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•Issue Ten•

06•04•2000

•Chathouse `Zine•

Editors Note: I really can't think of anything to say this week except that I'm tired. I'm tired of comlaints, I'm tired of the fact I HAVE to work two jobs, I'm tired of not having enough time to make my way through the entire Chathouse and all it's rooms so that you all can feel more included. I'm tired of having to explain myself, I'm tired of apologizing [and won't be doing so anymore], I'm tired of not being able to make everyone happy all the time [this is an impossible feat]. Do you know what I'm mostly tired of? The fact that some chatters feel this zine isn't fair or open enough yet I see nobody else sitting in front of their comps for an entire day working on it or NOT chatting because they're too busy trying to gather information about the rest of the Chathouse BECAUSE all these people who don't feel included never sent me anything to include!! I am only one person, one incredibly busy person, and I can NOT make it to every room inside the House to gather information that is why TWO WEEKS before I ever posted the first issue I put notes in the forums asking for any input I could get. For those of you who take the initiative to get info to me or help me out in other ways thank you. To those of you who have offered, thank you and know that I am saving those emails and may just be calling on you soon *L*. And those of you who do nothing but whine or complain... SEND ME SOMETHING. I don't know what else I can do or say because obviously nothing has made a difference this far.
I do hope you all enjoy BOTH pages of this weeks Zine. That's right, it's so large that it's two pages this week, however due to the length of some the featured homepages will again be omitted this week but will be in full swing next week. ENJOY! ~Michigan Storm™
The Chathouse®
Michigan Storm™

Unless I am misunderstanding some of the questions asked in the g-book and in email I'm gathering that some of our readers do not usually chat inside the House. I've read more than a few questions about "how does this work" or "I can't get this to work". Perhaps they're mistaking this zine for the actual chatsite? IF you're reading this right now and came upon the zine in search of a chatsite we can help, but THIS is NOT a chatsite. *S* Are you ready to chat with some of the best chatters on the net? Click HERE or go to www.chathouse.com. This will bring you to the front door of the house where you can simply click on a public floor so that you need not register OR you can look through the options, the news page. However my suggestion is to look down the little list on the left side of the screen and click on New Visitors [CLICK HERE] to go to the same page. *S* Perhaps the Help page [click here] may be of some help *S*. Hope this helps *S*.
`Zine Poll
LadyGreenEyes™

Internet Relationships: Do they work?


Have you ever been involved in a relationship online? How did it work out? Would you ever get involved again? Would you encourage others or discourage others from getting involved with someone they've met online? What happy tales or horror stories do you have to share?

Now's your chance to be heard and contribute to an upcoming Zine article on online romances. Send your responses to Internet Relationships by no later than June 18, 2000. Responses may be edited in the interest of saving space. Please let us know whether or not we can use your handle if we decide to quote from your response.

ladygreeneyes_zine@hotmail.com
Cloud 10 News
~blue eyes~

Well, here is Heavenly_Blue_Eyes again. I have kept up with the Enzine. Looks as though not alot of Cloud 10ners like to read news! Absolutely no mention of Cloud 10 in the past 3 months. Oh well. There is news. A friend of mine that I will leave nameless is finally in LUV!!! In 8 days he will "be holding her in his arms again." This is from a person that no one in the chat thought would find love. So congrats to you! Some of the "older" people from the chat are coming back slowly but surely. So welcome back! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? *L*. Had sorta of a reunion between Grave and Sexyfemale this past two weeks. Sexy apparently lost her internet.. so welcome back! Another person, Shimmer, came back also. Her computer broke down. :( So welcome back to you! Handsome! Devil and I are proud to say that we have successfully purchased our first Home! It is a beautiful Double-Wide Trailer with spacious rooms. Indian Girl, my best friend off cyber land is doing well in school, and is going to be a paralegal in May of 2001!! So happy for her! Not many people know her due to the fact that she doesn't go to the chat much. Like I said earlier, though, since the update with Cloud 10 alot of people are not coming back. So we will miss you bunches. :( *hugs* More news later.

