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#Sounds of the Asylum#

"Though Honestly there wasn't a last time. But IF there was, it wasn't anywhere as INTENSE as this contest can possibly be because THIS TIME: Its Personal®. Drink Sprite®.” -The Zero Man®

“No, I'm fine... I'm practicing my rapping so me and John Murphy can cut an album yo... fo' real on that shniznaw.” - Trever Leiss

“Integrity and morals...you score less than a kid with dyslexia in a spelling bee.” -“The Scarlet Angel” Jimi Sinister“

“I have a life to live, and the goals preceeding that life don't revolve around trying to excel my "Superstardom" inside the RAWF” -David Wilson

“Jamie the only thing I worry about is keeping my beer cold.” -“Screwball” Ramon Lopez

“But while you gothic, mythic, brutal, disgruntled types all seem to know everything... and have such poetic ways and views on life... I learned that the zombies are there only to be fucked with and frankly I'm not even close to being done fucking with you people” -The Zero man®

/The Words fade out as “Luck be a Lady” by Frank Sinatra, James sorts out some papers as various scenes from event in the ICE and RAWF of the past week../

JAMES POTTERFIELD: Hello Efedder welcome to the asylum, still going strong. I’m you host James Potterfield. And I think we have a decent show for you here. RAWF Present Chaos will be joining us later. As will current RAWF and former NEW rper David Wilson.

I apologize for the obscene lateness of this issue but hey shit happens. And I don’t have a deadline, hehe.

Ok This is geared more at the RAWF because they post on a *gasp* rp board. And it involves pictures. Yes pictures. I have nothing against pictures in rps frankly I think sometimes they add to them. And I enjoy them in general, I enjoy banners I like the nifty pictures, but really only one or two at a time. Some people need to calm down with the pictures. If you like putting more than two in there like in the middle I mean seriously chill. You need to just describe the scene better, use your words as I used to say to my 3 year old sister. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not anti picture if you wan the pictures go for it, more power to you. But pictures don’t make your rp better say for in really special circumstances. When I see more than one picture in the middle and its not clever, funny, or poignant, my mind just kind numbs.

Which begs the question... Why am I seeing 34 pictures of the Undertaker in an rp? IS the undertaker looking menacingly really adding that much? Sure that 34th picture of the undertaker walking down the hallway really makes the rp stand out in my mind.
No wait.

It just makes me remember the rp had 39 pictures of the undertaker walking. Wait to be honest sometime he’s standing or even talking on a micro phone. Or talking to announcer A sometimes announcer B. I know WWE or whatever archives the pictures but do we really need to see them? Why not just post the link to that site and save me the load up time.

I mean its not as if pictures always make Rps mindblowing. They don’t. Sometimes they do add to the rp. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying they shouldn’t be used. But at that the 4th picture doesn’t. And if you gonna post 37 pictures at least get some chicks in there.. come on. The Best part is thinking of the weird situation just to fit the picture.

Anyway that’s just minor pet peeve.... compared to this other issue with the pictures.

/James shakes his head./

Nothing Says quality rp like a MASSIVE Picture of RAVEN. Seriously. There is not a rp that goes by that I don’t think “man this rp is pretty good but if it just had a massive picture of Raven right here it would be soooo much better...”

I don’t mean to razz you but dude find some smaller pictures.

But I again ripping Bone Crusher is redundant, and why would anyone want to anyway? Dude is my Hero. I can definitely see why he is a former 3 time champion....

Can I just ask what rock Chaos has turned over? Because old RAWFs from like 1999 and earlier 200 are just coming out of the wood work. Bone Crusher, Trever Leiss, Crippler, Untouchable, Y2K Kris Jaric.

OK I see that’s an obvious Jericho rip off.. In name at least. Its obvious. But no ill will. The rps seem ok why not just change you name dude?.

Why do people join efed and never rp? Seriously this comes up more than you would think. Its not that hard. Why join if you not going to rp? Seriously. Why take the time join and do the ap and then not rp. I realize in RAWF its confusing because they expect you to be able to rp with out a card but still you have to do that I’m just joined the fed rp where you make a jackass of yourself.

You know what annoying when new wrestler B comes to a fed and immediately challenges the champion. That has to be the most annoying Efed thing ever. This is a topic I want to know more about what stuff annoys you efedders out there... send me your takes.

Has anyone been to SMASH wrestling lately?

/He shifts his papers./

In ICE the Fire Brand of the roster split has a new owner/running guy. Ian Brennan or Dan Rose or whatever. Who you may vaguely recall ran RAW a year or so ago, also helped run NEW in the odd event it was running. And while I’m generally skeptical of the roster split, I assume this is a good idea. He can’t be worse than Josh. And Simon needs all the help he can get. So this should help. I hope. Honestly court is out on this one. Lets hope he can last longer than 3 weeks.

/Unneeded shot at Josh./

Is it me or does the lack of Steve Montreal really slow down ICE?

Memo to Jon Wayne I‘m glad your doing well in ICE. I hope your successful. But honestly if your gonna drop out of RAWF with your Captain Crush character don’t just fade out. At least give us a reason and give the staff and rps a straight I’m leaving. It would just be better.Oh wait are you not leaving? Well that cool too but give notice or something more often.

Rping seems to be ungodly slow in both RAWF and ICE the last few weeks, hopefully its just minor trend.

Why is everyone being so damn sneaky?

/Cue sly grin./

One that note please welcome to the show The President owner of the RAWF Chaos...

