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L&L Rape Discussions (Part Four)


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Luke overhears Laura say he is one of her closest friends
Luke tells Laura "Our lives will move in a different direction"... Laura says "You mean after I quit my job
.......tonight? [Luke nods] Not entirely, Luke, we're still gonna see each other"... Lk - "I'm gonna stay out of
.......your life"... Lra - "I know. But we're bound to be running into each other"... Lk - "Well, I'm gonna try.
.......Laura, you might be able to make it easier for me"... Lra - "How?"... Lk - "It's like this. I know what I
.......did to you that night. I know that it was rape. Brutal rape. I don't know how I could have done it to
.......you, I swear to you I don't! But if you could forgive me, it might make it easier for me to stay away"...
.......Lra - "Luke, I don't want you on this guilt trip any longer. I mean that! You have to remember that you
.......thought, that night, that you were gonna be dead within a month. I mean, people do all kinds of crazy
.......things when they think that their lives are over! Yes! The answers yes! I have forgiven you"... [Luke
.......looks relieved & happy] Lk - "Laura"... Lra - "What you heard me say to Joanne, that you're my good
.......friend. Well, that's true, for some strange reason, I don't really understand it, but there is some kind
.......of a bond between us, isn't there? [Luke nods] And I know you'll always be there for me if I'm in any
.......trouble & I'll do the same for you"... Lk - "Like the night on Look Out Point when you threw my keys over
.......the cliff. You did that because you thought you were keeping me from being killed & you were probably
.......right! So Laura, where do we go from here?"... Lra - "Well, Luke, you're getting involved with Jennifer
.......Smith & I think that's wonderful. I mean, we all need somebody & she's very interested in you, I can
.......tell, so I think you're off to a terrific start!"... Lk - "Sure. Sure. The problem is, it'll always be you for
.......me, you know that, don't you?" [Laura nods]
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Laura's last night working at the Disco
Laura arrives at the Disco to get ready
Laura tells Luke "I want you to know that I wish you all the best".. Lk - "Thank you. I'm gonna miss you
.......around here. You really light this place up"... [Laura smiles big time] Lra - "Thanks! But you'll get over
.......that"... Lk - "No I won't. I won't tell you how much I'm gonna miss you because that really wouldn't be
.......fair. You wouldn't believe me anyway. But there's another part of me, a part that wants you to be
.......happy & that parts knows that you should not be here. You should be away from here, at home, with
.......another man"... Lra - "Thank you"
Joanne comes to train with Laura
Scotty & the gang party at the Disco for Laura's last night
Mr. Smith arrives at the Disco
Laura seems disturbed by Luke dancing with Jennifer & she runs to Luke's office & starts crying
Luke comes in the office &...
Luke says "What's wrong?"... Lra - "I don't know! Luke, everything started closing in on me all at once &
.......I don't know"... [The are standing kind of close here] Lk - "I understand"... Lra - "What do you mean?"...
.......Lk - "There is so much unfinished business between us Laura, [Luke moves closer to her & puts his
.......hand on her face] still"... Then...
LUKE AND LAURA KISS!!!
Laura slaps him & says "No! No, don't do that! I'm going home to my husband & I never wanna see you
.......again!" [Laura storms out] [Luke yells & knocks everything off of his desk]
Bobbie wants to kno what's going on... Luke tells her he kissed Laura
Bobbie is mad at Luke for kissing Laura... says "sounds like she was pretty angry"...
Luke says "I'd say that was putting it mildly"... B - "Strange don't you think? That she would get that
.......angry with someone that she doesn't care a bit about"... Lk - "What are you saying?"... B - "What I'm
.......saying, Brother dear, is when there's that much anger, there's gotta be another emotion too. And it
.......sure isn't fear. Is Laura falling in love with you?"... Lk - "Oh sure! Sure she is Bobbie! Doesn't a
.......woman fall in love with every man who rapes her, huh?"