The Month of June
farmie™
• Dairy Month
• Caregivers Month
• National Dreamwork Month
• National Fresh Fruit and Vegtable Month
• National Iced Tea Month
• National Rose Month
• National Scleroderma Month
• National Frozen Yogurt Month

Flower: Rose                 Birthstone: Pearl
[source: June 2000 issue of Creative Forecasting]
Upcoming Stuff
We are asking for a few things FROM YOU for the upcomming issues *S*.
    •BEFORE NEXT WEEKwe need ANY & ALL flag gif's for ANY & ALL COUNTRIES. [they may not all show up, but we're HOPING to have at least one from each country to post perhaps?]
    •If anyone could tell me what MAWLID is I'd appreciate it *S*.
    •Because I can NOT make it into every room I'd appreciate any VALID information anyone could send me on their rooms.
    •PLEASE answer this weeks poll by emailing ladygreeneyes_zine@hotmail.com
This Week
farmie™ & Cataryna

June 3rd-9th - National Fishing Week
June 4th 1977 - the first personal computer [Apple II] goes on sale.
June 4th, 1937 - Sylvan Goldman invents the shopping cart.
June 4th Birthdays - King George III of England & Noah Wyle
June 5th - Queens Birthday celebrated in Canada, Australia, UK, & N.Z.
June 5th, 1968 - Sen. Robert F. Kennedy is shot by Sirhan Sirhan
June 5th - National Yo-Yo day.
June 5th Birthdays - William "Hopalong Cassidy" Boyd, Mark Wahlberg, scientist Floyd Taylor & musician Kenny G.
June 6th, 1968 - Senator Robert Kennedy Dies from gunshot wound.
June 6th, 1944 - The Allied forces invade Europe at Normandy (D-Day).
June 6th Birthdays - patriot Nathan Hale, writers Alexander Pushkin and Thomas Mann, astronaut David Scott, hockey's Edward Giacomin, tennis champion Bjorn Borg, football's Ruben Mayes, actresses Maria Montez and Sandra Bernhard, and actors Robert Englund and Harvey Fierstein
June 7th, 1654 - Louis XIV crowned King of France.
June 7th Birthdays - painter Paul Gauguin, singers Tom Jones and the singer who can't decide which name he's going to use his name this year Prince *L*, actress Jessica Tandy, actor Liam Neeson, talk show host Jenny Jones, boxer Rocky Graziano, and anesthetic pioneer Sir James Young Simpson
June 8th, 1886 - First Civil Rights Act is passed.
June 8th - National sense of smell day
June 8th Birthdays - composer Robert Schumann, former First Lady Barbara Bush, comedian Joan Rivers, architect Frank Lloyd Wright, actresses Kathy Baker and Julianna Margulies, singers Nancy Sinatra and Boz Scaggs, and Supreme Court Justice Byron White.
June 9th, 1883 - First commercial electic railway goes into operation.
June 9th Birthdays - Donald Duck [1934], patriot Patrick Henry, composer Cole Porter, conductor Fred Waring, comedian Jackie Mason, actors Michael J. Fox and Johnny Depp, actress Natalie Portman, singer Jackie Wilson, guitarist Les Paul, baseball player Dave Parker, and basketball player Wayman Tisdale.
June 10th, 1793 - First public zoo opens in Paris.
June 10th Birthdays - King Charles II and Prince Philip of England, writer Saul Bellow, writer/illustrator Maurice Sendak, actresses Elizabeth Hurley and Elisabeth Shue, singer Judy Garland, criminal defense attorney F. Lee Bailey, astronaut Jim McDivitt, and Olympic figure skating champion Tara Lipinski.
Congradulations!!
Upcoming Marriage

We at the Zine would like to send out conradulations and best wishes to ~Internet Angel~ & Keiichi!!! This is what ~Internet Angel~ had to say:

    • "Its planned for later this year, no exact date picked yet.I have been at chathouse for a little over 3 years now, the man I am marrying has been there for quite awhile as well~S~ So..~InternetAngel~ and Keiichi are tying the knot in realtime. We have been together in person now for 7 months. We met in chathouse about a year and a half ago. We only spoke briefly to each other before just a hi or hello before in passing, never anything serious~L~but about 8 months ago everything seemed to change. I met him in person and was completely in love with him, so I moved from Georgia to Washington state where he lived. After I moved here the Airforce sent him to Saudi Arabia for about 4 months, but hes back now and he proposed sometime after he came home. "

