Jarus> Sara_Ks, where?
Sara_Ks> Jarus child molestaion is sex outside of marriage
Sara_Ks> Jarus Love they neigbor......
Jarus> Sara_Ks, that is not a specific biblical text against child abuse
KingJehu> If anyone needs a bible verse to tell them child abuse is wrong, I would say they miss the WHOLE meaning and message of Christ. . .
ImaLDS> KingJehu, but what constitutes child abuse changes.
KingJehu: Mathew 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Jarus> KingJehu, of course it is wrong ... the point is that there is no specific biblical text that discusses for instance what is the appropriate age of consent etc or whether we can marry off children at the age of 3 and people can have sexual relations with a 3 year old simply because they are legally married etc
KingJehu> whats that?
KingJehu> seems there is Jarus
Jarus> KingJehu, seems there is not
KingJehu> But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
KingJehu> cripes I aint even going to debate that verse with you
KingJehu> if you cant understand the intent then so be it
Jarus> KingJehu, and it is a way out stretch to think that verse refers to sexual abuse of children
* Jarus shrugs ... he doesn't have to find everything in Scripture
KingJehu> oh sexual abuse of children isnt offending the child Jarus lol
ImaLDS> King Jehu, is sex with a 12 year old child abuse in a marital setting or following Gods Law
KingJehu> so we know you dont believe molesting a Child is offending the child. . .
Jarus> KingJehu, it can be .. but you wish to claim that the offense Jesus had in mind was specifically sexual abuse. And it doesn't provide any guidance as to age limits or anything like that
Jarus> KingJehu, rak off
KingJehu> Jarus your the one that says that verses isnt about sexual abuse so then it must not be an offence to sexually abuse a child? right? Or is it ?
Jarus> Of course molesting a child is an offense against a child
KingJehu> it has to be one of the two
KingJehu> then that verse is for that as well
* Jarus shrugs .. KingJehu is an evil twister of people's words
KingJehu> Mathew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
KingJehu> thats sexual abuse and any other kind
KingJehu> oh so?
KingJehu> your the one that said that isnt about sexual abuse
KingJehu> not me
Jarus> KingJehu, I said it doesn't directly address it .. I am not speaking evil like you are
[07:22] Jarus> KingJehu, and it is a way out stretch to think that verse refers to sexual abuse of children
KingJehu> NO THATS what you said
Jarus> KingJehu, if you think that, that really is beyond the intent of the verse
KingJehu> NO THATS what you said
Jarus> KingJehu, only a complete little sh*t like you would accuse me of saying that molestation is not offensive
[07:27] *** KingJehu sets mode: +b *!*jarus@*.ains.net.au
[07:27] *** Jarus was kicked by KingJehu (KingJehu)

CHECK THIS OUT! We got called to one of the vice-principles offices...


*** Now talking in #mikesden
Jarus> I will not stand for KingJehu claiming i approve of child molestation.
soulseeker> i have it all on log
soulseeker> every word
Jarus> So KingJehu can go and drop dead
Didache^> do so if you like-just keep it out of channel.. I don't want to deop anyone but i really would have no choice
soulseeker> I just got back. . .
soulseeker> so if anything was said i missed it
Didache quote's what was said.
Jarus> KingJehu you are really and evil and despicable man
Didache^> whoa! we better sort THIS one out
Didache^> get if off your chest in here but not in channel
Jarus> Whoa nothing- I think KingJehu is a totally despicable shit
Didache^> Jarus what ever your views are you know better then to say that in channel
Jarus> Yes I do and I was wrong to do so
Jarus> Fine.. I intend to keep it out of channel.. my mistake to have said anything like that
Jarus> but from this point on I am placing KingJehu on permanent ignore
*** soulseeker has joined #mikesden
Didache^> thats all
soulseeker> heh
Didache^> lol
Jarus> Decide what ever you want and memoserv me
Jarus> I have KingJehu on ignore and do not ever intend to chat with him again
soulseeker> best thing
Didache^> Jarus the ban has been lifted. Come back. It is over and done with as far as I am concerned
Jarus> ok
soulseeker is now known as KingJehu
Session Closed: Wen. Nov. 20 07:33:29 2002
Perhaps I pushed it a bit to far? Naaaaaa!

CHECK THIS OUT!Someone let ElmerFundie out again!