James Potterfield says: Welcome to the Asylum
Chaos says:
Thanks for having me...
James Potterfield says:
You are the main man behind the RAWF correct?
Chaos says:
That I am, for the past four years anyway.
James Potterfield says:
How long have you been in Efedding?
Chaos says:
About 5 years so far maybe 5 & 1/2
James Potterfield says:
Where did you rp in the past?
Chaos says:
IHWF was my start and then BACW I believe... Couple others but those were only very short runs... Guess the only place I really RPed before RAWF was IHWF
James Potterfield says:
IS that the same BACW that Darksider and Tommy Payne Loathe?
Chaos says:
No, the one I was in closed rather quickly lasted maybe 2 months
James Potterfield says:
Ok... Who have you rped as?
Chaos says:
Victor Synn, Dray Dogg, AK, Max Force, Hoodlum.. When I broke into RPing I started a group I called the 1-8-7 and used them in multiple feds... tried to start an interfed stable quickly gathered people in IHWF but never really took anywhere else
James Potterfield says:
Why did you start RAWF?
Chaos says:
Cause I saw all these feds that were ran horribly and wished and looked for one that was run well.. I had so many ideas on how to do it better and so I started RAWF... Actually, the site was first designed by a couple of friend's of mine who do computer work for the Marines. They quickly passed it to me as I wrote the first card and have ran it ever since.
In fact, they controlled Jezz Haus and El Burrito Grande from the first card
James Potterfield says:
OK because everyone has some sort of weird link to this person how on earth did RAWF get involved in the Xtreme INC keith thomas thing?
Chaos says:
Keith has come and gone in RAWF a couple times... spent most of that time as a thorn in people's sides. I never really talked to him too much but he was always supposedly looking for ways to help RAWF since he thought it needed it..
James Potterfield says:
So what was the deal with that one federation that was supposed to be a conglomerate of RAWF and EFW?
Chaos says:
I think that was his plan...
James Potterfield says:
well he had many many many plans
Chaos says:
Yes, I remember the idea he had, but it never really even got off the ground as far as I saw. Lasted very short time and then flopped.
James Potterfield says:
Is there any truth to the you hacked or sabotaged the idea before he could do anything because you didn't want to join, understandably with such fine federation as EFW or whatever he was calling his federation at the time
Chaos says:
I didn't hack it or sabotage it or anything... I just dragged my feet a little because I wasn't sure I wanted to associate the RAWF with another fed... At he time I was still very bitter about feds closing and his idea didn't seem very stable and I didn't want to necessarily put the RAWF at risk to fail so to speak...
James Potterfield says:
You were probably wise did the RAWF get better or Bone crusher worse?
Chaos says:
BC gets a lot of flack but when he is really trying on all four cylinders he puts out some decent stuff... But as a whole, the talent in the RAWF has soared off the charts. I would say that some of the best RPs in efedding history have gone down in RAWF... I've been lucky enough to work with some of the best talent available. But then again, I've seen some really bad stuff as well
James Potterfield says:
Big Dawg? Doomsday?
Chaos says:
Two of my top RPers ever... I enjoyed their RPs immensely... Saved me time by not bothering to put more than 2 or 3 unintelligible sentences together
James Potterfield says:
Speaking of Big dawg... why was he killed on screen on a card?
Chaos says:
I knew that question was next
James Potterfield says:
hahaha
Chaos says:
Well, RAWF has always been a little more extreme than most feds....
In truth, he had been warned numerous times about using other people's characters and even went so far as to post as me.... Bad move.
James Potterfield says:
and you had him crushed to death on card?
Chaos says:
I was a bit vengeful... maybe a little too much, but those RPers around at the time were behind it... The only one who wasn't happy was the Big Dawg himself
James Potterfield says:
Yes and the guy who was vic venom who has stolen some else's identity or something...
Chaos says:
Yeah, the two of them were very similar.. Both have had their troubles in the RAWF...
James Potterfield says:
Ahhh off this topic... why the south park guys?
Chaos says:
I tried it on a card to be little different than what everyone else was doing and the RAWFers loved it so it kinda stuck
James Potterfield says:
Indeed it has, but were did the money system and stats points go to?
Chaos says:
They were phased out as unsucessful mostly... The money people won I had planned on them using for angles and extra stuff like attribute points and extra interviews on cards, etc... and nobody used them... The attribute points seem to hold new people back more than anything so I kinda let them drop out a little... Although once and a while I throw some bonus points in just to get people's attention
James Potterfield says:
I liked the points.. what do you wish the RAWF rpers would do more of or is anything bugging you about the RAWF right now?
Chaos says:
I'd like to see more interviews sent to me for on cards... I'd also like to see more people getting into angles... Got some good ones going but could use some more
James Potterfield says:
Everyone could use some more angles.. do you follow other efeds?
Chaos says:
No. I have at times but none currently although I'm thinking of checking out this ICE I've heard about on your show.
James Potterfield says:
in ICE say.... there more angles in and ownership booker guys seem to take more control over the where the rpers go and its seems its more the opposite in RAWF where you seem to let the rpers do whatever and its more dog eat dog why is that? I don't want to say there is no planning a head because there is but it seems to be more up to the rpers
Chaos says:
I've always tried to allow people to have some openness with where they take their characters but have tried to subtly point them in the right direction through the card writing... I've been possibly considering maybe taking a little more of an active role in directing people if necessary...
James Potterfield says:
in ICE there is basically a corps of jobbers, while at times it can be over kill, it seems to help the newer people adjust having a few victories under there belt in the beginning.. why does RAWF never say take the people who would get kicked off the roster and do that with them?
Chaos says:
To be honest, I've always felt that the job squad tends to not push people enough. Where as the fierce competition in RAWF has always pushed people to be their best and has produced some top notch wrestlers some of who may have left when they didn't find the challenge they were looking for...
James Potterfield says:
I understand your point but when the number of rpers around period is low like it has been for a few months wouldn't help if some of the newer people were given a bit build up some easy goals to get some conference before being tossed to the David Wilsons and Darksider’s?
Chaos says:
It might, but only if they really believed they were beating somebody. To me, if I were the wrestler and beat a jobber, it would mean nothing to me... It would be like my match was just fluff... Where as if I could get in there and fight the best, win or lose, I was in a match that was taken seriously.. I realize most people don't think like that, but that's what I've always tried to push in RAWF.. It's great to win and all, but it should be more about the enjoyment of the action and the writing than necessarily the win loss record which is why I went from records to the push page for a while
James Potterfield says:
I understand your point I know it works more for ICE because Simon monk actually rps as them all not very well with most.... but he keeps people honest...
Chaos says:
Back when I had time I was RPing with characters in RAWF to try and produce some competition...
James Potterfield says:
Name a few
Chaos says:
Well, Victor Synn, Dray Dogg, Max Force... AK for a couple weeks till I injured him and made him an announcer.... Hoodlum came in and lost a couple matches to help lift some people up..
James Potterfield says:
Did you ever give yourself the world title? and if so was it just to lose it?
or were you just out rping people?
Chaos says:
I won the world title... I didn't give it to myself though... I earned it... I'd out RP some people and then if Iost, people would be suspicious... At the time, nobody knew I was these wrestlers... I tried to keep myself out of the world title picture as much as possible...I got drug into it a few times because the champ wanted a piece of the wrestler I was handling
James Potterfield says:
was it a big deal when victor synn was "discovered"?
Chaos says:
Oh when I let the cat out of the bag on PPV it was huge Lot of people were mad
Lot of people were mad. Only because they found out two online friends were really just one. I had talked to most of these people as two different people But after the initial shock people weren't upset... mainly just surprised. This was all the same show that Victor Synn came out to be Chaos's son and then was retired and injured
Chaos says:
The nice thing was I asked most of them afterwards if they thought I had ever been unfair and mostly I was told that I held my characters back too much
James Potterfield says:
Alright...In the earlier days the RAWF world title and titles in general seemed to bounce around in the last few years say 2000-2002 not so much why?
Chaos says:
When the RAWF first started the talent kept coming and going... As the years progressed steady people with great skills came around and also I tried to make the title matches more rare and the champs just really busted their asses to retain.
James Potterfield says:
would you say the clamps have been put on when the title can change hands because Darksider won his first title second match.. that’s fairly strange...
Chaos says:
When it was booked, I didn't think he had any chance... He was meant to be food for Shaggy but he blew him out of the water... And I decided that Shaggy wouldn't hold the title just because DS was new... Shaggy had underestimated him and lost... I didn't think DS would hold it though... But he did for a couple weeks... then I used Dray Dogg to try and push Darksider up in everyone else's eyes But he didn't really need the help... mad talent got him where he is today
James Potterfield says:
that seems to be obvious...Now that were are sort of on this topic I want to fire a few world title and world title match related questions at you ok?
Chaos says:
shoot
James Potterfield says: I’ve heard a lot of bitching/complaining/ discussion from both parties on this
Chaos says:
got my curiosity raised
James Potterfield says:
Back in the day... Mr. Showtime had become world champion but lost it to Darksider on a ppv. Was Showtime screwed and were you favoring Darksider?
or what?
Chaos says:
Chaos Games 2000?
James Potterfield says:
Not sure it occurred before I came in but was still talked about by people like Showtime and Darksider and I believe maul...
Chaos says:
The RPs were extremely close. It could have gone either way.. Nobody had any idea who would win.. I reread them multiple times and made a decision. In fact, if you go check the card, you'll notice it used the scrolling card method in order to keep the suspense up until the end of the show
James Potterfield says:
that is the only RAWF show I've never read all the way through it takes ages for it to scroll.. brilliant...
more into the modern day.... sometime after the new year 2001 I think the bloody Wilson TRH fued was in full swing The Booking board system was in place so theoretically everyone can make their decisions right? on who wins and loses
Chaos says:
yes at that time that's how it was done.. I did keep track and tried to watch for abuses... NOw I tend to make the win / loss decision
James Potterfield says:
When TRH lost the title to Wilson and showtime wrote the match did he consult you first?
or did he go off on his own with that and I ask because of this he was quoted talking to some saying he never even read the rps for the match
Chaos says:
I think we talked about it, but I don't think we had collectively made the decision... He emailed me the match and I read it and approved it... I could have changed it but did not
I read them
James Potterfield says:
I figured you did Showtime told TRH a that there was some sort of angle what was it going to be?
Chaos says:
to be honest, I can't really remember what angle it was supposed to be..
James Potterfield says:
did it annoy you that Darksider hotshoted the belt back to TRH the next week
Chaos says:
It kinda stopped the feud for the angle that he had in mind I believe.. But once again, I could have edited the match and chose not to.. I think the title reign by Wilson did help the feud between wilson and trh first feud was supposed to be fuel
James Potterfield says:
do you try to ignore the OOC spats?
Chaos says:
The title change I think was mostly just intended to legitamize the chances of Wilson walking out of the feud with the belt... As far as the OOC... I tried to keep out of them and hoped that my bookers would elevate themselves above those as well...
James Potterfield says:
do you feel that sometimes the bookers don't do that?
Chaos says:
In the past, some of the bookers have possbily let OOC get in the way, but I would say most of the time, it didn't occur as much in RAWF as it has in other feds... I've tried to squash those as I see them.
James Potterfield says:
I'm gonna field an outside question a moment
Chaos says:
ok
James Potterfield says:
TRDrawf: Just curious why it was controversial when I won, but not so much when DS reversed the decision the following week having TRH win without doing a single promo, and to my knowledge, not really even focusing the fact that he had a match?
James Potterfield says:
and he wants to know specifically about the promos do wrestlers need to do promos to win or just do whatever they are doing well?
Chaos says:
Question is whether promos are necessary or whether off camera RPs can get the job done?
James Potterfield says:
both
Chaos says:
This is a two fold question... Wilson was a special case:
I don't think promos are necessary. Off camera RPs work for me... Promos are more effective if they are a rarity and I think promos should be more on card than off although Promos when done well can be good... Basically.. to me an RP doesn't matter whether it is off camera or on.
Chaos says:
As far as Wilson is concerned and his loss of the title not being as controversial, it was different having a wrestler(character) who didn't give a damn about being the champion... I saw him as one of the few who understood what I wanted for RAWF... HIs matches were more important than the finish, win or loss, he hurt people... Severely..
James Potterfield says:
before we drop it one more from TRD TRDrawf: Shouldn’t our rp's also be based around the fact that we are pro wrestlers?
Chaos says:
RAWF surpassed just wrestlers long ago... The men who have been in the RAWF have been vicious, evil, sadistic men as well as heroes for the people... I think that the RPS should be about the character itself... Sometimes people seem to forget that they are warriors in a very violent very sadistic place and sometimes let their characters forget that as well.
James Potterfield says:
who are some old RAWFers you'd wish would return and where are these old rpers coming from?
Chaos says:
Returning superstars that I'd like to see... Let's get old school... Would like to see Maul, Brian Eidson, Frank Gunzel, Tom E. Gun, Pimpster... Ass Smacker
James Potterfield says:
Ass Smacker was always fun
Chaos says:
That guy has a sense of humor I'd like to see Brian Jacobs return as well... Pitfall... lots of people JYD.. Brandy...
James Potterfield says:
Brian Jacobs return for the 2343th time that guy always comes back and seems cool then disappears quickly
Chaos says:
At one time he was awesome.... but his last few returns died before they got started
James Potterfield says:
Was Jimi and brandy as good as champions as you wanted them to be?
Chaos says:
Well, to be honest, those are two great examples of some incredible talent that once they won the belt lost a lot of their momentum.. prior to championship status they were incredible... Top Notch. But once they attained that level, they seem to not try as hard.
James Potterfield says:
do you think that comes from a “I deserve to be champion for as long as the people before me” sentiment?
Chaos says:
People don't seem to realize that they should work harder to keep a title than to earn it
James Potterfield says:
Do you think this is because people see TRH be champion forever.. Tommy Payne have a long reign and others and just assume they were winning just because they were champion?
Chaos says:
yeah, they don't seem to realize these people busted their asses to hold the belts that long..
James Potterfield says:
Ok of the new crop who are you liking?
Chaos says:
Outlaw, Awesome, Vandal, Cordington and Halie all seem strong
James Potterfield says:
Ok not just to cause controversy but because it is fairly interesting topic how mad were you about that match switch a while back?
Chaos says:
I was pissed... Two people I trusted lied to me...
James Potterfield says:
do you think they were being malicious?
Chaos says:
No, I don't think they had the intention of being malicious per se... But the fact that they intentionally tried to hide it from me pissed me off
James Potterfield says:
and at least I had to assume because they did try to hide there was bit of underhandedness going on
Chaos says:
That's what made me the most angry was the fact they tried to hide it from me. The fact that they wrote the matches, emailed them to each other and then emailed them to me from the people who were supposed to write them just showed me they were trying to pull a fast one on me... I tried to always be up front with my bookers and this wasn't up front... But I hold no ill will as of this moment in time. Both have apologized to me and I think they both think it was a mistake as
James Potterfield says:
In the last asylum Simon monk owner of ICE took a question about the possibility of doing a cross promotional enterprise with RAWF would you be interested in that or would that just be the source of more headaches given the past history of invasion involving the RAWF....
Chaos says:
well I wouldn't mind looking into the cross promotional thing... I need to get a good look at ICE but if it's as good as I hear I would be up for it.
James Potterfield says:
speaking of invasions Why did the SCW invasion fail so badly?
Chaos says:
Most of the SCWers had strong characters in RAWF and didn't want to push their other characters here... The others just couldn't keep up with the competition
James Potterfield says:
do you feel SCW was given a fair shot?
Chaos says:
Yes, I just don't think any of them capitalized on it
James Potterfield says:
Are any of the SCWers even still around?
Chaos says:
Mainly just the ones who already had characters here. Not many Kon Artist has returned although he started here originally.. some others had characters in both
James Potterfield says:
did it bother on some level that SCW was started at the same time RAWF was sort of in down time and did even though wasn’t trying to steal talent... did steal talent and was sort of started to be like fancier version of RAWF? given the recruitment drive and look at this fed posts on the RAWF ooc baord and given the group running it Showtime, Tommy Payne, Darksider, Leiss even though leiss really wasn't that involved and Darksider bailed
Chaos says:
Actually no... At the time I was even thinking of ending RAWF... But I decided against it and also SCW wasn't trying to run me out of business... just happened that some people enjoyed themselves there... I don't think it actually hurt RAWF though... RAWF was hurting on it's own... Also the face that RAWF wrestlers were running it just showed me they wanted to try something different... I think they learned alot about just how tough it really is
James Potterfield says:
to me at least with some of the people running it seemed as if they did try to be better out of spite than RAWF
Chaos says:
I think they thought they had some ideas on how to do it better than I was doing it... They tried and had some successes and some failures... All in all it was a learning experience for both them and me... I kept an eye on SCW at the time
James Potterfield says:
why is RAWF so gender unbias?
Chaos says:
The women can beat men thing
James Potterfield says:
yes personally I think if they rp well enough they should win I know others still can't get past this
but RAWF more than other feds is more equally right even if brandy thinks she was getting screwed....
Chaos says:
In the beginning, we had a women's title.. but that really limited female players who wanted to play female wrestlers... I know if I was a woman and wanted to play a woman character in a game, I would feel that I should have equal chances...
James Potterfield says:
logical
Chaos says:
I mean look at video games, women characters can do as well as male characters... sometimes better (Tekken is a good example) and isn't that what this is? A game?
Besides, someone shouldn't win cause their character is a man. Simply put, if you got a problem losing to a woman, you better make sure you out RP them
James Potterfield says:
Indeed. Was brandy getting screwed or impatient?
Chaos says:
impatient
James Potterfield says:
care to elaborate?
Chaos says:
how many other feds have even considered letting a woman be world champ.... In RAWF, it happened.... She was worried that she was being held back cause she is a woman... She was just getting beat fairly... I didn't want to just give it to her cause she was a woman and I was aware of the prejudice others had, but I didn't feel the same way.. There's only one thing I even resent about her becoming champ and that's that Jimi decided to bow out and give the belt to her... He didn't need to do that.. She had him beat on her own and I think it devalued her title victory. I really hate when someone bows out as champ... It makes a mockery out of the title
James Potterfield says:
so you don't resent her but the situation?
Chaos says:
exactly.. I think the fact that she felt Jimi handed it to her and bowed made it seem like she didn't deserve it and she most certainly did
James Potterfield says:
and this is about the other thing do you suppose jimi bowed out so as to have the I didn't lose excuse or just because he needed to leave?
Chaos says:
Not sure whether Jimi bowed out because he had to or for the excuse..;. Hopefully because he needed to and not the other
James Potterfield says:
who are you favorite all time RAWF rpers?
Chaos says:
Gunzel, Untouchable, Simon Grundy, Maul, Crippler, Brian Eidson, Darksider, Mojo / TRH, Showtime, TRD, Wilson, Brandy, JYD, Maul, The End, Trever Leiss and a few others
James Potterfield says:
ok becasue I've seen the name on few cards who is the End?
Chaos says:
the End... Also controlled Daniel Robitaille... and Shadow Man
was a very solid RPer and made some of the better PPV logos I have
James Potterfield says:
Was The Shadow really getting unappreciated like some seemed to think or was he just slipping?
Chaos says:
Shadow was very solid but started to slip a little after getting the title
James Potterfield says:
What was the deal with the three owners angle? and did that get executed as well as it could of
Chaos says:
It was an interesting angle with TRD, DS and Synn all in control... Could have been executed better but still I think was a pretty decent angle Also a good excuse to put out a couple of Victor Synn RPs...
James Potterfield says:
I know I believe I heard the two other participants wanted to end it quicker because it wasn't getting the reaction that wanted... do you think that sometimes you have to try harder to do your own angles in the RAWF where as the rpers won't alway help you out if not directly involved and did you like how it ended?
Chaos says:
Sometimes you have to put a little extra effort into angles and as far as the end of the angle, could have been better but still wasn't too bad... Liked the tie in with Victoria being the daughter and running off the other two,...
James Potterfield says:
what are some of the more insane things RAWFers have pulled and what have you had to say outright no to?
Chaos says:
Well, we've gone to such extremes that I haven't said no to much... How many other feds have had a Last Man Breathing match?Chaos says:
And the TRH / Wilson war took things further than most
James Potterfield says:
did you ever want to tell them slow it down or just becasue they were both cool with letting it go?
Chaos says:
I did, but they were both into it so I let it progress further and push the envelope to places it never had been before
James Potterfield says:
Why did Wilson just suddenly drop his character?
Chaos says:
You'd have to ask him... Think he needed a change mostly
James Potterfield says:
is there anything you like to see happen in the RAWF in the near future?
Chaos says:
Just to continue getting better and maybe eclipse some of the heights it has reached in the past
James Potterfield says:
If I look through RAWF event's past why do I see Randy moss? and is that supposed to be the randy moss?
Chaos says:
Yes, it's the Randy Moss... The football player..> The rules at the time said no real life wrestlers, but that was it... The idea was brought to me and he asked permission and I granted it
James Potterfield says:
and from TRDrawf: Chaos, through the entire time I've known you and The RAWF, you have an uncanny ability of forgiveness in letting people back into the RAWF that many have thought to "Burn Bridges" with you and the RAWF in the past. But you do however let them back in with open arms, whereas many fed heads would tell them to piss off. What is your philosophical view on this?
Chaos says:
try to allow people a second chance... People make mistakes and only through these do they learn..> I've made some bad mistakes in the past and would hope that given a second chance, I wouldn't make the same mistake... I allow people a second cahnce, third chance and sometimes a fourth chance... but I do tend to make them wait a good while before coming back... Allowing them time to hopefully learn their lesson
James Potterfield says:
would you ever just cut some one off?
Chaos says:
yes I think the Big Dawg crushing incident was a good example...
James Potterfield says:
what would it take considering you let some people back who might not have gotten that chance in other feds...
Chaos says:
mostly the attempt and serious desire to ruin the RAWF...
James Potterfield says:
OK a few months back. Tom E. Gun was getting jumped weekly be masked tall guy. do you remember?
Chaos says:
barely.. not positive who the masked guy was... I think it was to be a character he was gonna bring in...
James Potterfield says:
word around the camp fire it was going to be some one rping as hulk hogan is there any truth to that
Chaos says:
That was it
James Potterfield says:
seriously? I think this begs the question why would you allow that?
Chaos says:
Yeah, eventually hogan was to be humiliated... this was meant to be more of a light hearted bit
James Potterfield says:
which leads me to another question... why is it you allow some people to be hulk hogan randy moss and ICP and other to have ICP as manager but you denied Jaguar khan having Jay and Silent bob as managers?
Chaos says:
I don't remember denying it... In fact, they were on a couple cards I believe
James Potterfield says:
One but as joke, when the request was made it was denied
James Potterfield says:
anyway
James Potterfield says:
ON to a bit more of current debate then I'll let you go
Chaos says:
Well, if Jaguar comes back... he can have them... that's another on my list of both favorite RPers and one I want back
James Potterfield says:
Darksider lost on Pay Per view to crippler and raised a stink does he have legit claim or is he just being a sore loser?
Chaos says:
I think he has a legit claim and not just being a sore loser but I stand by my decision... On my scorecard they were as close to tied as it comes, but I just thought Crippler had put forth an incredible effort and reminded me of the "old" Crippler... Granted, DS had one more RP, but I thought the quality of Crippler's was a little higher..... It sparks the quality / quantity debate... But let me clarify quickly... Darksider has some of the top quality in the game and doesn't rely on quantity... i just thought this time, Crippler had him beat but I think it could have gone either way.... Let me put you on the hot seat momentarily... You read the RPs?
James Potterfield says:
Mostly
Chaos says:
What do you think?