  • again...CONGRADULATIONS!!
    Websites for Women
    URLs submitted by Drea

    The following links are mainly for women and womens issues. You can find all sorts of information on these sites. Recipes, a recipe finder, information on children [& the raising of them], pets, relationships & SO MUCH MORE.

      http://www.iVillage.com
      http://www.Oxygen.com
      http://www.nafe.com
      http://www.Womenconnect.com
      http://www.WOWfactor.com
      http://www.simplerliving.com

    The Chathouse™ Forums: Drama Everywhere
    LadyGreenEyes™

    Several weeks ago, the Zine took a poll regarding the use of the Forum in each chat room. Disappointingly, we only received seven responses to our survey. Generally, the people who responded to the poll like the Forum overall, but are tired of the squabbles, imping, and argumentative nature of some of the post(er)s.

    • "I just wanted to say that the 'zine' gets better every week. You're doing an excellent job. It's nice to know what is going on in the Chathouse™ and know other chatters' opinions because, as you may have noticed, the Forums just seem to fill with abuse at times." --Anonymous

      "I feel that the Forum is a place to voice your opinion mostly, and to have fun with it. There is always a limit to things in life, which includes the Forum, but who is it to say what can and can't be posted? To me, I post things to my friends saying thank you, birthdays or opinions on what is happening in Joe's. Now I don't bring my personal affairs in like what I had for breakfast or anything, but I do post special messages to some. I, like most people, read everything posted. It is a public forum which means I can, right? I'm sorry if maybe some of them are not meant for my eyes, but if something is meant to be for one's eyes only, then that's what email is for." --nympho fairy™

      "Usually I like the Forum. It's a great way to send out little messages to everyone or to someone in particular for birthdays, anniversaries, or just posting random thoughts, poetry, or role playing. The Forum becomes a problem when it's filled with fights and arguments. I've been put in the Forum, not specifically by name, but the tone of the posts and what was written made it obvious who it was about. What angered me most is that no one bothered to email me privately or talk to me in PM before posting something for everyone else to read. People are screaming about Freedom of Speech in the Forum and I'm all for it because it's a guaranteed right in the Constitution, but aren't I guaranteed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by the same document? My pursuit of happiness got squashed when my private business got posted. So whose 'right' is more important? Does anyone bother to think about that?"
      --Anonymous

      "I like the Forum...I know it is used sometimes for fighting and things it should not be...but everyone has their say...if something should happen to me...my hubby could post it there...since he does not know everyone I chat with...he could let everyone know...if they cared...*s*...or if it was him that could not chat...*s*...people know what right and wrong are...some want to push the limit...but it is a good place to let off steam and say hey to friends you can't catch up with...like now I can't get online much because of a family emergency...but I can scan the Forum...I like it and just wanted to say it...because a few think we don't need it...well maybe we don't...but it sure is nice to post something everyone can see and know that if I can't be here to chat that people will know I am still here or that I care."
      --Shetiger

      "I'm sure nobody wants to hear my opinion, but I'm entitled, after all isn't that what everyone's point was about a month ago? Did they not have a cow in Joe's Diner saying that the forum was open & public, meaning that ANYONE COULD POST ANYTHING. *but those same people then jumped all over other people for doing so*. I think the forums are for KEEPING IN TOUCH. In my opinion they are not there for us [including myself] to tell our life stories, they're not there to attack each other, they're not there for most of what we use them for actually. These "forums" are message boards, simply for the use of the people to keep in touch with others, to LEAVE A MESSAGE. Get it? Nearly everyone of us is using it for more, and I guess as long as it don't cause problems then it is no big deal. However, some of it does... I think anything that is even in the slightest bit personal should be left for PM or email and if you don't have the addy of the person use one of Chathouse's little thingys OR Leave a MESSAGE in the "forum" asking them for their email addy eh??? Now the rooms we chat in are actually FORUMS, have you ever noticed when you exit a room what the button says? It says EXIT FORUM. Yes, a forum is a public MEETING PLACE, that is why I see the "forum" we are discussing as nothing more than a *say it with me boys and girls* MESSAGE BOARD. AND as if that isn't enough, I'm sick of people [including myself], I am a big enough person to admit I too am guilty, attacking others for what they say without TRYING to find out what they mean by it. [refraining from listing examples] Well, I've already went over my limit *L* and probably still won't make sence to some.. *holding up a box of crayolas*"--JudgeDriveway™

