(ed. note: I think I must have made some reference to the differences between US and NZ culture at this point)
chat_guest2001: By the way, there were many references to other films
chat_guest2001: such as the Wizard of OZ
blacky_blacky: for instance...
chat_guest2001: when Brogard says "you're not in Kansas anymore"
chat_guest2001: and a lot of people on the site (i.e. the Studios USA message board)
didn't understand the reference
jackaltrades: Oh yea, the Aunty Em scene at the end of "Lady Liberty" bummer2323: i wondered if the mask in monkey business was real, the one jack pulls out of his vest, there has been some controversy. indianajgirl44: hehehehe
chat_guest2001: Jack woke up at one point and said "Auntie Em!"
Jordi32196: Hey, CROQUE said the Kansas line ROTFL
chat_guest2001: Then there were the references to "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea"
Mayfair51: And the "Planet of the Apes" with the statue...
Shirley_LeVasseur: and Planet of the Apes
blacky_blacky: ive noticed several of those myself but thats part of the fun!!!
jackaltrades: I was wondering if some of the references to American pop culture were understood by everyone on the set: especially the references to American products like Captain Crunch
chat_guest2001: all the Pacific Renaissance shows have that satiric bent
bummer2323: I love those little bits
chat_guest2001: Its partly to do with the fact that they were over here looking back at the US culture
bummer2323: leggo my eggos!
chat_guest2001: the writers used the structure of the shows to comment on what was happening in America at the time
Mayfair51: Silly Ribbitt..Hee,hee!
blacky_blacky: that was just hilarious!!!
indianajgirl44: yep!!!
bummer2323: LOL
jackaltrades: (Speaking of the 20 000 Leagues Under the Sea reference in Shark Bait, the giant squids come into play: in the movie/book the Nautilus was attacked by one...
chat_guest2001: Not all of them
Shirley_LeVasseur: what would JOAT's 2nd season have been like? I heard they were considering changes.
chat_guest2001: Bruce had to explain some of the references
blacky_blacky: how could anyone not notice that the daring dragoon was a woman???
Jordi32196: Croissan'wiches and French fries...
chat_guest2001: but we get so many American shows here
chat_guest2001: that we are accustomed to much of it
jackaltrades: (Same situation here in Canada!)
chat_guest2001: we've been getting shows back to "I Love Lucy"
chat_guest2001: Canada is very similar to NZ
chat_guest2001: we have a large neighbor to the west as they do to the south
chat_guest2001: ours is Australia
bummer2323: LOL...but don't confuse the two...one of my bf is from NZ...
chat_guest2001: Russell Crowe has now been "taken" by the Australians as one of theirs
bummer2323: LOL....
chat_guest2001: but he's of course a New Zealander!
bummer2323: don't blame them
blacky_blacky: tell me something....why didnt jack and emilia ever get together? That was one of the biggest bloopers!!!!
indianajgirl44: hahahaha!!! i know!!!
chat_guest2001: On Jack and Emilia...
bummer2323: Bruce didnt want it to go the way of Moonlighting....
chat_guest2001: Isn't the tension
chat_guest2001: and the possibility
chat_guest2001: of their getting together
chat_guest2001: the thing that keeps the show going?
Mayfair51: I agree!
chat_guest2001: it's like Mulder and Scully
bummer2323: love the tension!
chat_guest2001: "The Nanny" and her employer
blacky_blacky: i know but what would it have hurt for them to kiss once!!!!!
indianajgirl44: yeah!
chat_guest2001: the whole "will they or won't they?" thing
Jordi32196: I think leaving the possibilities was good for fanfic.
Shirley_LeVasseur: No, the Governor keeps the show going!