Laura, going to hang up her uniform, gets locked in Luke's office closet
Laura is in the Office closet as...
Luke meets with Mr Smith (Talks about having Luke run a club in Vegas)
Watson tells Frank he thinks someone was in the closet
Laura calls Luke to let her out
Laura says "I tried to get out, Luke, I really did try. But then I heard voices"... Lk - "You heard? You heard
.......everything, didn't you?"... Lra - "Yes! What organization is Frank Smith talking about?"... Lk - "His
.......company"... Lra - "But he said something about having to look legitimate. What is that supposed to
.......mean?"... Lk - "Don't ask questions, Laura"... Lra - "Luke, I have to know!"... Lra - "Look, please, I'm
.......telling you don't ask questions!! Just get the hell out of here and don't look back!"... Lra - "You're in
.......trouble, aren't you Luke?"... Lk - "Laura, don't do this"... Lra - "Look at me Luke. Look at me!! I'm worried
.......about you. There's something very evil about those men"... Lk - "Oh no. No, Laura, don't look at me like
.......that!"... Lra - "Luke, I can't leave you like this"... Lk - "Laura don't do this. You didn't hear anything, you
.......DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING!! Don't worry about me, don't care about me, because if you do I'll... Laura, don't
.......care about me"
Luke says "Laura please go. Don't do this to me"... Lra - "Ok. Ok, I'll go, but there's something that I want
.......you to know first before I do go. I was furious with you earlier when you kissed me. I was angry, I
.......was bitter, & I was frightened. I was frightened because you made me realize something, something
.......that I haven't wanted to admit. There's a bond between us Luke. A bond that we can never break"...
.......Lk - "Laura"... Lra - "No, I don't mean because you raped me. Maybe it's because I saved your life when I
.......threw those car keys over the cliff. I mean, I heard once that when you save a person's life you interupt
.......their fate, their destiny, & then you're responsible for them. I don't know, maybe that's why we're tied
.......together forever"... Lk - "It's more than that"... Lra - "I love Scotty, Luke. I love my husband & I want to
.......be his wife, completely!"... Lk - "What are you trying to say to me?"... Lra - "What you tried to say to me
.......the night Roy was killed. I am trying to say goodbye, Luke"... Lk - "That's what you want?"... Lra - "Yes.
.......Yes & Please stay away from me. I will stay away from you. I don't wanna know what's happening in
.......your life. I don't wanna worry about you. I don't want to care"... Lk - "Good bye, Laura. I'll always love
.......you"... Lra - "Goodbye, Luke"... [Laura starts to leave, but then stops & gives Luke a kiss on the check &
.......then leaves]