11/20/02 #CD [09:58] mr-chips> morning..
mr-chips> LOL ElmerFundie --- What a nick... just the thing for this channel. lololol
ElmerFundie> :P bet ya can guess who i am too. . .
mr-chips> hehehh
mr-chips> WoHO... Looks like we got a choice --- Become muslem or brush up some on target shooting.. :)
ElmerFundie> Laughs Out Loud
ElmerFundie> well since I have such a good start on the last choice. . . think I would be better off with it.
mr-chips> Well, guess its time to get my m16 out of storage. :)
ElmerFundie> pretty arrogant of the fellow. . . to say the least. . .
mr-chips> yup...
mr-chips> Cant say for elsewhere but here ol Ben will bite off more than he can handle with some of these beer gussling redneck gun owners here. :)
ElmerFundie> like were all going to run down to the local mosque and join up because he said to or die. . .
BballPlayer> any baptist here?
ElmerFundie> I will play the baptist today. . . if ya want. . . I'm game.
* mr-chips dont play the denomation game... Either your christian or not. simple..
ElmerFundie> tomorrow though I get to be the catholic. . . too.
ElmerFundie> and fridays, well thats always a good day to play a JW. . .
mr-chips> lol
mr-chips> Gotta toss in LDS just to be fair too. :)
ElmerFundie> monday is open. . . lol
sloop> ElmerFundie what is your other nick?
ElmerFundie> soulseeker
sloop> ahhhhhhhhh :)
ElmerFundie> or ChristianWarrior
ElmerFundie> or KINGJEHU !
ElmerFundie> take your pick
sloop> KingJerhu!!! lol
ElmerFundie> :P
sloop> The man of many faces
ElmerFundie> Saturday is always the day to play SDA, cause they cant be in here. . . to refute me
sloop> lol
mr-chips> heheheh
sloop> I use to have a teacher aide who was SDA.....some interesting convos. Nice girl.
ElmerFundie> alot of them are almost like regular folks huh. . .
sloop> hahahaha
ElmerFundie> Laughs Out Loud
ElmerFundie> Just Kidding
sloop> I can remember discussing the "saturday' bit with her
ElmerFundie> some dont like ya to bring that up. . .
sloop> they don't?
ElmerFundie> nopers, not the way I bring it up anyway. . .
sloop> ElmerFundie welllllllllllll
ElmerFundie> Laughs Out Loud
sloop> lol
sloop> She didn't seem to mind, but her argument was questionable to me
sloop> All I can remember is refering back to what St. paul said when everyone was arguing about which day was the Sabbath........
ElmerFundie> <<< 8th day without a smoke! ARGGGGGGG!
sloop> ElmerFundie Congrats!!!!
* sloop is glad she isn't living with ElmerFundie righ tnow :)
ElmerFundie> thanks. . . two more days to go. . .
ElmerFundie> then i start up again!!!
sloop> 2 more days, and what?
ElmerFundie> then i start up again!!!
az0th> haha
sloop> noooooooooooooooooo
sloop> why?
ElmerFundie> yeah i smoke for ten days then stop for ten days, I like the torture
sloop> ElmerFundie sort of like a hairshirt. huh?
simeon> Have you quit ElmerFundie?
ElmerFundie> naaaaaa this time, God will is the last time I have to go through this.
* sloop gives ElmerFundie a big pat on the back....I know how hard i is to quit.
lmerFundie> as an xjunkie I can say for sure, in the long run stopping cigs is harder

over in #c_D
Andromeda^> ElmerFundie: that's a funny nick. =)
ElmerFundie> shhhhhhh be vwery vwweryyy qwuiet. . . I'm hunting atheist. . . eeerrrr no Wabbits! Thats it, yeah wabbits. . .
ElmerFundie> atheist season doesnt open up till the 3rd. . . but I already have my permit!
Andromeda^> Elmer: what would you say to convince them to become theists?
ElmerFundie> Andromeda^ I just point my double barrels at them. . . that or get them in a headlock

CHECK THIS OUT!IguanaTwin can not use websites in a debate, so if catch'em in a corner and he tries to use one, post this to the room, this is just why these pages are here, some of us get tired of them saying one thing one week and another thing the next.


11/30/02 #CD [00:54] KingJehu> IguanaTwin you were the one that was discounting a site just because it was Christian, not me, seems you were defending evolution, and saying, well thats a Chrisian site, so it has to be a lie, yet now when I want to talk abuot all the lies scientist have tried to make us swallow all of the sudden your not so wanting to talk about who lies and who doesn't ?
IguanaTwin> King....I discount ANY site with a preset agenda
* Servetus has a lot of gas LOL had to throw that in, has nothing to do with the debate. . . though
KingJehu> IguanaTwin so then that would be all gays sites as well
IguanaTwin> YES
KingJehu> IguanaTwin: King....I discount ANY site with a preset agenda
IguanaTwin> YES
KingJehu> so then dont ever cite a webpage again IguanaTwin :)
* Matrikx hands Servsatus a roll of Tums
IguanaTwin> thats what I said King
Servetus> IguanaTwin you may discount it, but that does not show that the date on those sites is flawed
IguanaTwin> King...when did I?
KingJehu> IguanaTwin no I am saying in the future. . . I have this logs and posting it
KingJehu> so as to not let you cite any pages come say next month. . .

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