Mayfair51: But, hey, one laways hopes
bummer2323: i wonder if they ever read the fanfic?
jackaltrades: Another way in which it compares favorably to X-Files instead of MoonLighting is that both characters were more equals
Shirley_LeVasseur: like Col. Klink & Schultz
blacky_blacky: dont distract him!!!
chat_guest2001: Producers and distributors understand that the potential for
it...
chat_guest2001: sells better than the actuality of it
blacky_blacky: in other words...to tease is better than to please!!! hahaha
Mayfair51: Still they cancelled it!
bummer2323: LOL
chat_guest2001: blacky_blacky - you should be a producer!
blacky_blacky: nah...id drive the stars crazy..but i would have loved to watch you guys film an episode!!!
Jordi32196: I think that's a good Q, bummer. DO any of the actors ever read the fan fiction?
Shirley_LeVasseur: BTW, Merry Christmas Stuart :)
bummer2323: too bad they couldn't have at least wrapped the show a bit....
indianajgirl44: yeah
jackaltrades: Who came up with the idea for both you and Bruce to snap your fingers in unison in the scene from One Wdding and An Execution?
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chat_guest2001: No, Jordi - I haven't seen any fan fiction yet....
bummer2323: love that scene
Jordi32196: (Not that I have any personal interest, LOL...)
japjoea: Hello
bummer2323: too bad, there's some good stuff out there, stuart!
bummer2323: LOL...Jordi...
blacky_blacky: love that episode!!!! Bruce is awesome as a man but as a woman....he is awesome as a man!!!!
japjoea: I was able to return for awhile
Jordi32196: *vbeg*
bummer2323: hey, joe
chat_guest2001: On the snapping....
(ed. note: here Mr. Devenie began speaking more rapidly, as we'd obviously touched on a fond memory. This led to more of his general theories on improvisation and the comfort level actors have with one another. I managed to type in perhaps 20% of all he said. L This is clearly something he feels very strongly about!)
chat_guest2001: it happened by accident in an earlier episode, during rehearsal, I think
chat_guest2001: Bruce mimiced me
japjoea: Hey bummer
chat_guest2001: Angie picked it up
Jordi32196: LOL!
indianajgirl44: hehehe
chat_guest2001: so we actually did it on the take
chat_guest2001: it became a thing we used from time to time
bummer2323: this is so cool, to learn these inside things
Shirley_LeVasseur: heehee
Mayfair51: Cool indeed!
japjoea: OMG
blacky_blacky: like brogard flirting with "Jacqueline?"
chat_guest2001: That ties in with the whole improvisational thing
chat_guest2001: it came from rehearsal
chat_guest2001: it worked really well
jackaltrades: I thought it worked very well... + was kind of echoed in the last episode "70 Brides" in the scene where both the governor + Brogard start laughing madly
chat_guest2001: so we put it in
japjoea: Cool
Mayfair51: I missed the last episode:(
chat_guest2001: Exactly.
bummer2323: don't feel bad, i missed pokey
jackaltrades: (It'll replay the week of Jan. 16th I think)
chat_guest2001: I did something, Stephen took it up
chat_guest2001: It was part of the improv thing
chat_guest2001: It made the show exciting
bummer2323: yep!
chat_guest2001: You didn't necessarily know where the scene was going
Mayfair51: That made Joat unique
chat_guest2001: an actor would make the offer
Jordi32196: Some of the funniest scenes were around the Governor's dinner table. What was it like filming those?
blacky_blacky: what was the episode where you and bruce first did the finger snapping?
chat_guest2001: and the others would take it away
chat_guest2001: that's a general feature of shows where the actors are very
happy working with each other
japjoea: What made you finally decide to use it.
jackaltrades: As the episodes progressed, I noticed more of the characters coming together as an ensemble.
chat_guest2001: Last night we watched an "expose" on "Eight Is Enough" (ed. note: surely this would be the recent E! Hollywood Profile)
chat_guest2001: clearly 8 was not enough
chat_guest2001: they ended up with 14 lead characters, with each struggling to get screen
time from the others, and only 5 minutes with each one
jackaltrades: (Or perhaps, far TOO much!)
bummer2323: LOL
japjoea: Would nine have worked
chat_guest2001: whereas on shows like Seinfeld and Friends - the actors clearly are
having a good time and enjoying their work
chat_guest2001: it has a lot to do with respect
chat_guest2001: and trust
Shirley_LeVasseur: if only there were a 2nd season (and 3rd, and 4th...)
chat_guest2001: and not being afraid to make a fool of yourself!
