Can you give us an example of time travel using the subtle body?
‘My journey was one of the first ones. We wanted to see how many
events we could stimulate by doing an action that was not foreseen in
another time period. In this case it was to develop commerce between two
villages. So we stole a little boat and put it in another viIlage so the
boatbuilder would build another one as a result of the theft. So I found
myself on a riverbank in this area which, using the spheroselfs, we
calculated at 6,140 years ago. My objective was to ’provoke’ the loss of
this boat, which was the first boat to be made by that culture, using a new
technology, only known to that little village. I needed to push the boat
out into the river so it would reach another village where they would see
that this new boat existed, and copy it, while the guy in the first village
would build another one and maybe think that he could develop it and make
it better. And to make more than just one. An impossessor always has to
impossess a body of the opposite sex. If not, you risk identifying with the
person you are impossessing. You have to have someone who is different. So
I entered into the body of this primitive lady. As I did so, her head
became dizzy, and she fell down. She fainted for a while because she was so
overwhelmed. This made it easy for me to take control of the body, because
at the time she was not conscious. The sensation of ’putting on’ a body, as
you might put on a dress, was incredible - it felt like I was gaining her
feelings as I got into her arms and legs. The first problem when you do
this sort of thing is how to orientate yourself inside the body, to know
where to put your head and legs! When I opened my eyes I wasn’t surprised
at all and I felt very calm, so I understood how important all the
preparations had been: I found this quite normal. I was very lucid and I
knew what I was doing. I kept hearing Oberto’s voice giving me
instructions, so I knew that the channel was open.’
So Oberto was communicating from this time directly to you in that
time?’
‘ Yes.’
And seeing through your eyes?
'No. The senses did not arrive all at once. First I could see, then
touch, and taste, and then smell. Hearing was a mix between what was
happening where I was and Oberto’s voice here.
The woman I had impossessed was already on her way to the river to fetch
water. My problem was preventing others from seeing ’her’ push the boat
out, otherwise she would have had problems afterwards. I had to do this,
and then go to the place where the Time Door would re-open. The Time Door
had moved from where it was when I arrived because the events that I had
made happen had created a difference in that time, registered in what
subsequently happened. So the door moved. I had to look for it.’
You sensed it?
‘No. I saw it. Oberto told me at which moment the door would appear
and I had to look around and find it. It’s like a tear in reality, as
though you are watching a movie on a screen and there is a cut. Reality is>
torn. On this side, you can look through the door and see reality on the
other side. It is not really something that you can see with your human
eye. It is because you are linked to the whole that you see it. This
applies to subtle body travelling. With the other form of time travel, with
your body, the door is a black line that everybody can see, with a border
of light. Also the people on the other side can see it. On the other hand,
these primitive people are are not prepared for seeing such a thing, so
even if they see it, they will discard it because it is not an experience
they can contain.’
What about insects and animals accidentally going through the Time
Door?
‘With subtle body travelling, of course, there’s no problem. With
the physical body you have to be very careful. For instance, when you go
with your body you can’t go to the toilet, because you would risk leaving
behind foreign bacteria. Doing this would create an incredible imbalance.’
Have you learnt anything about life after death?
‘This is a very wide subject. Yes, we are analysing what we call
the ’border plans’ of our universe. At this moment we have just a
theoretical knowledge. We are not able as yet to go into the realm of death
and come back to tell the tale. It is one of our ohjectives, but we haven’t
yet achieved it, even though Oberto has given us the instruments to do this
also.
One of the most important experiences in this field was the programmed
reincarnation of a lady who died in the community and reincarnated as a
little girl, who is now six. As a little girl she has her own personality,
but little by little she is recovering the memories of what she was in her
past life. So, it is the same technology as that of the Tibetan Lamas, but
more sophisticated, because when Tibetan Lamas reincarnate, the surviving
Lamas have to go and look for them. In this case we were able to direct
where the soul was going to go.’
So no one has gone into the future yet. Is that because it is
theoretically impossible?
It is not impossible to go into the future as such. It is
impossible to go to places where the complexity is higher. Where evolution
is higher. Could you go within the same package? Could you go forward a
week for example?
‘This is a problem of energy. We would need too much energy. It
is much easier to go to very distant times rather than very close ones, for
two reasons. Firstly because the times closest to ours are still assessing
their events. Events are still moving, having consequences. And also
because we would not be able to exploit the curve of the universe. You
would have to go through the curve. And that would need an incredible
amount of energy. Also there is very little distance between the events I
can saturate [bring to completion] now and the events I can saturate in a
week. There is not much distance but still there is a distance. I cannot
saturate the events of my ’now’ within one week. I can’t enter those
events, and therefore I can’t use my free wiIl It is difficult to explain
to you because you don’t have the theoretical background.’
Is there anything I can read in English about this?
‘No. There is nothing on this subject. Until now we have never
spoken of this.’
So the knowledge you have been using over the past ten years comes from
Oberto.