Luke comes to see Laura at her apartment
Laura says "You tell me why Frank Smith called Lee & Scotty's office & offered him some legal business.
.......How DARE you involve my Father-in-law and my husband with someone like Smith?!"... Lk - "Now just a
.......minute, lady, let's get your facts straight, alright! That call was Mr Smith's idea, not mine!".. Lra - "I
.......don't believe you. And after what I overheard in your office, on my last night on the job, I don't know
.......what I can believe. I'm beginning to think that the only I have left to do now is to pick up that telephone
.......& call the FBI & tell them that I have some information for them"... Lk - "That's terrific, really terrific
.......girl. Do it"... Lra - "I think I will"... [Laura goes over to the phone] Lk - "Laura, that call will put your
.......life in jeopardy"... Lra - "I don't believe you"... Lk - "You make that call you put your life, mine, Bobbie's,
.......maybe even Aunt Ruby's on the line. That's the ultimate revenge, isn't it? What a fantastic way to pay
.......me back. Oh you can destroy us all with one phone call. But don't kid yourself. You're not doing it out
.......of noble motives. Well, what are you waiting for? Go ahead, call the operator, tell her it's an
.......emergency, I'm sure she'll connect you to the FBI right away! [Laura just stands there] Dammit Laura,
.......you want revenge, make that call. If you wanna live, you better listen to me"... [Laura picks up the phone]
.......Lra - "Yes, operator, this is an emergency. I wanna speak to... [Laura looks at Luke, then hangs up] Alright
.......Luke, but your story had better be good, because if any harm, even the slightest, comes to Scotty or my
.......Father-in-law or anybody in my family, I'm gonna hold you responsible!"
Luke says "I was ordered to get you back to work within two weeks or else. Now the organization doesn't
.......make idle threats. You ought to know that from what you overheard when you were trapped in my office
.......closet"... Lra - "I wont go back to work for you, Luke, EVER!"... Lk - "Laura, look, I got crazy & I kissed you
.......& you're angry about that, but don't let your anger blind you to what is going on! You're in big trouble!
.......Bill Watson saw your shadow under the closet door. When they left my office, they waited to see who
.......came out. They saw you"... Lra - "Oh no"... Lk - "They suspected some kind of set up. They thought maybe I
.......was selling them out"... Lra - "That's why they want me back?"... Lk - "That's right. They want you there
.......so they can watch you, so they can make sure you don't talk. Now look, I told you you were being watched.
.......If you don't believe me you go over to your kitchen window & do it carefully"... [Laura goes & looks out the
.......window] Lra - "There's a man in the alley. He's looking up here"... Lk - "I told you. A 24 hour tail is on
.......you. They're watching your every move. Now look, I went to Smith this morning. I tried to tell him that
.......because of your family's connections you were too important to push around, I got nowhere!"... Lra - "Luke,
.......you can tell Mr Smith that I'm not buying any of this & that he can't frighten or intimidate me into
.......coming back to work for you"... Lk - "Oh Laura, you don't know what you're doing!"... Lra - "Scotty was the
.......one who decided that I shouldn't work there anymore & I'm glad he did! Luke, I can't go back to work for
.......you, not even if I wanted to, Scotty would never let me!"... Lk - "If you're not gonna think about your life or
.......mine, will you give a thought to Bobbie, please! Do you hate her so much you wanna see her killed too?"
Luke says "You know that I love you. Oh sure, I've made a big effort to play this game & date Jennifer Smith.
.......Well, she doesn't mean anything to me, she couldn't. It'll always be you. And now, now I'm trying to get
.......you out of this mess. You won't listen to me. How can I convince you that your life is in danger!"... Lra - "I
.......don't know, Luke. But if it involves getting me to come back to work for you, I'd say you have a problem,
.......because I think this is all one big trick to get me back there!"... Lk - "Oh damn. Oh boy. Maybe the problem
.......is that you just don't realize what the Organization is capable of, Laura. Maybe you think that they're nice
.......respectable business men. Yes, they look respectable & yes they are in business. And alot of that
.......business has to do with death! Maybe what happened to Roy will open your eyes. Are you ready to hear the
.......truth about Election night? Are you finally ready for the truth?"... Lra - "I've always been ready to hear
.......the truth about that"... Lk - "No you haven't. No you haven't, but maybe you are now. But if you are or not,
.......it doesn't matter. The truth is that I was supposed to die that night, not Roy. Frank Smith ordered me to
.......kill Mitch Williams on Election Night"... [Laura looks stunned] Lra - "Why?"... Lk - "To prove my loyalty to
.......the Organization. I was supposed to make that hit on Williams, not Roy!"... Lra - "Could you have done
.......that?"... Lk - "I was sure gonna try. Cause I knew if I didn't, I'd be a dead man. You see, that's how the
.......Organization work, Laura. And now if you don't believe me, your life is in danger!"... Lra - "You mean if
.......Scotty hadn't asked you to drive me home that night & if I hadn't thrown the car keys down the cliff"...
.......Lk - "I would be dead"... Lra - "No!"... Lk - "Laura, that's the truth, the rest of it's all been lies. I've been
.......trying to protect you from my life. I didn't want you involved because I thought you would get hurt. Well
.......now you are involved & you're going to get hurt if you listen to me. I have been ordered to get you back to
.......work within two weeks. Laura if you don't come back to work, they're not going to believe that you haven't
.......opened your mouth about what you overheard!"... Lra - "You say you love me & then you're ready to lay this
.......whole guilt trip on me. Well, I can't handle that Luke & I wont even try! You backed me against a wall! No,
.......Luke! No, I hate you now and I hate Bobbie & Elm street & your Disco & I just want you to get out of here!"...
.......Lk - "Laura, I'm sorry, but it's too late for school girl hysterics! Somehow you're gonna convince Scotty
.......that you have to come back to work at the Disco, otherwise I will not be able to protect you from what's
.......gonna happen!"
Laura says "That man is still in the Alley"... Lk - "I told you a tail 24 hours a day"... Lra - "What if you keep
.......dating Jennifer Smith? Won't that give you protection?"... Lk - "There is no such thing as protection, Laura.
.......You & I are in the Organization. Once in, you never get out. The only thing to do is try to survive. Your way
.......to survive is to come back to work for me. My way to survive is to get you to come back to work for me. I
.......can't tell you anything, anymore, clearly"... Lra - "Luke, what are we gonna do?"... Lk - "I don't know. I gotta
.......think of something. Someway to convince Scotty that you have to come back to work at the Disco"...
.......Lra - "Just promise me that you'll stop Frank Smith from taking his legal business to Lee & Scotty. We can't
.......let that happen. I will come back to work for you, if I have to, but I don't want Scotty hurt. You see, Luke,
.......sometimes I think about you in a way that I don't wanna think about you. In a way that a woman shouldn't
.......think about any man, except for her own husband. So please, don't make it any more difficult for me, ok.
.......Because I'm trying to make it back with Scotty. I do love him & I do wanna be his wife again, the way I once
.......was"... Lk - "It kills me to hurt you. To go on hurting you. I'd rather die. I'll stay out of your life as much as
.......I can. Right now we have 2 weeks to get you back to work. Now how are we gonna convince Scotty that you
.......have to come back, without making him suspicious? Think about it Laura. How we gonna do that?"