Mayfair51: How did the actors take the cancellation news?
chat_guest2001: which the writers of JoAT took to the limit!
jackaltrades: (Shirley, I'm still depressed thinking about what could have been...)
(ed. note: at this stage, Mr. Devenie took a break, and put his "landlady" on the line, who
proceeded to inform me that she was on her second cup of tea - this time it was Green tea
, not Earl Grey. I then spent a few minutes explaining to her exactly what the chat consisted
of, and what I was seeing on the computer screen. She was very exciting about coming to
America for her first fan convention, and wondered if anyone would be interested in buying
her cd - I suggested she ask the chatters, which she did, causing much excitement.
The "guess who it is" stuff is me, not her!)
chat_guest2001: We have a mystery guest
Shirley_LeVasseur: (me too, JalT)
japjoea: I'm just glad that have the eps that we do.
chat_guest2001: guess who it is?
Mayfair51: Yikes!
indianajgirl44: ?!
blacky_blacky: who is the guest?
Shirley_LeVasseur: er.. Bubbles?
Mayfair51: Hint!
japjoea: Another one!!
bummer2323: ack, the suspense
jackaltrades: ????? Enter and sign in please
Shirley_LeVasseur: Candy?
chat_guest2001: not a "Jack" performer
Shirley_LeVasseur: no?
Mayfair51: Now I'm confused!
indianajgirl44: uh........
jackaltrades: Anyone associated with the show is welcome!
bummer2323: >>>>??????
Mayfair51: A writer?
japjoea: Ted or Sam!
chat_guest2001: no
japjoea: Damn, well I tried
indianajgirl44: who?!
Mayfair51: Director!
bummer2323: josh?
japjoea: Please, your killing me!!
Shirley_LeVasseur: janitor!
bummer2323: LOL
indianajgirl44: hehehe
chat_guest2001: guesses?
jackaltrades: The horse wrangler!
Mayfair51: I'm dying in here
jackaltrades: The hog wrangler (from Hamnesia)?
bummer2323: Nutcracker himself?
chat_guest2001: the guest is giggling....
japjoea: The wardrobe designer
blacky_blacky: mr nipples???
indianajgirl44: hahahah!!!
jackaltrades: Jean Claude flew in...?
Shirley_LeVasseur: MR NIPPLES!
bummer2323: ack...mr nipples
japjoea: HAHAHAHA
Shirley_LeVasseur: Jean Claude?
japjoea: O.k., now we have lost our minds
chat_guest2001: not a Jack performer or crew at all
jackaltrades: (Our feathered talking friend!)
japjoea: Kevin Sorbo
blacky_blacky: come on a better hint!!!
chat_guest2001: A performer from Xena
Mayfair51: Hint, please!
bummer2323: what about laurel
Shirley_LeVasseur: an executive producer?
blacky_blacky: nardo????
indianajgirl44: xena.....................?
chat_guest2001: Not Laurel
Mayfair51: Cleo!
japjoea: Gabby
jackaltrades: Initials???
Shirley_LeVasseur: from Xena! hmm..
chat_guest2001: not Cleo
chat_guest2001: not Sorbo
indianajgirl44: he said from xena!!
chat_guest2001: (he's in Canada)
bummer2323: Renee O Connor
Mayfair51: Gabrielle!
chat_guest2001: not Renee, but closer
Mayfair51: He?
japjoea: I just said that!!
jackaltrades: Which part of Canada (it's a huge land!)
