[Note: Emphasis in email thread added by me]
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Teare
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:26 AM
To: Strategic Marketing
Subject: IBM Call Report
Hi All
This is a call report on our meeting at IBM on
Wednesday.
Attendance:
IBM: Marianne Caponnetto (VP WorldWide Media); John T
Lane (Director Digital Media) Todd Martin (Privacy
expert)
RealNames: Keith Teare; Lou Mohn; Joe Furrier
The meeting was at the Armonk HQ. It was due to run
11am-12 noon but ran 1 hour longer, through to 1pm.
Joe Furrier had done a presentation. The goal was to
get IBM to give worldwide buy-in to our product, and
to integrate it into all offline marketing materials.
Marianne started the meeting by stating that her goal
was to understand how she could use internet keywords
to improve the ROI of her worldwide TV, Radio, Print
and Outdoor spend. Also how she could measure that ROI
improvement. She wanted to be strategic, not tactical.
We began the presentation (Joe will forward this to
you all). Within a short space of time Marianne
interrupted and wanted to know how Internet Keywords
fits into the whole direction of Internet Naming.
Here we outlined two key points:
1. The DNS world, under the control of ICANN, is
planning to introduce many new gTLD's [Generic top
level domains]. .com will be joined by .web, .store,
and many others. This will further confuse internet
users. Nobody will know whether IBM is .com or some
other dot.
2. The brand, product, service, company will become
much harder to find in that world. Internet Keywords
represents a more coherent strategy for companies as
regards future naming conventions. Country and
Language namespaces, within which brands and products
can be typed into the browser in an unmodified form,
will meet the needs of users, and marketers.
Given these two possible futures Marianne was VERY
enthusiastic about the benefits of the second.
We then continued with the presentation: As she became
aware of the extent of Microsoft's browser share [80%]
she was increasingly impressed with our product. We
paused and made another significant point:
1. RealNames has 2 [and perhaps 3] years to prove that
an internet keyword system is desired by the market.
If we do so Microsoft will be unable to back off from
delivering the service to browser users. If we fail,
then Microsoft will probably discontinue support for the
service. This would be a bad thing for brands because (a)
The many dots world will survive. and (b) Microsoft will
try and squeeze cash from the browser itself - at the
expense of brands. Therefore IBM has a major strategic
reason for wanting RealNames to succeed.
This worked incredibly well.
We proceeded with the presentation. The next
significant point was surrounding our pricing. When
asked we were very open that we are still learning
what the value of the product is. We have two pricing
models. One is very structured [service fee; per
keyword fee; resolutions], the other is very simple [%
of marketing budget, probably 1%]. This led to an
interesting discussion. Marianne clearly preferred the
% of marketing budget (in my view) as it was simple to
administer and control. She fully agreed that the
keywords enhanced the value of the marketing spend and
to that extent deserved a % of it. However she wanted to
know how we would prove the ROI improvement.
There were two part to the answer. These didn't meet
with any objections.
1. The ROI improvement is obvious and needs no
measurement by RealNames. IBM will see it in (a)
Stronger awareness (b) Loyalty from Customers (c)
Return Visitors (d) Brand strength. These are all
measurable by IBM against its own goals. The keyword
will add more or less value based on how well it is implemented.
A good execution may improve ROI 100%, a bad execution [like
the Panasonic Show Stopper ad in USA Today] might not improve it
at all.
2. RealNames will agree to be measured by whatever
IBM's marketing goals are. If the goal of a specific
campaign is response, the that is our KPI. If the goal
is awareness of IBM's ecommerce strategy then that
will be our KPI. IBM will measure this is its
traditional ways. We truly believe we will support ANY
marketing goal. The key is creative execution.
It became clear at this point that IBM are VERY
interested in convergence tracking. They raised this -
not us. We explained to them how keywords can help
measure offline effectiveness. This is KEY to them
We then moved back to the presentation. At this point
the issue of privacy came up. They were particularly
sensitive to the fact that through knowledge of the IP
number of the user (now that with DSL and Cable there
are static IP's) we will know a lot about the user
profile. They wanted to know how we were handling
privacy. We told them about the policy advisory board
and our TrustE relationship. This led to a discussion
of the PAB. They said they would like to investigate
joining (alongside Microsoft).
Overall this was a lengthy part of the discussion and
we came out of it very well.
The final part of the discussion was the rest of the
presentation - focused on our international growth.
Our ability to be used as part of IBM's international
strategy was clearly crucial to them.
The meeting wrapped up with next steps:
Marianne was very keen for a presentation of Internet
Keywords - from the highly strategic down to the
tactical - to Ogilvy & Mather [at a very high level]
including creative and IBM's account managers. This
will result in specific deal discussions. She will
also assemble some of the key brand people at IBM for
this presentation.
We also flagged IBM with a potential for partnership
in the intranet space. Keith and John Lane will liaise
on this.
Overall a very successful meeting. Great presentation
from Joe and great buy-in from IBM. We are going to do
a big deal with these guys during the next 90-120 days
(my opinion).
- Keith
[Of course, this deal never happened. Another total fucking shocker]