From what you read.
James Potterfield says:
honestly since I'm not actually rping I'm not reading as judge mentally as much as I used to
it seemed close but I also think DS is world title material and if he lost it would free him for that and crippler would do better at hardcore title level...
Chaos says:
I would agree with that assessment
James Potterfield says:
but at the same time the rper in me says if I'm a match and I can win and/or I don't want to be in match I can't win maybe that’s just me, why did showtime not want to feud with grave digger even before the matt white rp?
Chaos says:
I've always been one in which the win or loss didn't matter to me as much.... Most people don't feel that way though
Chaos says:
I never understood why he didn't... before the matt white thing... I think it could have been a great feud.
James Potterfield says:
but was it me or did he go out of his way not to feud with him?
Chaos says:
he went out of his way it seemed to me
James Potterfield says:
I have a ton of more stuff to ask but this has gone on for an age as it is. Thanks for being on the show...
Chaos says:
No problem... Thanks for having me and any time you want another interview and chance to ask more questions just let me know
James Potterfield says:
Alright

/The Scene shift back to James./

Solid interview. He avoided a few things I suppose. I love it how the presidents of feds or just people in general want to be all controversial want to start shit and then want to answer the tough question but then get on this show and pretty much are as polite as you can be will come on here then remember they don’t want to appear biased.

/James ruffles papers./

One more thing. Efedders never put (all read) in the titles of your rps. Its childish and annoying. And really makes me not want to read it. But hey maybe its just me. Hopefully not. Its very jackoff fed like behavior. If I want to read I’ll read it. Please stop assuming you need all to read your rps. If its good I’ll read. All the way through... that is.

Funny thing though is the man mainly responsible for this I read regardless.

Who doesn’t love bone crusher? We have to get him on this show.
But moving on we have one more guest on the show. This is the last of these two interviews issues. I promise to get a classic match in next week Really. I promise. Maybe. Anyway welcome to the show The Man behind Tommy Payne, The amazing Joey T and David Wilson...