Shirley_LeVasseur: you're killing us!
bummer2323: LUCY
chat_guest2001: No, Sorbo is in Canada
Mayfair51: What
blacky_blacky: Michael???
t_antares2000: kevin smith
Shirley_LeVasseur: Hori Apihene :)
jackaltrades: Ohhh.... Kevin Smith....? I heard he once filmed an episode up here?
japjoea: Callisto
blacky_blacky: The king of Thieves????????
indianajgirl44: i'm gonna die from suspense!!!
chat_guest2001: here's a clue
Shirley_LeVasseur: glarrrgh
chat_guest2001: short (ed. note: that was her suggestion!)
japjoea: O.K.
chat_guest2001: female
indianajgirl44: short???
bummer2323: ????
Mayfair51: Not Verne?
t_antares2000: verne?
chat_guest2001: same height as Renee O'Connor (ed. note: that is about 5'4")
indianajgirl44: hehehehe
japjoea: i'M LOST
jackaltrades: Well that's not Nappy!
chat_guest2001: she was on WGN tonight
Mayfair51: Hercules sidekick?
Mayfair51: She?
Shirley_LeVasseur: Danielle?
japjoea: EVE
chat_guest2001: Not Danielle
chat_guest2001: Not Eve
Shirley_LeVasseur: hmmmm
indianajgirl44: i give up!!!
Shirley_LeVasseur: oh for godsakes ;)
jackaltrades: Is she Canadian herself (from southwest Ontario?)
japjoea: Hope (Just kidding
chat_guest2001: So it's.......
Mayfair51: WHO::::
chat_guest2001: Darien Takle - Cyrene (Xena's mum)
japjoea: SHOOT ME... SHOOT ME NOW!!!
Mayfair51: Hi, there!
chat_guest2001: She is Stuart's landlady when he's in Auckland
Shirley_LeVasseur: whoa!!!!!
indianajgirl44: hi!!!
Mayfair51: So nice of you to join us!
jackaltrades: Oh yes... just saw her in a recent Xena episode where X does battle with Mephistopheles
japjoea: Very cool indeed!! Welcom to our humble chat room.
Shirley_LeVasseur: hi Darien!
{ed. note: now it's pretty much all Ms. Takle; as the some of the chatters present weren't as familiar with "Xena," in some cases she's actually responding to something I may have asked her.}
chat_guest2001: Hi all!
bummer2323: COOl
indianajgirl44: hello!!
jackaltrades: Hello + thanks very much for attending this chat!
bummer2323: nice to talk to you
chat_guest2001: This is just amazing to be doing this from my bedroom floor
japjoea: It's not much, but I hope you enjoy your stay.
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chat_guest2001: it's a bit quieter here
chat_guest2001: Stuart has gone up front
chat_guest2001: I'm drinking a cup of green tea
chat_guest2001: I had earl grey earlier
bummer2323: ewwww.
indianajgirl44: o
chat_guest2001: so, anyone have any questions?
jackaltrades: (Hmmm... if Jack were here he'd make some double entendre about "doing it on the bedroom floor" :)
japjoea: I have to ask, what is it like working with Lucy Lawless?
Mayfair51: What tim is it there?
Mayfair51: Time!
chat_guest2001: On Lucy...
chat_guest2001: It's great!
japjoea: 8:46
chat_guest2001: She's a real pro
bummer2323: what do you think of the weird turn xena has taken??
chat_guest2001: she always makes time to chat
chat_guest2001: about our children
chat_guest2001: which is great
japjoea: Is her voice as good in person as it sound on T.V.?
chat_guest2001: Her voice - YES! very much so
chat_guest2001: she has a good sort of cackly laugh
bummer2323: What's it like working with Bruce Campbell....yep an obvious question....
chat_guest2001: which is great
chat_guest2001: On Bruce....
jackaltrades: (Bummer - I was just going to ask that myself!)
bummer2323: LOL
chat_guest2001: I worked with him in "It Takes One To Know One"
chat_guest2001: It was such fun
bummer2323: LOL
chat_guest2001: I decided that Cyrene was sweet on his character
bummer2323: it was fun to watch too! love the scene where auto gives here the jewels
chat_guest2001: so we had a bit of double entendre
bummer2323: cool!