Luke goes to see Laura
Luke plays the tape for Laura (That he stole from Frank Smith's office of her starting to call the FBI)
Luke tells Laura he'll do anything to protect her
Luke says "I know it's frightening, but you had to hear that tape. Laura, it's reality time"... Lra - "Yes"...
.......Lk - "There's one thing in our favor. Now it's not great, but it's something. You didn't complete the call.
.......It's very clear on that tape that you hung up when the other woman spoke. That means that you changed
.......your mind. That might give us a couple of points"... Lra - "You're just trying to keep me from getting too
.......scared, aren't you?"... Lk - "Ok, maybe I am"... Lra - "You told me before that if they tapped the phone call
.......that I made to the FBI that I was in trouble, big trouble"... Lk - "We'll just have to get through the next
.......few weeks, that's all. We have to prove to them your loyalty, prove to them that you'll keep your mouth
.......shut, then nothing will happen. I don't know, maybe they're giving us this time. If they were certain that
.......you would have talked, they would have made a move by now. We have to convince them that you won't"...
.......Lra - "I'm so scared for Scotty, Luke. He's really into this job for Frank Smith. He thinks it's just
.......terrific"... Lk - "I know, I know, I know. Laura, you're gonna have to play this my way. You have to know,
.......now, that this was not a trick to get you back to the Disco so I could be near you. Please trust me. I'm
.......asking you to trust me with your life. Laura? Laura?"... Lra - "I trust you. I have to"... Lk - "That's all I
.......can ask. Laura, I won't let Frank Smith or anyone harm you!"


