Supply (400 tons of used clothes) & Demand (none
for us) …
as
God watches!
Note:
All the ‘red’ print is from me to you!
It was not part of the actual correspondence.
Forward
to me (Eddie)
We
received a huge amount of second-hand clothing. (400
tons.)
If there are ministries that are in need of clothing to distribute (for free),
we invite them to contact us. We have a truck and will deliver. Minimum order - one pallet.
Some of the clothing is from O. C. and will need to be sorted through, folded, etc. I
have seen it and it is good quality, yet a small amount will not be 100%
presentable and you can toss it. Some are Summer
and some are Winter-weight.
May the community be blessed, and all
Blessings, J.P.
Reply
Dear J.P.,
Heard that you have some used clothes! I
could use 4 pallets for starters. I am located in
In Yeshua's Name,
Edwin (Eddie) Beckford
Reply
Dear Edwin,
What organization are you with, and what is their ministry?
Thanks, J.P.
I sent
these two photos:
Photo #1 click here
Photo #2 click here
And
Lura wrote:
Hi J.P. It's been a long time! My husband Eddie wrote to you about
clothes. We have The King's Men Chess and Bible Shop Ministry here in
Lura (Maiman) Beckford
Reply
Hi
Lura,
It is great to hear from you!
Yes, we can bring you as much clothing as you need -- however, for more than
just a small amount, we are under stipulation by the Ministry of Welfare to
provide the
disposition information (see form attached). We have 28 Messianic-run
centers in the country, all using this form.
People can go and pick out, but they cannot leave your booth until you
sign them out.
Name, address, phone number, T. Zehut
and quantity in kg taken (estimation based on an average weight per piece).
Each pallet is approximately 272 kg. Some you will want to toss if they
have a spot -- but then record on a line how many kg you tossed.
All you need to do is fax me this form once monthly and we'll supply you with a
number of pallets each month, as long as you want them. However, the form
is required. As you know, we have a seemingly endless supply of clothing
just for your purpose.
I am required to fax this form to the Min. of Welfare Dept. of Public
Institutions (of which we are one). I am faxing voluminous amounts of
this form each month. Do you have an amuta
(legal non-profit org)? Even if you do not, it is OK.
Let me know.
Love,
Lura wrote:
Hi J.P. - We do not have an amuta
and we would have a problem getting anybody to sign their name, much less an
address. We put the clothes out on tables one day a week and
the Russians (mostly new immigrants) and the Bedouins descend upon
them. Both groups are very suspicious and act as quickly as possible
because the Haredim are screaming at us and them - so
that would be impossible. Even at the bank, the Bedouins give their thumb
print as ID and they don't have addresses. The tribe leader has a box in
the desert and he gets everyone's mail.
We run into bureaucracy with all these "ministries". Why
does the government need to know anything about people taking used
clothes? We are a private charity work that does not deal with money at all, therefore we do not have to file any papers. We
like it like that, so guess we will have to forego the clothes - It was a nice
idea, but the Lord can bring them from other sources; He has provided clothes
every week so far. Thanks anyway, Lura
Reply
Hi
Lura,
The Dept of Public Institutions (Ministry of Welfare) controls the import of used
textiles. So they are making their requirements when they give the
approval. Black market is the big issue (and tax evasion). Their
question: Are we (Christians) selling (used clothes). This is the problem. We must prove that we
gave them.
Blessings,
Lura wrote:
Hi J.P. -- Here's the situation -- Anyone with an Amuta has given the government the right to come in and
take all the information about the believers - mailing lists, names, etc.
The Haredim here in Arad have actually visited people
(non-believers) who have received help from the believers and threatened
them - no burial in a Jewish cemetery - no brit milahs for their children, no kashrut
certificates for their restaurants, etc. You see what we are dealing
with.
I understand your
position with the textile industry, but the more we tailor our charities to
government rules, the worse we will be. Perhaps the J.P. should tell people not to send their used clothes
here - too many rules, plus the cost of sending it...(port
fees do not help
Reply
Hi
Lura,
About the lists of names -- these are lists of poor people who receive used
clothing, not
lists of names of believers. (Hmmm…there are poor people
believers needing use clothes too.) Poor people do not care what they
have to do to get stuff, so
they don't mind giving their details (and of course, we have no knowledge
whether they put down the correct information or not). (I interact with poor everyday and they ‘do care’ what they
have to do to get stuff. And for those
who don’t, it’s a tell tale sign that they have lost their dignity,
self-respect, and self-worth somewhere along the way and need restoration not
exploitation. It’s bad enough that we
have to distribute our clothes right in an open air market. It’s bad enough that the Datim take their
pictures. But the market place is where
the poor do their shopping! And, how we
treat them makes all the difference in the world. We threat each person with the utmost of
respect. We wait on them hand &
foot…not only in the name of Jesus, but in His love. The Love of Jesus has wondrous working
power. I’m finding out that applying the Love of
Jesus is a cure all, works every time, all purpose remedy. Hmmm…could applying the Love of Jesus be the
same as applying the Blood?)
Yes, I have a plan to change the way I import clothing, and I am going to start
using it
next year probably. Everyone is getting tired of dealing with these
authorities about it. I don't recommend buying clothing here -- too
expensive.
Love, J.P.
Bottom
line, a Christian organization is sitting on tons of used clothes, taking up
expensive storage space, etc. We could
really use some. But we will not turn
the names and addresses of reciprocates over to the government. I don’t believe that the government really suspects
Christians of selling used clothes. The
whole world knows that we are on the giving end when it comes to
I do
believe that this is another means of getting names and addresses of so called Christian/Messianic
sympathizers. Why would a government
want such a list? Are we really
approaching the end times? Could such a
list be useful during the tribulation?
Hmmm,
how much can I sell a used shirt for?