indianajgirl44: duh!!!
bummer2323: just got married
indianajgirl44: hehehehe
jackaltrades: (I think she just got married a little while back.)
chat_guest2001: She didn't get Auto upstairs, but he did give her the diamonds
bummer2323: LOL...well, one out of two aint bad...
chat_guest2001: on Renee
chat_guest2001: I love Renee
bummer2323: although giving the choice....
chat_guest2001: She's the same height as I am!
chat_guest2001: she likes going to plays
chat_guest2001: she has an interest in Shakespeare
japjoea: I must go cry now {Walks around and starts to bang head on wall}
chat_guest2001: and I've done a lot of Shakespeare lately
bummer2323 gives
chat_guest2001: so we had good talks about that
indianajgirl44: wutz wrong w/ u jap?
chat_guest2001: she's very giving
chat_guest2001: and the same same with Lucy really
chat_guest2001: very giving in a scene
bummer2323: can't believe they killed off cyrene and joxer....grumble
bummer2323 mumbles incoherently
chat_guest2001: She'll say "If you want me to do anything, just tell me"
japjoea: Thank you Bummer
t_antares2000: got to go, bye everyone. thanks for setting up the chat.
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chat_guest2001: in "It Takes One To Know One," we often made up little funny
things in rehearsal
jackaltrades: Which Shakespeare plays have you been performing in?
bummer2323: OH, what did you make up?
japjoea: That was very upseting, Ted is such a great actor and deserved
better
chat_guest2001: like my slapping Lucy's hand when she was reaching for a piece
of fruit
bummer2323: cool!
chat_guest2001: she said "I love that! Lets' do it!"
bummer2323: just like a mom
chat_guest2001: so we did.
bummer2323: if fit
chat_guest2001: Shakespeare...
chat_guest2001: Lady Macbeth
japjoea: It worked great
chat_guest2001: Gertrude in Hamlet
chat_guest2001: in the past, many others
chat_guest2001: I loved playing Lady M. {Ed. note: here Ms. Takle referred actually to "the Scottish play"
and to "Lady M.," as there is an old theatrical custom of never speaking the name of the play, as it's bad luck to do so. So she hoped that
she didn't cause the lines to crash, but we decided that the bad luck mainly applies to things done inside theatres, and backstage in particular!}
bummer2323: she'd be good at it, too!
japjoea: Hey, I asked Stewrt earlier, I hope you can answer this also. I am a
begining actor. What advise would you be able to give me.
jackaltrades: (It's certainly a powerful role... gives the performer lots to
work with)
bummer2323: yep
chat_guest2001: to japjoea
chat_guest2001: get into everything
chat_guest2001: when there's an opportunity, either observing or backstage
chat_guest2001: just get in there
chat_guest2001: get the experience
japjoea: I am begining improv classes in feb
Shirley_LeVasseur: what are your career plans now? are you currently involved
in a project?
chat_guest2001: I have done a lot of teaching too
japjoea: And normal acting lesson now
chat_guest2001: and I write plays for my students
chat_guest2001: so go out and find everything
chat_guest2001: and just get into it
bummer2323: she's cool, isn't she?
indianajgirl44: sure is ;)
Mayfair51: Great advice!
bummer2323: coming to the states any time soon?
chat_guest2001: I just last week finished a show called "Nuncrackers"
japjoea: She's great
bummer2323: Nuncrackers???
chat_guest2001: I played Sister Mary Hubert
Shirley_LeVasseur: NUNcrakers?
Shirley_LeVasseur: lol
chat_guest2001: (Christmas-themed sequel to "Nunsense")
Mayfair51: I saw that one!
