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On 17/3/2003, David Maddern posted:

We have looked at the toxicity of broccoli, potatoes, etc but here is a doosy.

I don't know how widely this is known, but it has been known for a while that Grapefruit juice can interfere with many drug's actions.

Particularly worrying, given the low dose nature of the modern contraceptive pill, and the grapefruit juice bottle is silent.

I wonder how many 'accidental' pregnancies there have been due to this.
Or for that matter 'unexplained miscarriage' via a drug's activity being modified.

looking around the site below there is at least one poor child ended up in Intensive Care

http://www.powernetdesign.com/grapefruit/


Worth taking on board some of the stuff there.

So should it have a mandatory health warning?
Could a supermarket be sued?


Margaret Ruwoldt replied:
>I don't know how widely this is known, but it has been known for a
>while that Grapefruit juice can interfere with many drug's actions.
My father's heart medication is clearly labelled with warnings about not eating grapefruit or drinking grapefruit juice, and his doctors remind him regularly about such contra-indications.

I expect there would be similar warnings on other drugs that react adversely with particular food or other substances (where those adverse reactions are known and proven).

If there were no warnings of known risks, then the pharmaceutical companies would be exposed to expensive damages claims. Look at cigarettes in the US, for example.

I'm not sure what labelling grapefruit would achieve that the current labelling system does not (or cannot).

Ray added:

There is a name for this kind of phamaceutical reaction between different substances, whereby one or other substance is totally harmless on its own but together they're deadly.

I forget this title.  Chris? Ian?  Anyone?

One of the lesser known of such things is a mushroom called Coprinus astramentarius, a fairly common 'sroom of Australia's SE.  No problem as a sauce for your steak, as long as no alcohol is consumed for at least 12 hours with and after ingestion.  Add alcohol, and they could be the last meal you eat.

As everyone ought to know, mushrooms are not to be eaten without good ID and wisdom.   Mushie season begins around Mothers Day.   Fair warning methinks.


Chris Lawson supplied:

Interaction is probably the word you're after -- but it applies to all sorts of reactions, not just deadly ones.
Ray responded:

The word I was looking for isn't interaction Chris, although that would probably do.   The term is phamaceutical. I vaguely recall there are a number of terms for basic varieties of phamaceutical interactions in terms of affect and toxicity.

There are those with a direct influence on their own, those which react with integral body chemistry, and those which react in the presence of other external chemicals.

I read it somewhere, sometime.....

Peter Macinnis replied:

> > > There is a name for this kind of phamaceutical reaction between
> > > different substances, whereby one or other substance is totally
> > >
harmless on its own but together they're deadly.
> > Interaction is probably the word you're after -- but it applies to all
> > sorts of reactions, not just deadly ones.
> I think there is a technical toxocological, not medical, term for two-part
> poisons, but I have forgotten what it is.  Macinnis may know...


I have not, in my recent extensive burrowings in matters toxicological, seen any precise term, which may mean More Research
Required, rather than the lack of such a term.

But Chris, what is wrong with "synergy" or "synergism" here?  Mind you, people are of two minds about the additive nature of poisons. The emperor Claudius had an edict published, declaring that yew juice is a sovereign remedy against snake-bite, and in these uncertain times, it may be worth noting that a cloth soaked in urine is good to breathe through in the event of a gas attack. Here are a couple of quotes from the database. The Pliny is in Philemon Holland's translation, and almost needs a translator, but I think it more fun than post-Shakespearean versions.

PLINY:  "Howbeit, as deadly a bane as it is, our forefathers have devised means to use it for good, and even to save the life of man: found they have by experience, that being given in hot wine, it is a counterpoison against a sting of scorpions: for of this nature it is, that if it meet not with some poison or other in men's bodies for to kill, it presently setteth upon them and soon brings them to their end: But if it encounter any such, it wrestleth with it alone, as having found within, a fit match to deal with: neither entereth it into this fight, unless it find this enemy possessed already of some noble and principal part of the body; and then it beginneth the combat: a wonderful thing to observe, that two poisons, both of them deadly of themselves and their own nature, should die one upon another within the body; and the man by that means only escape with life."

Modern medical opinion is different:

ANONYMOUS:  "Modern therapy, particularly of malignancy, makes good use of the Borgia effect -- two poisons are more efficacious than one." (Collins' "Medical Quotations" 60.)
Zero Sum wrote:

If my memory has worked sucessfuly over night, the word I was looking for may have been "syncretic" poisons.

Jim  Edwards added:

>From a longstanding grapefruit juice addict . . .