‘Oberto is normally the initiator, but the knowledge comes both
from him and from research teams like the one I’m in. Oberto is the only
one who had this kind of knowledge to start with. For us it is important
for it to be understood that this is happening within a serious context.
That it is part of a study that we have been carrying out for the past ten
years. Also, this is not something we have simply been told, period. We are
constantly experimenting. We had to understand all of this for ourselves.
Also, the use of certain words like Time Package - this was something that
we studied for months before we could see what it meant.
Over the last few months the cabin has been used mainly for
healing, so time travel has been put aside for a while.’
Tales of the Unexpected
From a short list of 30 Damanhurian volunteers, thirteen of the fittest
and most mentally agile were especially chosen for the physics research
team’s experiments. Tbese have all successfully made journeys in time. The
experiments fulfilled all the hopes of tbose who had worked for years to
apply theory to practice. Wbat follows are transcripts of reports made by
one of the thirteen time travellers, Gorilla Eeculypto, on his return from
travels in both time and space.
19th Jan 1994 - 2727 B.C. Plant-matter sample brought back by
Gorilla
’I turned to look around and saw broad meadows with yellow
flowers and very green grass; I took a couple of steps to the right and
left. Then the sky grew dark and I heard the first shot-like roaring
sounds: the signal to return (to the time portal). I crouched into position
- the return time seemed less than on the first trip. It was only when I
found myself back in the cabin that I noticed I was clutching something in
my hands - it was a big tuft of grass. For a while I continued to hold it
tightly in my hands until I relaxed.’ This unusual transfer will obviously
be the subject of an analysis. ’He must have dilated his aura a great
deal,’ Oberto stated, ’to have brought back this grass.’ The grass quickly
dried out and went yellow.
24th Jan 1994 - 4719 B.C Close Encounters
’I arrived between two very large trees, and quickly regained
control over my body. The sun was shining high up to the left between the
foliage of the trees. There were very strong scents.
I heard in the distance (about 200-300m away) the sound of logs
being moved. I marked the arrival spot and cautiously headed off in the
direction of these sounds. I came across a bush of blueberries; I
approached it, pulled one off and sniffed it - it had no smell; I bit it, a
pleasant, though rather sour, taste. I followed the path, approaching the
noises and came upon a man who was stacking wood. He had long hair and was
dressed in smooth-haired skins. Resting close by I saw stone wood-cutting
tools" very sharp and driven into sticks with very strong bindings. Further
off, a very dark tool-I don’t know if it was made of black stone or metaL I
heard the roars, turned around and began to run towards the marked point.
The guy saw me running, and ran after me; I heard the third roar and was
still a long way off, I ran like mad to the point with the guy always about
100 metres behind me; I reached the arrival point and off I went. I arrived
in the cabin, very weary, my stomach doubled by strong cramps, a diffuse
trembling, a feeling of being drained.’
18th Aug 1994 - 59,006 B.C.
This was the first time-interplanetary journey. It involved a journey
of 61,000 years, lasted about an hour and a half and corresponded, as a
time span in another point in space, to a period of about three days.
’I apologise if I don’t express my ideas very clearly this
evening, but the experience I have just had has left me speechless and
stupefied.’
‘I would mention right at the start that it involves travel
through both space and time. The arrival spot was not, therefore - as on
other journeys - the Earth, but it was a journey that was at one and the
same time both spatial and temporal. The arrival point must, in my opinion,
have been one of the outermost planets in this galaxy, part-natural and
part - constructed, slightly smaller in size than the Earth.’
‘I took a ’self-crystal’ with me, which enabled me to memorise
more deeply the experiences of that three-day trip. What’s more, when I was
missing data, I could call it up directly from the self- crystal as if it
were an on-board computer or co-pilot.’
’It was a journey in time and space through a series of stops.
The leaps in time were variable, some completed only lasting a few seconds.
These initial jumps represented periods of 2,000 - 5,000 years. As a result
of contact with the Selfic creature I had a conscious sense of the point
towards which I was heading, how much time was passing and where I was.’
‘It was as if I were in a shuttle piloted by a set of very
complex instruments - in this case, the instruments were of a mental kind.’
‘During this journey, the first jumps in time were short and
took me to clearly recognisable physical locations: a wood, a desert, a
mountain, whilst those that followed were ever longer.’
‘I perceived the first three leaps as a journey backwards in> time, but in the same spatial dimension, whilst the others I perceived as
both a temporal jump and, in parallel, a spatial one.’
‘The successive stop-offs were all decidedly fascinating. I
experienced at least three or four different types of cabins, similar to
ours with a platform and side bars which were, in some cases, replaced by
overlapping spheres; in other cases the bars were replaced by pyramids, one
on top of the other, with the apexes directed towards the centre, towards
the point where I was.’