James Potterfield: Welcome to the Asylum
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Much anticipated pleasure to be here James
James Potterfield:
Finally getting you blasted interview eh? Alright for the Efedders out there who are unfamiliar with you please give us breif reason as to why you important and stuff...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I've been around the block, many of the ICE guys might know me from NEW as The Amazing Joey T... in RAWF I'm Known as Tommy Payne or David Wilson.
James Potterfield:
how long have you been in Efedding?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I started in like 1995 in a nice simulated fed, but only for a couple months. Then re-emerged in 1997 and have been for the most part since.
James Potterfield:
How is it you came into the RAWF?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
These two dolts from my first real fantasy fed tried to start their own fed called something like Turbo Championship wrestling... I went there often to check up on the place, and found it didn't last long, but Bill Zone left a message for everyone to join this fed called RAWF.... so I clicked on the link, and from there on it was history. Mr. Showtime was in that Turbo Champion Shit wrestling, which was sort of why I pegged him out during my opening run in RAWF
James Potterfield:
Ahh he was trying to guess you identity upon your entrance but you ended up not being who he thought you were
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Nah... he ended some guys undefeated streak, and the guy bitched about losing and left. Ironic?
James Potterfield:
Was the RAWF culture shock?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It was more like a freshman on his first day into high school. I'd never seen anyone with such rp talent, but I knew that if I tried hard enough, I could be just as good.
James Potterfield:
Which you obviously did..
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Thats why I wish some of my old rp's were still accessible to these guys trying to make it today
James Potterfield:
You were also in in NEW how did that develop?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
NEW was decent. Despite what Simon said, I don't hold anything against Josh about booking... Josh was my #1 Joey T fan.
James Potterfield:
I believe that was me that said you held something against him... you never had one grudge with josh? not one?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Only our despute about the classic TV Show "All in the Family" Ironically, we haven't talked to each other since.
James Potterfield:
then why didn't you come to ICE?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
At the time I think I may have said I didn't like Simon too well... but if RAWF didn't keep me busy enough I would. Also at time of ICE, wasnt it the start of the booking board? I definately knew I couldn't do all 3. To this day I mark my words... if RAWF Closes down... err if Chaos closes RAWF, I will be at ICE on that following Monday.
James Potterfield:
They what was the deal with Simon monk, because I do recall you on a few occasion declaring never to go to ICE becasue he ran it and becasue the NEW people played favorites...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
NEW did play favorites, but you just have to become one of their favorites. No different then what HHH is doing now. But as for Simon... I'll explain
James Potterfield:
That not a good ananology I depise HHH. Why do people alway use WWE to defend there actions in efedding then bash the hell out of WWE when not needing them for defense? but do explain the simon thing
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Who doesn't? Either Eddie Death or Jack Taylor (whom both pretty much referred me to NEW) posted something on the OOC board. I replied on like my first week there something silly in my Joey T voice. Simon replied very coldly with "This is the OOC board for OOC comments, if you can't distinguish between the two, then find another fed." or something to the nature. And already given a pep talk about how NEW has this "inner circle" I took it a bit hard. I mean if you don't answer my polls or OOC comments thats one thing, but don't be an ass.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
But I've gotten way over it, and it was kinda stupid for me to keep a grudge. And to Simon, I'm humbled that you paid attention to the character and would have liked to have him in your federation.
James Potterfield:
But you flat out refused the two or three times I asked you if you wanted in..
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
No, I don't want in. The closest I ever came to joining ICE was when that one PPV went mad wrong with David Wilson, and then like a week or two later I did this character change that got jipped. I overheated and seriously considered jumping ship till I realized I was being stupid.
James Potterfield:
Yea people were taking you own cahracter to heart and you weren't
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Ok. David Wilson doesn't care about titles. Hell no he doesn't. But unless a really request a strategy or something, I'd like to earn my win. But sometimes I realize it's give and take. As a handler you like to be successful too.
James Potterfield:
SOmetimes you just have to be specific
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yeah, that can be accounted for.
James Potterfield:
So were you Mr. Good?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yeah unfortunately... actually Mr. Good was Tommy Payne in disguise, but that never came about. I think DS maybe I had talked into running by me during one of my promos as Mr. Good so people wouldnt think it was me... Kind of like the Blue Blazer gimmick that kicked ass... before it went bad.
James Potterfield:
How did it go bad it only existed for what three weeks?>
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I tried to keep it an honest secret... I got no reviews, takes, or anything about it, so I thought it was RAWF Wrestlecrap and cut it before it got mold on it. Your the ONLY person to mention it outside of a RAWF card
James Potterfield:
was it bad or just never played out
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
When you send a comedian out, and everyone stares during his jokes, you cut him off the stage. I felt like I was at the friggin' apollo
James Potterfield:
I don't know given that it was against jimi you had to expect he wasn't ging to acknowledge at least for a as long as he could...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I did it to more than Jimi. Crush at least once, and I think I did something to Machine and Jimi on the same card. or whatever the hell Roman James was calling himself. whereas when I was TAJT, people were raving after like 2 or 3 rp's "That's funny shit man!"
James Potterfield:
RAWF can be fairly oblvious to the anyhting but the obvious. But moving on.... and before I get into any rally hardcore stuff do you ahve an amusing keith story?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yea! I was the infamous "Anonymous" on his RP board... or a OOC Jackoff or whatever you called them last asylum.
James Potterfield:
haha
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It was quite fun tormenting him, and Keith would reply like "HEY BOY! YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR MOUTH! IF YOU GOT SHIT TO SAY I'LL MEET YOU IN MY BACKYARD ANYTIME!"
James Potterfield:
Keith is wacky
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
He's a moron. So is James. I apologize to you, Kev, and Jimi for violating your board space, but I just wanted to verbally trash him everywhich way. Which was bad though, because there were many "Copycat" Anonymous' on the board that people thought were me too.
James Potterfield:
Oh god we were already violating the board space. EFW was a joke...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Which was why I trampled on it. I had no right, but I just wanted to trash him.
James Potterfield:
don't worry no save like Jimi cared at that point and I doubt anyone knows why he cared....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yeah... that was the only time in my life I felt sorry for Jimi. He tried to make bread out of dogshit, no matter how hard it was.
James Potterfield:
Indeed Moving along you helped run SCW did you not?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yes I did, with like a one month abscence inbetween I was there for the whole run pretty much.
James Potterfield:
Alright
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
While Rp'ing as Tommy Payne in RAWF holding that precious world title.
James Potterfield:
I bet you know the next question but
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Oh I do.
James Potterfield:
Why did you start running a fed with some well two people you dind't really get along with oOC or at least on semi regular basis got into rather large ooc spats dare I say wars. It always boggled me even as you ran it and would complain about what certain parties wwere doing now in SCW
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I got along with Showtime fine. He is a nice person, can recruit people, and even have some good ideas on things. But with SCW I found out that where Show and I clashed was with how we managed things. I did not like his managing abilities, and I had similar trouble when he was on the booking staff with RAWF. He would have someone who did two 2 paragraph rp's like Jada beat Loleta who spent all week putting out 6 solid rp's.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
And when someone freaked out over a gun rp, Showtime all of a sudden snapped and said "thats outta line! I'm deleting it!" And caused controversy all over. But I never wanted to give up on SCW. It was a project started when Showtime and I said "Let's start a fed!" But from the point of the name, It was the Showtime Championship Wrestling up and down.
James Potterfield:
Didn't showtime actually quit the fed and close on few occasions other then when it got hacked
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I think he just threatned to. He did take "Breaks" didn't he? I quit once, but got over the quarrels and came back. hich was my 1 month abscence.
James Potterfield:
I alwas kinda saw SCW as Showtime personaly do what he wanted fed...on the many many many occasion that the management had to yell at the rpers
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It was. He would do heelish things, but not want his characters to get booed. It was weird.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
His whole stable would interrupt the main event and beat people sensless. But they were cheered and loved the next week.
James Potterfield:
why did you you guys yell at the non rping IC champion that ended up being A character run by showtime himself?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I had no clue that was Showtime until I was told by another source.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
And getting it out of him is the Showtime classic... "No... No... not me... No... Not me, I'd tell you... No... No.... No... ALRIGHT! IT'S ME! BIG WHOOPITY DOO DOO! SO WHAT!"
James Potterfield:
Ahhh he is a sneaky guy
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
We all can be.
James Potterfield:
SCW hacked or closed down?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It was closed. Jimi Sinister even told me in a MSN conversation that Showtime told him he did... I think something like give the password to someone else to destroy it, because Show couldn't do it himself or something. So technically hacked. But it was closed.
James Potterfield:
ANd right when it seemed to be getting good too actually... A few more SCw things
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I wouldn't say that... I never planned on Freddie Fang coming through all the way.
James Potterfield:
Why no love for Trever leiss? at least in SCW
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Theres love for Leiss. Me and Him are actually working on a nice project... well he is, but im talking him into it. LOL But as for SCW.... Trever was the invisible man in RAWF.
James Potterfield:
at one point there was serious lack of love
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Mr. Dissappearo Junior. I never talked to him, or conversed with him, so I had no sympathy or empathy for him. He was just a showtime crony for all I knew. And when Showtime discussed it over with me, there was to be three heads of the Fed. Not four.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Leiss was brought in because Showtime couldn't say No to Darksider who was complaining about not being asked to join the fed head state. So here we have a showtime buddy that no one talks to, or converses with, that Showtime could even just be playing the role of himself! So no, I didn't want a fourth one in there.
James Potterfield:
Which seems to not be the case given some recent events ie that don't let leiss join petition....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
And the Anti-Leiss Petition, I was the mediator to get Trever INTO RAWF because everyone else was over reacting
James Potterfield:
I was actually suprised he was alive and coming back or didn't believe he was actually coming back
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
which is why I will never let go of the inside joke that trever "Is one of those kids you find hanging out in those dark alleys now!"
James Potterfield:
I actually never have seen a kid hanign out in a dark alley....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
oh you have on tv thats what he means
James Potterfield:
I really only see bums in darkalleys on TV
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
well picture those thugs in that one charles bronson deathwish movie mohawk and piercings spraypainting anarchy... running rampant with chaos...
James Potterfield:
Iv'e never seena charles bronson movie actually..anyway but if you and showtime got along at least with some creative differences why was darksider on the staff?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
We wanted a third. DS was a good idea, I think Show was leaning towards Trever
James Potterfield:
but darksider. Him and showtime thats just a massive weird argument waiting to happen
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
DS was hired by Showtime alone though... but actually 90% of the time DS and I agree on mostly everything. But we still have our spats too. DS did his thing where he makes Showtime feel bad, so Showtime hires him thing.
James Potterfield:
BUt given the past history of DS/Showtime ooc tiffs since I've joined RAWF it just seems like asking for trouble
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Thats asking for Humor
James Potterfield:
humor trouble whatever
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
plus when DS showed up, I dont think he gave two shits, so that made it nice.
James Potterfield:
Yea he bailed really quick
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
He wrote matches, so he was worthy
James Potterfield:
So what was the deal with Loleta.. I know most people some weird booking quirk would occur everyye now and then but with that character it was like every card.. why?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Well, like up above I stated showtime jobbed Loleta hardcore to a 2 rp a week with two paragraphs and a picture Jada.On a PPV for the belt.
James Potterfield:
I know
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
And he was doing other things like having characters drop belts to who they wanted to drop them to, etc. etc. and people were getting shafted. Loleta blew up, like a natural woman does.
James Potterfield:
well I would say that she got screwed more than just the one time... and the rp deletion was very weird
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
oh yes yeah over the gun. I tell you what though, that rp alone is the only one that stands up to Darksider's parody of suicide Rp's on Showtime And it also makes me want to note something to E-Fedders James, if you would let me?
James Potterfield:
Oh go for it
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
E-Fedders first off Don't use Celebrities or Real Wrestlers in your roleplays. It's unoriginal, dumb, and a lack of creativity. And also, if you use that celebrity say, "J-Lo" For instance, that doesn't mean you OWN J-Lo. So someone that isn't your creation is by far eligible for a severe beating in someone elses roleplay. You didn't make them, you didn't create them. If you use J-Lo in a rp, I'm going to put her in mine just so I can Gatorslap her once.
James Potterfield:
where did that come from?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Thanks James.
James Potterfield:
other than the kon artist ICP thing....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
The Loleta Gun Roleplay was where Loleta shot and killed the entire McMahon family because Sexy Candy was the "Cousin" of Stephanie. So they hung out with HHH and the fam every rp
James Potterfield:
Which was annoying