      "There's far too much, bit©hin', pi$$ing & moaning in the diner forum lately. Okay, sometimes it makes amusing reading but other times it's disappointing to read how fu©ken pathetic alot of ppl are being in there when normally they're such easy going, friendly people. I reckon that if anyone's gotta do some bit©hing or other $hitheaded stuff, they should take it straight to the person they have a greavence with and keep it outta the forum.
      Not too long ago I used to have the oppinion that the forum should be used for anything ... yeah, ANYTHING *L* ... be it someone talking about their emotional problems, having a family reunion or saying something bad against someone. But I have seriously changed my mind. The forum should be a place for lighthearted, friendly, amusing thangs ... yaknow ... messing around in a jokey way, or for poetry .. that kinda stuff *shrugs & smileZ*. But some silly lil fu©kerZ are intent on making the forum a $hitty place to read, which makes me sad. Can't you people just lighten up abit ???
      Also, I think alot of people (myself included at times) are going into the forum and not thinking before they post something. Think through what you're saying before you say it ... why make trouble ? Are your lives really that boring?? And what is up with these people who say they're gonna leave the chathouse and yet don't ? Now that is something I find VERY irritating. Are you people just attention seekers or what ???? Yers must be!!
      Isn't it time that the people that regard themselves as regs put down their devil-bit©hing-horns and just stop fueling the arguments by replying to the lil tits that wanna cause trouble and aruguments ? And I don't mean by posting a *CLICK* coz that seems to really offend some people. I must admit, someone CLICKING ME offends me whatever the persons intentions behind it.
      Basically I'm trying to say that the posts in the forum are way too serious at times and the people responsible for this should get a life and take it some place else. And lastly I just wanna say that I blame the American's & Canadians for all the $hit in the forum *LMAO* J/K =) ..."--Venom (f)

      "My thoughts on the forums are rather complicated. By one hand I love them, and by the other I hate them. Gosh it sounds like I'm talking about a man or something. *L* But no no, I am speaking in reference to the chathouse forums. When the forums were first introduced I of course thought I was so cool posting a million times in a row. They were fun in the begining. Then it became apparent, the forums would be a tool for destruction and utter annoyance. Take for instance a chatter no longer welcome, it gave them the opportunity to bug the hell out of everyone, by posting rude things. Then take your "I need attention posters". God forbid something happened in the room and people missed it. This gave that attention needer the opportunity to utilize the forum. Posting about every little thing in the forum. Bringing a useless fight or conversation to it. "Hey just incase anyone missed it, Chatter #053 called me fat." Or take those people that adapt fake handles, no not imps. (I'll get to those later) Some people who didn't have the balls to say things as their regular handles. Miss I am nice to everyone, until I am different handle in the forum. That would piss me off the most. I am a very blunt person, but since I speak my mind, I get pinned with unfair things sometimes. So of course those fake handle posters, were always assumed to be me. (In my forum that is) Now on to the imps..ahhhhh here we go. *L* I myself have mastered the art of imping someone in the forums. Although I don't do it anymore, at one time I did. It can be another annoying factor of the forums. People get into fights that shouldn't be, and of course drama pursues. Which has been my point so far. There's alot of drama associated with the forums. But I also think there's alot of good as well. Take for instance my webpage. (Shameless plug in progress) I made a whole site out of a forum fight. Incase anyone hasn't seen it go here. Or take your chatters that don't come around to often. It gives them a chance to say hello to everyone in one easy post. (All shameless page plugs finished, btw) So to wrap all this nonsense up. The forums are annoying, partially entertaining, and gives us all a chance to have an audeince when need be. Oh and lets not forget it lets us all be advertising whores with our useless webpages! *L*"--KoRnQueen