‘During the various leaps in time, I passed by Atlantis; I
didn’t stop over in the cabin where I had arrived on a previous trip there,
but in a similar cabin below sea-level. I found myself in a glass bubble
through whichI observed the seascape with people wearing clothes I was
already familiar with. I drank a very pleasant drink which gave me a very
strong energy charge. I had the distinct impression that Atlantis was an
important stop-of at which to land to take on energy and then depart again
for a longer time leap.’
‘In one of the last transitions (there were fourteen in
all),I arrived ia a cabin that consisted of a ray of light emitted from a
projector in space. I fell within that beam and remained in that rather
unusual reality. There was no kind of physical referance, but I was
immersed in this light ray that was moving quite fast and I, through it,
was going in all directions. Then, at a certain moment, the beam began to
rise vertically until it brought me to a platform suspended in the air
where I saw very strange creatures, about 4or 5 metres tall with a body in
the shape of an egg with a very long bead at the back and a mouth, or
rather beak, on the front.’
‘In another transition, I arrived in a transfer cabin that
was a cylindrical glass structure, comparable to a well dug out and
suspended in the air. I materialised in that spot, from which an incredible
view opened out; it was as if I were in a shuttle that was travelling in
space close to a sun that was emitting a very strong light. On the opposite
side, you could see a whole series of planets which went on until they were> lost from sight. Then I entered a ‘time castle’ where I had the distinct
impression that time stood still, almost as if I were pervaded by a
condition of stasis or of absolute calm.’
‘At the final destination, I put on clothes in the form of a
cloak which immediately enveloped me like a kind of shrink-wrap material.
The beings I met there did not have a form; they were like an elongated
ball with devices all over their bodies. When these beings approached, they
emanated a very strong energy.’
‘Each place was differentiated by specific smells. I recall
that at some points, for example, I noticed very intense, very acrid
smells, similar to ammonia, smells that hurt a bit in the nostrils. In
other places, smells that varied fcom sweetish to bitter. Similarly, I
heard several varied sounds.’
‘I then came to a very advanced Selfic structure made of
metal, pyramids, spheres and with wires wound around it. The floor of this
structure was also made of some metal. I realised from the surroundings
that I had arrived at a teaching centre, a training school. I looked around
and was a bit dismayed because there was incredible confusion all around,
with all kinds of people and all kinds of species.’
‘There was so much movement that I definitely passed
unnoticed. I stayed there a few minutes with my Selfic travelling companion
and, after a few minutes, a character appeared with features very like
human ones.
‘This person came up to me and had me get off the metal footboard I was on,
and I set off towards a room at the back.
’The problem of communication was resolved thanks to a collar which he put
around my neck. It was more spacious and comfortable than the one I had
worn at an earlier transition stop and it quietly translated the sounds
produced by my voice and also enabled me to understand his ’speech’. I
’heard’ him not through my ears, but directly, as if from the source of his
thoughts.’
‘My guide accompanied me in visiting the entire structure
that was made up of a series of rooms where people ate, slept, went to
school, trained, and so on. In the courses, they talked about cabins and
positions inside the cabins which were best for confronting the time leap.
Specific time drills were also taught. For two days, I learned all the
techniques relating to the transfer cabins.’
‘I ate food which tasted sweet, bitter, cold, hot, etc. The
first day, I ate a very cold cream similar to our ice-cream. During the
course, they supplied drinks with different densities which, apart from
their nutritional value, provided a considerable energy charge. ’As far as
the transmission of knowledge is concerned, I was directly assisted by an
instructor. The course consisted of successive stages which required the
use of special armchairs and helmets. Sometimes images were projected via
which data automatically entered the mind.’
‘From a technical and practical point of view, I think that
it will take time to encode everything, because a considerable amount of
data was transmitted.’
‘We slept in specially arranged places in which there were
sarcophagi with a hard base. A transparent dome was lowered from above,
hermetically seaIing in the person who was resting, and sleep came in a few
moments. In this state of slumber sometimes very deep, at others
extremely light - in this sort of half-sleep, I had the very clear
sensation that I was processing all the course data.’
‘In the morning, the sarcophagus was reopened and at that
moment, it was as though the plugs of my conscious mind were reconnected.’
‘I noted that my breathing and heartbeat were normal. I
often spoke of Damanhur and our project. The people listening were amazed,
and had respect for what we are doing. Indeed, they were very aware of our
reality and where we are going. ’I know that I kept my normal human
appearance because I could see my reflection on the shining walls.’
‘The cabins in which we trained were similar to ours, the
ones with bars. The use of the cabins varied according to the type of
direction, type of journey, the distance and the mass that was to be
transferred. The cabins with the bars were mainly used for time-travel.
Those with the sphere structure or pyramids were more advanced and used for
space-travel.’
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destroyed. Later, it was decided to acquire the Temple and the surround-
ing land to use as a tourist attraction. Damanhur is a spiritual movement
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ideas, rituals and creative works. We urgently ask our readers on their
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Gorilla meets some local people and, eats some blueberries.
Gorilla travels beyond Atlantis and goes tbrough a training
programme on how to use the cabins.
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