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It was. I know Mandy/Candy or what not and she's a nice person and a much better rp'er now.
James Potterfield:
Actually wasn't Sexy Candy her sister....? or shall I not ever get into that?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Lets not.
James Potterfield:
ok, speaking of stuf I probaly shouldn't get into what was the deal with the showtime Email thing?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Showtimes email got hacked. Somehow a mass email was sent to all that were in SCW a supposed Email between Jimi and Showtime where Showtime admitted the hack shit was a fluke. Email supposedly came up with my IP Show quit. blamed me. then forgave me and blamed Brandy. And to this day neither I nor Brandy have ever hacked an email account.
I got the email (was one of the SCW recepients) and was like "I'll be damned... it wasnt hacked afterall." and then went back to eating my ham sandwich. I didnt really care.
James Potterfield:
ok Why was brandy so paranoid in RAWF?
James Potterfield:
I ask only becasue at one point you lived with her and would ahve better frame of reference.....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It runs in her family bloodline.
James Potterfield:
Thats it?
James Potterfield:
Se would a claim on ocasion that she got word from people on the baord that she wa surpposely getting screwed to this day I have no idea who....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yeah. Thats about the only topic i dont really want to indulge in too much... No, She would sit around talking to people like David Laursen and Kev Short, Showtime, and whoever else and say: "You know, I think I'm getting shorthanded" and they'd say "Yeah... your right. You are." Now like a good analogy, its like two steel workers bitching about the company they work for that pays them 30 bucks an hour with full benefits. They all bitch, just brandy took it to a whole new level.
James Potterfield:
Was there anything kev wouldn't argee with at one point?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
He didnt agree with my "attitude" for a while I guess you could say or Darksider's
James Potterfield:
Did/Does the lack of comunitcation the Booking board bug you sometimes? For the life of me it seemed some people would just not respond to anything on that board...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
It seems to be not as organized as before... but I love the idea that chaos decides who wins everything. Jimi and Showtime never did. Well Show more than JImi. Show would at least once in a while. but nowadays its like gritting teeth for someone to pick their match.
James Potterfield:
Jimi I know was afraid or not wanting DS to yell at him.. which leads me to something else why are some RAWFer afraid or anxious about Darksider?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
But then in IM's he would say openly "Fuck DS"
James Potterfield:
I always and still do think jimi would be much better off if he would just be more up front with certin ideas and feelings...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Yes Jimi would be. But the problem is after some of his ideas get discouraged, he's afraid of anymore of his ideas being rejected. So he just doesn't speak.
James Potterfield:
I always and still do think jimi would be much better off if he would just be more up front with certin ideas and feelings... though isn't nesscarily just him Did you notice this upon getting into the RAWF.. the fear of Darksider as I would call it...
James Potterfield:
example: When he "died" lost at sea whatever people would IM express there happiness he was gone
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Oh I got a few of those, I was pissed 2 reasons
1.) I was on the upswing and wanted a match with him
2.) I asked him about teaming up, and he replied "Sure, but I've got some major things going down first" and THEN HE FUCKIN DIED! What an ass
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
You need to have a good standard bearer like DS in every fed. He is the "MAIN GOAL" guy or the gatekeeper, if you can beat him, or have a successful feud with him, then youve become one of the top tiers of the fed. But you don't march in like Bone Crusher "BLAH BLAH I'VE BEEN HERE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO AND I WANT TO KICK DARKSIDERS ASS!" Your asking for your ass to be handed to you. Another reason I want old TRD rp's to be accessible
James Potterfield:
Ahh
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
My first challenge? Who was it to? Show? Leiss?
James Potterfield:
Maul?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Big f'in Dawg
James Potterfield:
you mention showtime frequently in the first rps
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
that was my first challenge. My opening rp's I slandered everyone
James Potterfield:
its libel in print
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Hell my Sample RP trashed Mojo If I recall
James Potterfield:
I have no idea what your sample rp was about
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
But I'm talking like "I want to kick your ass next thursday bitch" I know, im just giving examples
James Potterfield:
Alright alright both barrels you vs Darskider mayhem match what was the friggin deal?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Chaos said it was too close to call, but he edged me out on my quality So I won
James Potterfield:
Wait what?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
But wait The coach throws the red flag for an instant replay to be called
James Potterfield:
wait do you mean you edge him out on quality?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
basically if Chaos said that any on carders would be bonus rps then DS should have won with those. But perhaps Chaos had reasoning behind the win... he usually does, and it usually makes sense. Thats one thing I will say for Chaos, I may not always 100% agree with him, but what he does say makes sense, which is why he's the greatest Fed head of all time
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
not kissing his ass or anything he doesnt pay me shit haha
James Potterfield:
OK w moving quit along why is it RAWF wrestlers have super spines?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
What the hell is a super spine?
James Potterfield:
Darksider, Synn, Tommy Payne all had serious career ending spinal injuries yet all returned
James Potterfield:
thats what I mean
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
what?
James Potterfield:
why spine injures at? why not acls? or necks or knees? Synn, Payne, DS all spines...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
But look at all the spine injuries Who wrote every spine injury? Chaos.
James Potterfield:
Darksider planned his
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
The guy loves em. I just wanted TRD to be brutalized on his way out. He chose a sledgehammer into the spine yeah, and after that the sledgehammer became a trademark
but when you hit the back, the commentator says spine, because it sounds like it meant something might not of really been the spine he don't know
James Potterfield:
alright that whole part was wacked, and the hammer to teh spine was trade mark after ds..
but The Shadow was he really underpushed?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
not really. He was a GREAT roleplayer. BUt got enveloped into wanting to put rap lyrics into his roleplays. Im actually Glad shadow took the belt off of me. It wasnt the plan at the time, but Tom E Gun was never about making plans.
James Potterfield:
hahaha His plans are usually ok shurg whatever...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
And when the competition thickened, Shadow said it himself, he got mental block, and couldnt think of anything.
James Potterfield:
weren't there some on the Booking board who felt he was under utilized?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
At times... but towards the end of his career didn't he main event 2 or 3 ppvs with Brandy against TRH for the title? And who could forget the Tom E Vs. Shadow Brit vs. Brit for the title on a PPV
that was a memorable moment.
James Potterfield:
a massive 2 rps to 1 and half.... and he no showed both mainevents
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Did he?
James Potterfield:
one he did a rp for
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
well then there was no excuse for the underutilization when he got the ball, he dropped it
but his last 5 months I think he mainevented 3 of the PPVs so he should be happy in his retired career, he beat TRD, thats enough to celebrate over. haha kidding
James Potterfield:
Moving on Why is it even to this day the ghost of quanity hangs ove rthe RAWF?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Because Darksider will never forget the fact that all 7 of his world title reigns were done under the SCORING Procedure And today we like to do angles along with the quality of rps. Quantity only counts when you put forth quality DS has some legitament bitchings, but I'll throw the helm to Chaos on deciding these things any day of the week and twice on sunday.
James Potterfield:
Do you follow ICE?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I visit the site every now and again... check the roster/records... and occassionally look for stirr-ups on the OOC board like back in the Day where it was Charley Vs. Kev in the battle of U.S. and British history OOC WAR. I know Zero is the champ, and Jimi is the SCARLETT ANGEL! Which I find a bit feministic, but he did wear dresses... I dunno, just reminds me of that hooker in Clue
James Potterfield:
Hahaha I never though to mention that he should have used Archangel but yea
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
indeed
James Potterfield:
OK A few more things. BACW what was the deal?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
BAD ASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING! Chaos like went MIA, and everyone snapped on each other and went separate ways like in that book Lord of the Flies... Darksider joined this fed called BACW which was a real professional site, and still is on the outside.
James Potterfield:
and?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
He got me to join, but only after the prez Ron Batee decided to make a farm fed for all applicants. Im stuck with winners like Extreme Future Judge Dredd and Queen of Hardcore Roxanne that totally blow. We're all told to "get better" but we dont know what better really is in there eyes because Batee has all the rp boards blocked off. so after a month of this shittyness and only 2 cards both a paragraph long I state my complaints to Batee himself. He brushed me off and said he didn't have time for that, and if the farm fed prez couldnt handle it, too bad, we're stuck there.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I said he should because things are getting bad he tells me to Fuck off gets my name wrong
and then makes his entire April Annhilation Pay Per View opening Page a BLAST to me
And the fucker still got my name wrong and its still in the archives for all to see and look up.
But amazingly, after that, the farm fed crumbled, and you can access the rp boards now
And MIRACULOUSLY, After I left, Gravedigger was allowed to sign up and be a part of their main roster immediately. And folks if you don't know, I am the WORST roleplayer that batee has ever met in his life he says. Bet that makes Bone Crusher feel bad.
James Potterfield:
It must speaking of Bone Crusher, what is gonna take to get the Older RAWF rpers that are just now returning after lonmg while to acknowledge 2001 and 2002?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Defeats and more defeats don't get me wrong, most are good. Even Bone Crusher isn't a BAD roleplayer. But when they realize that this is like technology, it keeps getting bigger, better, stronger and faster. And if you don't evolve, you won't win If DS stays the same way he is now, and refuses to change, within a year, he would not be in the same status upper quo that he is in
even he changes or modifies his rp style to beat the people who are learning and adapting
James Potterfield:
I swear there is a whole year or two that existed that no one wnats t talk about seriously I want to tell the RAWFers that stuff has happened since the last time DS was champion....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Oh I know, its irritating at least read the god damn roster page and find my bio right there it says I was in RAWF before and that tells you to start checking title pages
James Potterfield:
When you ame intot eh RAWF did you read the many many many archived cards?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
And for bone crusher to call himself a grizzled veteran and the rest of us rookies... WHA?
No, I didnt but I knew that DS had been there for a while and Big Dawg was the village idiot
and you go from there
James Potterfield:
did you ever read the old cards?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I looked at History page for titles and saw Darksiders name 1234567 times on the world title list.
only Occassionally especially as a new guy. I wanted to know what I was up against especially when my first ppv was against Ass Smacker... who the hell is ass smacker I thought?
I searched back older rp's though more than older cards
James Potterfield:
Ass Smacker was hilarious
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
to this day I dont know WTF the initials DTB stand for
James Potterfield:
they stood for DTB
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I do remember Chaos has one PPV, I think an old birthday bash where it slowly scrolls up
man I hate that I refuse to read that
James Potterfield:
but anyway in this vein... of the rpers that have come and gone who do you want to see back in RAWF?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Of course we all say Maul... but also Tom E Gun, Mojo in some sense....GUNZEL. I was just talking to him the other day, and he said he's been thinking of returning. Colonel Kite was genius. Pure Genius
James Potterfield:
his little mouse?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
yes
James Potterfield:
wasn't that the mosue form the green mile too?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Gunzel threw me off guard
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I started rping about wanting to beat his ass and kill him
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
and here the guy wanted to be killed
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
no, that was Mr. Jingles
James Potterfield:
ok
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
he begged me to put him out of his misery
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
what do you say to that?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Hrmmm... OK!?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Hold still I'll get the scissors
James Potterfield:
Given RAWF that couold be possible...
James Potterfield:
How was FWA?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
FWA was decent. Awesome rp'ers, shitty ass results
James Potterfield:
(super obscure now)
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I wrote a match for that one Aussie Prez that came and went
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
guy never watched wrestling
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
not sure if he could rp either
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
but they made him prez when no one else wanted it
James Potterfield:
FWA was wacky... place is what formed rpers like the Zero man into what they were...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I wrote them a hardcore RAWF match the way the matches should be done. Till this day I don't know how happy I made 2 rp'ers
James Potterfield:
No he was the vice prez before
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Dagon was great over there. Would love to see him in RAWF
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I always wanted to make fun of the cali clique but could never get my font size that big and back down to original size...
James Potterfield:
Cliff Blood threatened to come to RAWF a few times...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Cliff was good indeed
James Potterfield:
I always enjoyed Punk and Dawknis..
James Potterfield:
Dawkins*
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
FWA was actually the first place I tested David Wilson adn Paul Marshall
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
Not a lot of people cared for Dawkins I heard
James Potterfield:
I know this
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
your viewers dont
James Potterfield:
He pissed people of so of course I liked him
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
I think we need a zero spinoff in rawf
James Potterfield:
thus the seqway
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson:
he's great with pictures. Especially the one fed where he had a stairing contest with the United States Title
James Potterfield:
I fairly certain Zero is occupied
James Potterfield:
But FWA was were you developed Wilson how did that come about?

Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: It was alright... not sure if everyone got the concept, but it quickly died out when RAWF returned and everyone went back to normal, and i found that I couldnt manage Payne, Wilson, and Joey T at the same time
ChasZClap4: Multple characters in multiple fds gets hard once you actually begin to try in rps,
did you go through I ahve to be in 4 feds at once phase?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: We can't all be Keith Thomas'
ChasZClap4: no we can't
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: No, I can't say that I have... NEW and RAWF have been enough for me to handle, and NEW was usually laid back enough to where I didnt have to squeeze out 5 to 6 of the best work of my life just to squeeze a victory in
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: whereas NEW maybe 2... 3 if you faced Jack Taylor or preacher
ChasZClap4: What is the stupidest Efedding thing you have ever done?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: oh shit... you could probably answer this for me... what are some of the stupid things ive done in RAWF?
ChasZClap4: You call man
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Mr. Good... Singing that Another Brick in the Wall Cover... Actually coming to RAWF declaring not be Hardcore...
ChasZClap4: Who's rps are you enjoying now?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: It's a guilty pleasure, but Bone Crushers, he entertains me with the stuff he says, but gets me all riled up when he says something thats stupid, and I think he knows he's stupid for saying it. And his last rp was the bomb he told David Wilson that he paid the price for turning his back on the competition during a match ........... while he's getting taken away in a stretcher to go to the hospital.
ChasZClap4: BOne Crusher is like the Jon Wayne of RAWF though that could be said for Captain Crush... if he was ever around...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Jon I think could beat Crusher but Crusher, I think should just come out of the closet on the OOC board and say "Hey, Im meaning to be contradicting on everything, I'm just a bad spelling shorter version of Jimi Sinister"
ChasZClap4: Did Jimi do as well as champion as that feud for the belt set him up to be?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Jimi was an ok champ, but think he got burnt by the burn out syndrome that we all tend to get sometimes
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: But Im not quite sure he should have beat TRH with him every week having a new relative, or dying and coming back to life, or going to heaven and seeing mirror images of his E-VIL self
ChasZClap4: Jimi's family Tree was quite Extensive
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: He was going to bring TRD's dead wife back as his valet, or even have them related. I said no, so he kinda just avoided me for a week and started feuding with someone else after we planned feud
ChasZClap4: What was the deal with the dead wife showtime thing?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Well, Showtime and I talked shit on each other since I entered. And I don't want to say Hey, I remember you from Turbo Championship wrestling!
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: And I was working the deadwife angle, and just thought that at a PPV it would be great if perhaps that was Showtime's sister and that was the reason for all the animosity between us
ChasZClap4: and what happened to that? It seemed to die off instantly..
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: It dropped because didnt showtime quit shortly thereafter?
ChasZClap4: no He lingered on till it was aparent he had to feud with Gravedigger
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: It didnt really drop, we just stopped feuding...
ChasZClap4: then he quit
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: nooo he quit before that at least once or twice because of TRH or darksider or when he got 2 wins out of a 4 month span
ChasZClap4: NO he lingered after darksider returned for a bit
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: one was against one of TRH's side characters
ChasZClap4: No it was agianst a rper that was in Horror INc but never did anyhting and left Demonic actually was the person inquestion
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: ah
ChasZClap4: and that was before he even held the Title for his impressive week
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: If I recall, that angle stretched on in our flashback rps after the PPV didnt it?
ChasZClap4: I'm not sure
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Thats really weird because i dont remember it just being forgotten it was a great angle in my and shows view. but had I started making relations through the whole roster, thats when it loses credibility
ChasZClap4: Politics fact or Fiction?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: my apologies
ChasZClap4: two more questions
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: ok
ChasZClap4: ChasZClap4: Politics fact or Fiction?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: New age will always think they are superior to old age... old age thinking off camera rps are bullshit. People thinking that the old system or rules is the best way to be, or skeptical people that dont think they lost fairly Which is not a pot shot to Darksider