Is the word you are looking for "contraindication"?
Ian Musgrave replied:

At 09:03  19/03/03 +1100, Ray wrote:
>It seems that the photocopies required are missing.
>The book however is "Pharmacology" by H.P.Rang & M.M.Dale, published 1987
>Churchill Livingstone
>ISBN: 0-443-03407-9.

Rang and Dale 4th edition is very good, and is the required text in the course that I help teach.

>The chapters I'd need to find (probably in another A4 box) are Chap23 p524
>Interactions with drugs and foods, and all of Chapter 36 (pp
>692-702) Harmful effects of drugs.

Now Chapter 48 Individual Variation and Drug interaction and Chapter 49
Harmful Effects of Drugs.

They are just called drug interactions. There are two basic kinds of drug interaction;  pharmodynamic  interactions, where the drugs (or drugs and foods) interact via the mechanisms of action and  pharmacokinetic where one drug or food alters the concentration of another.

An example of  pharmacodynamic interaction is that of the anticoagulant warfarin and vitamin K. Warfarin competes with vitamin K for the binding site on the enzymes that synthesize blood clotting enzymes such as prothrombin, so that the coagulant enzymes cannot be synthezied.

An example of  pharmacokinetic  interaction is that of grapefruit juice and drugs. Grapefruit juice contains psoralens that inhibit an enzyme responsible for breaking drugs down (cytochrome P450 variant 3A). This means that drugs are broken down more slowly and their plasma levels (and hence effects and side effects) are increases. The exception to this are drugs which  need  to be partly broken down to work. Terfanidine is a drug for treating high blood pressure that need to be converted to carboxyterfanidine by cytochrome P450 to work. Grape juice prevents the production of the active drug by inhibiting cytochrome P450, and causes further harm because high levels of terfanidine can stop the heart beating.

In terms of health warnings. All drugs that are affected by grapefruit juice (and not all drugs are broken down by the cytochrome P450 variant 3A pathway) have very prominent warnings on them to this effect.

and further, in response to posts by Ray and Peter Macinnis:

> > Thanks Ian.
> > "pharmacokinetic" it is.
>So what was wrong with synergy or synergism, then?  Would they not be
>acceptable, if slightly less precise, synonyms?

In pharmacology, a synergistic effect of drugs mean that the combined effect is more than the effect of two drugs separately. An example is the interaction between the hormones noradrenaline and angiotensin II on blood vessel contraction. The ability of angiotensin II to contract blood vessels in the presence of a threshold concentration of noradrenaline (that doesn't by itself contract the blood vessel) is many times the effect of angiotensin II itself.

Many cases of pharmacodynamic and pharmacokinetic interactions are not synergistic, in the pharmacological sense. In the case of Terfanadil and grapefruit juice, the effect of Terfanadil is exactly that due to it's plasma concentration, there is no synergism between the grapefruit juice and the Terfanadil.

Also, we pharmacologists like to have labels that tell us why an interaction is happening. Synergism doesn't help, whereas phramacodymaic and pharmacokinetic gives some idea of what is going on.

On 21/5/2003, Jim Edwards posted:

Results of my Google search.  I may print this off and show it to my doctor.

pravastatin (PravacholÒ)  -  Pravachol is the only one of my medicines which  showed up on the Grapefruit juice interaction site, and it seems to be an  exception among the statin type drugs.

Pravastatin, a HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor and cholesterol-lowering drug, was studied for a grapefruit juice interaction.   Eleven healthy volunteers  received either 200 mL water or DOUBLE-STRENGTH grapefruit juice three times  daily for two days before receiving a single 40mg dose of pravastatin with  either 200 mL water or grapefruit juice in a randomized crossover fashion.   GJ had no significant effects on the pharmacokinetics of pravastatin, other  than the Tmax of active HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors was significantly  prolonged from 1 hour to 2 hours. 52 Pravastatin is a hydrophilic HMG-CoA  reductase inhibitor with an oral bioavailability of approximately 20%, and  is excreted to a significant extent unchanged in the urine.  CYP3A4 plays  only a minor role in the metabolism of pravastatin, which explains why  pravastatin is not susceptible to interaction with GJ and other CYP3A4  inhibitors.

Cashew Nuts
Diet Nutrition & Cashew Nuts:
Cashew nuts, like all nuts, are an excellent source of protein and fiber.  They are rich in mono-unsaturated fat which may help protect the heart.   Cashew nuts are also a good source of potassium, B vitamins and folate. They  contain useful amounts of magnesium, phosphorous, selenium and copper.

Like peanuts, cashew nuts are often salted. This added sodium content may  contribute to increased blood pressure. So buy plain roasted cashew nuts  without added salt.

Calories in Cashew Nuts:
1 oz/25g = 160 calories

It seems that it is salted cashews that are the problem, relating to blood  pressure.  No mention of cholesterol.