  • Travel around the Chathouse™ and take a look in some of the Forums in different rooms, and you'll find most are the same. You'll find a fair amount of happy birthday posts, get-well wishes, personal life updates and so on, but there has also been an overwhelming uprise of posts relating to problems taking place within a chat room. Some name people by name while others simply allude to the problems without specifically pointing fingers at anyone. Some rooms are worse than others, but none of the rooms are immune to it.
    One of the staffers at Chathouse™ replied inadvertently to our poll because one of the responses accidentally wound up in the Chathouse™ email and apparently looked like a complaint, but the answer to the initial comment was a positive one. Chathouse™ will remove any posts from the Forum which are found to be offensive. They need only be notified of offending posts because they do not review the Forums to search for something which may be considered offensive to a particular person. If something offends you in the Forum, email Chathouse™ and let them know. They will review the post and remove it, if necessary. But please keep in mind, the staff of Chathouse™ is busy and cannot entertain continuously repeated requests for post removals. In other words, don't abuse the privilege.
    You can help cut down on the negative opinions regarding the Forum, AND the problems within your chat room by monitoring your OWN behavior as well. Are you one of the people complaining the loudest but contributing to the problem by keeping a fight going with post after post? Do you post things in the Forum that blame other people, by name or not, for arguments or disputes among chatters? How would you feel if someone did that to you? Do you post when your temper has flared and you aren't looking at the situation in a calm or rational manner?
    Think about it the next time you get ready to click the "Submit" button...are you going to be part of the problem, or part of the solution?
    Facing Reality?
    JudgeDriveway™

    This article is at the moment still an ongoing investigation [*shaking head* that sounds so strange] and all of my sources shall remain anonymous. I have recieved so many reports via email & icq on the subject of a once [thought] deceased chatter, ~~~ro$ie~~~. When we first posted the special edition of the zine in her & Shari's honor we did so to try to help those who cared about both of these women and to later be told that ro$ie had faked it all was beyond belief. We didn't believe any of this at first but as we further investigate it seems that perhaps a certain chatter from PA has arisen from the grave for what most say is not the first time. Rumor has it that she was already dead when she died in this car accident, apparently she had faked her death before. But still, it's hard to imagine anyone doing such a thing and letting everyone feel so bad for her "daughter" and sitting back and enjoying it? How healthy is that?
    If someone wants a fresh start on the net my advice to them would not be to die, but simply switch floors in the house or switch chat servers completely! Change your handle or just take some time away, but to "die" and then be resurected would do nothing but make alot of people who felt somewhat taken advantage of [or lied to] very angry. This is a disgusting and hurtful thing to do to anyone, even if you don't consider most of the people in the house your friend I'm sure there is someone in the house that considers YOU their friend. If this was some kind of joke it was a sick one. Hurtful, disrespectful and demented!!
    'Who am she to talk?' some of you might be thinking. Well I'm not someone who takes lies lightly. I'm not someone who would EVER consider faking my death. I'm not someone who would try to use my own death and/or my CHILD to get what I wanted. I'm not one to look for sympathy, especially from false truths. I am, however, someone who feels that the truth should be shared with all for you never know who it might effect. I am someone who feels that truth is one of the few things that form the glue that bonds people together. AND I am a cheesy reporter for a cheesy online `zine that I take as serious as I would if I were writing for a *real* paper because writing [fiction or non] is my passion. The most I can say to those of you who may not like this article being posted or who aren't liking the truth I am about to lay before you is CLICK HERE to leave. Oh hey if that door doesn't suit you try DOOR #3. Please forgive my "harshness", but now that we've established who can handle a little controversy and mystery thrown their way shall we continue?
    Some had their doubts from the beginning and yet others still believe she would do no such thing, then there are htose of us [such as myself] who did not know her except perhaps a brief hello in passing. What is one to believe? Who really know's her better, those she did NOT get along with or those who were her friends and might look PAST her deciet, if in fact that is what it is? There are so many unanswered questions and we're hoping that we can answer at least a few of them within the next few weeks. I'm going to begin by posting some of the PUBLIC POSTS that were saved by an "associate" of the zine who happened to be inside the Final Frontier upon Thursday May 23rd, 2000 at aproximatly 11:30 am. [I may not make it EVERYWHERE but I know alot of people who do]. I didn't even bother fixing the typos *S*. And for those of you who ended up being mentioned, my apologies, we used the posts just as they were saved. *S*