ChasZClap4:or showtime? I mean more in the sense of i'm getting screwed because of politcs?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: thats very vague... like what would I do if I were getting screwed by politics?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: If your getting screwed, find a way to be the screwer
ChasZClap4: showtime quit lasttime citing politics and hewas screwed becasue of the politcs ...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: And it was an angle jobbing. Well he was at a turmoil point where everything was going downhill. Jimi and Leia were screwing him around OOC without him knowing his character was in for some turmoil
ChasZClap4: jimi and leia were screwing him?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: and other minor things, and then he tried the "get a girl, fall in mad mad love with her, marry her in 2 months" gig, and that just made him look silly
ChasZClap4: how did leia and jimi screw him?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: and all in all his promos just started fading out. He can not tell me that if any booker other than Jimi wrote the match where Show and JYD WON the belts off of TRD & DS with that beating up of Jake McJobbers and saying "Your ass is on notice!" He was screwe when he found out that behind his back, there were planning on ditching him. Leia was going to do a rp just giving showtime divorce papers, and jumping ship to be with jimi
ChasZClap4: Behind his back on the internet..... that a whole issue in its self and one more thing the Infamous match switch your thoughts?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: which sparked the greatest Showtime rp of all
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Showtime goes to the hospital and kicks Jimi's ass and spits in his face.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Ok that match switch
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: I learned 2 things
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: 1.) Never trust a Sinister writing his own match and 2.) Never trust a Showtime "writing" a Sinister match
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Jimi wrote his matches because he felt no one else would give him the appreciation that he felt he deserved
ChasZClap4: Ive learned to be weary of both in genral when together
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Well you just realize that One is good and just makes mistakes, the other just pretends to be good
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: for his own benefit
ChasZClap4: I'll still be wary of both... I'm still of the opinion both are equally guilty, there is no ignorance in the face of the law...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: You be wary, but you dont put yourself in a position to be wary. As Long as I never run a fed with showtime again, I dont have much to be wary about.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: You don't hire a bank robber as your new teller
ChasZClap4: well yea
ChasZClap4: but just becasue you known their bank robber and you hire them to be a land scaper instead doesn't hide the fact that you robbed banks
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: you can forgive but you cant forget
ChasZClap4: thus being wary
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: you just don't let them in positions of controversy if a Mr. Showtime rp showed up on the board tomorrow it'd be fine and dandy with mostly everyone, same with Jimi, but if they were assigned booker positions within RAWF again thats when you know a mistake has been made somewhere.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: and its not just the match switch that I fault showtime for
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: He gets burnt out, and at times just writes who he feels he wants to win. Sometimes it works out, but on PPVs you just cant do that
ChasZClap4: Wel if you burned out you should stop really not make others suffer. With showtime it might be fair to say he booked based on emotion ...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: that could be true, but I refer to the Hero Killers Vs. Hired Guns whereas you refer to David Wilson Vs. TRH
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: then Jimi tries to book himself the next week "Hired Guns Vs. Hero Killers... FOR OBVIOUS REASONS"
ChasZClap4: I refered to in general.... then It happened more than once.....
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: TRH Vs. DW was completely ok'ed through Chaos to my understanding, whereas mine he told me "I don't feel like writing a match, but since I have to I'm going to have win who I want to have win."
ChasZClap4: Chaos did ok it but Showtime never read the rps....
ChasZClap4: but one more thing...
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: at least someone read them
ChasZClap4: Its more disturbin almost that theoretically that entire change could have been made based on showtime alone with out Chaos even reading anyhting... I hate booking my own winner in matchs I write becasue I neve r trust my own judgement in that sort of thing and assume I bias.. and now chaos starts giving out winner after I stop.. bastard... anway
ChasZClap4: you asked chaos where does the giving people a second chance ball stop bouncing, and in this interview frankly you been more foggiving of some that I would have thought so where does it stoop bouncing for you?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Through time I guess... I mean, there’s people like James and KT that I would prefer stray away from RAWF...
ChasZClap4: Well that a given though
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: I guess sometimes I weigh the good and the bad... through time, and sometimes venting I usually get over it. I've been on good terms with showtime since my "return" to RAWF. He keeps to himself and doesn't go out of his way for anything its seeming. And when he's like that he can be a decent person to talk to. I guess I cut it off when I outweigh the good and the bad and see through your shell that your not the person you claim to be.
ChasZClap4: Alright anything to vent before the end?
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: Just to respond to Trever last week, there were people helping each other on the booking board, stuff... he made it sound like it was the ENTIRE board. And it wasn’t. To this day I like to think I've always been an honest and fair booker, and Darksider and I have never planned any "Schemes" together to use power to envelop over the RAWF as it was told to me a long time ago. that’s it.
ChasZClap4: Suuuure
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: ehhh piss off
ChasZClap4: No I think some people plot and assume other must be doing what they are doing
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: that’s called reaction formation isn’t it? testing my psych. knowledge at 4 in the morning
ChasZClap4: Something like that.
Tommy Payne/Joey T/ Wilson: ha i hope you can fit this one on one asylum
ChasZClap4: You and me both..... peace.

This was a ok interview honestly it didn’t flow well and not because of my self or the TRD/Wilson/Joey.. There were mad technical difficulties. It just wrecked the flow. But He I’ll make due.

For future reference And I’m not picking on anyone but if you want to be interviewed please don’t ask me to remove stuff you said from the interview. Now I just had to do this and the reason was sound and I did it, but in the future no more. What’s said is said. Not to be mean but I just don’t want to have to take off anymore in record suff because people fell it stepped on people toes.. Now this time it was very understandable but just in the future for the res to you aspiring interviewees. Sorry about the lack of ICE presence on this episode but hey dems the breaks.

Next week I hope to have Nate Shaft or Outlaw on the show and a few new features and I promise classic match... Out.

/ “Luck be a lady” by Frank Sinatra plays as James grooves and the scene fades to black./

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