Mayfair51: Hilarious!
bummer2323: was it here??
chat_guest2001: I'm off to do a play...
bummer2323: i hadn't heard of it
Mayfair51: Did they ever bury that nun?
chat_guest2001: ...called "The Wedding Party"
Mayfair51: She was left in a freezer,LOL!
japjoea: Yes it was, but it had one of the golden girls in it. I know her
first name is rue
chat_guest2001: Then a feature film, before appearing in Pasadena for the Xena convention
chat_guest2001: It's called "Christmas"
jackaltrades: (Rue McClanahan (spelling?))
chat_guest2001: 3 weeks up in Whangerei
chat_guest2001: where Stuart comes from
japjoea: That's it, thank you!
Shirley_LeVasseur: any amusing anectdotes from working with Renpix?
jackaltrades: Is that the North island?
Shirley_LeVasseur: (I can't spell tonight)
chat_guest2001: My agent rang and lined me up for the Convention in Pasadena
bummer2323: darnit these conventions nver come clsoe enougt to me! can't
spell anymore, apparently, either
japjoea: I have to leave for real this time. Thank you very much for your
advise, and I hope to see you in future projects very soon. Merry Christmas
and Happy New Year!
chat_guest2001: I may bring a copy of my CD with me to the convention
bummer2323: CD????
jackaltrades: (Bye JJ)
chat_guest2001: songs I've sung in shows
bummer2323: bye, yet again, joe
chat_guest2001: It's called "No Regrets"
bummer2323: cool, what's on it??
indianajgirl44: c-ya jap
chat_guest2001: a sort of musical autobiography
chat_guest2001: songs include:
chat_guest2001: Edith Piaf songs
chat_guest2001: some Berthold Brecht songs
chat_guest2001: 2 songs from Evita
jackaltrades: (Oh... I was just going to ask that! Je ne regrette rien!)
chat_guest2001: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
chat_guest2001: a sort of country version of The Sound of Music
bummer2323: me too, but I 'm afraid i'll miss something.....sigh!
chat_guest2001: (a very different arrangement)
chat_guest2001: Cole Porter
jackaltrades: Do you sing "Je Ne Regrette Rien" on it?
bummer2323: cole porter?
chat_guest2001: Cabaret (I played Sally)
chat_guest2001: I do sing "Je Ne Regrette Rien!"
jackaltrades: (One of my faves by Piaf!)
indianajgirl44: i g2g, tell them have a merry christmas, and a happy new
year!! c-ya
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bummer2323: did we ever find out what time it is for them over there?
chat_guest2001: By the way, Cyrene died, but as Lucy said,
chat_guest2001: no one ever truly dies on the show
Mayfair51: I got to go, too. I have to write that proposal for Bruce at the
board. Wish me luck!
chat_guest2001: so maybe we can have a celestial appearance or something
bummer2323: I can't believe they've killed everyone!!
bummer2323: i don't watch it anymore, it's gotten too weird, even for me.....
chat_guest2001: Merry Xmas from me too
jackaltrades: So there's a chance we'll still see you some time later this
season?
chat_guest2001: I hope to see some people in May in Pasadena
bummer2323: killing joxer and cyrene was the last straw
Jordi32196: Bye Maribel...
chat_guest2001: anything is possible
chat_guest2001: but then I'm doing all these other things
Mayfair51: Merry Christmas! Thanks everybody!
bummer2323: bye mayfair, good talking to you again!
jackaltrades: (Bye + Merry Xmas)
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Mayfair51: You, too, bummer
chat_guest2001: maybe they'll do a big final epsiode
chat_guest2001: with everyone in it
bummer2323: that would be nice,...
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chat_guest2001: again, anything is possible!
jackaltrades: Blow out all the stops!
chat_guest2001: On Ted Raimi
chat_guest2001: he does make me giggle
chat_guest2001: he and Bruce together....
chat_guest2001: they were so funny
bummer2323: LOL
chat_guest2001: I giggled my way through it
jackaltrades: (A lethal combination for the funny bone!)
chat_guest2001: He's highly intelligent
chat_guest2001: we talked lots about acting, and techniques
chatguest2001: and workshops in America
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