    • #2: sunshine roses(#803.782.700.576)
      leon here is a hand to you buddy you see its because of people like silly i went into hiding and pretending i was someone else i wasnt ,,^5 buddy she is trouble and you know it ===ant way the bitch is back *LOL*its me ~~~ro$ie~~~

  • It's so easy to lie online, but just like IRL it's just as easy to be cought. IF you're lucky enough to make real friends online do you really want to risk losing them by betraying them, especially with a betrayal so deep and painful? Many of us [myself included] did not come online in hopes of finding true friendships or even complete honesty and trust, but if you have found it don't misuse it. It costs you more than you may EVER realize.
    • #2: sunshine roses(#803.782.700.576)
      breeze im sorry i did die here in the chathouse only because of certain people who cant find a real life and need a fantasty to live

  • I ask you, if this is truly ro$ie WHO is actually living the fantasy? Who is not happy with their life? Who is misusing trust and showing NO integrity??
    • #4: ~~~ro$ie~~(#803.782.700.662) has entered the room.

      #4: ~~~ro$ie~~(#803.782.700.662)
      its ok soulman its time the truth comes out

  • Yes, I agree, it is time the truth comes out.
    ~*Mail Bag*~
    Michigan Storm™

    WOW, seems people seemed to like this feature *L*. So on with it eh?
      "I was reading your zine.. and seen where someone else had went to the diner to... and felt unwelcome.. I went there this past week and did not get one hello... I was very dispointed.. also.. I stay in the room a while.. just to see if maybe .. they did not see me.. or page freezes.. but .. it was not that *S* sorry to say.. just to let you know.." --Shelly

      "I just read the Memorial Day edition. I want to comment on the mail bag. What the one chatter said about going into Joe's Diner and not getting a hello, is true. I've been down to The Last Call many times before and have always been greeted upon arrival. Actually, in nearly all of the registered rooms one is greeted. I've learned that in the non-registered rooms, you take your chances. I'm not saying no one ever greets you, but in my experience it is rare. There are regs in some that make a point to greet. Well, that's my voice... Great 'zine. Informative. Keep it up!"--DRAGONLASS

    Thank you so much for the compliments *VBAS*. Instead of me ermmm replying to the other issue, I'll just post another email I got from a reader *L*
      "I'm emailing because of this: "I WAS IN JOES AND AM NOT IMPRESSED, JOES WASN'T THAT FRIENDLY." I may not be a regular chatter in Joe's Diner; I am however a regular chatter on the Next Level moving from room to room. I finally registered a handle and visited some of the registered rooms that are supposed to be so friendly and after spending several minutes in the last call and getting only one hello with only ten people in the room, should I slam that room also? Should I assume they weren't in PM, weren't busy with personal talk and that when I walk in the door everyone should have dropped all they were doing to say hello and be friendly to me? Well I won't assume that, I won't make an ass out of of my self-doing such! Not all people at all times are the friendliest, in ANY room, not ALL people at ALL times see every single person walk in the door, not every person at ALL times aren't wrapped up in several other conversations some of which can get personal. SO to the people who say they weren't treated all that great in Joe's or any other public room, well I'm sorry, I honestly am, it's a good room with good people, as I'm sure you'd all say about your room. To those of you stopping by to *check in* to be able to say ya walked in and weren't greeted with open arms ... don't bother. Just send your email in, saying it's an unfriendly room and leave that slot open for someone who actually WANTS to be there and meet people." --Anonymous

      [this came via our HandyDandyFormProcessor] "Since I have been around the ChatHouse for way over five years, I enjoy touching base with everyone when I am able. Happy Chats" --Yesme

    OoOo so happy to hear things like this *VBAS*
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