MARCH - DECEMBER1980 ----->>>> Not available as of now


JANUARY 1981 --- >>>> The Floating Rib Rape Discussion

Here is the conversation that caused more controversy than the actual rape
Luke: So you don't mind the spotlight anymore
Laura: No I don't. In fact I think it's a very good idea that we're out in public. It gives me a chance to talk to you
..............without you yelling or screaming at me
Luke: Don't push your luck now. It's still time for me to call for separate checks
Laura: Luke I'm serious. I want to talk to you about something that's very, very important without either one of us
..............having the luxury of getting over emotional
Luke: Sounds like heavy subject material
Laura: Could be. Depending on your attitude
Luke: Well at the moment my attitude is flexible so what is so important
Laura: Us. You're stuck Luke. You got to listen to me. Ok here goes first of all I'm sure you're probably wondering
..............what's been happening in my life since I've been back
Luke: No actually I've been really busy with my own life
Laura: Yea I know that. Would you like to hear my story?
Luke: Tell it
Laura: First of all I haven't heard a word from Scotty. I get the feeling that he is intentionally trying to punish me
Luke: You mean by dropping out of site?
Laura: Yea. I don't blame him. He's had to face a lot of reality. SO have I.
Luke: So has everybody. Reality catches up with everybody
Laura: Yes I know. Look I know that I was the one who had to do the growing up. You're right. I was a child. I admit it.
..............I see it very clearly now and it really sank in the day at the police station when I turned my back at you
Luke: Laura please
Laura: Hear me out. I know how much I hurt you and I hate myself for it. I also know that I practically destroyed everything
..............that we had together and it's because of something you mentioned tonight…facing people
Luke: Reporters
Laura: No, no my parents, the Baldwins, Amy, Bobbie, everyone who was in that room
Luke: No Laura is you telling me that you couldn't face the fact that we had slept together?
Laura: That we made love. Just like we made love that night at the disco. (Luke looks at Laura completely shocked by her words)
..............I know I cried rape. I lied to everyone. I even lied to myself. That's what I couldn't face that day in the police station. I told
..............that lie to so many people and they knew, they knew when they saw us standing there together that it wasn't rape at all
Luke: You handled that the best way that you could
Laura: And I almost destroyed you in the process
Luke: You were taking care of yourself
Laura: Why do you suppose no one asked about the rape after that day? Because they know they knew that it was not rape at all

Luke and Laura get interrupted by Rick and Lesley

Luke and Laura continue their discussion at her door
Laura: Look, there's one more thing I want you to understand. The cigar band that you gave me. I know that I threw it away
..............but I never threw away what it meant
Luke: Well wedding vows and cigar bands go together like a big joke
Laura: No it wasn't a joke to me
Luke: Laura I'm not handling this very well because I just don't understand it. I mean you have been a private obsession of mine
..............for years. So now it feels like maybe I'm putting it down or something. I'm not putting it down I just don't know how to
..............handle all of this communication
Laura: Why do you say obsession? That makes it sound so far way. I'm not Luke. I'm right here
Luke: I know you are
Laura: You know I've done most of the talking tonight. You've hardly said anything. I want to know. I want to know how you feel
Luke: Ok. Just to clear the air. I have loved you. I have. Oh I have loved you and I didn't want to and I didn't plan to and I didn't
..............understand. I didn't know what it meant. I didn't know what was happening to me. I didn't understand the feeling. I didn't
..............even know it was possible for me to love anybody as much as I loved you. And Laura I loved you too much. I loved you so
..............much I couldn't think. I couldn't understand. (Laura starts to interrupt him) Don't stop me. If you want to hear it don't
..............stop me. I loved you so much there was nothing else in my life. Laura that's sick. I wasn't there anymore. I wasn't there
..............anymore. That kind of love Laura would destroy me. Destroy me. It would break me apart and I don't want to be broken apart
Laura: You mean you are just going to throw it away? Is that what you're saying?
Luke: No! I'm saying that I have to have more control than that and I'm saying that I don't want to throw it way and I am saying
..............that it's not right for us now. Now maybe it will. I hope maybe someday it will be right for us and when it is, you will be
..............the first one to know
Laura: And what if it's never right for us?
Luke: Then we will still have had the most beautiful summer that two people ever had



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